idc what anyone says bts deserve every single bit of success they have today n more bc what theyve had to go thru over the years was just inhumane on so many different levels :(
25:25 dude BTS wanted to perfom, Namjoon at that time wasnt felling ok but the rest of the members WANTED TO PERFOM, but they & army were told another different story, at the end they finally perfomed for the people who waited for them after all. 51:52 not just any idol, you have to be in a certain position to get that. agencies are mad and feel like its unfair because they know their idols cant achieve or even do not even hald of what BTS did and still do, talking about awards and impact, no just in korea but the rest of the world. also remember that theres already men, (athletes) that get extempted for service military. 56:56 of course its a bad clip, this guy was saying that people need an american/european band at the top and then his fucking excuse was that he cant understand)))))?????? what the fuck. people of color arent deserving to be at the top??? he just could have said "we need white people at the top" americans & europeans love latin music even tho they cant understand shit, but know because its korean theres a problem with forgein artists???
57:00 nah, the comment about “there needs to be a european or american boyband at the top” just reinforces that eurocentric view about everything revolving around english and having them be superior. i rarely see other countries complaining about english music so i never understand english speaking people complaining about nonenglish music. it’s just a super ignorant comment in my opinion, borderline xenophobic if you ask me. like you’re monolingual and ignorant? pick a struggle.
the whole "they need to be in a bubble of their own" was atrocious to me like what gives you the right to want to segregate artists of color from a global scale that includes the west? not only does it reinforce racist stereotypes about asian people administering "bot behavior" due to their massive population but it also shows how threatened they feel about bts' success. the audacity of HIM, a nobody, to say it though.
@@icebergi exactly! a white man trying to segregate artists of color at the mere sight of them being more successful? disgusting. his comments about not being able to understand them aren’t even an “opinion” either, it’s one of the most common and most ignorant comments i’ve heard when it comes to nonenglish music, especially bts. like i can bet that all these people saying shit like that were rocking to Despacito when it came out and was at the top of the charts. i don’t see y’all speaking spanish yet you’re dancing and singing along. what’s the problem with bts?
Exaclly! Like in my country you learn second language in school, offten it is english, and you can learn more on your own, but it isn't always english, and we listen to all kind of music, mostly in english bc america is biggest music market, and radio play whats popular, etc, BUT we never talk like 'we won't listen to this music bc it is in english and not my native language' ... Like wtf? But this people that speak english (like guy in this video) have problem with latino or asian music bc they don't understand... It is shooking that this people that say it never think that most of the word don't speak english as first language (actually 3 place).... Of course it has first place in a way what language people can speak but only bc people learned it, took time to do it, not bc they were born with knowlage. I'm always angry when I hear this bc I listen to all music english, korean, japanese, spanish, french, german, etc, and of course in my language. All word, all languages. I never ever thougt that it is a problem that I don't know words or unterstand song, I always looked up lyrics when I wanted to know and it was ok. Never thougt of complaining about it. And my friends, family and all people I know are the same, they may have preferences what language they like to listen to more but that is all and it is ok. When I become BTS ARMY it was first time that I saw that word is like that, not happy that something is not in english.....
58:26 I agree I disagree with it too. And they don’t see the problem of what they were saying because it’s Lokey W. Privilege yet they don’t Realize it that’s all.
@@lzthmg Cuz they and many others, are Not ready for that Asian Flavour that they give; thus, they are, unbeknownst to them, Stuck up in their ways and Eurocentric Mindsets.💁🏾♀️🙎🏾♀️🤦🏽♀️okay now, Woosaah💆♀️
The JK Flower Crew Hamburger incident makes me so angry and upset, even now….He was a baby, just 18, and protected by his hyungs. It was his first time on a show without them, and he was just doing something kind by buying the burgers…His face, when he got that reaction, he is confused, bewildered - and hurt. Those beautiful eyes of his break my heart. He is a better person than me (no surprise 😂🤷♂️) because I can’t forgive as easily as he did, and it happened to him not me! I still want to slap that mean and nasty man 🙈😂💜💜
yt boy in that irrelevant band wasnt being slandered by armys bc 'he cant get behind bts' lmao it was mostly bc of the racist undertones in which he explained y a yt or european boyband needs to b on top.. and then the whole 'i cant understand what theyre saying' just adds to it 😭benjamin not everyone speaks english so dont expect bts to directly cater to your standards?? 🤨
YESSSS exactlyyyyy!! Like why does a white boy band have to be on top anyways, where is the logic? That makes no sense to me. He was obviously just mad that 7 dudes from a whole different country can enter the American and European market and do their job better, EVEN with a majority of them not speaking or singing in English. Especially when you look at where this American boy group is now it just shows how much better BTS is than most of these other groups. Like I never even heard of this group until I watched this video LMAO
51:37 it wasn’t that people were mad that idols were only getting serviced pushed back and not exempted, they were mad because the only people who qualified were bts and not their groups. They said it was unrealistic and unfair but yet bts have met the guidelines
They disserve none of this... I remember I nearly cried when I found out that when Jimin was receiving death threats during their love myself tour, Jin dressed up just like Jimin just in case, for his safety. I only wish for them to be safe, healthy and happy...💜🥺
The kind of things they have been through as individuals and a group is the biggest reason why I stayed by their side for 4 years now. It’s just awful the amount of hate in this world, I’m happy to wake up every day and find more people that give me hope like BTS. I really appreciate you watching this video and the many uploads through out the week. Much love, they make my day 💜 Edit: hammer 🔨
i strongly believe that those microaggressions cannot be passed as "personal opinions" trust me they literally need not say those stuff but they do because they know it's vague and they can defend themselves later as "just harmless opinion" and that fans are just overreacting, this stuff has happened too many times to ignore these little intentional comments.
everytime i see bts i wonder whether people have to suffer and go through so many hardships to deserve greatness. i can't even imagine what that must've done to their perception of self and self-worth, to the point where you hear strong namjoon say his only coping mechanism from going insane is taking walks in nature and a 23 year old jungkook say he feels like he's not worth much despite being on top of the world. yeah, they've won. they've made it. but really, at what cost?
That's right, once i discussed this with armys in a line to a concert of the boys. As soon as i started to listen them doing the soundcheck from outside of the stadium i was like "wow it must be great for them do what they're passionate about, that is: to perform, to do music but at the same time the cost was SO big that i don't know if was worth it, and i can't even imagine me living in this line of work, and living with that lifestyle" that's why i appreciate, respect and love even more these precious souls that have come into my life. I'm SO thankful for everything they made for me, for us, the respect and love that i have for them is so big!
56:55 When you said, 'this is not bad clip', I strongly disagree with you as Liam, one of the member of Forever in Your Mind is clearly trying to justify his racism and hatred toward BTS by using stupid and illogical statement.. That is like Karen saying, 'I love black people but they cannot live in our beautiful community.. I know they are good people but we are just different.. I can't understand what are they saying.. So we don't welcome them here. Can you put them to the other part, the ugly and poor one?' If you watch full interview, Liam also said that he can't go to a concert and not understand a word he listening to.. In other words, he told BTS indirectly that BTS should make song in English since he cannot enjoy songs other than English songs.. Well, shame on Liam.. ARMYs love their Korean albums more than English one😊 Music is a universal language❤ So there is nothing wrong for people around the world enjoying Korean songs since BTS is from South Korea after all and so why should they change who they are? That is their trueself and that is part of their identity.. They should proud of their identity and that shouldn't be something BTS needs to change or be ashamed of..
Most people that especially watches Anime and Dubbed versions too, they have a Bit of tolerance for Foreign music as long as it supplies Subs for the videos. Likewise People who are Musically inclined and have a decent or more, Respect for Artists and Sound, Quality and deliverance, or “cadence” as some say. The ones with Studios and do Music and production them selves, and even Edits sometimes, are the Reactors I see that they fall for or Gain a Wonderful Respek for out guys, and I luv it!🥰
the agencies objection to the revision for military service was becauce the standards for the adjustment was too high and only bts was able to achieve it. bts is the youngest idols who was able to recieve the order for cultural merit from the president which is like a once in a lifetime occurence so the agencies were salty because they know that their company's artists would never be able to achieve that. the funniest thing was that big hit/hybe or bts themselves had taken no part in this and it was the agencies who used bts' name and achievements with the intention to get exemptions for their own idols ended up only helping bts more.
This makes me cry every time I see the hardships they went through and I appreciate and proud of all their success. BTS & ARMY TOGETHER FOREVER 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
"Sh.t IDK... Hammer" lol just kidding, Glad you watched this Nigel! I love when people watch this video because it really opens peoples eyes fr. 25:00 these famcams are actually super sad to watch, I get what youre saying and yeah if they didn't want to perform army would have understood and stood by that decision but BTS was willing and able to perform (minus RM) but their spot was filled and they were told they weren't to perform even though they were already there. So they ended up coming out after the broadcast was finished and everyone was packing up to leave which is just disrespectful af if you ask me. 52:00 So about the military service. In SK it is mandatory that every male enlist to serve 2 years before they are 28 years old. BTS has always said they are going to serve at some point. Basically what xceleste was talking about is that other companies (not bighit) used BTS as a way to petition for artists not to have to serve, and the gov said that artists who have received the order of cultural merit are exempt until they are 30 (BTS is one of the few who have received this so other companies were basically pissed that they used BTS to get a revision and the gov made one that only really holds for BTS since they have worked their butts off to receive that) 56:01 I get what youre saying but tbh this was a backward and ignorant "compliment" he was basically saying that a WHITE group should be "at the top" and since he doesn't understand what they are saying he doesn't get the hype.... racist af
When he was saying they need to be in their own thing. That couldn’t be seen as a compliment, he basically meant they stay away and let America or Europe handle the top
Hammer lmao. I honestly wish I was their fan from the start because it really hurts when they go through all these things. I cried several times during the video and I laughed thanks to you and your amazing commentary. They honestly deserve the world and they are good people to top it all off. Thanks for your reaction btw.
57:09 was definitely not a compliment. He literally said a European or American boy band should be at the top(like One Direction for example) and that BTS should stay separate in the KPOP category so they want dominate the entire music industry globally. They hate that BTS has such a global impact. And the one guy was being extremely closed minded by saying he couldn’t get behind liking them because they speak a different language which comes off as xenophobic to me. They just wish they had the hype BTS cuz nobody even knows who tf they are.
Agreed. It was racists. They were literally saying there should be a white band at the charts, then immediately change it by saying their fandom is creazy!then again the other one said I'm a fan then the other one said i cant get behind it .don't understand the language :))) it's weird for me how people use the sentence " I'm a fan" to cover up their messed up comments That to me only shows how powerful bts and armys are, that people can't overhear them so thay try to push them away in ANOTHER genre of music to pull themselves up. Dude just admit that you can't beat them so you have to say that they're Korean and they belong in thir own world!
It makes me so damn mad when I hear that whole "Why would u like them they don't even speak English" like????? WTF??? Imagine if the rest of the world had that same view about Michael Jackson, The Beatles, Queen like HELLO people?? English speaking artists that are popular in America have millions of fans from around the world who don't speak English! Why would that keep you from enjoying good sounding music made by people who are worth admiring and looking up to?
@@panizshams4410 oh I could write a damn novel about this topic lol I've had the EXACT same response from friends and family when I've shared BTS with them: "but you don't even know what they're saying". It's very frustrating to say the least 🤦♀️ I honestly think that the majority of Americans just aren't used to enjoying different forms of entertainment from other countries unless it's sports. It's a very close minded way to view things and I hope it changes.
To the woman that told jimin doesn't look good ... now jimin in LOUIS VUITTON SHOW opening receives, just go and watch ....all I want to say is if you can't appreciate someone beauty it's okay but don't disrespectful .... that will make you even ugly in your next life time.... you will regret that....
Its really hard for me to watch this tbh because it does make me mad, it bothers me so much... But I am so happy that they proved ALL those negative and ugly people WRONG. THEY WORKED SOOOOO HARD TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW!
You had me at "no matter how hard they try, you can't stop greatness." No truer words. As to the enlistment issue, the agencies were mad because their idols will not qualify for military exemptions because the bar set by BTS which became the qualification for the deferment of military service was set too high for them.
I agree that there's nothing wrong with not liking BTS. I don't see a problem with the guy saying "I don't like them, it's not my style" or something like that. However, what he said was "I don't understand what they say, so I dont like it", this proves how Western culture reject something or some people just because they're not English speaking. As you said, there are translations. So using this "argument" is just one way to cover up xenophobia and how closed the American (And the rest of the world too) can be to something foreign. Maybe I'm wrong or I'm being 'very sensitive', but that's how I saw that guy's comment. Thanks for reacting to this, I really like your content so I hope you keep following BTS. 💜
its with these kind of videos that you understand that they really worked SO hard (still are) and that they didnt have it easy to achieve all they have now and that they deserve sooo much and even more than than what they got
the thing with the enlistment is it was other kpop agencies that were saying that having a criteria of needing to have earned a cultural merit award in order to have enlistment postponed was too high of a standard. bts is the only idol group that has earned that award and other idol agencies are butthurt because their idols haven’t made nearly as much as an impact that bts has, and they deem the criteria as one that only caters to bts.
I just wanna say, BTS is so strong. They're so humble, like, I will hate y'all for all that shit, but they doesn't! They have too much respect for all the artists and ppl. I love them and I so proud for their success. Thank you for your reaction, it was so cool and honest.
59:13 your face lol i knew you were gonna go bananas on that chick for coming for Jimin 🗣🗣 I FEEL YOU!!! She don’t have no place to be talking . like look at her🤮
46:54 no because it be your own family that don’t even root for you or Believe in you. It’s always “be yourself, become who you want to” but when your doing that their telling you something different telling you, “thats not right go back to what you were doing.” ( you is me) I feel like i cant even tell people or my parents what i want to do because they won’t support it so atp idk what I’m going to do. I feel like i only have one person thats my #1 supporter and its my Dad i feel that he truly believes in me and what i want to do in life.
😂58:08 You thought the group was called Forever and a day. I did too honestly because I did not care enough to pay attention lol. 58:35 "If you got a problem with it I'll beat all 3 of y'all." 😭 59:18 I know for a FACT that this woman is a hater. Jimin looks so fucking gorgeous and was killing that blonde hair better than her and she could not stand it. Omg I was thinking the SAME thing when you were talking about her and her husband having a issue. No cap her husband would probably be simping for Jimin and it enrages her because she's prideful and has nothing on the majestic, glorious beauty that is Park Jimin. She's going off on a Jimin like a TV mean girl who feels threatened. And I don't see why they were mocking their language because personally one of the things that I find so freaking adorable about them is the way they talk and how without captions I would have no idea what tf they're saying. Something about it is so damn CUTE! 😍 I could go on about it all day. Sometimes I will just replay them talking over and over because they're so squishy and CUTE!
Hammer. Shit like this is why Army goes so hard when it comes to BTS. They have always been attacked with prejudice and as a BTS fan we receive prejudice for liking them.
Thanks again, Nigel! I appreciate you showing this message and commenting on the real struggles occurring across the globe. I love comment that Hell is hot. In the long run, goodness will win!
Thank you for taking the time to get to know all sides of who the boys are and not just react to their work mindlessly for clout like a LOT of channels tend to do on here…That’s why people including me are so drawn to your videos and appreciate the GRIIIIND your putting in. THANK YOU💜 Hammer😉
This made my heart shatter honestly.. And this is why I watch 'Karma is an Army' after videos like this.. And Nigel, I really appreciate the fact that you don't fake it (hammer BTW lol)
As our great president Mr. Kim Namjoon said, " haters gon hate and players gon play, motherfxxckers keep motherfxxcking all day". And to the Karen that was hating on Jimin because of his looks, she's just jealous and bitter because she isn't even half as beautiful as he is. OT7 forever. But for real though racism, discrimination, hate and all these other nasty things that were and is still being thrown at them is so unnecessary and disheartening to see. Some humans really are evil as Nigel says but i believe that in the end everyone will get what they deserve both the good and the bad. HAMMER
at 25:02 that had NOTHING to do with RM not performing. armys didnt mind him sitting out and if bts didnt want to perform then armys wouldve accepted it. bts never said they didnt want to perform the music festival took it upon themselves to remove them from the line up without telling bts, bighit or army that they did that. it was about the festival organizers purposely removing them and abusing their power not about armys want to see them perform. if bts came out and said "since rm is injured were not gonna perform this time" armys wouldve been fine with that cause we value bts health over everything. its the organizers who felt like they can do anything because bts isnt part of the big 3 labels yg, sm or jyp. groups from smaller companies get treated badly compared to the big 3 labels. due to the class system people automatically treat groups and artists from smaller/lesser known labels as failures before they even begin their careers. and groups and artists from the big 3 automatically have privilege's and are assumed to be successful from the start even having fans before releasing any music due to being promoted by older groups from their label.
*Nigel!!!* "Hammer" 😏 Glad you shared this on your channel.. Many people, including some Army, have no clue about the amount of hate and trash aimed at our guys. As an American Army, I'm so glad that I was exposed to BTS in their early debut days and had the pleasure of watching them grow over the years. They've remained special, yet humble,... Mega talented, yet still willing to learn. USA better prepare because Bangtan has arrived! Out from under the hate our boys continue to shine... They don't need to go down traditional pathways, our Bulletproof Boyscouts pave their own way! And Army has their back! Here's to making future memories with BTS! 💜
I love this channel. Out of all the people reacting to BTS you are by far my favorite. I like your vibes and you're funny and organic. It feels like we're all just chilling and vibing more than tuning in to a reaction channel. I love that you stop and express your feelings and don't do too much silly editing I just love this family. Keep doing what you do. 🤗💚
about the military part, even though it can seem unfair I can understand it. It's not the same for an idol and a regular citizen to go to the military. Idols are usually more groomed and a lot of the time feminine, and are harassed because of that. (communal showers etc.) Even though they don't actually fight in wars it's still dangerous for them.
The worst part about the grandma thing is V is particularly close with his family, and ESPECIALLY his grandma. She raised him from a toddler while his parents had to work and as someone particularly close with a set of grandparents who stepped up hard for me, the idea of their death is a thing in terrified of being forced to survive one day soon. The other set of grandparents do not cause anywhere near the same emotional response. It's just like....saying "my grandma died" doesn't have the same impact for everyone. V happened to be a person for whom it was completely shattering, he spent a long time recovering, and people's cruelty for sharing such a vulnerable moment was subhuman behavior, and that's being rude to animals.
Nigel you should realize that what u said in the beginning is backwards, because the whole reason why ARMY can be so protective when it comes to our boys is BECAUSE we know all this stuff that they've been through. I know some people can be overly passionate when it comes to protecting them and standing up for them, but at the same time, what would u do for anyone that you cared about? Trust me this ain't no regular fanbase, we would fight for them no matter what because they show that same love for us 💯 💜
Nigel!!! Always waiting for Your reaction every morning in Indonesia..You Made my day by BTS content. I appreciate your work too.. From BTS we learn How the hardwork is, and how we love each other trough these channel. Borahae Nigel💜 Hope your Life’s good💜
i don’t watch videos like this bc it pisses me off especially when they come for jimin because they’re all so sweet and caring and they don’t deserve this
The world is good. If you seek the good you’ll see good one. Mostly the actived person in webs are toxic. Because the good one dont wanna fight more. But lately i have seen good person in every ARMY. Any bad situation and some toxic fan come out, the good person in ARMY always comes out and speak out… made the positivity grow more… these are one good impact of BTS and good ARMY…. Just speak more about positivity, we will make a better community. Fighting ARMY…
Namjoon has more art in his little finger than anyone and he never wants his words twisted into misogynistic lyrics. Double checking with professors of women studies is just his way of making sure of this.
hammer 🔨 haha also thank you so much for taking the time to react to this. sometimes ppl misunderstood that ARMYs want ppl to know about the struggles bangtan went through so they could be pitied, so they'd be treated softer. no, we want ppl to know to show ppl how strong these boys are, and that it hasn't been easy but we're still here :))
I'm so appreciate people who really care and don't skip sense, so thank you so much and don't listen to haters or toxic people , keep doing , love you 😘 ❤
I love your personality and humor, and I’ve definitely subscribed. I also love how you’re willing to give out free, non discriminatory hands to anyone lolol. In the wise words of Jimin, “you nice, keep going!” Borahae!
For the Liam boy band comment: I always (and still do) see it as him saying there should be one American/European boy band above this foreign boyband and since there isn't then BTS needs their own category. I see it as he wants to separate them from the rest just because they are two big in a country where they don't even speak the "respective language" in and he personally doesn't like it. His "opinion" isn't that he can't understand them, his PROBLEM is that he can't understand them and you can tell that's what he meant just by the way he led himself up to that comment by mentioning that they need to be separated. I don't see it as praise and it could be understandable why it isn't seen as praise
It was just an ignorant, jealous, hateful comment, because he's a musician!! Had it come from any other professional I could definitely say hey, BTS is not for everybody. But the idiot is in a boy band and does the same shit for a living come on now! He knows better!
I have been an army for 6 years and I am too proud to see what they have achieved, they deserve everything🥺. They saved many lives through their songs, I really love them very much, they inspire me every day.💜💜
Michael Jackson, Prince, Boy George. Little Richard. Smokey Robinson, Elton John, Johnny Mathis, many, many other singers and performers wore make up. It's nothing wrong with makeup. Makeup enhances natural beauty. They were pretty kids when they first began. They became even more pretty when they morphed into growing young handsome men. TODAY, they have fully blossomed into DROP DEAD GORGEOUS MEN! They are world renowned IDOLS!!!!!!!!!!!! People literally worship BTS! They way that BTS was treated at the beginning only proves one thing: The KPOP Industry at that time were HATERS!! They are hard workers. They have been hard workers since the day they began. The are not quitters! When JK was treated disrespectful by the group of men he brought burgers for, they treated his so badly. JK remained composed and kept a smile on his charming face. I shed tears when I saw them turn his burgers down. How in the world could older guys treat a baby like that? JK was a big baby boy. I felt like slapping all of them for the way they treated a young boy. They should have been ashamed of themselves. BTS are a group of humble young men. I think they were MEANT to be together. Things do happen for a reason. There is NOTHING, and NEVER has been anything wrong with J-Hope's appearance. He's always been handsome. Everyone in the group have their own GOD given beauty. GOD doesn't make mistakes!!!!!! BTS is quick to apologize to fans, Company Managers, Groups or anyone in the Music Industry that demands of them a reason as to why they felt they (BTS) needed to apologize. RM and Suga are thinkers. Those two members of the group know when and how to speak up in defense for their group. Things started going up and up for BTS! I'm so glad. I'm very happy for them. They (BTS) made positive what haters tried to keep negative. Hate will/does/and will rob a person of ENERGY! Haters are full of jealousy and envy. The worse Racism seemed like it sprang from their own Nationality, their own countrymen. Jesus said that, and I quote: "Your enemies will be those of your own household". I know my comment is like a school essay, but I am so upset and angry at how they were treated. They were hated without a just cause. They were hated because they wanted to sing and perform and make people happy and themselves also. Where's the crime? BTS is a (MWOTW) Magnificent Wonder Of This World! I'm just saying! As a group, they (BTS) are the resurrected MICHAEL JACKSON!! They, like Michael was, are LARGER THAN LIFE!!!! Michael put a dent in the four corners of the Earth. BTS has caused Musical EARTHQUAKES!! Face it world, there will NEVER be another group like BTS! NEVER!!!! I'm just saying. Thanks for the video Nigel.
This is why BTS deserves all the success they have and will have in the future💯💜 Also, Nigel I love your videos and I watch all of them. I love your reactions and commentary, especially when you take time to talk about different parts of the videos. Keep doing you! (And yes, I did watch the 1 hour long video🤣💜)
Watched this whole video and I have been an army since 2018 but I wasn't that dedicated as a fan....but in 2019 I became a bts stan ....I mean their music is obviously another level...but how their journey motivates you as a person/human being like everytime I see these reaction videos to bts journey....I always feel so proud of them and feel so motivated and am always happy for them as they didn't give up and reached to the top......BTS always say they wouldn't have made it to here without armys....without there supporters but I just wanna say it's the other way around the way they and their music has helped armys overcome their hardships....to love themselves....to find happiness and to escape this harsh world when you feel like it's just too much for you.....it's BTS .....I have heard so many stories of armys overcoming their problems and coming back alive with the help of bts💜💜 Just wanna say respect to BTS and always want happiness for ppl💜💜💜borahae
I personally don’t see how the plagiarism accusations could be justified at all. Since the things “copied” were only things like concept photos and similarities were very vague, I’m pretty sure it’s just because BTS were not from the big 3 companies (SM, YG, JYP) and at that time the kpop industry was extremely exclusive to those 3 companies and hating on smaller company groups was normalised.
i agree that people nowadays are sensitive but i also think that shit like this has gotten out of hand with the deindividuation and anonymity that social media has provided. people be saying the most vile shit about celebrities and random people on the internet and we’ve gotten so desensitized to the point that we’re like “it’s just a joke” … like i know how to take a joke but some of this shit just 🥴 it’s not it
The fact that BTS has been through so much makes me want to break down. The way people treat Kpop idols and PEOPLE in general is so bad. This video made me feel so many emotions. People are so racist, rude, and they think they’re funny and that’s thing. I’m glad that BTS is growing more and more because it’s telling other creators (The haters) and shit that BTS is better then every single one of you. (also the haters.) I wish i could tell BTS that they’re good enough, you made TRUE army’s happy and that we’re here for them no matter what. BTS are humans just likes us and no one can change that. Nigel, Thank you for posting video’s that make me laugh when i ever need it. You and other kpop idols are the reason i’m happy and who i am. Ik people make fun of me for listening to Kpop because “They are weird looking” and shit but like, you and BTS show me i can be myself when ever i want to be. I wish people could watch this video like you said because it will teach them a lesson on what they did and said to these people. Thank you so much again and DO NOT listen to haters because you know you’re the best in the world. I love you Nigel and ty so so much. Also love to all Army’s and other people. You’re enough and remember that please. Edit: Yk what i also realized, companies don’t keep an eye on Kpop idols if their sick, hurt, all those things. It bothers me do much that most of them do this. It’s really sad tbh.
The military thing isn't about people not wanting idols or BTS to get an exemption from going into the military, in fact a large number of Korean citizens think BTS *should* get an exemption bc of all the prestige they have brought to the country. Athletes that win gold medals/major tournaments like the World Cup and award winning classical musicians can get exemptions, so why not popular artists who have also contributed to their country's reputation? What its really about is that other music companies basically want to coattail off of BTS success, using their name as a way to try to get their artists out of having to go the military. Only when the decision was made, the conditions to be considered for postponement were so strict that only BTS counts. The Medal that BTS got was basically like a Lifetime Achievement Award, it had never been given to anyone that young before, and it's *really* hard to get (which is kind of the point of making it the goalpost for postponement). So suddenly the people who wanted to use BTS's standards to make things easier for them are now mad that those standards are too high for them to reach. Also with the performance at the end of the show, they were ready and able to perform, but the event organizers had gotten Psy there to perform and thought that no one would want to see a group without one member, especially one like BTS, who still were being ignored in their own country by the major industries and so wouldn't be 'a big draw' like Psy, so they gave him their time. They've actually performed several times with one member out. Army would rather have BTS rest than perform injured or sick, it's heartbreaking to find out after a show how in pain or ill they were. In fact, BTS are the hardest to convince not to perform. They've had shows over the years where RM, Jimin, JK and V had to sit on chairs off to the side bc they were injured, in JK's case he had to sit out the entire European leg of one tour bc he cut his foot open. We found out later that he kept trying to convince them to let him dance and move around on stage, despite everyone's concerns that he would just reinjure himself and not let his wound heal.
Bts is one example of an underdog story, the “started from the bottom, now we’re here”. I have always have soft spot for underdogs. The more i dug deeper into their story, i knew that they were special and different. Armys during the earlier years of their career share stories on how they have to suck it up because fandoms of other groups bully them online, say stupid things, etc..the fandom was still small, and whenever they come across things online they could only cry and pray that they would be able to protect the boys. Now, the fandom is so big and it’s still growing day by day. The fandom is so big to fight back against online trolls, anti-bts etc.. and i’m glad we are able to shield them somehow, tho they still get hate.
Their music is appreciated globally on a scale never seen before. They deserve the world. And they'll get it. Despite all of this hate and discrimination, the segregation, the downplaying of their talent. 🔨
The worst part about the Jungkook incident was that he was the youngest there. It was his first solo variety show and they treated him horribly. The baby was only 19. They were supposed to embrace and take care of him but instead they bullied and ridiculed him. They stopped being on variety shows and focused on RUN BTS.
Its one thing to just not like a group but its another to go out of your way to actively hate and post evil and hurtful things ..how can you be a real fan nomatter who you like..thats wild
hey, i greatly appreciate your open mind, but i have a few things to add since there seem to be some misunderstandings. 1. while Namjoon revising his work to be more pc may seem like censoring, i honestly do not think this negatively affects the authenticy of his art. art is meant to reflect something or portray a message that the creator means to convey. by making sure there wasnt anything harmful in his work, he wasnt just protecting his fans. he was also making sure that there wasnt anything to distract from his message like what happened w War Of Hormone. not to mention, his art then began to reflect his personal growth as he sought to learn more about societal conflicts & how to respect protected groups. i think this is a beautiful thing & wish we could see more artists incorporate such responsibility into their creations. 2. 25:00 this was still the time when they struggled to get recognition from the industry & had to fight tooth & nail to perform at larger events. they were excited to perform & see ARMYs when Namjoon was injured. it was decided that Namjoon would have to sit out the performance but the other 6 members were still eager to perform. the problem was that the event directors viewed them as less desirable since they were down a member, & refused to let them perform. so its not that they didnt WANT to perform that night; they werent ALLOWED. 4. 56:18 this guy isnt saying that BTS deserve their own genre bc they are too big for the usual boygroup category. i can see how you can interpret it that way, but his very specific word choices are too strange for it to be so simple. what hes essentially proposing here is a segregation between European/American boygroups & BTS. so basically, he wants a separation between standard English-speaking white boygroups & poc boygroups who are "different" from him in race, culture, & language. his reasoning for this is bc he cant "understand" them, which is an excuse often used by English-speakers to demonstrate some sense of superiority over speakers of other languages. this is due to the assumption that English is a "global language" & that learning English should be a priority to everyone. speakers of these other languages are expected by English-speakers to simply understand us. but whenever English-speakers are expected to understand a foreign language, many English-speakers lash out. 5. 1:02:15 that "you LOOK racist look at her damn profile picture" was hilarious. thank you for that lmaooooo
24:46 EXACTLY! But some people really dont give a SHIT if the other person is also a *HUMAN WITH A GAWD DAMN HEART-* its very upsetting… If *people* dont care about breaking other *peoples* heart (in ANY way) then whats left?
#HAMMER. They deserve EVERYTHING. Literally every single thing they've ever earned because they did it with hard work, talent, and humbleness. They've gone through so so much and remain to be the amazing people that they are. People are bound to be haters. It's a sad reality. People only care about sucess and if someone is more successful than them, they try to bring them down. I'm always so proud of BTS and while they keep growing, everybody else can stay mad. ARMY and BTS know what it is and we always behind each other 100%. Great video Nigel, always enjoy watching your reactions.
idc what anyone says bts deserve every single bit of success they have today n more bc what theyve had to go thru over the years was just inhumane on so many different levels :(
Not to mention the music and dancing kills! They are just about perfect☺️✌🏼❤️
Anyone who says any different are just sour
I got so scared at the start where you were like “idc what anyone. Says but deserve every single bit” 😭😭
@@hobidear5028 💀
25:25 dude BTS wanted to perfom, Namjoon at that time wasnt felling ok but the rest of the members WANTED TO PERFOM, but they & army were told another different story, at the end they finally perfomed for the people who waited for them after all.
51:52 not just any idol, you have to be in a certain position to get that. agencies are mad and feel like its unfair because they know their idols cant achieve or even do not even hald of what BTS did and still do, talking about awards and impact, no just in korea but the rest of the world. also remember that theres already men, (athletes) that get extempted for service military.
56:56 of course its a bad clip, this guy was saying that people need an american/european band at the top and then his fucking excuse was that he cant understand)))))?????? what the fuck. people of color arent deserving to be at the top??? he just could have said "we need white people at the top" americans & europeans love latin music even tho they cant understand shit, but know because its korean theres a problem with forgein artists???
exactly
57:00 nah, the comment about “there needs to be a european or american boyband at the top” just reinforces that eurocentric view about everything revolving around english and having them be superior. i rarely see other countries complaining about english music so i never understand english speaking people complaining about nonenglish music. it’s just a super ignorant comment in my opinion, borderline xenophobic if you ask me. like you’re monolingual and ignorant? pick a struggle.
the whole "they need to be in a bubble of their own" was atrocious to me like what gives you the right to want to segregate artists of color from a global scale that includes the west? not only does it reinforce racist stereotypes about asian people administering "bot behavior" due to their massive population but it also shows how threatened they feel about bts' success. the audacity of HIM, a nobody, to say it though.
@@icebergi exactly! a white man trying to segregate artists of color at the mere sight of them being more successful? disgusting. his comments about not being able to understand them aren’t even an “opinion” either, it’s one of the most common and most ignorant comments i’ve heard when it comes to nonenglish music, especially bts. like i can bet that all these people saying shit like that were rocking to Despacito when it came out and was at the top of the charts. i don’t see y’all speaking spanish yet you’re dancing and singing along. what’s the problem with bts?
Exaclly! Like in my country you learn second language in school, offten it is english, and you can learn more on your own, but it isn't always english, and we listen to all kind of music, mostly in english bc america is biggest music market, and radio play whats popular, etc, BUT we never talk like 'we won't listen to this music bc it is in english and not my native language' ... Like wtf? But this people that speak english (like guy in this video) have problem with latino or asian music bc they don't understand... It is shooking that this people that say it never think that most of the word don't speak english as first language (actually 3 place).... Of course it has first place in a way what language people can speak but only bc people learned it, took time to do it, not bc they were born with knowlage.
I'm always angry when I hear this bc I listen to all music english, korean, japanese, spanish, french, german, etc, and of course in my language.
All word, all languages.
I never ever thougt that it is a problem that I don't know words or unterstand song, I always looked up lyrics when I wanted to know and it was ok. Never thougt of complaining about it. And my friends, family and all people I know are the same, they may have preferences what language they like to listen to more but that is all and it is ok.
When I become BTS ARMY it was first time that I saw that word is like that, not happy that something is not in english.....
58:26 I agree I disagree with it too. And they don’t see the problem of what they were saying because it’s Lokey W. Privilege yet they don’t Realize it that’s all.
@@lzthmg Cuz they and many others, are Not ready for that Asian Flavour that they give; thus, they are, unbeknownst to them, Stuck up in their ways and Eurocentric Mindsets.💁🏾♀️🙎🏾♀️🤦🏽♀️okay now, Woosaah💆♀️
The JK Flower Crew Hamburger incident makes me so angry and upset, even now….He was a baby, just 18, and protected by his hyungs. It was his first time on a show without them, and he was just doing something kind by buying the burgers…His face, when he got that reaction, he is confused, bewildered - and hurt. Those beautiful eyes of his break my heart. He is a better person than me (no surprise 😂🤷♂️) because I can’t forgive as easily as he did, and it happened to him not me! I still want to slap that mean and nasty man 🙈😂💜💜
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Fr tho!
Fr, it was such an unnecessary comment to make
@@jibootyboo lol okie dokie, Ouch, who bit You on the butt?
I cried watching that part and j hope part
yt boy in that irrelevant band wasnt being slandered by armys bc 'he cant get behind bts' lmao it was mostly bc of the racist undertones in which he explained y a yt or european boyband needs to b on top.. and then the whole 'i cant understand what theyre saying' just adds to it 😭benjamin not everyone speaks english so dont expect bts to directly cater to your standards?? 🤨
YESSSS exactlyyyyy!! Like why does a white boy band have to be on top anyways, where is the logic? That makes no sense to me. He was obviously just mad that 7 dudes from a whole different country can enter the American and European market and do their job better, EVEN with a majority of them not speaking or singing in English. Especially when you look at where this American boy group is now it just shows how much better BTS is than most of these other groups. Like I never even heard of this group until I watched this video LMAO
51:37 it wasn’t that people were mad that idols were only getting serviced pushed back and not exempted, they were mad because the only people who qualified were bts and not their groups. They said it was unrealistic and unfair but yet bts have met the guidelines
LOUDER Pleaseeeeeee
They disserve none of this... I remember I nearly cried when I found out that when Jimin was receiving death threats during their love myself tour, Jin dressed up just like Jimin just in case, for his safety. I only wish for them to be safe, healthy and happy...💜🥺
That’s the only thing that bothered you about this video lol
The kind of things they have been through as individuals and a group is the biggest reason why I stayed by their side for 4 years now. It’s just awful the amount of hate in this world, I’m happy to wake up every day and find more people that give me hope like BTS. I really appreciate you watching this video and the many uploads through out the week. Much love, they make my day 💜
Edit: hammer 🔨
Love u Nigel. Appreciate everything you do for us.
Thank you for appreciating my content 🥲🥲
i strongly believe that those microaggressions cannot be passed as "personal opinions" trust me they literally need not say those stuff but they do because they know it's vague and they can defend themselves later as "just harmless opinion" and that fans are just overreacting, this stuff has happened too many times to ignore these little intentional comments.
This comment!! People do this every single day to poc and it’s far from personal opinions if it’s intentionally hurting others 😢
everytime i see bts i wonder whether people have to suffer and go through so many hardships to deserve greatness. i can't even imagine what that must've done to their perception of self and self-worth, to the point where you hear strong namjoon say his only coping mechanism from going insane is taking walks in nature and a 23 year old jungkook say he feels like he's not worth much despite being on top of the world. yeah, they've won. they've made it. but really, at what cost?
this made me cry
And at such young ages too. Like their mental strength and the fact they were able to go through all of this is just astonishing
That was heartbreaking 💔
That's right, once i discussed this with armys in a line to a concert of the boys. As soon as i started to listen them doing the soundcheck from outside of the stadium i was like "wow it must be great for them do what they're passionate about, that is: to perform, to do music but at the same time the cost was SO big that i don't know if was worth it, and i can't even imagine me living in this line of work, and living with that lifestyle" that's why i appreciate, respect and love even more these precious souls that have come into my life. I'm SO thankful for everything they made for me, for us, the respect and love that i have for them is so big!
56:55 When you said, 'this is not bad clip', I strongly disagree with you as Liam, one of the member of Forever in Your Mind is clearly trying to justify his racism and hatred toward BTS by using stupid and illogical statement.. That is like Karen saying, 'I love black people but they cannot live in our beautiful community.. I know they are good people but we are just different.. I can't understand what are they saying.. So we don't welcome them here. Can you put them to the other part, the ugly and poor one?'
If you watch full interview, Liam also said that he can't go to a concert and not understand a word he listening to.. In other words, he told BTS indirectly that BTS should make song in English since he cannot enjoy songs other than English songs.. Well, shame on Liam.. ARMYs love their Korean albums more than English one😊
Music is a universal language❤ So there is nothing wrong for people around the world enjoying Korean songs since BTS is from South Korea after all and so why should they change who they are? That is their trueself and that is part of their identity.. They should proud of their identity and that shouldn't be something BTS needs to change or be ashamed of..
Most people that especially watches Anime and Dubbed versions too, they have a Bit of tolerance for Foreign music as long as it supplies Subs for the videos.
Likewise People who are Musically inclined and have a decent or more, Respect for Artists and Sound, Quality and deliverance, or “cadence” as some say. The ones with Studios and do Music and production them selves, and even Edits sometimes, are the Reactors I see that they fall for or Gain a Wonderful Respek for out guys, and I luv it!🥰
the agencies objection to the revision for military service was becauce the standards for the adjustment was too high and only bts was able to achieve it. bts is the youngest idols who was able to recieve the order for cultural merit from the president which is like a once in a lifetime occurence so the agencies were salty because they know that their company's artists would never be able to achieve that. the funniest thing was that big hit/hybe or bts themselves had taken no part in this and it was the agencies who used bts' name and achievements with the intention to get exemptions for their own idols ended up only helping bts more.
This makes me cry every time I see the hardships they went through and I appreciate and proud of all their success. BTS & ARMY TOGETHER FOREVER 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Boy, you are killing me with the best of Jimin, best moments😆THANK YOU✌🏼❤️🐥
BTS has been through so much to get we’re they are. They deserve all the love they receive now
"Sh.t IDK... Hammer" lol just kidding, Glad you watched this Nigel! I love when people watch this video because it really opens peoples eyes fr.
25:00 these famcams are actually super sad to watch, I get what youre saying and yeah if they didn't want to perform army would have understood and stood by that decision but BTS was willing and able to perform (minus RM) but their spot was filled and they were told they weren't to perform even though they were already there. So they ended up coming out after the broadcast was finished and everyone was packing up to leave which is just disrespectful af if you ask me.
52:00 So about the military service. In SK it is mandatory that every male enlist to serve 2 years before they are 28 years old. BTS has always said they are going to serve at some point. Basically what xceleste was talking about is that other companies (not bighit) used BTS as a way to petition for artists not to have to serve, and the gov said that artists who have received the order of cultural merit are exempt until they are 30 (BTS is one of the few who have received this so other companies were basically pissed that they used BTS to get a revision and the gov made one that only really holds for BTS since they have worked their butts off to receive that)
56:01 I get what youre saying but tbh this was a backward and ignorant "compliment" he was basically saying that a WHITE group should be "at the top" and since he doesn't understand what they are saying he doesn't get the hype.... racist af
When he was saying they need to be in their own thing. That couldn’t be seen as a compliment, he basically meant they stay away and let America or Europe handle the top
Hammer lmao. I honestly wish I was their fan from the start because it really hurts when they go through all these things. I cried several times during the video and I laughed thanks to you and your amazing commentary. They honestly deserve the world and they are good people to top it all off. Thanks for your reaction btw.
57:09 was definitely not a compliment. He literally said a European or American boy band should be at the top(like One Direction for example) and that BTS should stay separate in the KPOP category so they want dominate the entire music industry globally. They hate that BTS has such a global impact. And the one guy was being extremely closed minded by saying he couldn’t get behind liking them because they speak a different language which comes off as xenophobic to me. They just wish they had the hype BTS cuz nobody even knows who tf they are.
Agreed. It was racists. They were literally saying there should be a white band at the charts, then immediately change it by saying their fandom is creazy!then again the other one said I'm a fan then the other one said i cant get behind it .don't understand the language :))) it's weird for me how people use the sentence " I'm a fan" to cover up their messed up comments
That to me only shows how powerful bts and armys are, that people can't overhear them so thay try to push them away in ANOTHER genre of music to pull themselves up.
Dude just admit that you can't beat them so you have to say that they're Korean and they belong in thir own world!
It makes me so damn mad when I hear that whole "Why would u like them they don't even speak English" like????? WTF??? Imagine if the rest of the world had that same view about Michael Jackson, The Beatles, Queen like HELLO people?? English speaking artists that are popular in America have millions of fans from around the world who don't speak English! Why would that keep you from enjoying good sounding music made by people who are worth admiring and looking up to?
@@hobisdimples94
This should be written with gold on every billboard in America:)
@@panizshams4410 oh I could write a damn novel about this topic lol I've had the EXACT same response from friends and family when I've shared BTS with them: "but you don't even know what they're saying". It's very frustrating to say the least 🤦♀️ I honestly think that the majority of Americans just aren't used to enjoying different forms of entertainment from other countries unless it's sports. It's a very close minded way to view things and I hope it changes.
@@hobisdimples94
Couldn't agree more . My family's response is quite the same so you are not alone
To the woman that told jimin doesn't look good ... now jimin in LOUIS VUITTON SHOW opening receives, just go and watch ....all I want to say is if you can't appreciate someone beauty it's okay but don't disrespectful .... that will make you even ugly in your next life time.... you will regret that....
Its really hard for me to watch this tbh because it does make me mad, it bothers me so much... But I am so happy that they proved ALL those negative and ugly people WRONG. THEY WORKED SOOOOO HARD TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW!
You had me at "no matter how hard they try, you can't stop greatness." No truer words.
As to the enlistment issue, the agencies were mad because their idols will not qualify for military exemptions because the bar set by BTS which became the qualification for the deferment of military service was set too high for them.
I agree that there's nothing wrong with not liking BTS. I don't see a problem with the guy saying "I don't like them, it's not my style" or something like that. However, what he said was "I don't understand what they say, so I dont like it", this proves how Western culture reject something or some people just because they're not English speaking. As you said, there are translations. So using this "argument" is just one way to cover up xenophobia and how closed the American (And the rest of the world too) can be to something foreign.
Maybe I'm wrong or I'm being 'very sensitive', but that's how I saw that guy's comment.
Thanks for reacting to this, I really like your content so I hope you keep following BTS. 💜
its with these kind of videos that you understand that they really worked SO hard (still are) and that they didnt have it easy to achieve all they have now and that they deserve sooo much and even more than than what they got
I love how protective you are over our boys! Thanks for doing what your doing! HAMMER 🔨!
the thing with the enlistment is it was other kpop agencies that were saying that having a criteria of needing to have earned a cultural merit award in order to have enlistment postponed was too high of a standard. bts is the only idol group that has earned that award and other idol agencies are butthurt because their idols haven’t made nearly as much as an impact that bts has, and they deem the criteria as one that only caters to bts.
I just wanna say, BTS is so strong. They're so humble, like, I will hate y'all for all that shit, but they doesn't! They have too much respect for all the artists and ppl. I love them and I so proud for their success.
Thank you for your reaction, it was so cool and honest.
59:13 your face lol i knew you were gonna go bananas on that chick for coming for Jimin 🗣🗣 I FEEL YOU!!! She don’t have no place to be talking . like look at her🤮
46:54 no because it be your own family that don’t even root for you or Believe in you. It’s always “be yourself, become who you want to” but when your doing that their telling you something different telling you, “thats not right go back to what you were doing.” ( you is me) I feel like i cant even tell people or my parents what i want to do because they won’t support it so atp idk what I’m going to do. I feel like i only have one person thats my #1 supporter and its my Dad i feel that he truly believes in me and what i want to do in life.
😂58:08 You thought the group was called Forever and a day. I did too honestly because I did not care enough to pay attention lol.
58:35 "If you got a problem with it I'll beat all 3 of y'all." 😭
59:18 I know for a FACT that this woman is a hater. Jimin looks so fucking gorgeous and was killing that blonde hair better than her and she could not stand it. Omg I was thinking the SAME thing when you were talking about her and her husband having a issue. No cap her husband would probably be simping for Jimin and it enrages her because she's prideful and has nothing on the majestic, glorious beauty that is Park Jimin. She's going off on a Jimin like a TV mean girl who feels threatened.
And I don't see why they were mocking their language because personally one of the things that I find so freaking adorable about them is the way they talk and how without captions I would have no idea what tf they're saying. Something about it is so damn CUTE! 😍 I could go on about it all day. Sometimes I will just replay them talking over and over because they're so squishy and CUTE!
I still get so teary whenever watching their past hardships 😭 but so happy at the same time seeing them now on the top 🥰
Hammer. Shit like this is why Army goes so hard when it comes to BTS. They have always been attacked with prejudice and as a BTS fan we receive prejudice for liking them.
Thanks again, Nigel! I appreciate you showing this message and commenting on the real struggles occurring across the globe. I love comment that Hell is hot. In the long run, goodness will win!
Now you see why we’re so protective of these amazing men
Thank you for taking the time to get to know all sides of who the boys are and not just react to their work mindlessly for clout like a LOT of channels tend to do on here…That’s why people including me are so drawn to your videos and appreciate the GRIIIIND your putting in. THANK YOU💜 Hammer😉
This made my heart shatter honestly.. And this is why I watch 'Karma is an Army' after videos like this.. And Nigel, I really appreciate the fact that you don't fake it (hammer BTW lol)
As our great president Mr. Kim Namjoon said, " haters gon hate and players gon play, motherfxxckers keep motherfxxcking all day". And to the Karen that was hating on Jimin because of his looks, she's just jealous and bitter because she isn't even half as beautiful as he is. OT7 forever. But for real though racism, discrimination, hate and all these other nasty things that were and is still being thrown at them is so unnecessary and disheartening to see. Some humans really are evil as Nigel says but i believe that in the end everyone will get what they deserve both the good and the bad. HAMMER
at 25:02 that had NOTHING to do with RM not performing. armys didnt mind him sitting out and if bts didnt want to perform then armys wouldve accepted it. bts never said they didnt want to perform the music festival took it upon themselves to remove them from the line up without telling bts, bighit or army that they did that. it was about the festival organizers purposely removing them and abusing their power not about armys want to see them perform. if bts came out and said "since rm is injured were not gonna perform this time" armys wouldve been fine with that cause we value bts health over everything. its the organizers who felt like they can do anything because bts isnt part of the big 3 labels yg, sm or jyp. groups from smaller companies get treated badly compared to the big 3 labels. due to the class system people automatically treat groups and artists from smaller/lesser known labels as failures before they even begin their careers. and groups and artists from the big 3 automatically have privilege's and are assumed to be successful from the start even having fans before releasing any music due to being promoted by older groups from their label.
Hammer lol. Thank you for your reaction! Your closing statements were really helpful and motivating!
You’re my best lunch break buddy just keep talking 👍🏼👍🏼😂
1:01:50 That dude is only 5 years older than Jin and he calls them "Little boys"
*Nigel!!!* "Hammer" 😏
Glad you shared this on your channel.. Many people, including some Army, have no clue about the amount of hate and trash aimed at our guys. As an American Army, I'm so glad that I was exposed to BTS in their early debut days and had the pleasure of watching them grow over the years. They've remained special, yet humble,... Mega talented, yet still willing to learn. USA better prepare because Bangtan has arrived! Out from under the hate our boys continue to shine... They don't need to go down traditional pathways, our Bulletproof Boyscouts pave their own way! And Army has their back! Here's to making future memories with BTS! 💜
The humborger situation with Jungkook was so sad and Jungkook was so young.
thank u for this reaction, this is a really important video, thanks for your position and support. HAMMER 🔨
I love this channel. Out of all the people reacting to BTS you are by far my favorite. I like your vibes and you're funny and organic. It feels like we're all just chilling and vibing more than tuning in to a reaction channel. I love that you stop and express your feelings and don't do too much silly editing I just love this family. Keep doing what you do. 🤗💚
about the military part, even though it can seem unfair I can understand it. It's not the same for an idol and a regular citizen to go to the military. Idols are usually more groomed and a lot of the time feminine, and are harassed because of that. (communal showers etc.) Even though they don't actually fight in wars it's still dangerous for them.
That’s why I look up to bts. Despite the hate they still aim to go forward in life, together. Ugh I love them.
The worst part about the grandma thing is V is particularly close with his family, and ESPECIALLY his grandma. She raised him from a toddler while his parents had to work and as someone particularly close with a set of grandparents who stepped up hard for me, the idea of their death is a thing in terrified of being forced to survive one day soon. The other set of grandparents do not cause anywhere near the same emotional response. It's just like....saying "my grandma died" doesn't have the same impact for everyone. V happened to be a person for whom it was completely shattering, he spent a long time recovering, and people's cruelty for sharing such a vulnerable moment was subhuman behavior, and that's being rude to animals.
It breaks my heart to know all the hate they received. I love them so much & will continue to supply them #ARMY #BTSARMY
Nigel you should realize that what u said in the beginning is backwards, because the whole reason why ARMY can be so protective when it comes to our boys is BECAUSE we know all this stuff that they've been through. I know some people can be overly passionate when it comes to protecting them and standing up for them, but at the same time, what would u do for anyone that you cared about? Trust me this ain't no regular fanbase, we would fight for them no matter what because they show that same love for us 💯 💜
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Nigel!!! Always waiting for Your reaction every morning in Indonesia..You Made my day by BTS content. I appreciate your work too.. From BTS we learn How the hardwork is, and how we love each other trough these channel. Borahae Nigel💜 Hope your Life’s good💜
Nigel, these guys deserve everything.. They've worked so hard and been thru so much crap♥️🦋💜
I agree everyone should see this. I've seen it 4 times and I still get heated.
Hammer
i don’t watch videos like this bc it pisses me off especially when they come for jimin because they’re all so sweet and caring and they don’t deserve this
"You're Mad Cause You're Not" 😭 mood took me out
The world is good. If you seek the good you’ll see good one. Mostly the actived person in webs are toxic. Because the good one dont wanna fight more. But lately i have seen good person in every ARMY. Any bad situation and some toxic fan come out, the good person in ARMY always comes out and speak out… made the positivity grow more… these are one good impact of BTS and good ARMY…. Just speak more about positivity, we will make a better community. Fighting ARMY…
Namjoon has more art in his little finger than anyone and he never wants his words twisted into misogynistic lyrics. Double checking with professors of women studies is just his way of making sure of this.
🔨 stayed til the end. I love long videos of you reactions and pauses. You are perfect. You do you. Thank you, Nigel. You brighten up my day
Bts deserve all success and fame and even more. They're amazing!
hammer 🔨
haha also thank you so much for taking the time to react to this. sometimes ppl misunderstood that ARMYs want ppl to know about the struggles bangtan went through so they could be pitied, so they'd be treated softer. no, we want ppl to know to show ppl how strong these boys are, and that it hasn't been easy but we're still here :))
Thank you for your wisdom Nigel. Continue being a beacon of light!
I'm so appreciate people who really care and don't skip sense, so thank you so much and don't listen to haters or toxic people , keep doing , love you 😘 ❤
Hammer ♡ Nigel, you’re amazing, the advice you gave us was sincere and genuine. Thank you.
I love your personality and humor, and I’ve definitely subscribed. I also love how you’re willing to give out free, non discriminatory hands to anyone lolol. In the wise words of Jimin, “you nice, keep going!” Borahae!
Hammer...Ive loved watching your journey learning about BTS!
For the Liam boy band comment: I always (and still do) see it as him saying there should be one American/European boy band above this foreign boyband and since there isn't then BTS needs their own category. I see it as he wants to separate them from the rest just because they are two big in a country where they don't even speak the "respective language" in and he personally doesn't like it. His "opinion" isn't that he can't understand them, his PROBLEM is that he can't understand them and you can tell that's what he meant just by the way he led himself up to that comment by mentioning that they need to be separated. I don't see it as praise and it could be understandable why it isn't seen as praise
it's not a praise whatsoever, it's underlying racism
+ xenophobia
It was just an ignorant, jealous, hateful comment, because he's a musician!! Had it come from any other professional I could definitely say hey, BTS is not for everybody. But the idiot is in a boy band and does the same shit for a living come on now! He knows better!
the member Liam was going to say "race" before he stopped himself. that is why that clip is in the video.
"Hammer 🔨" ... Nigel, you know I always stay till the end of every one of your Videos.
59:13 she got mad cuz jimin is prettier than her lmao 🤣
I have been an army for 6 years and I am too proud to see what they have achieved, they deserve everything🥺. They saved many lives through their songs, I really love them very much, they inspire me every day.💜💜
Hammer! But I genuinely sobbed even though I’ve seen this video like 20 times
Michael Jackson, Prince, Boy George. Little Richard. Smokey Robinson, Elton John, Johnny Mathis, many, many other singers and performers wore make up. It's nothing wrong with makeup. Makeup enhances natural beauty. They were pretty kids when they first began. They became even more pretty when they morphed into growing young handsome men. TODAY, they have fully blossomed into DROP DEAD GORGEOUS MEN! They are world renowned IDOLS!!!!!!!!!!!! People literally worship BTS! They way that BTS was treated at the beginning only proves one thing: The KPOP Industry at that time were HATERS!! They are hard workers. They have been hard workers since the day they began. The are not quitters! When JK was treated disrespectful by the group of men he brought burgers for, they treated his so badly. JK remained composed and kept a smile on his charming face. I shed tears when I saw them turn his burgers down. How in the world could older guys treat a baby like that? JK was a big baby boy. I felt like slapping all of them for the way they treated a young boy. They should have been ashamed of themselves. BTS are a group of humble young men. I think they were MEANT to be together. Things do happen for a reason. There is NOTHING, and NEVER has been anything wrong with J-Hope's appearance. He's always been handsome. Everyone in the group have their own GOD given beauty. GOD doesn't make mistakes!!!!!! BTS is quick to apologize to fans, Company Managers, Groups or anyone in the Music Industry that demands of them a reason as to why they felt they (BTS) needed to apologize. RM and Suga are thinkers. Those two members of the group know when and how to speak up in defense for their group. Things started going up and up for BTS! I'm so glad. I'm very happy for them. They (BTS) made positive what haters tried to keep negative. Hate will/does/and will rob a person of ENERGY! Haters are full of jealousy and envy. The worse Racism seemed like it sprang from their own Nationality, their own countrymen. Jesus said that, and I quote: "Your enemies will be those of your own household". I know my comment is like a school essay, but I am so upset and angry at how they were treated. They were hated without a just cause. They were hated because they wanted to sing and perform and make people happy and themselves also. Where's the crime? BTS is a (MWOTW) Magnificent Wonder Of This World! I'm just saying! As a group, they (BTS) are the resurrected MICHAEL JACKSON!! They, like Michael was, are LARGER THAN LIFE!!!! Michael put a dent in the four corners of the Earth. BTS has caused Musical EARTHQUAKES!! Face it world, there will NEVER be another group like BTS! NEVER!!!! I'm just saying. Thanks for the video Nigel.
This is why BTS deserves all the success they have and will have in the future💯💜 Also, Nigel I love your videos and I watch all of them. I love your reactions and commentary, especially when you take time to talk about different parts of the videos. Keep doing you! (And yes, I did watch the 1 hour long video🤣💜)
I am so sick of haters!! Why hate they are not hurting anyone. Haters are just the devil trying to bring down good people!
Nigel is so protective over Jimin omg that made my day 😭 like that creature really had some nerve to talk about jm's hair and looks fr
Thank you so much!!! Love all your videos💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
im really glad i can watch this w u, cuz honestly my phone would've been broken for throwing it away in anger ;-;
Watched this whole video and I have been an army since 2018 but I wasn't that dedicated as a fan....but in 2019 I became a bts stan ....I mean their music is obviously another level...but how their journey motivates you as a person/human being like everytime I see these reaction videos to bts journey....I always feel so proud of them and feel so motivated and am always happy for them as they didn't give up and reached to the top......BTS always say they wouldn't have made it to here without armys....without there supporters but I just wanna say it's the other way around the way they and their music has helped armys overcome their hardships....to love themselves....to find happiness and to escape this harsh world when you feel like it's just too much for you.....it's BTS .....I have heard so many stories of armys overcoming their problems and coming back alive with the help of bts💜💜
Just wanna say respect to BTS and always want happiness for ppl💜💜💜borahae
I personally don’t see how the plagiarism accusations could be justified at all. Since the things “copied” were only things like concept photos and similarities were very vague, I’m pretty sure it’s just because BTS were not from the big 3 companies (SM, YG, JYP) and at that time the kpop industry was extremely exclusive to those 3 companies and hating on smaller company groups was normalised.
i agree that people nowadays are sensitive but i also think that shit like this has gotten out of hand with the deindividuation and anonymity that social media has provided. people be saying the most vile shit about celebrities and random people on the internet and we’ve gotten so desensitized to the point that we’re like “it’s just a joke” … like i know how to take a joke but some of this shit just 🥴 it’s not it
Mad weird how some people are so sad with their own lives that they feel the need to try to make another persons life worse
This video is so informative but watching it for the first time made me so mad.
Exactly!
the words they twitted about v's grandma is just UNFORGIVEABLE and UNACCEPTABLE. that is so messed up
I LOVE BTS & Nigel Baker you are amazing : )
And yet they stay humble against it all.
Hammer
The fact that BTS has been through so much makes me want to break down. The way people treat Kpop idols and PEOPLE in general is so bad. This video made me feel so many emotions. People are so racist, rude, and they think they’re funny and that’s thing. I’m glad that BTS is growing more and more because it’s telling other creators (The haters) and shit that BTS is better then every single one of you. (also the haters.) I wish i could tell BTS that they’re good enough, you made TRUE army’s happy and that we’re here for them no matter what. BTS are humans just likes us and no one can change that. Nigel, Thank you for posting video’s that make me laugh when i ever need it. You and other kpop idols are the reason i’m happy and who i am. Ik people make fun of me for listening to Kpop because “They are weird looking” and shit but like, you and BTS show me i can be myself when ever i want to be. I wish people could watch this video like you said because it will teach them a lesson on what they did and said to these people. Thank you so much again and DO NOT listen to haters because you know you’re the best in the world. I love you Nigel and ty so so much. Also love to all Army’s and other people. You’re enough and remember that please.
Edit: Yk what i also realized, companies don’t keep an eye on Kpop idols if their sick, hurt, all those things. It bothers me do much that most of them do this. It’s really sad tbh.
I really hope you see this Nigel.
One of first videos about BTS..especially the lady who was explaining about BTS .love your reaction.... BORAHAE 💜✌️✌️
the hardest video to WATCH AND NOW I NEED TO GO TAKE DEEP BREATH CAUSE I AM PISSED
The military thing isn't about people not wanting idols or BTS to get an exemption from going into the military, in fact a large number of Korean citizens think BTS *should* get an exemption bc of all the prestige they have brought to the country. Athletes that win gold medals/major tournaments like the World Cup and award winning classical musicians can get exemptions, so why not popular artists who have also contributed to their country's reputation? What its really about is that other music companies basically want to coattail off of BTS success, using their name as a way to try to get their artists out of having to go the military. Only when the decision was made, the conditions to be considered for postponement were so strict that only BTS counts. The Medal that BTS got was basically like a Lifetime Achievement Award, it had never been given to anyone that young before, and it's *really* hard to get (which is kind of the point of making it the goalpost for postponement). So suddenly the people who wanted to use BTS's standards to make things easier for them are now mad that those standards are too high for them to reach.
Also with the performance at the end of the show, they were ready and able to perform, but the event organizers had gotten Psy there to perform and thought that no one would want to see a group without one member, especially one like BTS, who still were being ignored in their own country by the major industries and so wouldn't be 'a big draw' like Psy, so they gave him their time. They've actually performed several times with one member out. Army would rather have BTS rest than perform injured or sick, it's heartbreaking to find out after a show how in pain or ill they were. In fact, BTS are the hardest to convince not to perform. They've had shows over the years where RM, Jimin, JK and V had to sit on chairs off to the side bc they were injured, in JK's case he had to sit out the entire European leg of one tour bc he cut his foot open. We found out later that he kept trying to convince them to let him dance and move around on stage, despite everyone's concerns that he would just reinjure himself and not let his wound heal.
Bts is one example of an underdog story, the “started from the bottom, now we’re here”. I have always have soft spot for underdogs. The more i dug deeper into their story, i knew that they were special and different. Armys during the earlier years of their career share stories on how they have to suck it up because fandoms of other groups bully them online, say stupid things, etc..the fandom was still small, and whenever they come across things online they could only cry and pray that they would be able to protect the boys. Now, the fandom is so big and it’s still growing day by day. The fandom is so big to fight back against online trolls, anti-bts etc.. and i’m glad we are able to shield them somehow, tho they still get hate.
Hey I just wanted to say I love your videos and I'm gonna miss watching them while im off at bootcamp
Their music is appreciated globally on a scale never seen before. They deserve the world. And they'll get it. Despite all of this hate and discrimination, the segregation, the downplaying of their talent.
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I think she was just mad Jimin looked prettier than her I mean I understand why she’s so mad😭
The worst part about the Jungkook incident was that he was the youngest there. It was his first solo variety show and they treated him horribly. The baby was only 19. They were supposed to embrace and take care of him but instead they bullied and ridiculed him. They stopped being on variety shows and focused on RUN BTS.
Its one thing to just not like a group but its another to go out of your way to actively hate and post evil and hurtful things ..how can you be a real fan nomatter who you like..thats wild
hey, i greatly appreciate your open mind, but i have a few things to add since there seem to be some misunderstandings.
1. while Namjoon revising his work to be more pc may seem like censoring, i honestly do not think this negatively affects the authenticy of his art. art is meant to reflect something or portray a message that the creator means to convey. by making sure there wasnt anything harmful in his work, he wasnt just protecting his fans. he was also making sure that there wasnt anything to distract from his message like what happened w War Of Hormone. not to mention, his art then began to reflect his personal growth as he sought to learn more about societal conflicts & how to respect protected groups. i think this is a beautiful thing & wish we could see more artists incorporate such responsibility into their creations.
2. 25:00 this was still the time when they struggled to get recognition from the industry & had to fight tooth & nail to perform at larger events. they were excited to perform & see ARMYs when Namjoon was injured. it was decided that Namjoon would have to sit out the performance but the other 6 members were still eager to perform. the problem was that the event directors viewed them as less desirable since they were down a member, & refused to let them perform. so its not that they didnt WANT to perform that night; they werent ALLOWED.
4. 56:18 this guy isnt saying that BTS deserve their own genre bc they are too big for the usual boygroup category. i can see how you can interpret it that way, but his very specific word choices are too strange for it to be so simple. what hes essentially proposing here is a segregation between European/American boygroups & BTS. so basically, he wants a separation between standard English-speaking white boygroups & poc boygroups who are "different" from him in race, culture, & language. his reasoning for this is bc he cant "understand" them, which is an excuse often used by English-speakers to demonstrate some sense of superiority over speakers of other languages. this is due to the assumption that English is a "global language" & that learning English should be a priority to everyone. speakers of these other languages are expected by English-speakers to simply understand us. but whenever English-speakers are expected to understand a foreign language, many English-speakers lash out.
5. 1:02:15 that "you LOOK racist look at her damn profile picture" was hilarious. thank you for that lmaooooo
lol and don’t forget the 1:02:33 Shit up don’t want to talk to you” part🤣😀ahhh yess, we love a Guud Sassy “Effitt” Nigel🥰💅🏿
24:46 EXACTLY! But some people really dont give a SHIT if the other person is also a *HUMAN WITH A GAWD DAMN HEART-* its very upsetting… If *people* dont care about breaking other *peoples* heart (in ANY way) then whats left?
LOL 55:23 your comment left me ROFL, and saying the same. If it exists, I would not wanna be in that guy's pale, oh so fry - able skin when he goes.
#HAMMER.
They deserve EVERYTHING. Literally every single thing they've ever earned because they did it with hard work, talent, and humbleness. They've gone through so so much and remain to be the amazing people that they are. People are bound to be haters. It's a sad reality. People only care about sucess and if someone is more successful than them, they try to bring them down. I'm always so proud of BTS and while they keep growing, everybody else can stay mad. ARMY and BTS know what it is and we always behind each other 100%. Great video Nigel, always enjoy watching your reactions.