Wiring VS Clip & Grow Method on the Same Juniper Bonsai

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  • Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
  • The two ways to shape your bonsai are the clip & grow method or wiring. Today, I'll demonstrate both methods on two identical Juniper nursery stock and we will discuss the difference between the two methods. One method is not better than the other. It's all up to your personal preference!
    0:00 Introduction
    2:15 Clip & Grow Method
    13:33 Clip & Grow Recap
    15:48 Clip & Grow Result
    15:54 Wiring Method
    27:54 Wiring Result
    28:00 Wiring Recap
    28:59 Comparison
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  • @susanbossert6833
    @susanbossert6833 7 місяців тому +12

    Quite an effective demonstration. I find as my hands become more arthritic, I tend to use the clip-and-grow method more. It's much easier to snip off a bit of growth than it is to wind wire around a branch. I'm happy with the end results either way. Thank you for sharing so much knowledge and time.

    • @judgetoogood1033
      @judgetoogood1033 7 місяців тому

      My hands are also Arthritic. I have asked Dr Chang many times too give us the brand name and where to buy them. I have even emailed him too no avail. I have looked all over the place for those scissors they appear to be oversized and spring loaded. Just what we need. I suspect he is holding out till he one day opens up his nursery in Pescadero.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  7 місяців тому +6

      Hi there! I tend to just buy generic tools that do the job rather than brand names. Tools tend to be more expensive if they have the word "bonsai" associated with it. For me, if it works, it works! If you'd like, I can do a video on my bonsai tools in the future.

  • @gregs190
    @gregs190 Місяць тому +2

    I can’t speak for your climate. But in my climate, zone 7, those shimpaku would be atleast 5-6 years old from a cutting and 3-4 from air layer . Great demonstration

  • @williamscott791
    @williamscott791 7 місяців тому +4

    I would say over 75% of my bonsai trees came from nursery stock early on that I put in the ground or in large oversized containers and let them grow for several years just getting larger and larger while I gently shape them as grow throughout the seasons pulling them up refining them and getting them into bonsai shape there have been some really nice bigger trees that I bought along the way but through the years I have built most of my trees from nursery stock this video had me reflecting looking back upon it I actually had a lot of fun with each tree in the journey it took building those trees versus just buying one that's very refined and established

  • @michaelchang6451
    @michaelchang6451 7 місяців тому +5

    Always get a little nervous when you start bending branches 😅

  • @mistaecco
    @mistaecco 2 місяці тому +1

    This video caused me to rush out in the rain to collect and re-pot a couple juniper cuttings I'd done yesterday, hahaha! Even if my first attempt goes poorly, pwrhaps one of these branches might grow into a proper bonsai one day!

  • @Tybold63
    @Tybold63 3 місяці тому +2

    Recently found you and appreciate the open mind about using different bonsai techniques. I think the fundamental issue what YOU as bonsai enthusiast like to see and not what others tell you is the "one and only way". Myself prefer to mimic natural growth like in nature while some prefer a more artistic approach where you use living organic material as your "clay" to mold it in the fashion you want. Cheers from Sweden

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  3 місяці тому

      Yes! Your bonsai is your blank canvas and you can shape it into any artistic vision you have. Best wishes!

  • @abrachupacabra
    @abrachupacabra 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm just using your video as an audio background to me taking care of my home plants ☺️🌱🌿🪴 It gives me peace ❤ Thank You 😊 from Moscow, Russia

  • @williemills2657
    @williemills2657 7 місяців тому +5

    Thank you for this experiment on similar plants. Cant wait for the update videos.

  • @GrowingBonsai
    @GrowingBonsai 7 місяців тому +3

    Congrats on the 100K subs. Insane how your channel is taking off. Prooves that quality shows!

  • @judgetoogood1033
    @judgetoogood1033 7 місяців тому +2

    50 years ago, I belonged to Kofu Kai Club in LA (not sure if the club is still going on).Every April 21, we would go to Mohave and scour the mountains looking for California Juniper’s. Those were the days. I learned a lot from Larry, Harry and John Naka. I still have my two of John’s books in mint condition.

    • @MiltonChang-ee6rq
      @MiltonChang-ee6rq 7 місяців тому

      Yeah! good Ol days! Harry is my first teacher.

  • @lisawagner6076
    @lisawagner6076 2 місяці тому

    I have really been loving your channel and learning so very many things. I just bought yesterday, a Blue Pacific Juniper for $11 and a little 1 gal Boxwood for $13 from Home Depot. Fabulous video and I will work on mine tomorrow. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.

  • @Ragman1983
    @Ragman1983 2 місяці тому

    Your video on transforming small stock nursery junipers into beautiful bonsai trees was truly inspiring! The care and detail you put into both the wiring and clip-and-grow methods really showcased the artistry involved in bonsai cultivation. It’s fascinating to see how each technique brings out a unique character in the trees. I’m curious, do you have an update on how these bonsai trees have progressed? It’s been about 5 months since your video, and I’m eager to see their development. Keep up the fantastic work!
    I’m considering beginning with a maple and a juniper, as they seem like wonderful choices for a novice like myself. Any tips for a beginner taking on these particular species? Your guidance would be greatly appreciated!

  • @jerezindraj6723
    @jerezindraj6723 7 місяців тому +5

    Hello Milton.
    Can you please do a Bonsai Video strictly on Bonsai Tools?
    Thank you.

  • @RodneyPike
    @RodneyPike 7 місяців тому +3

    Thanks as always Milton. Always good information.

  • @bonsaitherapy1468
    @bonsaitherapy1468 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video. Loved the way you showed the different approaches

  • @cashkillion5710
    @cashkillion5710 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the insight and experimentation, looking forward to the next update on these 2!

  • @sharicochems6299
    @sharicochems6299 7 місяців тому +1

    I’m really excited to see the results! Love this channel.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  7 місяців тому

      Thank you! I will do progress updates in a few months!

  • @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951
    @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 7 місяців тому +1

    Great tutorial and easy to understand your thought process. You have some nice cuttings to root.

  • @edmanescurc2823
    @edmanescurc2823 7 місяців тому +1

    Excellent demonstration! I'm looking forward to see the next updates of theses trees!

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  7 місяців тому +1

      I'm excited to show you in a few months! Please stay tuned!

  • @pattymyers4729
    @pattymyers4729 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you sir for your demonstration and knowledge. Yes, alot of us obtain nursery stock for our bonsai hobby due to cost and availability. I love clip and grow methods. Appreciate you doing this for us.🌷🌷

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  7 місяців тому

      Best of luck to you and your bonsai! Thanks for the support!

  • @MF-fc5vk
    @MF-fc5vk 7 місяців тому +2

    Kishu juniper in the uk a very rare find, very expensive. Great little bonsai though. I have one in growing in a large pot and styling over many years . Great vid. 😊

  • @mcbabs7495
    @mcbabs7495 7 місяців тому +1

    Un grand merci pour la vidéo!

  • @Fambamm-ib6pw
    @Fambamm-ib6pw 4 місяці тому +1

    It would be interesting to see the progress of what you do with the clippings❤

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  4 місяці тому

      You can always propagate!

    • @Fambamm-ib6pw
      @Fambamm-ib6pw 4 місяці тому

      @bonsaiheirloom some day will you do a video about this please.

  • @keefe4484
    @keefe4484 7 місяців тому +1

    another nice video

  • @Heavenly-places
    @Heavenly-places 7 місяців тому +1

    I dig up my woods good practice material as I learn Bonsai. not have to spend a lot of money. Good for me

  • @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951
    @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 7 місяців тому +2

    Excellent! Glad that you did a clip and grow. That is what I always do. Great comparison also. Price watch is what you have to do. Bonsai stores are expensive like you said. Getting these at this great price was a great find.

  • @Haybonsai
    @Haybonsai 4 місяці тому

    Tuyệt vời quá bác❤

  • @judgetoogood1033
    @judgetoogood1033 7 місяців тому +1

    Great teaching experience. What is the mystery of the California Juniper? Why are they wanted. Is the Japanese Shimpaku better because of its smaller leaves?

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  7 місяців тому

      Young CA juniper is like any juniper…no big deal. What gets people excited about CA and Sierra juniper and, for that matter, old Shimpaku is the incredible gnarl and curved trunks when they are several hundred years old and dug from the wild. Those are the ones you see in bonsai shows and in Japanese bonsai books.
      I can duplicate the look somewhat with my old cultivated junipers to work on…to not dig and disrupt nature for future generations to enjoy.
      I must confess I have bought several CA junipers at auctions to demonstrate someday. Stay tuned! I'm guilty of indirectly contributing to disturbing nature.

  • @guitguy6579
    @guitguy6579 5 місяців тому

    Hi, newby here. Love the content, but can you explain the specific terms you use, or tell me about a book that has these bonsai terms in it?

  • @feiyongan5544
    @feiyongan5544 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the helpful video. Can you please tell me which nursery sell those? Thank you very much

  • @virolfestrellado9425
    @virolfestrellado9425 2 місяці тому

    I felt bad he cut a lot of branches.. where am I at, a branch of this shimpaku worth $ 28. This shimpaku is good for cuttings propagation.

  • @antiduckable
    @antiduckable 4 місяці тому +1

    Could I go this hard on my Itoigawa Shimpaku too? Or is it the Californian climate that allows you to do this comboned with the specific variety you're using? Im in the north of England.

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  4 місяці тому +1

      I can imagine the weather is severe where you are. I think it is ok at any time of the year, maybe play it safe by cutting severely in the spring only. Try Juniprus Parsonii instead.

  • @robertwoods1380
    @robertwoods1380 5 місяців тому +1

    👍👍

  • @loriegoldstein4972
    @loriegoldstein4972 4 місяці тому +1

    Wonderful video.
    I have some questions regarding clay soil. If your time permits, I send an email regarding this.
    Thank you

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  4 місяці тому

      Please do! You can contact me at hello@bonsaiheirloom.com

  • @lsipahelut
    @lsipahelut 7 місяців тому +1

    What's the purpose of removing bark?

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  7 місяців тому +2

      I usually keep things natural…I only remove bark to tidy up things when they are about to fall off. It's an eyesore with half hanging flakes.

  • @judgetoogood1033
    @judgetoogood1033 7 місяців тому +1

    Dr Chang do you put lime sulfur on Jin and dead wood?

    • @MiltonChang-ee6rq
      @MiltonChang-ee6rq 7 місяців тому

      I do not, That does not protect soft wood, and hard wood like Juniper and pomegranite do not need protection., People use lime sufur to color the truck of Juniper a lot.

  • @brucedeacon28
    @brucedeacon28 7 місяців тому +3

    👍👌🙂

  • @c2rail
    @c2rail 7 місяців тому +1

    I have an Anacua (Ehretia anacua) that I started from a seedling back in 1988. I have had it growing in a pot from the start and have used the 'clip-and-grow' method on it. I live in a very warm climate. It has never once flowered in the 35 years that I have had this tree. Do you have any thoughts about why it has never flowered for me?

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  7 місяців тому +1

      I google and found it to be a wonderful tree. Covered with fragrant flowers and colorful fruits….And can be grown in sun and partial shade. Some trees, even bougainvillea blooms only with ample light and water. Try that, and let us know if you have any luck. Thank you in advance for sharing.

    • @c2rail
      @c2rail 7 місяців тому

      Thank you. I will try this and yes, it is a wonderful tree.
      @@bonsaiheirloom

  • @kai-minglee
    @kai-minglee 7 місяців тому +1

    The clip and grow may take longer to train the tree to become the shape you want.

  • @leahcimwerdna5209
    @leahcimwerdna5209 2 місяці тому

    I got into bonsai around 25,41 now. Ive honestly never liked wiring, the only wiring i ever did was guy wire. Even on junipers, thats only because the way i saw it was, all trees get their shape naturally so why artificially do it. Some get it from foraging animals, replicate that was my mentaly, some get it from stressers replicate that also, the one sierra juniper i had i gave away but it thrived in the lower central.valley CA brcause i tried to replicate it natural environment through microclimates.

  • @Sangeeta-qz2xh
    @Sangeeta-qz2xh 7 місяців тому +2

    55 like ❤❤❤❤

  • @mmjnice97
    @mmjnice97 7 місяців тому

    15 DOLLARS 😮where did your Assistant go mexico?

  • @parthdabas8881
    @parthdabas8881 7 місяців тому +2

    sir i am little bit confuse that which one is good wiring or clipping
    when i do wiring i got puzzled that which shape should i give .
    and the this clipping is new concept to me please can u help me

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire 7 місяців тому +4

      Answer: They are both good. Wiring gets you a result faster, but maybe running the risk of the tree looking contrived and unnatural. Clip and grow is slower but results in a more natural looking tree

    • @parthdabas8881
      @parthdabas8881 7 місяців тому +1

      thanks for your answer @@Stettafire

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  7 місяців тому

      A simple rule of thumb is to use clip and anchoring in the early formative stage, then use wiring to speed up the final stage.
      One of our club members, Jane, transformed a messy overgrown juniper overnight to a perfect show bonsai by wiring all night.

  • @misssassycompany9950
    @misssassycompany9950 6 місяців тому +1

    Can I bonsai a citrus tree? Let’s say a mandarin?

    • @bonsaiheirloom
      @bonsaiheirloom  6 місяців тому

      Yes…layer it to get rid of the graft mark. Consider Kumquat, since the fruits are smack.