Great informative video of all the different types of mutes but it would be good if it is more clear and zoomed in as your hands were blocking off what we're spose to see
Thank you for your helpful videos. I had never heard of Papp's treble mute until I visited your website and then found out that you had several instructional/demo videos. My only thought for the videos is that it would really be super if you guys could remake these videos with a higher DPI so that we could see the videos better. Thanks again!
Your tutorial was EXACTLY what I needed. My tuning kit came without directions of any kind. Other videos I've seen on here didn't detail this part of it sufficiently well. Today, you are my HERO! Thanks a million.
Thank you, in the vein of the comments below. I'm more confident about the mutes I would like to use since much time has past since tuning. The supply of good info will do a lot to help bring the strings closer up to pitch. Glad about the tweezer mute, which is the first I heard of this mute and the availability. Anyway, nicely done!
Your videos are clear and helpful and I am sure many people benefit from them. Many thanks. I wonder when it comes to tuning a piano vertically strung and with overdampers and "bird cage" action mechanisms what type of mute you would go for, and where you would seek to place them. Particularly in the top couple of octaves. There is just about enough room to mute the bottom half of the piano, at visible points at top of the strings, for the base and mid treble sections, but it is difficult to see what's where on the higher notes. I am not a great fan of muteless tuning but perhaps that has its place on these sort of instruments which (fortunately) are in the minority and reducing in numbers. They must be most tuners' nightmares!
Hi Raymond, I have been fortunate in that I haven't ever had an occasion where I had to tune a birdcage style piano. I know they are more common in places such as the United Kingdom. Because I haven't had experience with these, I'm not sure how I would approach tuning the high treble section. I have seen some technicians who made longer wire handles which may work as the handles may be long enough that you could put them between the damper wires.
I had posted a commentary saying "you speack too much".however I had commited a mistake of other tuner. I discovered my error now when I listened your tuition, that I did like very much. I beg your pardon for my error! And for my dreadful english! I can say that your tutorial is very good! I
I could be wrong, but it seems like the tweezer mute would be the most helpful for the "three strings per note" section. Am I accurate in the assumption? I recently discovered that I have the skill to tune pianos (relative pitch and what not), and all I have are two tuning hammers. This was very helpful, so thank you!
Steve would love to have seen how the paps mutes only the outside strings of the trichord allowing tuning of only the middle. Seems that the prongs on mine are too thin to fill the space between the adjacent notes
Excuse my dumb question, but I'm really having problems with my neighbours about the volume of my piano and I wonder if I could use the red tape you showed to damper it so it doesn't sound so loud. If not, is there any device I could buy to achieve that?
Great and informative video. Question - When I'm tuning a piano, and I'm on my last string to tune (a note with three strings), and I finally get the last string tuned to "one" sound, why does it sound so bad when playing a perfect fifth or fourth with another note? Also, I noticed that some of the notes I previously tuned get out of tune by the time I'm completely done tuning the entire piano. Why is this? Please help, thanks so much!
It could be that the pitch drifts some while tuning. This could be due to not getting the pin set correctly or it could be that if you're doing too large of a pitch adjustment, this will cause the pitch to drift while tuning. If your 4ths and 5ths sound bad when you're done, you'll want to check to see if the notes are still where you left them.
Great. I tuned another one yesterday and I fiddled a lot less with going back and forth with the pins. That seemed to help. Thanks again for your suggestions!
Hello, I just starting to tuning my piano for the first time. But When I get to about C6 and up it get kind of hard to put the rubber mutes in. The hammer would strike on the rubber mute, there is some sound, but it doesn't seem clear enough, so I can tune the middle string. I hope you understand what I meant that. Is it because my piano string is to short? :( I have a Kawaii Upright Piano. Please let me know. Much Thanks
Yes, there isn't much room above where the hammer strikes to put the mutes in that section of the piano. What I do is to use the narrow 1/4" wide mutes for the section that has dampers when it gets above the treble break. There should be enough room above where the hammer strikes to fit this size of mute. For the highest section of the piano that doesn't have dampers, I use a temperament strip and place it below where the hammers strike which is where the dampers would be if there were dampers in that section. Hopefully this helps.
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Thanks for this video!
Glad it was helpful!
Great informative video of all the different types of mutes but it would be good if it is more clear and zoomed in as your hands were blocking off what we're spose to see
for a little while, i questioned whether this was Bob Odenkirk...
great video
Thank you for your helpful videos. I had never heard of Papp's treble mute until I visited your website and then found out that you had several instructional/demo videos. My only thought for the videos is that it would really be super if you guys could remake these videos with a higher DPI so that we could see the videos better. Thanks again!
Thank you for teaching us how to mute during our piano tuning process. Your video is very informative and educational.
Thank you! It's wonderful to see how you are happy to share your knowledge with newbies like me. 😀
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Jim. I'm glad to hear that you found the video to be helpful.
Thanks for making this video. It's the best presentation of piano tuning mutes on the web
Your tutorial was EXACTLY what I needed. My tuning kit came without directions of any kind. Other videos I've seen on here didn't detail this part of it sufficiently well. Today,
you are my HERO! Thanks a million.
I'm glad to hear that the video was helpful for you.
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It took away my fear and gave me a launching pad. Recommeded to all visitors to this site.....
Thank you, in the vein of the comments below. I'm more confident about the mutes I would like to use since much time has past since tuning. The supply of good info will do a lot to help bring the strings closer up to pitch. Glad about the tweezer mute, which is the first I heard of this mute and the availability. Anyway, nicely done!
Thank you very much for explanation!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for your help.
Your videos are clear and helpful and I am sure many people benefit from them. Many thanks.
I wonder when it comes to tuning a piano vertically strung and with overdampers and "bird cage" action mechanisms what type of mute you would go for, and where you would seek to place them. Particularly in the top couple of octaves. There is just about enough room to mute the bottom half of the piano, at visible points at top of the strings, for the base and mid treble sections, but it is difficult to see what's where on the higher notes. I am not a great fan of muteless tuning but perhaps that has its place on these sort of instruments which (fortunately) are in the minority and reducing in numbers. They must be most tuners' nightmares!
Hi Raymond,
I have been fortunate in that I haven't ever had an occasion where I had to tune a birdcage style piano. I know they are more common in places such as the United Kingdom. Because I haven't had experience with these, I'm not sure how I would approach tuning the high treble section. I have seen some technicians who made longer wire handles which may work as the handles may be long enough that you could put them between the damper wires.
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I had posted a commentary saying "you speack too much".however
I had commited a mistake of other tuner. I discovered my error now when I listened your tuition, that I did like very much.
I beg your pardon for my error! And for my dreadful english! I can say that your tutorial is very good!
I
That's alright Jose. I'm glad that you've enjoyed our videos!
I could be wrong, but it seems like the tweezer mute would be the most helpful for the "three strings per note" section. Am I accurate in the assumption? I recently discovered that I have the skill to tune pianos (relative pitch and what not), and all I have are two tuning hammers. This was very helpful, so thank you!
Yes, the Papp's Treble Mute is most effective on the notes that have three strings per note.
Steve would love to have seen how the paps mutes only the outside strings of the trichord allowing tuning of only the middle. Seems that the prongs on mine are too thin to fill the space between the adjacent notes
What is the diameter of the tip of the tuning hammer to fit a Steinway O- 180
The standard #2 tip should fit the model O.
Thank you
Excuse my dumb question, but I'm really having problems with my neighbours about the volume of my piano and I wonder if I could use the red tape you showed to damper it so it doesn't sound so loud. If not, is there any device I could buy to achieve that?
There is a device available that is called Quiet Keys that gets installed in your piano that can significantly reduce the volume of the piano.
Great and informative video. Question - When I'm tuning a piano, and I'm on my last string to tune (a note with three strings), and I finally get the last string tuned to "one" sound, why does it sound so bad when playing a perfect fifth or fourth with another note? Also, I noticed that some of the notes I previously tuned get out of tune by the time I'm completely done tuning the entire piano. Why is this? Please help, thanks so much!
It could be that the pitch drifts some while tuning. This could be due to not getting the pin set correctly or it could be that if you're doing too large of a pitch adjustment, this will cause the pitch to drift while tuning. If your 4ths and 5ths sound bad when you're done, you'll want to check to see if the notes are still where you left them.
Great. I tuned another one yesterday and I fiddled a lot less with going back and forth with the pins. That seemed to help. Thanks again for your suggestions!
Yes, it will get easier the more you experience you get.
Hello, I just starting to tuning my piano for the first time. But When I get to about C6 and up it get kind of hard to put the rubber mutes in. The hammer would strike on the rubber mute, there is some sound, but it doesn't seem clear enough, so I can tune the middle string. I hope you understand what I meant that. Is it because my piano string is to short? :( I have a Kawaii Upright Piano. Please let me know. Much Thanks
Yes, there isn't much room above where the hammer strikes to put the mutes in that section of the piano. What I do is to use the narrow 1/4" wide mutes for the section that has dampers when it gets above the treble break. There should be enough room above where the hammer strikes to fit this size of mute. For the highest section of the piano that doesn't have dampers, I use a temperament strip and place it below where the hammers strike which is where the dampers would be if there were dampers in that section. Hopefully this helps.
THANK YOU for asking this question. I was wondering the same. I am jammed after Bb6 for this. His answer is great.
Thanks Saul Goodman!
put the camera on a tripod for stability. Hard to watch the wiggle.
You speak too much!!!