TOUR OF FLANDERS 2024 | THEMOVE
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2024
- Mathieu Van Der Poel is having a dominate spring season and Flanders was no exception. The Move team discusses uncertainty further Quick Step and a bright future for American cycling.
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Speaking about WVA, our heart goes out to him. Wish him a complete speedy recovery and a super strong comeback. 🙏 for peace and comfort during this time of healing.
lance giving shit to hincapie about the helicopter cracked me up seriously 😂
Mathieu van der poel did same at E3 SAXO BANK CLASSIC last week
attacking on the Paterberg with 43km to go and then holding off Van Aert right to the finish that was a great solo ride .
No mention of UAE finishing 3rd, 4th and 5th nor of Morgado being the youngest rider to finish in the top 10 of a monument in the last 50 years.
During the broadcast on Belgian television it was reported that George still holds the record for the ratio of participations to arrivals in the Tour of Flanders. So congratulations George!
That's crazy, he was no Joop Zoetemelk, but Hincapie is seriously one of the most consistent runners ever
lol sry...did not see your comment......yep but I think they said 16 ...am I wrong?
@@dyantebrinke6477 yes I think that’s what they said.
@@BoltzmannOcto He sure was. As a matter of fact, you don’t necessarily have to be a winner to be considered a hero in our Tour of Flanders history. 😀
And Congratulations for the young Portuguese rider, António Morgado, the youngest rider in top 5 since the WWII
🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱❤❤❤❤❤Mathieu van der Poel ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️💯💯💯❗️👏👏👏👏👏💪💪💪💪💪nu al een legende‼️✝️❗️👏💪
regarding MVDP flip & injury: there is an interview in Czech cycling magazine with his father Adrie where he mentions it:
"His back pain no longer bothers him. He came up to last yeat during the WC in Hoogerheide and said: "Damn, Dad, I haven't felt any pain anywhere for a really long time". And fortunately it remained like that for the whole year 2023. Today he rides the bike in a completely different way and moving to Spain also benefited him incredibly"
MVP had a 54/40 with an 11-28T cog on the back. No easy day for anyone riding that bike.
My legs are in pain even thinking about that
And Matteo did 1 up on that not sure but like 54/ 41 or something may be iam wrong n to be corrected. monster front chain rings, time trialing on uphills
On the broadcast Gilbert said 11-30
Great edition of The Move. JB in Austin, keep crushing it, thank you. I love that the cycling world seems to be ablaze in content lately, but The Move is VERY hard to beat with the four. Loved the comment from George on 17 and never walking up. Insane. Good reminder on Hinault... will watch... and thank you again Team WEDU.
QuickStep's focus has indeed changed over the years. The focus is less and less on the classic spring, but more on Remco Evenepoel and his clique. The men of the classic spring are therefore still the same as years ago (Alaphilippe, Asgreen, Lampaert, ...) but they have gotten older and/or become physically exhausted. No new blood has entered the classic team, while the money and focus goes to supporting the Evenepoel project. And then of course you get these substandard results in the spring classics. And Remco is not going to save their classic spring every year by winning LBL: this year he will have to compete against Pogacar and the chance that Tadej will have to abandon again for the second year in a row with physical damage is of course mathematically possible but not very likely.
great episode! you know despite i listen to other recaps from other channels about the same race, i keep listening here because I value the different exp, the analysis, and your individual takes as experienced professionals on this field. More races to come, keep it up^
The reason the US based guys always picked Wout over MVDP is that they are focused mostly on the TdF, where Wout had his best performances. Europeaan based cycling fans are equally focused on one day races, and they also know what is going on in cyclocross. So they have always known that MVDP was a little bit above Wout. But Wout shifted his focus to road racing earlier whil MVDP was still doing more cyclocross AND mountainbiking in the middle of the road racing season. Plus Wout isnaturally more disciplined and sensible in what he does, MVDP did plenty of silly stuff during races and outside racing.
Last year MVDP for the first time in his career focused solely on a limited number of road race he wanted to win, and he won three of the four biggest one day races and was second in the other. This winter MVDP basically had his first really good preparation for the road season, and cyclocross was only a short side show. So that is a scary prospect for the others.
I do hope that Wout will one day win at least one of these two races, he might be a little bit below MVDP, but he is farabove all the other riders so he really deserves it.
Both WVA and MVDP shifted their focus to the road at the same time (2018 I think). But MVP had that dream of mountainbiking gold at the Tokyo Olympics (we all know how that pursuit ended) so on the one side he had to choose periods to race mountainbike qualifyers when WVA was sloughing it out in the Tour, and on the other side his team Alpecin wasn't already big enough to even be invited to compete in the Tour in those years 2018-2020 anyway, so he had to chose other races to compete.
Wout also has had some truly bad luck over the years. For instance catching Covid-19 a week before Tour of Flanders in 2022 made him lose out on competing those classics (RvV and AGR) or if he hadn't had that flat tire last year in PR, he might very well have won that race instead of MVDP. Also injury wise WVA hasn't been blessed the last couple of years. MVDP, although having some back issues in the past, luckily for him never has had to face enormous or grave wounds and injuries like Wout did in the Tour of 2019, which took him for half a year out of the game, or in Dwars door Vlaanderen 2024, which will cost him once again months of recovery.
In the end I think MVDP currently has gotten the edge in one day racing but WVA is still the superior stage racer.
@@frederikdewaele3549 MVDP did not start seriously racing in the road in 2018, and he did not go to the TdF because that was not part of his plans due to MTB, it had nothing to do with invitations, he just never had any plans of going there.
And MVDPs back problems could not be seen from the outside like Wouts injuries, but that does not mean that they did not bother him just as much. Of course Wout has had some terrible luck too, and I do hope that he manages to win these races eventually. But in all these spring classics they raced together I do not think that Wout managed to drop MVDP even once, the other way around happened regularly. I think the 4-1-2-1-2-1 stat of MVDP says enough. With the 4 being after he had bad luck and had to come back on his own from a minute back.
@@rulifaller84744-1-2-1-2-1 is a crazy stat, Cancellera even said that he will probably have 4 or 5 wins at RVV by the time he ends his career
That was his plan this year…..
I do not think it is fair to say only three people made it up the hill riding when MVP attacked. The single guy off the front lost his chain and was screwing around on the side of the road when MVP passed him. He blocked up the road for all the rest behind when he tried to get restarted and once the first few riders had to stop it screwed all the riders behind as well. I am sure many others were capable of riding up it as well if they had a clear road like the first three had.
For what it’s worth; the Belgian commentators observed that he had not lost his chain - he lost his back wheel on the slippery cobbles and then tried to manually get his chain on a bigger cog to allow him to resume his ride (which he wasn’t able to do so he had to continue by foot)
I saw him adjusting his chain so I thought he lost it but thanks for the clarification Either way it was a great break for MVP right after he attacked and started stringing out the group behind.
Looking forward to your Tour de France coverage.
Mvdp and team rode a tactically perfect race, he was blowing up a bit at the end, which shows he is human
Every Time Pogi or Mvp wins, we've Lance smiling on the thumbnails. If Jonas win or takes time... We've a confused looking Lance on the thumbnails, like TDF 2023 stage 5-16-17, lol
What happened one of the most exciting, scenic scenes in all cycling: The ride up the to the Chapel on Easter Sunday?
Many were complaing, too. Sacrificed for VIP tents on 3 Oude Kwaremont/Paterberg crossings...the wall of Geerardsbergen with the chapel ontop is a bitbb too far away for those final Kwaremont rounds...unless they switch the starting point..😊
How do you think the Americans will do in the Olympics this year? Also which Americans will be racing in both RR and TT? Great show has always guys!
Matthews said if he veered a little more maybe he wins MSR- so a tough break between these two races. Otherwise, I really thought all the teams would collude to attack MVDP left and right in a clear Prisoner's Dilemma situation, but what do I know.
Youngest riders to finish top-10 in a monument since 1945.
1 ZANAZZI Valeriano 19y + 249d 1946
2 WOUTERS Joseph 20y + 39d 1962
3 MORGADO António 20y + 63d 2024
4 ALBANI Giorgio 20y + 130d 1949
5 ROSIERS Roger 20y + 156d 1967
The commentators on sporza ,Belgium television, had a nice stat concerming George Hincapie.......16 starts, 16 finishes in de ronde van Vlaanderen.
Chapeau, chapeau
Hehe, I just reached part of vid where Hincapie talks about his tour of Flanders participations and he talks about 17 starts.....even better
Hopefully the Easter egg drop didn’t turn into the WKRP turkey drop.
Matteo was clearly the rider that came closest to MvdP in terms of the shape of the day and that’s very impressive.. He’s 24, we are witnessing a star in the making. He’s clearly in the right team and he’s eating, breathing and dreaming cycling… Just like…. that’s right a certain MvdP….
Mathews may have a bonus for podiums?
You aren't correct, if you say only three riders didn't have to walk on the Koppenberg. The television didn't show it well, but I think about half of the peloton did keep on cycling on the Koppenberg.
“We Comin”
7X! Never ever forget! Now…Gorge needs clear eye glasses. Was-up with that? All thee rest. On point. Through the eyes of experience. Dueces!
I am really looking forward to LBL this year, since MvdP and so many other big names are on the startlist. Could you imagine Remco, Roglic and Mathieu fighting it out on La Redoute?
Maybe for 2nd place, Pogacar should take this one
Mads said he could not produce max power due to crash so he was going to try and make race consistently hard
Wouter van Aert is of the Giro list
I wanted to see the TT in Basque today. How the f… do they get to start with the favorites before TV gets on. There must be some sponsors who thinks the same as me. This will lose the fans for sure if it continues. What are wedu`s take on this?
Who the F is Mate'o Van De rPole? :) Someone please teach George how to pronounce Mathieu....
Disgraceful for not mentioning the youngest rider to finish a monument in a top 10 position (was actually 5th) in the last 62 years (since 1962).
Hats off for Luca Mozzato.
What would have happened if Tadej Pogačar raced? He's also at a different level...breaking every one. Let's remember, he won last year. It's a "shame" we couldn't see the battle MVP - Tadej P. - WVAert.
Antonio morgado 20years 5th 1time!!!
What ever happened to Quinn Simmons?
Well, after the drama, disaster and the damage of "Dwars door Vlaanderen" to the competitors - especially WVA - MVDP could actually only lose this race if the other teams would ride against him in a block to isolate him. Which didn't happen because instead of doing that, the other important teams actually mainly raced against each other and Alpecin-Deceuninck was actually spared because at certain times others did the dirty work and therefore did not have to be done by the MVDP team. Also... what a stupid kamikaze move by Mads Pedersen: he really played with his strength (with an anchor like MVDP's teammate Gianni Vermeersch on his wheel) for a predictable zero return. Tactically seriously screwed up I think...
Having Wout here would have made the race easier for MVDP. None of the others were anywhere near his level, so he would have had some help until the last climbs.
Why MVDP made it look easy? He kept the lead two minutes almost all the way.
Is JB wearing his pyjamas in his hotel room???
???
😂
@@TheJbhager the othe JB!
Mateo attacking with 111k to go? Try to sit on Mathieu’s
wheel till the end? Patience. Visma poor tactics?
*Mathieu
Did they even mention runner-up Luca Mozzatto name? They prefer to talk about same s**t from a couple of years like "oh, what happened to Quickstep?" Disrespectful.
Please Lance get rid of the F bomb! We have youth that love to watch your podcast and still believe you are an all time Champion! As well as I do. We admire you and your team!
😅😅😅😅.
Seriously, what the fuk
So how many did he let off today?
I can accept the cheating and the lying and the bullying and the lawfare, but do you have to use so many cuss words??
Walking up, looks almost impossible.
The Pogacar fan Channel here must be happy Vingegaard is out and Pogacar win The Tour de France 😂😂😂 because its The only way he can win
Pedersen had 4 kilo of fluids In his body after midweek crash 💥 and had spent all time on home trainer in winter clothes sweating 🥵 most of it out of his body… he didn’t have the power today. But no one besides POGI could have followed the world champ on those steep climbs today anyways…
Perhaps Wout van Aert might have done it, but due to his terrible crash last wednesday with a broken clavicle, seven cracked or broken ribs and a cracked sternum, not to mention burns over his entire back due to the asphalt (btw he left the hospital today), we'll never know what he would have been able to do to counter MVDP. 😕
Pogacar was in magical shape in last year's Ronde and he had dry roads to play with his watts. This year's race was part cyclocross. Climbing the Koppenberg (which is scary even in dry conditions) in the rain (the cleaning machine couldn't get up there because it slipped) is a whole different beast. That is as much cyclocross technique as it is revving your big engine. I think that Wout van Aert would be better suited to accomplish this then Pogacar. But we'll never know.
@@jeroenschoondergang5923 Pogacar, although certainly not at the level of WVA and MVDP, has some cyclocross experienceof his own as well. He even was Slovenian champion for the season 2018-2019.
It's mainly technique on a wet Koppenberg in that you need to stay on the centerline of the cobbles and not go ride towards the sideparts of the cobbles. If you do that you slip off and either fall or have to stop because you lose momentum and speed.
@@frederikdewaele3549yeah. Slovenian champ is totally the same.
WVA is under too
much pressure at Visma, making mistakes cause of that, same happened with Gesink....it's not a fun team to ride for. you do not see the same pleasure at WVA as At MVP.
Who are theses people?
Matthew? Really?
A video with three of the most infamous cheaters in sports history.
Buy EPO and use, then grab a bike and star race a TDF and win 7.… when u done, back and make a comment 🤣🤣
finally they punished Matthews ... he should have been DQ in MSR as well...guy riding like this entire career and now wants to kill ppl in some classics
Hardest Flanders ever? Pleez, 15 pound aero bikes practically pedal themselves
Please provide the links to your Strava record of all the Ronde van Vlanderen rides you have done.
Pedersen was the strongest
😂😂😂
LMAO🤣🤣🤣
A pity it's a cycling race and not weightlifting then........
He would at least have finished on the podium if trek didn't make him do a 35 solo 24 seconds in front of the peleton with 90 km to go
Also the stupidest
Doper man trying to convinve everyone he knows anything other than doperman ways......When and where did you use motors? Who paid the Million to the motor developer? Was it you doperman?
Lance is still a lying faux bully...but, now he's also just old.