Identifying NATURAL vs LAB Created Stones
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- In this week's Unboxing, Natalie is joined by Elizabeth (the Geologist) in a Q&A about how to identify the difference between natural and lab-created stones.
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My wedding ring is all lab grown gems and honestly, I prefer it over it being real. If my wedding ring was all natural, we would have never been able to afford it, let alone it even existing (got some big pieces of Alexandrite on it). I love Lab created gems!
I agree!! In addition, think about all the blood diamonds and mining.
Not only that. No nature was ruined getting to the stones. Maybe they should be rebranded as 'ethical gems'.
It really isn't accurate to consider synthetic gems to not be "real" because they are generally the exact same materials (unless you just go with glass or plastics those could be considered fake) sometimes with fewer flaws, they just aren't made through natural processes.
@QRW Sec That's rather defensive.
True but idk, to me theres something beautiful that Diamond is created from the earth by itself. Its authentic to me and Lab grown is made recently while diamond has been here for millions of years. I guess the history is more meaningful to me. Diamonds are overrated tho
I think that this one episode taught me more about gems than any other video that I’ve ever watched on your channel. Not to say that your other videos didn’t teach me, but I never realized how easy and/or difficult it can be to actually know what you are getting.
Super!! So glad you liked this episode and it was informational!! Thanks so much for watching our videos!!
I like the real thing. The only fakes i do like are the color changing stones... Just because of the novelty of them
If there's a spider in that box that was grown in a lab, you might be the new Spider Woman.
ok... maybe I'd be okay with a spider if it truly gave me "spidey" powers!! Just to be safe, maybe I should start making my costume?!! Thanks for watching!!
@@gems You make my spidey sense tingle
These videos have given me hope. After a long day of school, I love to lay down and watch this channel, thanks JTV I love you
thats great!
Lol I’m dead when you can’t learn things at school
Since Fluorite has been used as lenses for telescopes and microscopes, I'm sure lab created Fluorite has been made for these purposes. Also, I like that natural yellow Sapphire crystal.
Lab created alexandrite, ruby, YAG, and others are used in lasers as well.
Love Elizabeth! She's so calm and quietly confident 😇
I have a lab-created opal bracelet that is stunning. People can't really tell the difference from a glance but I really like it and actually forget that they are not "natural" stones.
Natural stones possess magical healing properties lab grown do not
Your video about pophyllite helped me identify a pair of specimens I have! Thank you!
Hello Natalie Elizabeth,
I love the syn Lab grown crystals also. I like the Lab Padparadsha Saphires awesome. PS Thank you Elizabeth for taking the time to be on cameria U R awesome.
Very nice presentation Elizabeth and Natalie. Having watched a couple of videos, I'm now a subscriber.👍🏼
As a cutter, I'm always working with both natural and lab-created. Like Elizabeth, I don't like inclusions in the final product, but they are indeed a fact-of-life in the business.
I do like the Q&A format for a subject such as this one, as it keeps both the viewer and the presenters on-point.
My favorite lab-created gemstone has to be the ruby. It cuts and polishes very well and the clarity and color are amazing. I recently had a friend who is fairly new to faceting tell me that he really wanted a nice cut stone to mount for his sister... I pulled a lab-created ruby out of my "secret drawer" and he did a fantastic job with it.
Sir John, I have saw you commenting also on the channel of Mr. Cliff
Regards from Guadalajara Mex
This is awesome! I learned a lot. 👌
I feel like you guys are really talking to us!
Terrific! Glad you liked! Thanks for watching!!
Thanks Ladies, awesome video. My favorite is Alexandrite.
Very informative video for the novice enthusiast! Thanks for your expertise and willingness to share info
I am a jeweller silver/goldsmith. First let me just say unlike many in my profession I love lab created stones. I agree totally with what you said that if a customer looks they can find a lab created stone to suit what ever desire they want in it, and not have to wait a million years to get it. As far as I am concerned natural gems are way over priced and should never go as high as some of them do regardless of how nice they are. With that said, I do like natural stones as well and will use those in my jewellery most of the time. But I still like to make pieces normal people can afford and that is the bulk of my business. Not everybody has 20 grand to buy an emerald or ruby with. This is where Lab created gems are outstanding for and many of my clients think they are almost always more beautiful then a natural stone. The only exception is diamonds and even those are getting way better in the lab. Soon I can see lab stones bringing the price of natural stones down a notch in price as more of them are sold. My favourite lab grown gems are rubies and emeralds. You can get emeralds with inclusions made into them that you just cannot tell the difference from a natural stone with the naked eye. Now I don't believe every gem looks better created in a lab. There are some gems that lab created stones just cannot copy the beauty of. But many of the high end gems out there they can. At the end of the day to me, it is all about how they are presented in a piece of jewellery. When I create a piece of jewellery weather I am using a 50.00 lab gem or not, I treat it with the same respect and design approach that I would a 50k sapphire. What makes any piece of jewellery special is how it looks on the client wearing it and the pride they feel from owning it. Price only comes into play when deciding the budget you have to spend on a piece of jewellery. It should have nothing to do with the quality of the piece that was created by a real craftsman. Of course that is all just my opinion and practices. Thank you for the video.
This sums things up nicely. Lab and naturals have their places. Agreed that some lab alternatives are quite there yet. But on the ones that matter they are very good. I bought myself a lab emerald from a guy in Ukraine and it is stunning. My natural emeralds are also stunning but I would have never been able to afford that clarity, saturation, hue and even the size in a natural.
Amazing information thanks 👍
Thank you, Elizabeth! Thank you, Natalie! My favorite lab created gemstone is Alexandrite. My birthday is in June, and i love the gemstone, but there's no way I could ever afford a Russian Alexandrite.
Loved that you covered rough.
I have a Reactor watch. Not sure what kind of crystal face it has but its Tough! I work on a farm as maintenance and all my last watches died from somehow getting the crown ripped out. When I saw Reactor watches had a screw down crown i was sold. I've been wearing it for 2 years now and amazingly the crystal face only has one tiny little scratch. My last Citizen watch that got the crown ripped out once, repaired and ripped out a second time a year later was all scratched up after 2 years. This isn't really supposed to be an infomercial for the watch but more a testament to the toughness of the lab grown crystal.
Lab sapphire is quite lovely, and ibhave recently discovered the lab created diamond from lightbix and thay are beautiful
Love the knowledge.
So interesting to know more about lab grown gemstones. Truthfully I didn’t realize it was pretty much a sterile way of copying nature producing gems. Thought was just similar, but not same chemically
I’d like to learn about synthetic gems designed with combinations of elements, heat, and pressure that would be improbable to find in nature, which result in completely different gemological architectures. I just found your channel, so if that videos out there, do tell 😁.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "different gemological architectures" but cubic zirconia and moissanite are two examples of synthetic gemstones which you don't find in nature, at least not in quantities, qualities, and sizes that you could use to make a gem out of. Also YAG, GGG, Strontium Titanate, and Lithium Niobate come to mind as well.
I've always loved the color of turquoise but I think I would prefer a real stone because knowing that it came naturally made is psychologically kind of cool to think about
A synthetic purple saphirre ring(3.25ct) is coming home this week ..then i want an other synthtic yellow saphirre ting (6ct) tho ..some vintage rings i found on the net tho
this episode was so educational!!! it’s so fun!!!
is it possible to grow gems in a lab that are already in a certain shape, or do the processes we have now still require cutting? for example, could a lab decide it wants to create 2carat diamonds in a round cut and have them come out pre-cut or do they have a big ole slab of stone they then cut?
The crystal structure and creation method will determine what they come out like. No way to have them pre-shaped as far as I know, especially diamonds. Even if they were essentially made in a mold there's no way to be sure the crystal grew in the direction you want which could also theoretically cause problems.
Nice video, learned a lot. Will have to watch more. On a side note, Elizabeth is a stunning knockout!
My lab grown diamond wedding ring is beyond perfect and I wouldn't trade it for any natural diamond because the lab grown's quality is so far beyond every other ring I've looked at. I've got a lab grown green-blue moissanite ring cut in a dutch marquise on the way so, I'm excited to see how it looks in person!
while I learnt something as a total newby it would have been great to get some super close up views of what you're talking about, especially when you talk about using a loup, thanks
There was a video of the Diamond Making Process on UA-cam. The Russian Process has Diamonds in cylindrical refractory canisters in a row to make the soak or annealing process viable, best price for the quality.
I have a lab grown faceted blue quartz crystal which I like a lot.
#1 to think about... This video was made by JTV. They grow alot of their stones in their own labs. So are you & I smart enough to not only listen here but also do more to learn about these beautiful gens!gems!! I bought my very 1st moissanite from JTV... OMGosh!! GORGEOUS STONES!! At first these stones had a slight yellowish color but still totally believable!! That was so long ago that the undergallery of my ring has a "CW" on it... Charles Winston!! I now have 5 moissanite rungs that I adore! My $25,000.00 REAL diamond literally sits in a box at our bank. Sad part is I don't miss it. Moissanite is incredibly gorgeous stones that have only gotten better with time!! Hopefully someday I'll be able to get my dream pink moissanite engagement ring. JTV's changed over time. First it started changing their sets, then new faces everywhere and then their prices soared!! I get it....progress,lol! Still a great place to see some beautiful pieces of jewelry and some great hosts!!💞DO RESEARCH & SEARCH FOR THE BEST DEAL ALWAYS💞
0 dislikes great job guys
I think someone disliked this video just to throw you off
6 people ruined it.
Now there's 16
Question I have seen sights that say created stones.which does that lean more towards lab created or simulated 🤔?
I think that is the BEST matter of discussion of all!
You MUST be respected to be informed and to know if the gemstone is real or fake.
The market is so gentle (in an excessive way) that they even the word "synthetic" for ARTIFICIAL "stones".
The fact is that the REAL, the NATURAL gemstones is what will have the best price and premium above all.
Since your company is reliable, that is a favour even to yourself to spread the word:
The more people know how to recognize and separate the NATURAL ones from the artificial ones, that will be a great thing even for business and businessmen in general.
Reliable companies have nothing to hide.
And those should be the greatest interested in teaching people about that and letting people well informed and cultured.
I really adore the gemologist of this video. She is a high skilled professional. And an example of great ethical values.
Not only economical values, but she praises the ethics as well.
THANK YOU
If your watch says it has "X" number of Jewels, it's referring to the number of lab-made Ruby bearings in the watch. Ruby is very hard and therefore has low friction.
I've bought many lose gemstones from many different sources my struggle is separating the lab created from natural in part because it's such a wide variety of sources at variable prices it's hard to determine if any were over or under paid for. I have only I feel successfully identified the opals and black star sapphires as natural but all the other colored gemstones I feel clueless.....I also don't know if any of these did come from extremely high end pieces as sometimes from deceased jewelry store owners children who don't know what any of it is......so judging color and clarity I feel is harder with these
Thanks for the video. What is the best synthetic gemstone tester would you recommend to test gemstones?
For color gemstones, magnification is your best friend. Some lab created stones can be identified with a 10x loupe. I prefer a gemological microscope. You can view the gemstone using different lighting conditions to view the internal characteristics of the stone. Most lab created colored gemstones have distinctive inclusions or growth features. Moissanite can be differentiated from natural diamonds with a loupe. Diamonds are singly refractive and Moissanite is doubly refractive so when viewed at certain angles the facets will appear to double. Lab created diamonds versus natural diamonds are trickier. In clean natural diamonds and lab created diamonds there are not tell-tale inclusions to go by. Some of the entry level equipment options start out just below $6,000 which is out of reach for the casual gemstone hobbyist. I suggest sending any diamond you are worried about out to a professional gem lab.
@@gems Thank you for your wisdom. God bless you.
I have a lab created Tanzanite ring it's very pretty but it doesn't do it for me. I also have a natural Tanzanite ring the color is amazing the color can't be duplicated. Love it!
Fun fact: unlike many other gemstones, lab-created (or synthetic) Tanzanite actually doesn't exist, at least not commercially. What you have would be correctly called a Tanzanite simulant.
Yeah thanks Josh, just what I thought just plain colored glass but I still like it... 😊😄😂 Lol
Shop around. They have varying colors.
Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of Tanzanite stimulants (primarily synthetic spinel), but the color has never been close to good natural tanzanite (Kashmire blue sapphire is another one I’ve never seen done right).
I'm a big fan of lab alexandrite. Color change is so cool.
I love lab grown gemstones. They’re always perfect and best part? Affordable! The only gemstone I buy natural are opals. They are much prettier than lab ones.
Thank you🥰🥰🥰
I do appreciate lab created gemstones but love the natural ones better although like you mentioned that lab created ones are flawless, and I don’t diasagree. As a matter of fact, I have in my collection lab created pink sapphire, padparadscha and alexandrite and I absolutely adore them in jewelry setting.
12 natural gemstones made it into the Bible due to their ability to show every color in the rainbow when hit with the purest light known to man.
The Bible shows gods throne was made of shimmering natural blue sapphire stones.
Natural Gemstones are known to have energetic healing properties that lab grown simply can’t possess.
Really enjoyed this one! I was hesitant about lab created before, kinda felt they were "lesser". But since I'm an emerald person, they are certainly the prettiest option in my price range! Thanks for the insight.
There are few things as beautiful as Emerald in its natural state. Inclusions included
I love lab created ruby; perfect color and clarity.
Perfect is not good
i like all of them,i don't mind the lab ones at all less damage to nature overall
Also human life
do the natural ones glow differently to the lab grown ones? like under a UV light?
Oh no, still no mention of moissanite despite the topic of lab grown stones. That's just not fair!
Well it doesn't usually have a gem grade natural equivalent, so could be considered more of a completely artificial thing.
What about the UV test, from what I have seen a lot of synthetic stones glow under a UV light.
i think is amazing that we can get gorgeous jewlery and not kill the earth
Burmese Rubies are so expensive, you almost have to buy lab created ones for jewelry (if you are not rich)
I love the color of yag paraiba, but why is it so expensive???
I am wearing a natural 10k gold red diamond ring and a natural 10k gold Ruby ring. I just found out that they were not lab created when I was speaking with a professional jeweler!! They were both passed down from my ancestors as well, which is the reason I never take them off. They are so so special to me and incredibly beautiful! 😍😍
Natural red diamond? Have you had it appraised? Natural red diamond is enormously valuable.
In the 80s I worked in a lab figuring out how to make diamond coatings. We made sapphires to verify our equipment was working. These were perfect to an atomic level.
If you find a sapphire gem that is not absolutely perfect, there are better industrial stones.
Lab created gems help avoid any moral issues about mining practices, including worker exploitation and wondering whether anyone died getting that stone.
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Thank Yous for the video . My Mom had a Pink Sapphire about 4 k , I remember seeing some mini specs and a large hue of Orange color on It too , the Ring looked like a Flower , Daisy petals , White Diamond mini Solotaires in Verticle surrounding the large
Pink Sapphire ~ I think like a Princess , Square shape , in the center . Does the Orange and lil’ slight dark specs indicate It is a Natural or Lab Gem ? Thank You 🌌💖🤍⚪️
Buying good lab created gems is not an easy, simple affair. You have to search (same as with earth mined) and find what you truly want. Synthetic rubies and sapphires for example can be had for as little as $10-but the colors are muted or garish and they tend to be dark. Finer quality corundums (ruby, sapphire) are more like $200+, and look much richer and vibrant, but there are still vacancies, such as Kashmire/Ceylon blue sapphires-I’ve still not seen a good synthetic sapphire in this coveted blue shade.
Highlights among lab created colored gems to me are hydrothermal emeralds. They now make them in both Columbian (vibrant bright bluish green) and Zambian (darker herb green) varieties. And you can hunt and find them with obvious inclusions, that while not fully matching the inclusion “jardine” of earth mined emeralds, do give the stones more personality and scattered light reflecting patterns, more like earth mined beryl (emerald).
I think if I were collecting a gem, I would want something natural and raw. For jewellery, there's no reason why you shouldn't get lab grown.
I want real not fake
@@victoriae9837 what the difference between glacier ice and regular ice
@@kenfern2259 it’s land ice. Not from the sea. Your point?
@@victoriae9837 both are fresh water , both drinkable , both cold , only difference is age . What's ur point ?
@@kenfern2259 you asked me what the difference is and I was not meaning to be rude in WHAT IS YOUR POINT. Lab created vs real dug up gemstones to me are different they are made by man. When you brought up water well the glacier ice is very thick can be tall and long have depth so you are saying lab created gemstones vs real gemstones there is no difference? I believe there is. I am going to double double check because I read about it years ago and I think it is insane that lab created in .925 Sterling silver or 14kt and up golf the lab created stone the ring is sky high. I found a place in another country that you pay 1/10th of what you would in America for the gemstones and setting. I like friendly conversations and water is water no matter how it is formed unless it’s salt water. I am sure places have fabulous water I know a city that hot water comes out of the ground. People come with jugs to fill up with this hot spring water. So, I believe some waters are better depending on where you are. My what is your point is we were talking gemstones and you posted to me about water. Well, we know the glacier is different water per se.
Do you buy natural burman ruby
Natural gems like Emerald, Ruby, and Alexandrite becoming more and more scarce. My great grandmother bought a nice natural emerald ring for 300$ that would be worth over a thousand today. Ridiculous isn’t it? Now poorer quality emeralds are just as much as high quality ones simply because they are being mined out. Emerald takes over 10000 years to form so it’s not surprising. So really, lab created stones will be the future. As much as I love the imperfections and inclusions in the natural stones, lab created stones are more environmentally friendly and affordable for their amazing color and brilliance.
Every high end watch uses lab grown Safire for the glass and other things in the gear workings
0:41 was that the taking damage sfx from minecraft?
What would the value of a 4.25 lab created ruby be worth? Antique ring early 1900s
My favorite gem stones are opal and alexandrite. Lap created opal looks awful but lap created alexandrite looks beautiful.
Lab created opal looks fake.
@@Jackaroo. Highly depends on if it is truly lab created opal, or simulated opal (not made of the exact same chemical make up as real opal). Real lab created opal is insanely close to being unable to tell the difference, can even increase the amount of water in them to have them crack if they dry out too much.
how do I tell if my 'white topaz' smooth round cut rondelle beads are real topaz and not other than topaz?
Your topaz will have an RI of 1.606-1.644, a specific gravity between 3.490-3.570, and a mohs hardness of 8. Colorless to white topaz can be inert to weak yellow under long wave ultraviolet light with a weaker reaction under short wave light UV. Topaz will show a biaxial optic figure in a polariscope and might show basal cleavage that can be iridescent. The next closest suspect would be rock crystal quartz. It has an RI 1.544-1.553 and a specific gravity between 2.640-2.690. Quartz will not show basal cleavage and should have liquid inclusions and feathers. It has a mohs hardness of 7 and it should show a bull’s eye or uniaxial optic figure in a polariscope. Most colorless quartz will not fluoresce.
A lady from jewelry store told me that Synthetic stone is different from Lab stone, is that true? whats the difference?
In gemology, "synthetic" refers to manufactured (i.e. not formed naturally) gemstones which have a natural mineral counterpart. Their chemistry, structure, and physical properties should be essentially identical with the natural counterpart. So, something like flux melt emerald is called a synthetic. If it is manufactured but doesn't have the properties of a natural counterpart, it is called a simulant. That would something like Goldstone imitating Sunstone or CZ imitating Diamond.
Many real materials are enhanced. Nothing wrong with having a budget and getting one of everything thru simlulents, and colorless stone enhancement.
❤ very good job love u sister
For those who are curious, there is a segment in "How It's Made" that shows video on how a diamond is 'grown' in a lab using pressure and plasma. I believe that kind of diamond is being commercially labeled as 'cultured diamond'. You can search the video in UA-cam.
Identifying heat treated sapphire .
I know they are called lab created gemstones but I like to use synthetic crystals
can they make a sapphire
I don't mind lab created gemstones one bit. I'd love a 5-carat diamond ring and 4 carat diamond studs. But I've never been able to find them cheaper. They seem nearly as expensive as the earth grown gemstones so I'm not tempted to buy "my ring."
And diamonds
Our country don't have some stone mines like others where they have alot... same with jade ...I seen them sale for dirt cheap in those third world countries and go for millions here in u.s. ...
Hello! I love geodes!!!!!
Do u think I could go to every pawn shop in my state with lab grown rubies in a rusty treasure box and say they’re natural rubies and sell them for lots?
Look long time ago purple was precious now it's just bought and sold cheap same thing we should do to these precious stones that can be made synthetically. I think rare elements are more precious than these things.
Any natural Gems with inclusion or even the ugliest gem will be costing millions of $ in the future since lab created will be so common and regular to see Im saving all my natural gems for my next gen 🧬
Precure - never heard this word 😢
Wh as te better for the environment?
Rubies are so pretty
First off let me put in my 2 cents and say that I prefer natural versus lab. I have 2 natural Alexanderite and I’ve seen the lab equivalent and I definitely prefer the natural because of the way that light reflects and bounce off of the natural. I also have 2 blue star sapphires , with 1 being a natural and the other being a Lindy sapphire . The Lindy is the man made, they are both being a carbidhone cut”sic”. But the natural one, although it is much larger forms a better 6 ray star than the other one. The color is also a deeper blue and , this is a subjective standpoint, If compared to each other side by side, the natural just has a more unique quality that I just can’t put into words.
You've got bad lab created then. What part of lab created stones are EXACTLY the same as natural stones are you not getting?
@@catzkeet4860 I am very much aware of the difference between lab vs natural gem stones. So, no , although the same, they are not identical. That is if you know what you are looking for.
Lab Blue Sapphire
14:14 Quite easy to find this ruby (on the right) for under 20$ on Ebay
Shipping included (search for synthetic ruby, around 200 carats).
This is real ruby, the exact same composition than a "earth grown" gemme.
We can also find already cut ruby (lab grown, on Ebay, for 20$ or cheaper), but the cut is usually low quality.
Where can we go to have that 200 carats boule cut into a bunch of very nice 1-5 carats? What would be the cost?
Super picky about inclusions here. Lab grown makes for beautiful gemstones and jewelry that are attainable for the average person.
when ruby diamonds introduce themselves
How much is a real Burmese ruby worth? and who will buy it?
If you can make it worth more I will give you 75%
I hate seeing Natalie interrupted. You can tell Natalie doesn’t enjoy it either.
Anyway- as always, amazing content!
describe with picture, please
Can a lab grown diamond have a blue fluorescence ?
I will search endlessly for completely untreated stones. I think owning one that came from the earth just feels more special 💎
Masonite , diamond , cubic zirconium
I wanna pass down my jewerly. I don't know how I feel leaving lab created
My birth stone is Ruby. I’ve taught myself the different between real and lab. A lot of it comes down to deducted conclusions.
Labs are real
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Labs are real just from a lab instead of earth.
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@@raven_ous2585 so if I grow a tomato instead of finding it my tomato is fake because I grew it... Got it, good logic
Hey from Canada can you get a lab diamond for’$200.00??
A star sapphire
i have gem www.irgemsjewelry.com
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Don’t bother trying to hold things out for close ups, cause we don’t get the close ups. Yeah, color change Alexandrite at the end, I’m talking about you. You guys can do this.