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Brodie, I am with you regarding how impossible following a team or even a sport has become. In the chase for the almighty dollar, leagues have divided the rights to games. Hockey is my favorite sport, and I need four different streaming services to watch my Bruins. At one time, all I needed was the NHL package. Thanks again for what you do.
@@TheJttv The problem with that is owners like Dean Spanus won't put money into those stadiums because "they don't own it", considering alot of NFL owners are daddies boys playing with their daddies money, they like to be cheap.
In a way, gambling addiction is worse than drugs or alcohol. With alcohol or drugs, your body will give out. Waking up in the emergency room what someone needs in order to get help. There’s nothing like that for gambling. Also, it is easy to avoid heroin or even alcohol. But an app on your phone is impossible to avoid.
The streaming and division of all the sports and making it so you need so many services to watch your favorite team/league playing is getting to the point where the average fan can't watch anymore. I remember when the all the games were either on Free TV or 1 other cable/premium channel. It's beyond absurd. Thanks for the shows here on YT, Brodie.
Regarding betting, I saw a survey in summer of 2023 claiming 26% of the roughly 450 American respondents spent at least $500 a month on gambling. If that’s an accurate representation of the average person, that’s insane. If you make $15 an hour, that’s a little over a fifth of your monthly income (pre-tax) spent on gambling at a minimum!
you can bet it is worse then that.. you got people that will spend damn near their entire pay on that shit. and for all the gambers, just like the lotto YOU AIN'T GOING TO WIN. and if you think you are a winner, you ain't you lost.
Part of that problem you can blame on the over coverage of betting. Years ago the media of all types did not speak of odds or sports betting in general. Now between the lotteries promoting those super high prizes that are almost impossible to win and then the general news in all media stressing those high prizes but not explaining the high odds against you winning. It is no wonder we are creating more problem gamblers. I grew up in a family that believed in gambling. Mostly on horse racing since that was the most available at that time. But we also played Bingo, cards and some other gambling games. However I was taught at a young age the basics of every betting type and latter in college took a course on statistics that we actually called it gambling 101 because so much of the course discussed the odds of outcomes and how it was determined. Most people have no idea of how hard it is to win any type of bet. That is one of the reasons the sports betting services are now stressing parley betting. If you loose even one part of that bet you loose. We need better education on gambling if it is going to be such a large part of ordinary life.
I swore off on paying for long term subscriptions after prices started soaring back in 2017. I only get stuff from bundles, free trials, or piracy. Pay walling everything makes sports highly inaccessible for kids and young adults, it's no wonder sports participation among the youth is declining.
Good episode, Brodie! Major League Soccer did just that thing you suggested: made a deal so that all games (ALL games) are available in ONE service, no blackouts, on any device, anywhere in the world, pretty cheap ($99/year - and FREE if you're a season ticket holder for any club!). Their fans HATE it. Mostly because they believe they should be able to get the games on rabbit ears or something. Yet it's incredible next to any other major US sport right now.
My sense is that relocation as a stadium negotiating threat was on a long hiatus because of expansion and tightening of city budgets. For the past couple decades expansion in leagues made it harder to threaten relocation because the likely relocation cities were getting expansion teams and there are only so many cities that have population and financials to be viable. But I remember threats in the the 80s and 90s all over the place because teams actually moved (i.e. NFL: Raiders, Colts, Oilers, Rams, Browns).
Always been scary that the sports leagues would be contempt with allowing people with betting problems to be constantly exposed to their problem and then slap a “help line” like it’s an end all be all solution to the problem not everyone will report their gambling problems either of embarrassment or because literally every station every podcast is telling them to gamble (brainwashing)
The good news is the threat to move teams is slowly going to become null and void. With how expensive these stadiums are and how leagues always want one bigger & better than the last, soon cities are going to start saying, "OK, see ya." Because there are only so many viable cities that can financially support a major league team, and what happens when all other options are exhausted?
Can anyone remember a single pro sport, that since before the year 2000, that hasn't had a major gambling controversy that nearly irreparably damaged it's reputation. Like shoeless joe. It used to be pro sports avoided gambling like the plague.
The we'll move threat is bigger now but it has existed for a long time. Look at the Cleveland Browns situation in 1995. I used to live around Nashville, TN. Around there, there was a lot of people who changed houses every few years and tore 30 year houses down. But, even there, it wasn't the norm.
Sports betting is out of control. I bet on sports for fun at a low stakes amount, but it is ridiculous seeing all the Odds and Suggested Prop bets on pre-game shows.
Brodie - I really appreciate the issues you bring up and the way you address them. Not enough people acknowledge that issues might not be black & white. You do a great job acknowledging that solutions are not always simple but I think you are right to bring up these 5. Thanks for a great year of interesting videos. Best wishes in 2025!
Since the analog-to-digital television switch, it’s been very difficult for me to watch stuff. After my divorce, I never had had cable. I’ve gotten new tvs a couple of times, gotten new antennas. But even when I hit in a good combo of them, it rarely lasts for more than a year. I’ve only been able to get moderately extended periods of catching the NFL. Now, I can’t watch anything on TV. I can only catch Thursday Night Football now, on my phone, on my Twitch account. But most of the time, I forget about the game. I did happen to tune in briefly last week and saw that Wild free kick FG, and saw about the last five minutes of the game. I saw the last few minutes of games about three, maybe four times in total, including the free kick game. I agree with all the points you brought up, especially about relocations during negotiations and lack of stadium/arena durability.
Thanks Brodie. Spot on with all these points. Especially the broadcast issue. As an avid fan I’m ready to just say screw it. Plus, local blackouts are just plain stupid, and I think the younger generations of audiences are completely lost. My kids have very little interest in watching sports broadcasts anymore due to the insane number of commercials and interruptions… they simply don’t have the attention span and I don’t think it’s just my kids… seems like an entire generation is at risk of losing any kind of loyalty to their local sports teams. Hope I’m wrong
I get my Mets fix on Sirius/XM. I already subscribe for my music and they have Mets radio as a selection. Howie Rose, the best radio PxP voice in baseball! I canceled my MLB TV subscription because of $$, blackouts and the shoddy way that MLB treated the fans of the A's and the City of Oakland.
Agree completely on all five points. With regards to #2, I place a lot of blame for that on the Atlanta Braves, in particular. Them weaseling their way out of Turner Field after just 20 years set such a bad precedent.
I think I have done a trial subscription to 4 different streaming services this year. It is really becoming cable all over again. Love the idea of 1 app to lead to the right place to watch the game.
Actually NJMAXROCKS the pioneers (unfortunately) for the Kings of Relocation of American Sports goes back to the 1950s. Then Brooklyn Dodgers Owner Walter O’Malley and NY Giants (Baseball) leaving Metro New York City for California. When the simple solution was around 1960, MLB expanding to LA and San Francisco instead of the MLB Giants and Dodgers staying east.,
Jimmy from Chicago….Hi Brody….Too many streams,subscriptions,…complications,…..many fans say….later… as far as the betting….It’s not going away but it’s out of hand!…..Great show..Brodie!….Youre the best!😊😊
The big problem with streaming/subscription services is that it doesn’t allow teams to capture the casual fan. Channel surfing helps, as does buzz around an event that is accessible. Market only to existing fans, and you’ll never get new ones.
Without legal sports bets, nearly 100 percent of radio sports stations would disappear. Even here in SC where sports betting is illegal, tons of ads from sports books in NC 120 miles away.
The Blue Jays also did some phases to renovate the Rogers Centre. I know the outfield areas were done one offseason, then the 100 level was done the next offseason.
Honestly they did a decent job on the skydome, I think Rogers understands that they will basically never have a better location within Toronto as that one right downtown with good transit and tourist infrastructure
@@rmdvto Bonus: Rogers owns the Rogers Centre, so they paid for the whole thing themselves, though it did cost Toronto and Ontario taxpayers around $500M in 1980s dollars to build it before it was sold it for $31M and Rogers then bought it for a mere $25M. Agree it looks great now, especially the Outfield District, Also love the outfield wall design and the bench seating within mere feet of the raised bullpens.
@@michaelmarkowski204 Buying that stadium for $25 Million is one of the steals of sports. I love the renos they've made, and it looks better on TV than it ever has.
Teams will use relocation as a threat even when it's staying in the same metro area. Being a DC fan we just saw it with the Capitals and Wizards using the leverage of a new arena proposed in Virginia to get over $500 million from DC for arena renovations.
Ive been watching your content for a while now and have now subscribed. Im a huge hockey fan and like that you cover that (bonus now that you work for the Sharks). I agree with all of these but sports betting has really gotten out of control and league partnerships with gambling outfits dont help much. Especially with the perception that the NFL is rigged!
The one trend I do like as a sports fan. Is the format that sports networks are doing with talk shows. We have host’s who’s never played the sport yelling/talking over the ex player/sports expert. It’s annoying as a viewer and doesn’t give any credibility. As far as stadiums. I think any owner should have to pay for entire project. And commissioner should vet the owners more of how they will run/develop a team. Bring in passionate owners of the sport.
In the late 90's the Denver Broncos threatened to leave for LA to get a new stadium. They even changed to their current logo to remove the "D" from their old one. Wow, the Yankees own their own network and their fans still have buy a bunch of services to get their games. Something is messed up.
The issue of teams and leagues dividing their rights was much less of an issue when all the games were on base tier cable, which is still the simplest way to subscribe to and watch most, but not all games w/ exclusive games now on ATV+, Amazon Prime Netflix, and Peacock.
I agree with all five. I don’t really mind if a team “threatens” to relocate if it’s just to a different city in the same metro, but not threaten to leave the area entirely 14:20 . If the Royals can get a better stadium and deal in Kansas, go for it…i also don’t care if the Rays end up in Tampa or St Pete, but hope they don’t go to Orlando, Nashville, etc.
I went to a football game at the DBacks stadium last night-it’s fine to visit occasionally, but it just feels a bit run down. Look at Coors Field, built in 1995, and will probably never be replaced as long as they maintain it properly. It’s not nearly as complicated as Chase Field, though. As far as teams moving-the A’s have moved 3 times already! It’s an old trope.
Greed and Over-expansion of Playoffs/season in all leagues, adding teams in NBA, CFB, MLB NFL all watering down playoffs, nfl adding 17th and possibly 18th game decreases value of season and over extends it. The cfb playoff games proved that adding so many teams has no real competitive value but to make more money…
The upcoming renovation of the Delta Center in Utah to accommodate the Utah Hockey Club is being done in a “modular” fashion. In the 2025 offseason, they will rebuild one end of the arena bowl, and then do the other end in the 2026 offseason. Then, in 2027, they will raise the floor 3 feet in order to make all the sight lines good for both hockey and basketball. And during the seasons, they will do work on the concourses and exterior of the building. By the end of the 27-28 season, we will essentially have a brand new arena. The Delta Center opened in 1991, and it’s currently 33 years old.
The worst thing Atlanta ever did, was give in to the Falcons when they threatened to move to Jacksonville if they didn't get a new domed stadium. Should have let Jacksonville have them! They did get their new stadium, The Georgia dome which only lasted 25 years
Agree with all of these, and the sports betting is really bugging me now. Sports at least are a form of entertainment that provides social bonding and inspires some people to be physically active. What value are we as a society getting from this proliferation of sports betting on top of that? We're just enriching companies for luring people in with ludicrous sign-up deals and getting them hooked to throw away money. No real world value is created from people correctly predicting a match outcome or some stat line. The leagues and networks were doing just fine before taking ad revenue from these companies. I get why you think it won't go away, but something has to be done about this huge time and resource wasting vacuum. Thanks for talking about this, Brodie.
Fenway park and Wrigley Field had to be significantly rebuilt in the last ten years. Baltimore is renovating Oriole Park and M and T bank stadium (Ravens) to extend their lives for another 30 years. They are doing this over several offseasons. The rest of the five I agree with.
I have no issue with sports betting existing, and glad that it is more legal nowdays. The issue I have is the overload of ads for betting during sports, and the presentation of odds being given as part of the in-game broadcasts. It appears to be an effort solely to normalize gambling as an integral aspect of the games, and while I am concerned for people already with gambling addictions, I worry that it is directly marketing this to kids. They might not be able to bet now, but it is setting them up as future "customers" of these services.
How about a team - like the Rays - that trade away fan favorite players as soon as they become arbitration eligible and due a pay increase. Rays always have a great minor league system but as soon as these guys start performing they are used as trade bait to replenish the minor league teams. Hard to grow a steady fan base that way.
Analytics I think needs to be on this list-- while I'm for games getting smarter, it's a problem when we blindly use it irrespective of the situation (i.e. continue to shoot threes when your 2-15 in the game).
The marriage of gambling/sports book with pro sports is the one trend that is ruinous, and arguably can be connected to each of the 5 trends you’ve wisely called out. The reasoning is endless, but you and your subscribers get it!
MLB needs a salary cap .. It’s totally unfair that small market teams can’t compete .MLB is the worst run sport of all the big 4 ..NFL , NBA , NHL , MLB ..Manfred destroyed the game ..
There was a lot more pride in ones work than there is today .Today its all about continuous turnout .When I first saw Levi Stadium ..my first thought was that the stadium wasn't finished ....same wioth the old Paypal Park - when it was Aviya
One thing about the stadium lifespan: there is a logic to restricting it to 30 years in theory. A lot of municipal/government buildings are given 30-year lifespans due to commercial/mass usage, accessibility requirement changes/evolution, facility condition index, etc. Sometimes it's less expensive to raze and rebuild a facility than it is to maintain it. I'm a volunteer with a school board advisory committee and FCI is a big topic about once a year. With that said, I think the way you do in that there needs to be better forethought put into initial construction as far as futureproofing whenever possible. Be aware that things may and probably will change, and build your facility to adapt where and when it's appropriate.
Here's a worse trend. Sports are turning more Hollywood where the celebrities, fashion, and music performances are looked at as bigger than the sports itself. Perfect example, the NFL.
Amen to the broadcast point. I am not sure why these leagues do not understand that this is the REASON people are pirating streams now, because they cannot afford to pay for 6+ subscription services and are sick of finding out things like blackout rules exist. If your customers have to search just to find out what service a game is being broadcast on, you as a business have a problem. The leagues see the dollars being paid now, but they do not seem to realize the long term damage they cause to the fanbase doing things like this.
RE. head trauma: Currently, there is no test for CTE - only way you know for sure is after the person passes away and an autopsy is done on the brain. The symptoms tend to get progressively worse over time as the tau protein tangles multiply. Needs to be taken much more seriously (e.g., Numerous hits to the head in football or hockey regardless of how many resulted in actual concussions, or repeated heading of a soccer ball, again whether concussed or not).
I think the best multipurpose stadium in the world is the Sapporo Dome in Sapporo, Japan. It can smoothly transition from playing baseball to the play football (soccer)
I am from Japan and I watched A’s games in Oakland. The Coliseum was known as the worst stadium but I felt there like home. Now I feel so sad about the relocation. To me, the Coliseum is more than Yankee Stadium and fans were really great! I wonder how those great fans feel. I do not hate relocation and Las Vegas but I felt A’s movement is not proper.
Leagues should mandate that every media company they license to, that puts games on their streaming service, has to provide a "deep link" to games so that aggregation apps like Apple's TV app and JustWatch can collect all games together, even when selecting launches another app. In Apple's case, Netflix and Fan Duel sports don't provide deep links.
On sports' injuries, do Rugby players have many injuries? They don't seem to have much protective gear. Same for Australian Rules Football and Hurling. A lighter note, in days gone by Sporting News use to list all the radio and tv affiliates of each MLB team. A simpler, lower tech time though.
I enjoy sports, particularly MLB. But as it becomes more and more challenging to watch the games I want to see, instead of subscribing to more services instead I find myself losing interest. With so many other entertainment options, it becomes more like why bother? Yeah, if a game I want to watch happens to be available on a channel I already have access to, I’ll probably watch unless I have something more interesting to do. But I find that over time I become less engaged and interested in the sport. So when I can’t see a game, I miss it less and less as time passes. More often lately, I find myself thinking no imma skip watching and check out the box score online afterwards.
I don’t watch sports live anymore. I download it afterwards with all commercials removed. And NFL, I download the condensed games that are just offensive plays, ~40 minute long game. Tired of endless commercials, sports betting shoved up my nose endlessly, it’s all garbage, it’s all a scam and these leagues aren’t getting another cent of my money
I remember when you could watch a local sports team on a local station on cable or just over the airwaves. Never missed a game. Now it's so stupid and the money I alone pay out is crazy. And now these streaming services are holding leagues hostage basically, all because of the mighty dollar. Next year, I may not be able to watch a Tigers game unless they play the Blue Jays or I try some pirate streaming site. And those are always sketchy. What a way to lose fans.
You will also note that college football stadiums seem perfectly capable of remodeling/rebuilding a stand at a time... when they have to. NFL/MLB/etc. are just selfish tbh.
This is mainly an MLB trend but could probably apply to every league to an extent. Its the same teams making the playoffs or winning trophies. Who will make the playoffs next year in MLB? Well NYY, HOU, LAD seem to have a lifetime contract on that. Which leads to why I dont care about MLB. No hard cap. Needs to be like the NHL where you have to spend a min and the max is close to it.
I feel for the players getting concussions. A guy like Tua is going to have to decide at some point if the thrill of competing and the money is worth the cost of early dementia. But it is part of the game. Guys are bigger, faster, and hit a whole lot harder as a result. But it comes with risk. I saw an interview with Joe Namath and he said it takes him about 15 minutes to get out of bed each morning. But he also admitted he knew what he was signing up for. I smoked for many years. I knew the risk and I'm paying for it. The best they can do is improve the equipment but if they water down the game they'll lose viewers. People tune into hockey and football games to see guys hit each other. As for gambling I agree it has gone too far. Gambling has always been a dirty business and it dirties up the game. I used to bet with bookies when I was young but I had to go out of my way to find them. Now the team owners are married to the mob so to speak. Just like Myer Lansky predicted, there is too much easy money to resist and he said it was just a matter of time before governments and corporate types would take it away from them and make it legit. There was a reason Kennesaw Landis banned all betting establishments from ballparks after the Black Sox Scandal. Not only does it make it easier for the addicts to ruin their lives, it creates doubt in the mind of the viewer. I recall a game where one play resulted in a 65 million dollar swing in the betting houses. Sure, the players get paid well, but how easy would it be to buy off a few refs? It's already happened in the NBA. If people start thinking the games are fixed they will walk away in droves. How much money gets laundered each week? Those stadiums are clearing houses. That's why the NFL paid off St. Louis when the Rams left. The last thing they wanted was a forensic accountant sniffing through the books. Gambling increases cash flow. Cash flow increases greed. Greed increases lawlessness. It's not rocket science.
I have given up on really following sports on TV. Luckily Sharks tickets are decently cheap so I can get a package to go 1-2 times a month at home and just check box scores otherwise. That comes out cheaper than having cable and all the needed extra services.
"Too difficult/costly to find team's broadcast" is tops for me, because it's pure greed. Something that DOESN'T need to be that way. I live in the North Bay. I can watch 90% of nhl games just with espn+. But I can't watch the Sharks, because I'd have to pay $100+ a month for comcast or youtube tv. Hard pass on both (don't get me started on what youtube tv has become!) Any hockey game on NHL Network... blacked out on espn+. And there's a lot, including lots of Bedard games I can't tune in to see. I do have access to TNT games, but only with my parents' cable login in NY.
It's not just sports leagues that benefit re. making more games more interesting for those fans who have money on the line, but governments too. In 2023 in the province of Ontario alone, just under $1.5B in revenue was generated in legal single-game sports betting by IGaming Ontario (the province's government-regulated market). That means far more money was lost by bettors than won - as expected, the house (usually) wins, and the government can put the money to use. Legal sports betting may even be viewed as a "voluntary tax" to help keep mandatory taxes down, but at a huge cost to those who are addicted to sports gambling. Leagues used to not want any ties to sports betting (thus no major league pro sports teams in Vegas) - now it's apparently no big deal.....
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Brodie, I am with you regarding how impossible following a team or even a sport has become. In the chase for the almighty dollar, leagues have divided the rights to games. Hockey is my favorite sport, and I need four different streaming services to watch my Bruins. At one time, all I needed was the NHL package. Thanks again for what you do.
sail the high seas man
#1 tax payers paying for billionares stadiums.
We should be paying for new schools instead of stadiums.
I agree - if teams keep bullying cities into new stadia and make the public pay then they will build new ones every chance they get
Steve ballmer puts other owners to shame.
my biggest problem is that tax payers put up the money then dont even own it. Atleast give the county/state ownership rights for the % we pay.
@@TheJttv The problem with that is owners like Dean Spanus won't put money into those stadiums because "they don't own it", considering alot of NFL owners are daddies boys playing with their daddies money, they like to be cheap.
In a way, gambling addiction is worse than drugs or alcohol. With alcohol or drugs, your body will give out. Waking up in the emergency room what someone needs in order to get help. There’s nothing like that for gambling. Also, it is easy to avoid heroin or even alcohol. But an app on your phone is impossible to avoid.
The streaming and division of all the sports and making it so you need so many services to watch your favorite team/league playing is getting to the point where the average fan can't watch anymore. I remember when the all the games were either on Free TV or 1 other cable/premium channel. It's beyond absurd.
Thanks for the shows here on YT, Brodie.
Regarding betting, I saw a survey in summer of 2023 claiming 26% of the roughly 450 American respondents spent at least $500 a month on gambling. If that’s an accurate representation of the average person, that’s insane. If you make $15 an hour, that’s a little over a fifth of your monthly income (pre-tax) spent on gambling at a minimum!
you can bet it is worse then that.. you got people that will spend damn near their entire pay on that shit. and for all the gambers, just like the lotto YOU AIN'T GOING TO WIN. and if you think you are a winner, you ain't you lost.
Part of that problem you can blame on the over coverage of betting. Years ago the media of all types did not speak of odds or sports betting in general. Now between the lotteries promoting those super high prizes that are almost impossible to win and then the general news in all media stressing those high prizes but not explaining the high odds against you winning. It is no wonder we are creating more problem gamblers. I grew up in a family that believed in gambling. Mostly on horse racing since that was the most available at that time. But we also played Bingo, cards and some other gambling games. However I was taught at a young age the basics of every betting type and latter in college took a course on statistics that we actually called it gambling 101 because so much of the course discussed the odds of outcomes and how it was determined. Most people have no idea of how hard it is to win any type of bet. That is one of the reasons the sports betting services are now stressing parley betting. If you loose even one part of that bet you loose. We need better education on gambling if it is going to be such a large part of ordinary life.
I swore off on paying for long term subscriptions after prices started soaring back in 2017. I only get stuff from bundles, free trials, or piracy. Pay walling everything makes sports highly inaccessible for kids and young adults, it's no wonder sports participation among the youth is declining.
Good episode, Brodie! Major League Soccer did just that thing you suggested: made a deal so that all games (ALL games) are available in ONE service, no blackouts, on any device, anywhere in the world, pretty cheap ($99/year - and FREE if you're a season ticket holder for any club!).
Their fans HATE it. Mostly because they believe they should be able to get the games on rabbit ears or something. Yet it's incredible next to any other major US sport right now.
My sense is that relocation as a stadium negotiating threat was on a long hiatus because of expansion and tightening of city budgets. For the past couple decades expansion in leagues made it harder to threaten relocation because the likely relocation cities were getting expansion teams and there are only so many cities that have population and financials to be viable. But I remember threats in the the 80s and 90s all over the place because teams actually moved (i.e. NFL: Raiders, Colts, Oilers, Rams, Browns).
What if we just accepted that not every stadium needs to be brand new and top of the line?
Where do most new stadium desires originate?
Always been scary that the sports leagues would be contempt with allowing people with betting problems to be constantly exposed to their problem and then slap a “help line” like it’s an end all be all solution to the problem
not everyone will report their gambling problems either of embarrassment or because literally every station every podcast is telling them to gamble (brainwashing)
Agreed. Too much advertising about betting but none on its high odds of loosing.
Thanks for speaking out about the betting problem. The conflict of interest not helping the credibility of the leagues’ integrity.
The good news is the threat to move teams is slowly going to become null and void. With how expensive these stadiums are and how leagues always want one bigger & better than the last, soon cities are going to start saying, "OK, see ya."
Because there are only so many viable cities that can financially support a major league team, and what happens when all other options are exhausted?
Can anyone remember a single pro sport, that since before the year 2000, that hasn't had a major gambling controversy that nearly irreparably damaged it's reputation. Like shoeless joe. It used to be pro sports avoided gambling like the plague.
@4:30 Retractable roof stadiums cost a lot to maintain. Moving those large roofs causes a lot of strain on the internal parts.
The we'll move threat is bigger now but it has existed for a long time. Look at the Cleveland Browns situation in 1995.
I used to live around Nashville, TN. Around there, there was a lot of people who changed houses every few years and tore 30 year houses down. But, even there, it wasn't the norm.
Sports betting is out of control. I bet on sports for fun at a low stakes amount, but it is ridiculous seeing all the Odds and Suggested Prop bets on pre-game shows.
Agreed, those prop bets are just to drive more profit for the gambling companies.
Worst trend: Athletics playing anywhere other than Alameda County.
Brodie - I really appreciate the issues you bring up and the way you address them. Not enough people acknowledge that issues might not be black & white. You do a great job acknowledging that solutions are not always simple but I think you are right to bring up these 5. Thanks for a great year of interesting videos. Best wishes in 2025!
Since the analog-to-digital television switch, it’s been very difficult for me to watch stuff. After my divorce, I never had had cable.
I’ve gotten new tvs a couple of times, gotten new antennas. But even when I hit in a good combo of them, it rarely lasts for more than a year. I’ve only been able to get moderately extended periods of catching the NFL.
Now, I can’t watch anything on TV. I can only catch Thursday Night Football now, on my phone, on my Twitch account. But most of the time, I forget about the game.
I did happen to tune in briefly last week and saw that Wild free kick FG, and saw about the last five minutes of the game. I saw the last few minutes of games about three, maybe four times in total, including the free kick game.
I agree with all the points you brought up, especially about relocations during negotiations and lack of stadium/arena durability.
Thanks Brodie. Spot on with all these points. Especially the broadcast issue. As an avid fan I’m ready to just say screw it. Plus, local blackouts are just plain stupid, and I think the younger generations of audiences are completely lost. My kids have very little interest in watching sports broadcasts anymore due to the insane number of commercials and interruptions… they simply don’t have the attention span and I don’t think it’s just my kids… seems like an entire generation is at risk of losing any kind of loyalty to their local sports teams. Hope I’m wrong
I can't even watch the Mets anymore because UA-cam tv dropped sny and mlbtv has a blackout.
I get my Mets fix on Sirius/XM. I already subscribe for my music and they have Mets radio as a selection. Howie Rose, the best radio PxP voice in baseball!
I canceled my MLB TV subscription because of $$, blackouts and the shoddy way that MLB treated the fans of the A's and the City of Oakland.
Agree completely on all five points. With regards to #2, I place a lot of blame for that on the Atlanta Braves, in particular. Them weaseling their way out of Turner Field after just 20 years set such a bad precedent.
Thanks Brodie...this video got me to thinking a bit and thats a good thing...
I think the stance taken by St Louis over the Rams leaving and their financial compensation from NFL is a lesson more cities should take.
The Rams should have stayed in LA in the first place, but that's another issue
I definitely agree with the broadcast one. If it's a weekend game I have no clue where to watch my Mets.
I think I have done a trial subscription to 4 different streaming services this year. It is really becoming cable all over again. Love the idea of 1 app to lead to the right place to watch the game.
In the 80s, the Giants, White Sox and Mariners all threatened to move as a negotiation tactic.... So not a very new trend.
Actually NJMAXROCKS the pioneers (unfortunately) for the Kings of Relocation of American Sports goes back to the 1950s. Then Brooklyn Dodgers Owner Walter O’Malley and NY Giants (Baseball) leaving Metro New York City for California. When the simple solution was around 1960, MLB expanding to LA and San Francisco instead of the MLB Giants and Dodgers staying east.,
And the 90's( 1992) for the Giants
My number 1 is “load management.” My number 2 is public money being spent on any privately owned sports team stadiums.
I agree brother! Please keep doing what you do!
you nailed this brodie.
Given up on professional sports. It’s better to go to a collage game in person and catch the occasional pro sports.
Struggling right now with CFI, if possible would love a video on how you got through it, good work Brodie!
Damn I was kinda thinking about getting a membership to watch these videos!
Jimmy from Chicago….Hi Brody….Too many streams,subscriptions,…complications,…..many fans say….later…
as far as the betting….It’s not going away but it’s out of hand!…..Great show..Brodie!….Youre the best!😊😊
Hi Brodie. The Kingdom in Seattle was a perfect example. Designed and built to last 1,000 years, but was blown up after only 25.
Lol. These new houses will be lucky to last 30 years.
Wrigley Field renovation took 5 years
@5:00 People didn't think Wrigley Field would last forever. The West Side Parks didn't last that long (Cubs former stadiums).
the Braves and Texas Rangers are egregious examples of no.2
The big problem with streaming/subscription services is that it doesn’t allow teams to capture the casual fan. Channel surfing helps, as does buzz around an event that is accessible. Market only to existing fans, and you’ll never get new ones.
Wrigley Field outfield renovations are a perfect example of the Modular issue
Without legal sports bets, nearly 100 percent of radio sports stations would disappear. Even here in SC where sports betting is illegal, tons of ads from sports books in NC 120 miles away.
The Blue Jays also did some phases to renovate the Rogers Centre. I know the outfield areas were done one offseason, then the 100 level was done the next offseason.
Honestly they did a decent job on the skydome, I think Rogers understands that they will basically never have a better location within Toronto as that one right downtown with good transit and tourist infrastructure
@@rmdvto Bonus: Rogers owns the Rogers Centre, so they paid for the whole thing themselves, though it did cost Toronto and Ontario taxpayers around $500M in 1980s dollars to build it before it was sold it for $31M and Rogers then bought it for a mere $25M. Agree it looks great now, especially the Outfield District, Also love the outfield wall design and the bench seating within mere feet of the raised bullpens.
@@michaelmarkowski204 Buying that stadium for $25 Million is one of the steals of sports. I love the renos they've made, and it looks better on TV than it ever has.
5:25 I completely agree with the thought, but I would say maintain what you have. So it goes the distance.
Teams will use relocation as a threat even when it's staying in the same metro area. Being a DC fan we just saw it with the Capitals and Wizards using the leverage of a new arena proposed in Virginia to get over $500 million from DC for arena renovations.
Even more important: When will OV break Gretzky's record for most career goals? Would be cool if he hit 1,000.
Ive been watching your content for a while now and have now subscribed. Im a huge hockey fan and like that you cover that (bonus now that you work for the Sharks). I agree with all of these but sports betting has really gotten out of control and league partnerships with gambling outfits dont help much. Especially with the perception that the NFL is rigged!
The one trend I do like as a sports fan. Is the format that sports networks are doing with talk shows. We have host’s who’s never played the sport yelling/talking over the ex player/sports expert. It’s annoying as a viewer and doesn’t give any credibility.
As far as stadiums. I think any owner should have to pay for entire project. And commissioner should vet the owners more of how they will run/develop a team. Bring in passionate owners of the sport.
The US desperately needs a gambling ad law to ban all of them during sports broadcasts and on any sports-related program.
I completely agree with you on the betting part, way too many commercials on something that could ruin your life just like any drug could
In the late 90's the Denver Broncos threatened to leave for LA to get a new stadium. They even changed to their current logo to remove the "D" from their old one.
Wow, the Yankees own their own network and their fans still have buy a bunch of services to get their games. Something is messed up.
Threatening relocation is not a trend, it's a constant
The issue of teams and leagues dividing their rights was much less of an issue when all the games were on base tier cable, which is still the simplest way to subscribe to and watch most, but not all games w/ exclusive games now on ATV+, Amazon Prime Netflix, and Peacock.
I agree with all five. I don’t really mind if a team “threatens” to relocate if it’s just to a different city in the same metro, but not threaten to leave the area entirely 14:20 . If the Royals can get a better stadium and deal in Kansas, go for it…i also don’t care if the Rays end up in Tampa or St Pete, but hope they don’t go to Orlando, Nashville, etc.
I went to a football game at the DBacks stadium last night-it’s fine to visit occasionally, but it just feels a bit run down. Look at Coors Field, built in 1995, and will probably never be replaced as long as they maintain it properly. It’s not nearly as complicated as Chase Field, though. As far as teams moving-the A’s have moved 3 times already! It’s an old trope.
Here is a trend that sucks…the pussification of football.
Greed and Over-expansion of Playoffs/season in all leagues, adding teams in NBA, CFB, MLB NFL all watering down playoffs, nfl adding 17th and possibly 18th game decreases value of season and over extends it. The cfb playoff games proved that adding so many teams has no real competitive value but to make more money…
The upcoming renovation of the Delta Center in Utah to accommodate the Utah Hockey Club is being done in a “modular” fashion. In the 2025 offseason, they will rebuild one end of the arena bowl, and then do the other end in the 2026 offseason. Then, in 2027, they will raise the floor 3 feet in order to make all the sight lines good for both hockey and basketball. And during the seasons, they will do work on the concourses and exterior of the building. By the end of the 27-28 season, we will essentially have a brand new arena.
The Delta Center opened in 1991, and it’s currently 33 years old.
The worst thing Atlanta ever did, was give in to the Falcons when they threatened to move to Jacksonville if they didn't get a new domed stadium. Should have let Jacksonville have them! They did get their new stadium, The Georgia dome which only lasted 25 years
The unfortunate part of this video is it only scratches the surface .
Agree with all of these, and the sports betting is really bugging me now. Sports at least are a form of entertainment that provides social bonding and inspires some people to be physically active. What value are we as a society getting from this proliferation of sports betting on top of that? We're just enriching companies for luring people in with ludicrous sign-up deals and getting them hooked to throw away money. No real world value is created from people correctly predicting a match outcome or some stat line. The leagues and networks were doing just fine before taking ad revenue from these companies. I get why you think it won't go away, but something has to be done about this huge time and resource wasting vacuum. Thanks for talking about this, Brodie.
Wrigley went through multiple off-seasons worth of renovations between 2014 and 2019.
Thank you for #5. If you didn't mention this I didn't think I'd continue watching your channel. Gambling is doing more harm than good.
Fenway park and Wrigley Field had to be significantly rebuilt in the last ten years. Baltimore is renovating Oriole Park and M and T bank stadium (Ravens) to extend their lives for another 30 years. They are doing this over several offseasons.
The rest of the five I agree with.
I have no issue with sports betting existing, and glad that it is more legal nowdays.
The issue I have is the overload of ads for betting during sports, and the presentation of odds being given as part of the in-game broadcasts.
It appears to be an effort solely to normalize gambling as an integral aspect of the games, and while I am concerned for people already with gambling addictions, I worry that it is directly marketing this to kids. They might not be able to bet now, but it is setting them up as future "customers" of these services.
How about a team - like the Rays - that trade away fan favorite players as soon as they become arbitration eligible and due a pay increase. Rays always have a great minor league system but as soon as these guys start performing they are used as trade bait to replenish the minor league teams. Hard to grow a steady fan base that way.
Analytics I think needs to be on this list-- while I'm for games getting smarter, it's a problem when we blindly use it irrespective of the situation (i.e. continue to shoot threes when your 2-15 in the game).
It was easy to watch baseball when The Cubs were on WGN and The Braves were on the Superstation
The marriage of gambling/sports book with pro sports is the one trend that is ruinous, and arguably can be connected to each of the 5 trends you’ve wisely called out. The reasoning is endless, but you and your subscribers get it!
MLB needs a salary cap .. It’s totally unfair that small market teams can’t compete .MLB is the worst run sport of all the big 4 ..NFL , NBA , NHL , MLB ..Manfred destroyed the game ..
A salary cap in MLB will never happen, if there is a strike over this issue in 2026, baseball will not be playing for a long time
There was a lot more pride in ones work than there is today .Today its all about continuous turnout .When I first saw Levi Stadium ..my first thought was that the stadium wasn't finished ....same wioth the old Paypal Park - when it was Aviya
One thing about the stadium lifespan: there is a logic to restricting it to 30 years in theory. A lot of municipal/government buildings are given 30-year lifespans due to commercial/mass usage, accessibility requirement changes/evolution, facility condition index, etc. Sometimes it's less expensive to raze and rebuild a facility than it is to maintain it. I'm a volunteer with a school board advisory committee and FCI is a big topic about once a year.
With that said, I think the way you do in that there needs to be better forethought put into initial construction as far as futureproofing whenever possible. Be aware that things may and probably will change, and build your facility to adapt where and when it's appropriate.
Maybe also because the municipalities issue 30 year bonds to pay for their portion of the construction.
Its rediculous paying for a sports package only to have more games getting taken by other channels and subs
Here's a worse trend. Sports are turning more Hollywood where the celebrities, fashion, and music performances are looked at as bigger than the sports itself. Perfect example, the NFL.
Amen to the broadcast point. I am not sure why these leagues do not understand that this is the REASON people are pirating streams now, because they cannot afford to pay for 6+ subscription services and are sick of finding out things like blackout rules exist. If your customers have to search just to find out what service a game is being broadcast on, you as a business have a problem. The leagues see the dollars being paid now, but they do not seem to realize the long term damage they cause to the fanbase doing things like this.
1% of sports fans having a gambling problem isn’t enough for draft kings etc. they’re pushing for 100% of people to have a gambling problem
RE. head trauma: Currently, there is no test for CTE - only way you know for sure is after the person passes away and an autopsy is done on the brain. The symptoms tend to get progressively worse over time as the tau protein tangles multiply. Needs to be taken much more seriously (e.g., Numerous hits to the head in football or hockey regardless of how many resulted in actual concussions, or repeated heading of a soccer ball, again whether concussed or not).
I think the best multipurpose stadium in the world is the Sapporo Dome in Sapporo, Japan. It can smoothly transition from playing baseball to the play football (soccer)
Very happy you put gambling on the list.
I am from Japan and I watched A’s games in Oakland. The Coliseum was known as the worst stadium but I felt there like home. Now I feel so sad about the relocation. To me, the Coliseum is more than Yankee Stadium and fans were really great!
I wonder how those great fans feel.
I do not hate relocation and Las Vegas but I felt A’s movement is not proper.
Leagues should mandate that every media company they license to, that puts games on their streaming service, has to provide a "deep link" to games so that aggregation apps like Apple's TV app and JustWatch can collect all games together, even when selecting launches another app. In Apple's case, Netflix and Fan Duel sports don't provide deep links.
I'd say the amount of public funds going to these billionaires is one of the worst
On sports' injuries, do Rugby players have many injuries? They don't seem to have much protective gear. Same for Australian Rules Football and Hurling. A lighter note, in days gone by Sporting News use to list all the radio and tv affiliates of each MLB team. A simpler, lower tech time though.
Screwy Stewie was always threatening relocation to get a new ballpark
Weren't the 49ers going to fine the contractor like $1000.00 a day if Levis wasn't completely done on some certain date ?
I enjoy sports, particularly MLB. But as it becomes more and more challenging to watch the games I want to see, instead of subscribing to more services instead I find myself losing interest. With so many other entertainment options, it becomes more like why bother? Yeah, if a game I want to watch happens to be available on a channel I already have access to, I’ll probably watch unless I have something more interesting to do. But I find that over time I become less engaged and interested in the sport. So when I can’t see a game, I miss it less and less as time passes. More often lately, I find myself thinking no imma skip watching and check out the box score online afterwards.
I could do without superimposed digital ads on hockey boards and stop with all the sports betting ads.
I don’t watch sports live anymore. I download it afterwards with all commercials removed. And NFL, I download the condensed games that are just offensive plays, ~40 minute long game. Tired of endless commercials, sports betting shoved up my nose endlessly, it’s all garbage, it’s all a scam and these leagues aren’t getting another cent of my money
Dave Kaval resigned for better business opportunities in California good riddance don’t let the door hit you on the way out!!
1. Gambling 2. Shohei Ohtani 3. Gambling 4. Gambling 5. Ken Rosenthal
I remember when you could watch a local sports team on a local station on cable or just over the airwaves. Never missed a game. Now it's so stupid and the money I alone pay out is crazy. And now these streaming services are holding leagues hostage basically, all because of the mighty dollar. Next year, I may not be able to watch a Tigers game unless they play the Blue Jays or I try some pirate streaming site. And those are always sketchy. What a way to lose fans.
There’s nothing wrong with being a Giants fan. Black and Orange is cool.
MLB blacks out >>SIX
"Nobody's home is supposed to last for only 30 years"
*stares in Japan*
If the stadiums lasted only 30 years, but cost 1/10th the price, I think we'd be cooking
You will also note that college football stadiums seem perfectly capable of remodeling/rebuilding a stand at a time... when they have to. NFL/MLB/etc. are just selfish tbh.
This is mainly an MLB trend but could probably apply to every league to an extent. Its the same teams making the playoffs or winning trophies. Who will make the playoffs next year in MLB? Well NYY, HOU, LAD seem to have a lifetime contract on that. Which leads to why I dont care about MLB. No hard cap. Needs to be like the NHL where you have to spend a min and the max is close to it.
I feel for the players getting concussions. A guy like Tua is going to have to decide at some point if the thrill of competing and the money is worth the cost of early dementia. But it is part of the game. Guys are bigger, faster, and hit a whole lot harder as a result. But it comes with risk. I saw an interview with Joe Namath and he said it takes him about 15 minutes to get out of bed each morning. But he also admitted he knew what he was signing up for. I smoked for many years. I knew the risk and I'm paying for it. The best they can do is improve the equipment but if they water down the game they'll lose viewers. People tune into hockey and football games to see guys hit each other.
As for gambling I agree it has gone too far. Gambling has always been a dirty business and it dirties up the game. I used to bet with bookies when I was young but I had to go out of my way to find them. Now the team owners are married to the mob so to speak. Just like Myer Lansky predicted, there is too much easy money to resist and he said it was just a matter of time before governments and corporate types would take it away from them and make it legit. There was a reason Kennesaw Landis banned all betting establishments from ballparks after the Black Sox Scandal. Not only does it make it easier for the addicts to ruin their lives, it creates doubt in the mind of the viewer. I recall a game where one play resulted in a 65 million dollar swing in the betting houses. Sure, the players get paid well, but how easy would it be to buy off a few refs? It's already happened in the NBA. If people start thinking the games are fixed they will walk away in droves. How much money gets laundered each week? Those stadiums are clearing houses. That's why the NFL paid off St. Louis when the Rams left. The last thing they wanted was a forensic accountant sniffing through the books. Gambling increases cash flow. Cash flow increases greed. Greed increases lawlessness. It's not rocket science.
I have given up on really following sports on TV. Luckily Sharks tickets are decently cheap so I can get a package to go 1-2 times a month at home and just check box scores otherwise. That comes out cheaper than having cable and all the needed extra services.
sail the high seas, plenty of places to watch.
NHL UA-cam channel shows 10-minute highlight packages of games.
"Too difficult/costly to find team's broadcast" is tops for me, because it's pure greed. Something that DOESN'T need to be that way.
I live in the North Bay. I can watch 90% of nhl games just with espn+. But I can't watch the Sharks, because I'd have to pay $100+ a month for comcast or youtube tv. Hard pass on both (don't get me started on what youtube tv has become!)
Any hockey game on NHL Network... blacked out on espn+. And there's a lot, including lots of Bedard games I can't tune in to see. I do have access to TNT games, but only with my parents' cable login in NY.
Also, my late father's last words to me on voicemail: "Anthony, I can't get the Rangers game."
After losing the North Stars to Dallas in '93, Minnesota was *not* going to lose the Twins. #NormGreenSTILLSucks
It's not just sports leagues that benefit re. making more games more interesting for those fans who have money on the line, but governments too. In 2023 in the province of Ontario alone, just under $1.5B in revenue was generated in legal single-game sports betting by IGaming Ontario (the province's government-regulated market). That means far more money was lost by bettors than won - as expected, the house (usually) wins, and the government can put the money to use. Legal sports betting may even be viewed as a "voluntary tax" to help keep mandatory taxes down, but at a huge cost to those who are addicted to sports gambling. Leagues used to not want any ties to sports betting (thus no major league pro sports teams in Vegas) - now it's apparently no big deal.....