The Final Betrayal - A Story of Trust and Loss

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  • @NellLowe-ev4bv
    @NellLowe-ev4bv Місяць тому +12

    That was the problem with the referendum in 2014, we allowed everyone and his dog a vote on our most important constitutional question, we were outnumbered in 2014 and would be doubly so next time. Indigenous Scots only and at the very least those who've lived for a min of 10 yrs in Scotland.

    • @johnhiggins4470
      @johnhiggins4470 Місяць тому +7

      I truly believe that we won in 2014. But we were naïve to think that Westminster would ever play fair. No more referenda for me. No more English people with second homes coming up here to vote on Scotland’s future. We have to find a better way to express the will of the Scottish people.

  • @maureenjohnston7414
    @maureenjohnston7414 Місяць тому +6

    Pleased to see you back Lloyd….

  • @mrmurella
    @mrmurella Місяць тому +11

    We need Oor Eva out front and centre, leading the push to get the electorate out in 2026 but it needs to start now if we are to inspire Indy supporters and Indy for Indy candidates. I can’t see any other way of us getting even close to getting over the line without this. Eva, you’re an inspiration and having Lloyd, Phil etc standing with you would be a master stroke

  • @waltersutherland4888
    @waltersutherland4888 Місяць тому +3

    Brilliant broadcast Roddy. Your guests were all on point.

  • @NellLowe-ev4bv
    @NellLowe-ev4bv Місяць тому +10

    I'm glad Westminster wouldn't allow a second referendum because there is no way Scotland will ever get independence by this route. No more ref, UDI only

  • @NellLowe-ev4bv
    @NellLowe-ev4bv Місяць тому +11

    Spot on Eva, they should be forced to collapse Holyrood ASAP, Scotland can't afford to wait another year.

    • @alexanderferguson2199
      @alexanderferguson2199 Місяць тому

      Why on earth would you want to close Holyrood?
      The entire world is laughing at Scottish Unionists and their fantasy of closing their very own Parliament.
      What sort of a person would even consider such an act of self harm?

  • @NellLowe-ev4bv
    @NellLowe-ev4bv Місяць тому +8

    Exactly Phil, the biggest betrayer of them all.

  • @NellLowe-ev4bv
    @NellLowe-ev4bv Місяць тому +8

    If 57% want another referendum that should mean that at least 57% want independence therefore the next Holyrood election should be held on a mandate of independence, if majority win declare UDI on day one.

    • @johnpurcell7525
      @johnpurcell7525 Місяць тому

      That's Independance within EU I suppose you have more IND now than you ever will in EU.

    • @FrancisCruickshank-k4w
      @FrancisCruickshank-k4w Місяць тому

      @@johnpurcell7525 NO NATO/NO EU they are all satrapes of usa.

  • @hanknice1318
    @hanknice1318 Місяць тому +6

    Thank you. Quality, AAA.

  • @sn4rff
    @sn4rff Місяць тому +7

    another excellent discussion.

  • @brendem2701
    @brendem2701 Місяць тому +6

    This is goin to be one hellova show on Sunday!!! ❤

  • @roberttabor720
    @roberttabor720 Місяць тому +3

    Another great show

  • @paulinebrown6605
    @paulinebrown6605 Місяць тому +2

    Really enjoy this show, listen carefully and it’s good to know knowledgeable folk are on the case! Thank you 🙏

  • @blueskye7962
    @blueskye7962 Місяць тому +16

    independence and out of NATO immediately. Peace prosperity we have a deadly hangover from the Clearances onwards in holding back the citizens from basic security of home and food and warmth. Whilst the crook class have been put on a pedestal and have pillaged the system. Italians get to vote on constitutional matters no matter where they are forced to live to bet work. We should be able to have our exile vote and not the folk who have just rocked up especially the huge sudden migration for September 14. It is more than gerrymandering.The Yes movement won but the whole referendum was manipulated illegally and knobbled. The culture now is across the world total denial of democracy and those who resist are targetted. Whilst we havent been bombed yet there is an accelerated push to asset strip Scotland of any economic backbone that would support our independence. We need this to be stopped in its tracks.

    • @FrancisCruickshank-k4w
      @FrancisCruickshank-k4w Місяць тому

      agreed that SCOTLAND should not be a member of criminal NATO and KEEP OUT OF UNDEMOCRATIC EU . EFTA WILL DO JUST FINE ! WE SHOULD STOP LISTENING TO MSM BBC/CNN PROPAGANDA WHO MANUFACTURE ENEMIES SO THE WEAPONS FOLK CAN GET BIG ORDERS FOR OVERPRICED AMERICAN ARMS ! ALBA GU BRATH

  • @NellLowe-ev4bv
    @NellLowe-ev4bv Місяць тому +7

    Go Eva.

  • @KizzieWiz
    @KizzieWiz Місяць тому +4

    Listening to Nicola Sturgeon,s lies fills me with a rage I’ve never felt before! 😡😡

  • @MARINA4163
    @MARINA4163 Місяць тому +7

    The SNP are blocking Saorsa. The only way is UDI, and it is entirely possible and legitimate to do it under a people’s movement.

    • @Puffball-ll1ly
      @Puffball-ll1ly Місяць тому +4

      Dream on

    • @kurikat13
      @kurikat13 Місяць тому +6

      I agree, and that is exactly what Peter A Bell is trying to do with his NEW SCOTLANG PARTY, not a political party, a member led party for one purpose INDEPENDENCE via a Scottish UDI..

    • @Puffball-ll1ly
      @Puffball-ll1ly Місяць тому

      @mmcc5846 haha you have Unionists on the brain

    • @barrheadboy1684
      @barrheadboy1684 Місяць тому +1

      Hes not wrong though!​@Puffball-ll1ly

    • @Puffball-ll1ly
      @Puffball-ll1ly Місяць тому

      @barrheadboy1684 what do you imagine of Scotland as an independent nation? A socialist Republic?

  • @ronaldmccranor87
    @ronaldmccranor87 Місяць тому +4

    waiting here in the sunny Western Isles. Hi all

  • @Puffball-ll1ly
    @Puffball-ll1ly Місяць тому +5

    Humza and SnP plan is to replace the Scottish people 😮

  • @jamesconnolly3827
    @jamesconnolly3827 Місяць тому +3

    Hi troops 👋 are we all well today 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @georgeross9834
    @georgeross9834 Місяць тому +2

    Aye lads

  • @zambotv8150
    @zambotv8150 Місяць тому +7

    Brilliant show

  • @jimperston2921
    @jimperston2921 Місяць тому +1

    In keeping with the godfather theme,who brokered the betrayal, who could straddle both worlds who could have had connections in westminster and Scotland..... michael gove. She takes the case to the supreme court then a few months later she all of a sudden resigns.

  • @johnhiggins4470
    @johnhiggins4470 Місяць тому +3

    I haven’t always watched a Scottish Prism, feeling sometimes that, like Scottish politics in general, it was in the doldrums. But today’s show was a cracker, with everyone telling it like it is. There’s plenty of life in the independence movement, of that I am sure. I particularly liked Phil calling out Nicola Sturgeon for the traitor she is.
    One thing that I don’t understand though is why Eva seemed to endorse Michelle Thomson. She’s my MSP , and I have to say that I haven’t been impressed by her. I’m always willing to be proved wrong.

    • @evacomrie-oy7cp
      @evacomrie-oy7cp Місяць тому +4

      I commend Michelle T for her stance and rebellion on GRR and the fact that she spoke at Alex S's event last week. That conduct is exactly what the movement needs. Same with Joanna Cherry. It's easy to criticise from the outside, harder to take a stand against your own party when you believe you're in a minority and likely to be ostracised for it. Thanks for watching, Eva.

    • @johnhiggins4470
      @johnhiggins4470 Місяць тому

      @@evacomrie-oy7cpThanks for the quick response Eva. I understand what you’re saying. Maybe it’s time that Michelle left the SNP. It’s finished anyway, and I don’t think it can be saved now.

    • @evacomrie-oy7cp
      @evacomrie-oy7cp Місяць тому +4

      @@johnhiggins4470 Those of us who want independence because we recognise its immediate and long term permanent benefits are becoming increasingly impatient. A while ago Kenny MacAskill predicted a 'tipping point' and I hope it's almost upon us. It should involve the SNP rededicating itself to independence and taking robust action to create unity, motivating and mobilising the movement. If it doesn't the people will do it anyway and history won't forgive those who had the power to create lasting change and failed to even try. Michael, Joanna, Fergus, Angus B - history will be kind to them, but that's not why they do what they do. Others should watch and learn from them.

    • @johnhiggins4470
      @johnhiggins4470 Місяць тому +1

      @@evacomrie-oy7cp Thanks again Eva.

  • @kencoutts2051
    @kencoutts2051 Місяць тому +4

    How to get the unionist cabal out of our parliament

  • @NellLowe-ev4bv
    @NellLowe-ev4bv Місяць тому +8

    Great show. should be compulsory viewing for all Scots.

  • @kevinkevin-ug9po
    @kevinkevin-ug9po Місяць тому +6

    Why dont we have a show on Scottish resources, Phil can talk about oil and gas..i really think people dont understand the value, because they have been told it is worthless for generations.

    • @lauratierney5379
      @lauratierney5379 Місяць тому +1

      Totally agree. I actually don't have a clue about oil and gas etc.

    • @alexanderferguson2199
      @alexanderferguson2199 Місяць тому +2

      A talk about Scottish territory would also be very interesting.

  • @jamesmason8944
    @jamesmason8944 Місяць тому +1

    The only person who would give Scotland another referendum is ....yes guess who....the very man that the SNP hounded out of Scotland.
    He might not think that Scotland should be independent but if the majority of the nation sincerely wanted a referendum then he would give it.
    Yes that man is Nigel, and in a few years he might be in a position of power to grant that. Irony of irony.

    • @Puffball-ll1ly
      @Puffball-ll1ly Місяць тому +2

      @jamesmason8944 I remember that and was embarrassing to see the rent a mob behaviour

  • @blueskye7962
    @blueskye7962 Місяць тому +5

    No colonisation or commercialisation of our culture dump Highland Cathedral ... what about both sides of the Tweed because ..if we had the majority perspective as was voted for example in Brexit then our support for independence also comes from the likes of Berwick, Liverpool Manchester Bristol and ordinary and switched on Londoners and always has back to the days of industrial revolution. Only the tabloids and shadow militaristic state and the corrupt lobbyists are the right wing disrupters. If we didnt have first past the post the landscape south of the Tweed would be very different policially and those that baulk against the state have been dismantled in the past such as Liverpool, but the people do not bow.Instead they have to suffer the rise of criminality in their communities. Im sure even the English would be relieved to be part of EFTA and would not follow the mainstream bashing of Scotland. Ordinary people just like in America are fed brainwashed lies to make enemies of others.

  • @rippedtorn2310
    @rippedtorn2310 19 днів тому

    Swinney was part of the devolutionists and now they've taken over . Its important that nationalists stay in SNP but also that folk understand the nature of the brit state and its tactics .I fell for Nichola too . Really had faith in her but thats over .

  • @sky37blue
    @sky37blue Місяць тому +2

    Why does Eva keep calling Starmer a socialist?
    He's a neoliberal.

    • @barrheadboy1684
      @barrheadboy1684 Місяць тому +1

      She is being sarcastic!

    • @sky37blue
      @sky37blue Місяць тому

      @@barrheadboy1684 😂😂😂 sorry. In my defense, it was Sunday

    • @sky37blue
      @sky37blue Місяць тому +2

      @@barrheadboy1684 incidentally, I was feeling utterly deflated due to the Tartan Messiah and the way the SNP have ruined things.
      However this labour government are giving me hope that independence is back on the table. It strikes me that they are just going to be worse and worse

  • @jamesjenner8159
    @jamesjenner8159 Місяць тому +3

    Great show as ever but the English are not British.

  • @jamesmorton3266
    @jamesmorton3266 Місяць тому +1

    Can we not create a new SCOTTISH NATION PARTY 2 then when the current SNP proposes 1/2 we have the party there

  • @jamesmason8944
    @jamesmason8944 Місяць тому

    If Reform is true to it's word, their plans will lay the foundations of government that will make the steps to self governance for the Scottish people.
    The way forward will be self evident.
    The clue is in the name. .....They are going to Reform the way our governance works.

    • @barrheadboy1684
      @barrheadboy1684 Місяць тому

      A Tory by any other name is a Tory and like all the other neoliberals from London they will want to hang on to the cash cow that is Scotland

    • @jamesmason8944
      @jamesmason8944 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@barrheadboy1684Nigel isn't a politician. Please please please stop this petty politics nonsense. Listen to what he says, if he is being honest in what he believes in and is saying then he is more radical than any of the SNP.
      Family ...Community ...Country. A country build on these principles will succeed.

  • @annecollins1043
    @annecollins1043 Місяць тому

    Destroyed NHS.

  • @annharding2968
    @annharding2968 Місяць тому +1

    Is she insane!

  • @annharding2968
    @annharding2968 Місяць тому

    Phil....Stuart Bright??? What do you know that we don't?

  • @MARINA4163
    @MARINA4163 Місяць тому

    Why is no one speaking to Saorsa. Don’t you think we need to hear from them?

  • @kevinkevin-ug9po
    @kevinkevin-ug9po Місяць тому

    This is all back to front, it should have been done years ago. Using the election for Indi now is not going to have the same impact as 5 yrs ago.

    • @barrheadboy1684
      @barrheadboy1684 Місяць тому

      Sadly true and it was exactly what we were saying back in 2021

  • @sugoitom
    @sugoitom Місяць тому +1

    If you are paying tax and contributing to the economy and country you should have the right to vote but after 5 years

  • @annecollins1043
    @annecollins1043 Місяць тому

    Muppets! 😂

  • @sugoitom
    @sugoitom Місяць тому

    That is a load of nonsense look at uk reform they got 7% of Scotland vote and it’s a new party same as ukip new party it doesn’t take long

    • @barrheadboy1684
      @barrheadboy1684 Місяць тому +1

      It helps if you have the BBC and the corrupt press promoting you 24x7 and never criticising you and your party leader is treated like a National Treasure and he is given almost daily exposure by the national broadcaster

  • @jamesmason8944
    @jamesmason8944 Місяць тому +1

    Reform is going to throw a lifeline to all those people who voted for the SNP, and are now floundering in the stormy waters of our current parties.

    • @jamesmason8944
      @jamesmason8944 Місяць тому

      @MikeyC-um8fm Yip, Nigel is that much of a libertarian, if there was a genuine overwhelming wish from the people of Scotland, not just the diehard nationalists, for a independence referendum, he is the man who would allow it.
      He has said he would not stand in their way, but does believe in the union.
      The irony of a man hounded out of Scotland, might well, in a few years time have the power to grant a section 30.
      However the clue is in the name Reform.......He is going to try and radically change the way we are governed.
      If he succeeds the wind will be taken out of the independence sails.

  • @alsoascot02
    @alsoascot02 Місяць тому

    The reason why Alba has not prospered is because it has no appeal, it is /was a rehash of the SNP that developed in the earky 2000's..
    A fundamental problem being that it offered nothing new and as far as I can see it has no political breadth.
    The most surprising thing I find is how similar the rhetoric is in here to Unionist sites.
    If you run everything through a preset prism, you will always get the same skewed conclusions.
    Throwing about the word traitor is not helpful especially when calling for Unity. Simething kind of acknowledged at the end. Honesty should indeed an expectation in our politicos but that wint happen until we let them be.
    And did I hear that Unionist "Masters" forced the SNP to buy into the ACRONYM pish? Ffs really?
    Also I lived outside Scotland for 15 years and outside the UK for 5 years, during those times while I still believed in Scottish Independence I choose not to comment on the issue.
    But I live here now and the main thing for me about Scotland's future, whatever it is, is that it needs to be decided by folk who live in Scotland.
    That is the primary reason for Independence or it has no purpose.
    The biggest problem for the Scottish Independence movement is that to many in Scotland expect political parties and politicians to deliver it. Like mich elsevin their lives they don't want to take any responsibility for it themselves.
    Ffs that SNP were SLAB 2 was apparent well before 2014. And yes the SNP needs to be rebuilt but much more important is to destroy the ability of that new party structure to be high jacked by single issue types especially not former Palestinian scarf wearing empty headed tubes, and folk with fringe believes outside the remit or ordinary punters trying to make ends meet.
    The next Holyrood elections will be interesting only in how folk likely disillusioned by the reality of Starmers Governance choose to vote. I predict Reform will make a break through in Scotland. Not a postive thing for me but not unlikely.
    Fact is to many politicos in Scoyland (and the wider UK) of all shades, are all products of the system that selects them.
    A system where actual strength of believe in anything at all, is not required, only the ability to stick your nose up the right arse.
    And all this talk about future neutrality etc is also ridiculous imo.
    I am Nationalist to my core and I favour a Scandinavian model for a future Scotland, including NATO membership, national service and a proper functioning military. Does that make me a traitor?
    Unity is call often heard from the left who also often seem to fundamentally fail to understand that unity requires political breadth and compromise.
    The Spanish Civil war was mentioned read a little of its history and you quickly learn Franco's victory was achieved not just because of better external support but also because of deep divisions in the Republican cause.

    • @barrheadboy1684
      @barrheadboy1684 Місяць тому +1

      An SNP loyalist highlighting the reason the party finds itself hurtling towards oblivion, it's everybody else's fault. There are no Alba members on this panel however, the default position for every SNP loyalist is to blame them for your own ineptitude

    • @alsoascot02
      @alsoascot02 Місяць тому

      @@barrheadboy1684 an SNP loyalist? Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
      Did you read what was written?