Throwing Axes make dealing with AI easier then ever before. Are you joining the club? If you want to support me: ua-cam.com/channels/7ueO3rJYGmt-Gg1C6f_T3Q.htmljoin Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:29 - Why Throwing Axes? 00:50 - PvE Effectivity 02:10 - Boss Effectivity 03:28 - Concertina Effectivity 03:53 - Assailant Trait 04:42 - TLDR Recap 05:19 - PvP Effectivity 07:10 - Bonus Clips 08:06 - Outro
I feel like I've killed them before with one throw not even aiming for the head really. Two is max. Light the shadow event trained me in the way of the axe lol
That kill at 6:08 shows why throwing axes are excellent for PvP, because it changes the peek timing. It's basically a bullet that's flying while you are already in cover.
Yeah, that's the main thing that puts me off of it is the delay of throwing them. Sure you can use it that way but it's tough if you don't know exactly where they are.
Started using it with calling bird skin when I got it, and oneshotting all the AI is so nice. Only problem is getting stuck under the body of AI, and you need to get it when the ragdoll despawns.
I find your tool kit to be the best tool kit in the game in my opinion. The one annoying thing with the throwing axes is they're constantly falling out of the world for me. I kill a grunt and they fall upside down, and I can't even pick the throwing axe up until their body despawns, and that's if it hasn't fallen under the map which I can't tell until then...
Tip: When you charge the melee attack, the arms cover part of your head and your torso, it means that you can run crazy to your opponents and if they try to headshot you they will probably fail and hit you in the arms instead of the head providing you time enough to close the gap between and kill them face to face. It sounds crazy but it works sometimes what makes it OP
Something I've noticed which your clips give a great example for: the throwing axes become much stronger if you have the high ground. Don't need to worry too much about the arc and their hitbox is lined up for easy one shots.
“Improved everything.” Rachta is so humble. Literally the best in the world at the game is talking about improving. You can’t improve on perfection dude. Keep up the amazing work.
They need a mild buff in the stamina consumption area. Like the fact you can swing a full sized ax or bomblance more than just some hatchets is abit silly. Even one or two extra swings and they’d be perfect. Though getting a thrown kill on an enemy hunter is always a *chefs kiss*
I'm super glad you highlighted their efficacy in PvE. They're probably the strongest PvE tool in the game next to the knuckle knife. They 1 tap armored and hives. I'm pretty sure they can 1 tap concertina armored as well. I still feel like I learned a lot, here. Great video! Too bad it still takes 1k exp with the worst weapon in the game to unlock it
@@dakotabarrett8 it's not better than a bomb lance. Or, you know, a shotgun. Let's compare apples to apples here: op clearly said "the strongest PvE tool". Tool, not weapon. Why would you involve the combat axe in that discussion
I use the throwing axes as my main melee tool after getting packmule and running double stamina shots. the throwing axes take tons of stamina, but with double stam theyre very powerful
The cool thing about the throwing axes is that u should be able to one hit (heavy meele) hunters to the chest, when u have the perk. The base dmg on heavy meele is 142. Let's assume the perks ads +8 dmg or more ;)
I always rock tomahawks, more now that they are cheaper than throwing knives. I think tomahawk was 60 dollars when they were introduced. Now at 30 there's almost no reason to use knives
40 dollar knifes (6 of them) vs 30 dollar axes (2 of them). I like axes but I think knifes have more value. - You can literally do everything he did here with knifes except kill a full hp player with one throw to the chest. - Plus you can use knifes to kill hives on roofs without running up to pick them up again because you have more of them. - You can use knifes to kill dog/chicken cages and not run inside again to pick them up because you are not limited to 2 - You can throw a knife into a zombie chest and pull it out and it dies, you need 2 knifes for an armored this way.
There are two things I don't like about knuckle knife. It isn't an edge weapon so you cannot use it to cut wire. The other is the window to not stab with it is tiny. I have to be very deliberate when punching immolaters because I have found it to be very easy accidentally stab one with the knuckle knife.
@@RachtaZ the throwing axes do solve that issue. I am mostly grumbling that it seemed like everyone is exclusively using the knuckle knife. I believe I get why. You have a blunt and piercing damage source from one slot. I have just found the lack of a blade weapons, solved by the throwing axe, didn't seem worth it.
I, honestly, just take throwing axes as my main melee tool, too. I don't often find myself rushing people with melee unless I have a bayonet or something, anyway, so the jank these thing have with trying to hit hunters doesn't often come into play. Another thing to not is if you do run out of melee stam fighting dogs, the light attack will still one shot them to the head. I'm, honestly, surprised throwing axes aren't meta.
When the event started, I used exactly this loadout and one guy from Discord laughed at me for using it, saying having both knuckle knife and throwing axe is stupid. Well he just didn't understand. Now you are even making a video about it.
To this day i still dont understand why the tomahawk and throwing knives in gunslinger mode dont work like the bomblance... left click melee right click aim and right click + left click = aim and throw.... i hate that
Did you know that the caldwell chain pistol is the only cheap pistol that doesnt do a chamber spin animation after not reloading to full ? I dont know how practically applicable this fact is.
I much prefer throwing knives because you get more of them and they use less stamina - however the wire clearing is pretty compelling! I wonder how well throwing knives clear wire with assailant
I'd definitely use throwing axes more often if it didn't require using the combat axe to unlock. :D Maybe I need to start giving the combat axe more love too after all.
I mean I assume that's the exact reason they did that. But still I don't like the throwing axes enough to even try to unlock them. If they just made the stamina use a little better, I'd be all for it. Though I am considering giving them another try since they added the removal damage now.
It's really not a lot of XP. One raid with the combat axe and I got it. I killed 2 hunters that raid with it though so you might need to do 2 if you're just killing grunts
maybe someone here can answer this question, im just wondering: how is a hit with the throwing axes metal end guaranteed? when you throw the axe it seems to rotate constantly, i wonder how the developers handled the issue that when you throw an axe ingame, it has to always hit; hitting an enemy with a throwing axes wooden grip would be quite unsatisfying i guess. is the axe that is being thrown actually despawned at the moment of impact and another one spawned in the correct rotation in the hit spot?
throwing knives arent quite as good but im surprised to find how few people know you can quietly kill scrap beak with them super easily ever since the patch that cause pulling knives and arrows out of enemies will hurt them.
Also I'm curious- do you use a mouse button for your 4th tool slot? I use my mouse for consumables, but I haven't got anything but the default buttons for tools.
I've been running throwing knives for a long time now, maybe it's time for a switch. What would you say the benefits of running throwing knives over axes, and vice versa? I feel like the axe hits a lot harder, although its got more of an arc to it.
Knives are slightly cheaper and because there’s more of them you can throw them to kill multiple grunts if you don’t have silent killer for melee without giving away your position. Throwing axes are better in nearly every other way other than that though.
Throwing Knives are more plentiful and have better trajectory. More easily spammed against tough AI and bosses, with better total pull-out dmg via more knives. Knives are more versatile in terms of overall game use (lanterns, distractions, etc), despite lacking any OHK vs anything outside of headshots. Throwing Axes (though only 2-3 total with worse projectile drop) can brute force AI thru body shots (hives, armoreds), leading to faster, stealthier movement in these cases. While overall versatility is reduced, you gain a super effective Armored and concertina wire remover, as well as an emergency OHK vs players. Depends on playstyle and loadout, but both are very effective for their uses.
Main reasons of not using it: *Fat stamina usage. *Hellhounds and armor corpses taking your axes to hell. *Needs unlock which if u insta prestige like myself and dont run around with an axe wont happen. #TeamShootEverythingInstead
I see the uses of this against ai for sure. No question. But in PvP while not bad I feel like there are just better options because you have to lead your opponent a lot to hit which makes it really hard to aim.
I'll use them to quickly break down locked doors if I'm in a bind. Two heavy attacks, two light attacks, then throwing them both will break down a door on a pinch
Throwing Axes make dealing with AI easier then ever before. Are you joining the club?
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:29 - Why Throwing Axes?
00:50 - PvE Effectivity
02:10 - Boss Effectivity
03:28 - Concertina Effectivity
03:53 - Assailant Trait
04:42 - TLDR Recap
05:19 - PvP Effectivity
07:10 - Bonus Clips
08:06 - Outro
How did you comment already two days ago?
Anyway, 7:21 I once had the same thing, I think they aren't shown when more then 500m away
I play on the fever dream that is consoles, ever since light the shadow event I don’t leave home without them. Hands down my favorite tool
i am and axe with nagant p to unlock it is a blast haha prestiging suck :(
"If you don’t miss" my entire Hunt Showdown experience in one phrase
Same! If I didn't miss I would be awesome at this game.
Literally I'd be better than Rachta if I could shoot 🤣🤣🤣
Been using them a little while; something to note is that concertina armored CAN be killed with one throw, you just have to hit them in the head.
The upper back works too!
@@cheekyminx3619 A concertina armored will tank a throwing axe to the chest, unlike the regular armored. You need a headshot to kill them.
I feel like I've killed them before with one throw not even aiming for the head really. Two is max. Light the shadow event trained me in the way of the axe lol
@@cheekyminx3619 Incorrect.
That kill at 6:08 shows why throwing axes are excellent for PvP, because it changes the peek timing. It's basically a bullet that's flying while you are already in cover.
Yeah, that's the main thing that puts me off of it is the delay of throwing them. Sure you can use it that way but it's tough if you don't know exactly where they are.
@@blasianking4827 but if u dnt know where they are then no weapon would be effective unless its some area damage weapon.
Running these with explosive crossbow leads to crazy peek mind games
@@markyelwell995 Yes but I imagine it's easier to quickly aim with a regular gun than it is with the axe.
You can do that with the Winfield lol
Started using it with calling bird skin when I got it, and oneshotting all the AI is so nice. Only problem is getting stuck under the body of AI, and you need to get it when the ragdoll despawns.
Unfortunately because horses don't despawn some can be list under the map if you hit them in the head and lie down when they die
Because of that i stopped using them, it happens too often
@@django8451 You have to hit the horses in the body with the axe
@@yagnenttv lowbob. Before last update throwing axes wouldn't oneshot horse if you hit it in the body.
@@django8451
True, atleast now it is an option
I find your tool kit to be the best tool kit in the game in my opinion. The one annoying thing with the throwing axes is they're constantly falling out of the world for me. I kill a grunt and they fall upside down, and I can't even pick the throwing axe up until their body despawns, and that's if it hasn't fallen under the map which I can't tell until then...
Yeah wish they would fix them to be able to picked up as easily as the throwing knives.
They fall through the ground if I don't get to the body immediately : / Feels like that at least
Tip:
When you charge the melee attack, the arms cover part of your head and your torso, it means that you can run crazy to your opponents and if they try to headshot you they will probably fail and hit you in the arms instead of the head providing you time enough to close the gap between and kill them face to face.
It sounds crazy but it works sometimes what makes it OP
Omg, that's good to know.
actually, unless theyre using a bow/crossbow, the shot will go through the arm, hitting the head anyway.
The biggest weakness of the axes is losing them to bugs & clipping :(
Something I've noticed which your clips give a great example for: the throwing axes become much stronger if you have the high ground. Don't need to worry too much about the arc and their hitbox is lined up for easy one shots.
This is the toolsetup I considered the best in the game, glad to see that rachtaz validation 😎
same lol
1:56 "Shines the most" and stares into the sun, comedic genius right there.
“Improved everything.” Rachta is so humble. Literally the best in the world at the game is talking about improving. You can’t improve on perfection dude. Keep up the amazing work.
I like them with the Silent Nagant. Works well to remove all AI extremely quickly and quietly.
Tho the melee stamina drain is a little too intense imo
Correction - Concertina armored dies to 1 headshot as well, just not to body damage
They need a mild buff in the stamina consumption area. Like the fact you can swing a full sized ax or bomblance more than just some hatchets is abit silly. Even one or two extra swings and they’d be perfect.
Though getting a thrown kill on an enemy hunter is always a *chefs kiss*
The retrieval damage made them way more viable against weaker AI.
I still like throwing knives for killing meatheads though.
Particularly awesome axe toss after the nitro shots!
I'm super glad you highlighted their efficacy in PvE. They're probably the strongest PvE tool in the game next to the knuckle knife.
They 1 tap armored and hives. I'm pretty sure they can 1 tap concertina armored as well.
I still feel like I learned a lot, here. Great video!
Too bad it still takes 1k exp with the worst weapon in the game to unlock it
Take that back. Axe is solid bang for your buck XD Even if you lose, you're just down $5 and a hunter, just run free guys.
@@dakotabarrett8 keyword: tool. Axe is in the weapon slot, where it has much tougher competition
@@lred1383 I would argue it's better than a machete.
@@dakotabarrett8 it's not better than a bomb lance. Or, you know, a shotgun. Let's compare apples to apples here: op clearly said "the strongest PvE tool". Tool, not weapon. Why would you involve the combat axe in that discussion
@@lred1383 "Too bad it still takes 1k exp with the worst weapon in the game to unlock it "
I’ve been using the throwing axe since the light in the shadow event. Pair it with a stam shot. You can kill anything in the bayou
I use the throwing axes as my main melee tool after getting packmule and running double stamina shots. the throwing axes take tons of stamina, but with double stam theyre very powerful
"Actually very good video, actually makes sense." - RachtaZ circa 2022
The cool thing about the throwing axes is that u should be able to one hit (heavy meele) hunters to the chest, when u have the perk.
The base dmg on heavy meele is 142. Let's assume the perks ads +8 dmg or more ;)
we know that the other perk added in LtS, for the bow, is 10% (was 25%) so its reasonable to assume Assailant is at least matching that, yeah
I've been playing it since it came out in the event and instantly become part of my standard build. I'm happy that it finally gets recognition
Today im gonna show you how to plug in a display port cable
Throwing axes are my new fourth tool as well; became my favorite tool over the knuckle knife very quickly
I always rock tomahawks, more now that they are cheaper than throwing knives. I think tomahawk was 60 dollars when they were introduced. Now at 30 there's almost no reason to use knives
40 dollar knifes (6 of them) vs 30 dollar axes (2 of them).
I like axes but I think knifes have more value.
- You can literally do everything he did here with knifes except kill a full hp player with one throw to the chest.
- Plus you can use knifes to kill hives on roofs without running up to pick them up again because you have more of them.
- You can use knifes to kill dog/chicken cages and not run inside again to pick them up because you are not limited to 2
- You can throw a knife into a zombie chest and pull it out and it dies, you need 2 knifes for an armored this way.
@@johannesschmitz6370 that's why I said "almost" ;)
Yeah knives rock dude
"You didn't see it man, oh my gawd"haha
Been playing it since it got reduced to 30$, now i can't imagine going to the match without it.
Nice, this is my exact tool setup, just with axes and chokes swapped places. Unless I'm solo, then I use concertina trip wire instead of chokes.
when i want to play double Traps, i use the throwing Axes as my Melee Tool + Medkit.
works
There are two things I don't like about knuckle knife. It isn't an edge weapon so you cannot use it to cut wire. The other is the window to not stab with it is tiny. I have to be very deliberate when punching immolaters because I have found it to be very easy accidentally stab one with the knuckle knife.
Whats the problem with not cutting wire if you have throwing axes?
@@RachtaZ the throwing axes do solve that issue. I am mostly grumbling that it seemed like everyone is exclusively using the knuckle knife.
I believe I get why. You have a blunt and piercing damage source from one slot. I have just found the lack of a blade weapons, solved by the throwing axe, didn't seem worth it.
@@XShrike0 Try cutting concertina with normal knife. It feels useless. everyone rather just destroy it by shooting on their body
That last clip is tooo good hahahahaha
Yes they are great. The downside is they still vanish too often with the killed AI.
Many tips very wow.
Hey man, love your videos! What is the outro music you use?
I actually just started using them q couple days ago and if it wasn't for my constant prestiging then they'd definitely be a staple in my loadouts
You can kill concertina armored with one shot if you score a headshot
Love the throwing axes. Been using them since say 1 they came out. Completely replaced throwing knives
The real one cool thing of axes that you can cancel swap animation by throwing animation. With the knives you cannot.
I have been used the the throwing axes since the light the shadow event and they have become a permanent part of my loadouts
Was exited for this video since you talked about it on stream.
Meathead when rachta enters the liar: "why am I hearing boss music? Why am I hearing anything at all?!"
i love how you lured that poor soul into the trap
Just started this game this week and it’s been way too fun
ahh thank you so much your info is amazing
I, honestly, just take throwing axes as my main melee tool, too. I don't often find myself rushing people with melee unless I have a bayonet or something, anyway, so the jank these thing have with trying to hit hunters doesn't often come into play. Another thing to not is if you do run out of melee stam fighting dogs, the light attack will still one shot them to the head. I'm, honestly, surprised throwing axes aren't meta.
I'm going to give them another try I didn't have much luck with them but after that video I feel confident.
When the event started, I used exactly this loadout and one guy from Discord laughed at me for using it, saying having both knuckle knife and throwing axe is stupid. Well he just didn't understand. Now you are even making a video about it.
Brother, your channel is simply Amazing !! Enjoying all your videos, keep the good job and thank u :))
To this day i still dont understand why the tomahawk and throwing knives in gunslinger mode dont work like the bomblance... left click melee right click aim and right click + left click = aim and throw.... i hate that
I feel like if you have assailant and frontiersman there's no reason to bring a regular knife
Did you know that the caldwell chain pistol is the only cheap pistol that doesnt do a chamber spin animation after not reloading to full ? I dont know how practically applicable this fact is.
YES! Throwing axe validation! The only thing I need now are more throwing axe skins!
I much prefer throwing knives because you get more of them and they use less stamina - however the wire clearing is pretty compelling! I wonder how well throwing knives clear wire with assailant
I’d assume terribly as the animation is a ‘stab’ with assailant, so expect it’s pierce damage.
@@jamesbiggs6216 the light attack still works as well as thrown knives
The perk basically turns throwing knives into reg knives in terms of melee. So 2 light swings to break any wire
"Do you see it?" ... xD
Excellent educational Video!
great video rachta
last clip is gold
You can even kill concertina armored in one hit if you headshot. Just wait for him to raise his arm to attack you
I'm glad to see that my comment on the last pool of melee weapons was heard by the mighty Rachta 😌
Great insight! But honestly the throwing axe takes too much stamina for casual use in my opinion. I wish it was more efficient with stamina.
Thats all nice and stuff but you need to hit something first which is an ability i lack :D But great video man i appreciate your content!
You know what's really funny is I've been using it almost every game now the kills concertina armored instantly
"харош, бро" 5:40
Also with assailant I believe it becomes a one hit kill with melee
I mix the throwing axes with decoy fusees for my variable tool slot
ahshasahshas 'the lesson of Hunt: Showdown - Do you see it?'
I'd definitely use throwing axes more often if it didn't require using the combat axe to unlock. :D
Maybe I need to start giving the combat axe more love too after all.
I mean I assume that's the exact reason they did that. But still I don't like the throwing axes enough to even try to unlock them. If they just made the stamina use a little better, I'd be all for it.
Though I am considering giving them another try since they added the removal damage now.
It's really not a lot of XP. One raid with the combat axe and I got it. I killed 2 hunters that raid with it though so you might need to do 2 if you're just killing grunts
only problem with them is that you will lose them consequently and wont be able to pick em up due to some bullshit
bladeseer
Even after this and the other video about melee weapons, I still can’t drop my heavy knife
They do such great melee damage against players in pvp too, more than the heavy knife.
Good video as always :) thanks
I just have one question. How do you get rid of caged dogs/chickens with this tool kit?
maybe someone here can answer this question, im just wondering: how is a hit with the throwing axes metal end guaranteed? when you throw the axe it seems to rotate constantly, i wonder how the developers handled the issue that when you throw an axe ingame, it has to always hit; hitting an enemy with a throwing axes wooden grip would be quite unsatisfying i guess. is the axe that is being thrown actually despawned at the moment of impact and another one spawned in the correct rotation in the hit spot?
Bro lol you overthinking it. They just make any part of the axe does the same damage no matter what part hits
do you recommend the yellow drug using this ? at least 1?
Nice I'll have to give um a go
that last clip omg hahahahahahaha
Ur my favorite hunt creator
throwing knives arent quite as good but im surprised to find how few people know you can quietly kill scrap beak with them super easily ever since the patch that cause pulling knives and arrows out of enemies will hurt them.
Normal knife or Knuckle Knife (which is the best one) works for killing Scrapbeak as well :)
Also I'm curious- do you use a mouse button for your 4th tool slot? I use my mouse for consumables, but I haven't got anything but the default buttons for tools.
No I just press the number
Have been using them for a while, the grind to get them tho is SO annoying, pls buff combat axe
I'm curious if the light swing is as good at removing concertina as heavy swing with assailant
I've been running throwing knives for a long time now, maybe it's time for a switch. What would you say the benefits of running throwing knives over axes, and vice versa? I feel like the axe hits a lot harder, although its got more of an arc to it.
The benefit is that the throwing axe melee is extremely and exponentially useful (and you can still throw it)
Knives are slightly cheaper and because there’s more of them you can throw them to kill multiple grunts if you don’t have silent killer for melee without giving away your position.
Throwing axes are better in nearly every other way other than that though.
Throwing Knives are more plentiful and have better trajectory. More easily spammed against tough AI and bosses, with better total pull-out dmg via more knives. Knives are more versatile in terms of overall game use (lanterns, distractions, etc), despite lacking any OHK vs anything outside of headshots.
Throwing Axes (though only 2-3 total with worse projectile drop) can brute force AI thru body shots (hives, armoreds), leading to faster, stealthier movement in these cases. While overall versatility is reduced, you gain a super effective Armored and concertina wire remover, as well as an emergency OHK vs players.
Depends on playstyle and loadout, but both are very effective for their uses.
thx
yo would love to play with yousometimes to improve and get some tipps
1 throwing axe vs 3 shotgon meat shots vs armored.....Kinda sus
didnt even know the pull out does dmg as well
I’m fairly new to the game (just started last week). Have I any chance to get the throwing axes, Or it was only an event reward?
You can get them, but not the skins, those are locked behind events
how can I not throw them, but attack with them like a knife ??
"Do you see it?"
Yes, enemies that disappear after shooting them once has happened to me on several occasions now. Can anyone explain why that happens ? Is it a cheat?
Main reasons of not using it:
*Fat stamina usage.
*Hellhounds and armor corpses taking your axes to hell.
*Needs unlock which if u insta prestige like myself and dont run around with an axe wont happen.
#TeamShootEverythingInstead
Imagine needing to unlock throwing axes
This post was made by the "been at the event" gang
One hitting grunts with the tomahawk and out of stamina is without the trait that gives more damage to melee with throwing knives and tomahawk?
Nvm I kept watching and this was answered for me. Leaving comment for that sweet sweet UA-cam algorithm
Sadly I didn't complete the throwing axe event so yuh.
I see the uses of this against ai for sure. No question. But in PvP while not bad I feel like there are just better options because you have to lead your opponent a lot to hit which makes it really hard to aim.
I'll use them to quickly break down locked doors if I'm in a bind. Two heavy attacks, two light attacks, then throwing them both will break down a door on a pinch
liked and commented boosted the algorythm
Throwing axes all day long. Love em
But how do I get them? In Arsenal it says its an event item. Cant I get it right now?
There is no reason to not use the throwable axe if you are addicted to stamina shot, it’s way better than others if you have infinite stamina.