I was thinking the same thing. You're not gonna find a female that later started identifying as a man come out and destroy male competition. I wonder why?🤔🤔🤔🤔
I noticed that too. I think when transgender men compete and qualify in mens sports, it’s seen as a victory for women. But when transgender women compete it’s seen more often than not, as an unfair advantage. Either way, this isn’t gonna be solved easily
@@jayden4021 The problem analogizing a female-to-male trans-gendered athlete is that they bring no biological advantages to the table. If Moiser beat the boys, it wasn't Moiser's biology that beat them.
Abel Leba okay now you are literally disrespecting the transgender athletes. It is obviously true that they shouldnt be able to compete in womens field, but they are trans women which makes them woman
@@richardlawson9723 No.....no it doesn't. And if you really say that are female then why shouldn't they compete on the female team? Are you saying that they are not really female?....yes...yes you are.
It's only complicated for them because they are forced by their own ideology to not discriminate against LGBTQ or women in any way. It's a double-edged sword for them. And I personally LOVE their discomfort.
It's pretty obvious where the average person stands on this - there are virtually NO comments in support of this and none of my friends in liberal Boston agree with this. This is purely about being PC and being afraid to hurt feelings and the consequences in today's cancel and "woke" culture... these news anchors probably feel the same way but are afraid of backlask from social media and the 3% that get angry... and losing their jobs
nothing complicate, nothing tricky, those journalists only need balls to admit the obvious truth about this whole mess on television but they don't have any, trans people should consider giving it to them as they don't have a use for it anymore.
If a transgender woman start transitioning and taking hormones at a very young age even before puberty what will happen?Dose she still have some physical stronger than biological female?
@@chenchen3258 I don't think that there are enough studies to answer your question. I could guess that a boy who starts hormone therapy before puberty, and does not go through it (let's say 7-9 years ald), would probably not have an advantage, or would have a much smaller one. But it's not the case of any of these transgender female athletes. Anyway, put a boy on hormones at that young age would be totally crazy.
Jerry B The left: gender is a non binary construct Me: by that logic transgender men should be able to compete in women sports If you disagree your transphobic/sexist #equally
It's not dress up it's what makes them comfortable having the hormones or whatever of a male and and your right they still should be in the men's division and if they can't handle being a male Olympic athlete then just join a male ametuer team or something or Mabey semi pro but don't piss on others like that
@@joshuam7818 bull there is no exact definition and no exact definition of man or women either so fix that problem first and how can we base laws on sexual acts or sexual orientation anyways I bet there are zero definitions of that also so everyone is everything i bet
I wanna see if a trans male goes into the ring w say a good male boxer would this prove some theory about being built differently when a mike Tysons throws the hammer down
@@benjaminrussell6873 Yup, it's totally not fair, when a Trans Female fights a bunch of girls in the UFC, what type bs is that!? It's a man beating up a girl, tf?
Nobody said they cannot run with the boys, women tennis players often fancy themselves as competitive against men, women golfers did the same. They chose not to run against men...
But they are transgender women and if your brain doesn't have enough power to understand that means they are WOMEN. They shouldn't have to compete with men idiot.
@@guiguijol Fallon Fox was in MMA. Alot of people who don't follow MMA just say UFC. You obviously know what they were saying, why act confused? If someone says "oh they are a WWE wrestler" but the person was in AEW, everyone knows what they mean
@@madamefeast4824 because I m a martial arts lover since more than 30 years. And I don’t like ufc. So yes that makes a difference. The mistake you talk about makes me cringe.
jasona9 The left: gender is a non binary construct Me: by that logic transgender men should be able to compete in women sports If you disagree your transphobic/sexist #equally
@XFactor "The Left" is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. The fact is that there are ONLY two sexes, and there are binary, immutable and biological differences between the two.
In a world where everybody is treated the same, there should not even be men or women sports, everybody should compete together. But since there is women sports and it created a forum where there is fair competition, maybe it's time to create a third category for this purpose.
Women voted for this. Stop voting democrat and this nonsense goes away. This is the politics now with one party jumping on one side of every controversy. If you want to save women's sports, you have to also support the 2nd Amendment. This is weird but welcome to the stupidity of American politics.
Not too long ago girls were denied access (and in some places still are), to participate in sports because of men,....now its the same thing again but with a twist?
@@cosmic_rain9417 i probably didn't pay close enough 'attention' to what the OP is saying.. he's right.. you're right.. and bio boys should NOT be allowed to compete against girls.
Destination mobileone there are consequences though. We have a reporter saying she had proof on Clinton’s and crown, people are waking up. Yes we may not see the exact justice we wish, but something is coming of it.
It makes me feel bad for them. Years of hormone treatments and surgeries and 99.9 percent of people look at them and say: Huh, that's weird. A dude in a dress.
Ok, I’m a “liberal” but this is insane. I am 100 percent an ally for everyone’s rights, but we are really going too far with constantly making sure we don’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Life is tough. We aren’t doing anyone any favors by (for example) removing the female symbol on tampons because we don’t want to hurt the feelings of transgender men who still menstruate.
These mf is stupid. Im sorry that most men can't take responsibility as A MAN. I will be dammed if a transgender dude try to fight my daughter cus if he's mad then he's mad its no holding back.
JoannaMichelleHeath The left: gender is a non binary construct Me: by that logic transgender men should be able to compete in women sports If you disagree your transphobic/sexist #equally
This girl has every right to be upset, this is ridiculous. It's similar to older kids competing against younger pre pubic kids, it's genetically unfair
Oh great... But I should make a small note of caution that the deck is probably stacked in favor of the LGBT persuasion, as we have seen the last 20 or so years. It is the agenda after all...
Well, when women and girls get out of the Boy Scouts and every other male space then we can talk about removing trans men from women's sports. Until you do that, you're just a hypocrite. Oh and _blacks_ are physically superior to whites so they should be segregated too. What's that? OH you say that's not the same?!? HOW? You have 2 situation with both _clearly_ genetically physically superior groups of people taking advantage of a situation. *Can't wait to see you try to worm your way out of this one!* LOL!!!
@@vegtamvanderveg sounds good in theory but I doubt you'd find the chance to get a sponsor that would actively deny transgenders into it. Not in this climate anyway.
As soon as you make it, transgenders will fight to join it, even though they have the public track team, they will try just to fight against it. Why? Because when itsvall transgendeds racing each other than it will be harder and they might have to put in work to win. I promise if thevschool made an all transgender team they would fight against that to and refuse to join it.
This garbage is going to have to be legislated against and to fraudulently compete to be a crime. Queer theory nonsense has no business being in sports or anything else in our society. It is ruinous.
@@ValleyoftheRogue OH! Wooo a little hot under the collar there, Missy! Where were you when girls were busy infiltrating and destroying *the Boy Scouts* one of the last male spaces left for boys? Mmm? And Title IX shutting down Chemistry classes and/or any classes for years now because it's all too hard for girls because no girls are smart enough? Where was your 'outrage' then, HYPOCRITE?
@@ValleyoftheRogue Sorry to break the very bad news to you and all females who want to play sports... *your status is **_far_** below that of trans men on the victim totem pole of misery and stupidity that YOU and feminism created in the first place! HAHAHA!* Now you're having your own freakish and perverse social engineering and Marxist ideologies based on LIES like 'eh, gender is a social construct' backfire on you and your own SHIT shoved back down your own throats! HOW'S IT TASTE?!? HAHAHAHAHA!!!! I LOVE THIS!! FINALLY JUSTICE. AIN'T KARMA A B?
@@ValleyoftheRogue And in the words of our previous 'president,' Ovomit, this is a "teachable moment" for all young girls to learn an important lesson, Feminism/Marxism/Liberalism, *all* of it is evil and _perversity_ and it is linear and needs to feed on and destroy society ever more and more with even MORE outrageous insanity and perversion and when you play with fire you get burned! Very important lesson for girls about the perversity and lies of feminism, 100% FRAUD And this new generation of girls will learn that they don't belong in sports anyway, but *in the kitchen raising children like nature designed you to, it's why nature designed women to be vastly physically AND mentally inferior to men* And I can't wait to help a new generation of females learn basic human traits again- it's going to take decades, but we'll get there!
After a boy has gone thru puberty, it doesn't matter if you decrease their testosterone or even do transition surgery, their bodies have already developed past the level of most females.
Selina is just not fast enough. Plain and simple. There should not be male and female segregation to begin with. We should just have one league for everybody - no discrimination.
@Joel Twinem I don't have a problem with having multiple leagues based on skill and calibre. Nothing wrong with having leagues A, B, C,.... What I have a problem with is when we create leagues based on gender because you are excluding people simply based on their gender. Last time I checked, people don't get to choose what gender they are - just like your skin colour. The problem with an all women's league is that we are literally saying men are stronger than women and hence feeding into that BS stereotype.
@Joel Twinem But hey if you hate our country so much and you want to live by gender segregation, then you are free to move to Saudi Arabia or Brunei and enjoy all the Sharia horseshit you want. No Islam in America! Keep America Great! Trump 2020!
@Joel Twinem But what about creating a league specifically for white people. Afterall, black are naturally much stronger and faster. As it is no white man stands a chance at winning the 100 m race at the Olympics. But of course, we cannot have a white only league because that would racist. So what is the difference here?
@Joel Twinem It absolutely is sexist, by definition, to seperate men and women into 2 categories. But then again, biology itself is very sexist so I guess it's hard to get around that.
Consider this, because this is a real possibility: The two transgenders compete against women who haven't benefited from 2k+ years of evolution from male genetics. At the end of high school, they each win athletic scholarships, and deny the biological women those scholarships. On graduation day, they decide, "you know what, being a women sucks. I'm going back to identifying as a male, except now I have scholarships". Since "being a women" is now defined as a state of mind, rather than based on genetic makeup, it allows people the option to change their minds about how they identify. These videos show how this can be unfair to biological women. I think another important mention is that it doesn't work both ways. A transgender male (biological women) would still be disadvantaged in either sports teams (mens and womens).
I think we are a long way off from these dudes getting recruited to run on a womans collegiate team. High schools care about peoples feelings more than colleges and professional sports.
According to Williams Institute in 2016, only 0.6% of the United States population is transgender. that's not enough people to create their own division. Also, people don't transition genders just to be segregated. This is just illogical...
CT and NY judges would not rule so this is headed to the Supreme Court. Other countries are now following the actual science and my hopes is that America isn’t far behind.
Feb 2021. Well I guess that would have to be Joe Biden who does and says that...... and actually the democrats are the ones to promote this insanity re the genders.
There's all kinds of "unfair" discrimination that occurs. My friend in high school couldn't play basketball because he had asthma. He was good at basketball, but he couldn't pass the physical. There was a kid with cerebral palsy... what do you think happens if he even showed up on the field to TRY OUT for football? Look... if you're transgender, it's as simple as this... you no longer fit perfectly into male or female athletics, so you won't be allowed to compete in either category. If that means you make a transgender category... fine. If that means you make TWO transgender categories (m/f and f/m) that's also fine. If you want to practice with the team without competing... fine... but YOU made this life-altering decision. You don't get to alter OTHER PEOPLE'S lives with your decision.
This really needs more exposure. I can't believe this only has just over 26K views in 3 months. My instinct is this is another example of UA-cam pushing down this type of content to keep it hidden.
Have transgendered athletes compete against transgendered athletes. There. Now it's fair. I just fixed it for you and I won't charge you a damn thing. You're welcome.
This is literally two guys with long hair in dresses competing at girls sports. Willing to bet these two guys were mediocre track runners when they competed with men in a fair competition.
Blame feminism. Title nine was pushed into place by second wave in 1972, since then it has been cheating men and boys by the thousands but now a few girls get hurt by it and it's unfair and boys cheating girls.
Make a national or regional league for transgender students. Or since gender is a subjective societal construct, have them compete with the boys. Even with hormonal therapy, the male skeletal and muscular structure is still there and it heavily favors the biological males (which is why we have separate male and female competitions). Isn't it funny that we never see biological females competing in boys leagues? Kudos to Selena who is a very strong and principled girl.
There aren't enough of these dudes to have a separate division. I just say there is no inherent right to cheat, and if you try to cheat by claiming you are a female, you go to jail for fraud and get fined.
@@ValleyoftheRogue If you round up all transgendered student from East Coast you can prolly have a decent set of transgendered competitors. Of course, they always have the option of competing against boys, so it's not like they would be the pariah of society, out of options.
So why isn't there separate leagues for the races as well? Are you going to actually sit there and try to convince me that as groups blacks and whites are genetically the same? On average blacks are genetically designed physically superior by nature to be stronger and faster, look what they've done to football and basketball, 95% black as a result- why isn't anyone complaining about THAT?
@@jeffbridges5312 We already have boys and girls sports segregation because as a society we came to the conclusion that the physical differences between males and females are too large and would create an unfair advantage over females if we competed together. Physical differences between white and black males are noticeable but not to the point where whites have no chance to compete, otherwise 95% of gold-medalists at the Olympic games would be black. We abandoned racial segregation 50 years ago...feel free to start a whites-only league :)
@@NihilSineDeo09 _Physical differences between white and black males are noticeable but not to the point where whites have no chance to compete_ *Football: 95% Black* *Basketball: 95% Black* *Boxing: All the top winners, all black* *Track: All of the top winners, all black* and blacks clearly dominate in baseball as well they just don't like it as much thus the only reason it isn't 95% black. Blacks dominate every last sport a large percentage of them choose to play And you're so deluded living in your phony PC hallucinogenic bubble that you're going to sit there and try to claim blacks are not _massively_ superior physically to whites. Well, congratulations! _You_ win the 'The Virtue Signalling Coward of the Year Award!' _otherwise 95% of gold-medalists at the Olympic games would be black_ That's stupid. The only reason blacks don't win all of the medals in the Olympics is because the categories are far too varied and blacks don't care many of them such as ice skating and gymnastics and you know it, which is why you used that creepy slight of hand and use the Olympics- you must be a Liberal, that's all Liberals do.. deceive, use half truths, manipulate, try to trick and gas light because you're unethical, lazy, mentally weak and cowards _We abandoned racial segregation 50 years ago_ Lol You're talking about a different _kind_ of segregation, Dummy. More creepy attempts at a slight of hand
If you love track then they shouldn’t have competed in women’s div. they can identify themselves as women but still they should compete in men’s division. ridiculously unfair.
I would pull my daughter out of any female sport as long as this is happening. As should every other girl's parents. Then you would just have a couple guys left competing against themselves.
How is this a complicated issue? If they are biological males run with the males. No one says they cant run, they just shouldnt run with the girls. The transgender athletes are definitely trying to be the victims in this, but they made a choice and sometimes our choices have positive and negative consequences.
The conversation isn’t complicated, its simple. Women should compete against women, and men against men. If States want to explore transgender athletic leagues, and allow people to compete in whatever manner they please; that option is available. But, Connecticut has certainly made a mess of things.
Same applies to the other 18 states. Create an open league or a transgender category within the sport but do not expect support from a parent of an XX child when an XY student wants to join the team.
It sickens me to see legislators, and sports organizations pass laws that are rooted in pseudoscience. This isn’t helping people. Likewise, it isn’t helping communities find common ground. Children losing scholarship, and affirmative opportunities to satisfy the feelings of a small demographic is inflammatory, and wrong. There was a time when legislators attempted to make decisions that were in the best interest of improving our societal fabric, it isn’t about people pleasing.
Watch the body language of the boys. The one in white, watch how he looks into the camera. They know exactly what they’re doing. This is a war on women AGAIN. We will never have our own anything. Hell, we can’t even be proud of being a stay at home mother anymore, that’s raising their family. G-d help us. 😞
As much as I agree that this is unfair to girls like Selina and we need to have more conversation, I don't understand why this comment section is full of bashing transgender people. I am a transgender person myself but I do agree that there are biological differences between men and women and we need more nuance in this debate. As Selina herself says there should be a way for transgender people to compete fairly but not take away the rights of cisgender women and that is the discussion we need to have here. Bashing transgender people for who they are is not helping anyone.
What the real girls should do is all pull out of any sporting events That have trans gender participants. Then they will have to do something about it.
Honestly, if I were a competetive athlete, I would just refuse to compete since I would not have a chance of winning anyway. And obviously, it's not all about winning but, I at least want to have a fair chance.
Its kind of funny how shameless they are and are so proud of winning. From all stories I have seen I don't just mean those two in this video. Almost like they don't even acknowledge how unfair it is to females in the sport.
Weird you never see a trans man ranking against males.
@Lana true, not as many people care
I was thinking the same thing. You're not gonna find a female that later started identifying as a man come out and destroy male competition. I wonder why?🤔🤔🤔🤔
I noticed that too. I think when transgender men compete and qualify in mens sports, it’s seen as a victory for women. But when transgender women compete it’s seen more often than not, as an unfair advantage. Either way, this isn’t gonna be solved easily
Even if a mtf people who have to compete in women's sports, the women still get crushed. Because of the intake of testosterone.
@@jayden4021 The problem analogizing a female-to-male trans-gendered athlete is that they bring no biological advantages to the table. If Moiser beat the boys, it wasn't Moiser's biology that beat them.
The only BRAVE young lady here, is Selina.
“we’re brave enough to keep running” doesn’t make sense at all.
Abel Leba okay now you are literally disrespecting the transgender athletes. It is obviously true that they shouldnt be able to compete in womens field, but they are trans women which makes them woman
@@richardlawson9723 saying you're a woman doesn't magically make you a woman. You cant magically change your gender
The only BRAVE and also the only LADY.
@@richardlawson9723 No.....no it doesn't. And if you really say that are female then why shouldn't they compete on the female team? Are you saying that they are not really female?....yes...yes you are.
They keep saying it's a complicated issue. IT'S NOT COMPLICATED!
It's only complicated for them because they are forced by their own ideology to not discriminate against LGBTQ or women in any way. It's a double-edged sword for them. And I personally LOVE their discomfort.
It's pretty obvious where the average person stands on this - there are virtually NO comments in support of this and none of my friends in liberal Boston agree with this. This is purely about being PC and being afraid to hurt feelings and the consequences in today's cancel and "woke" culture... these news anchors probably feel the same way but are afraid of backlask from social media and the 3% that get angry... and losing their jobs
nothing complicate, nothing tricky, those journalists only need balls to admit the obvious truth about this whole mess on television but they don't have any, trans people should consider giving it to them as they don't have a use for it anymore.
Anti discrimination is what's complicating the issue. I think the schools currently have their hands tied.
@AlbertaStrength Logically, since you actually call them "women" then they should compete against real women. Simple really.
Hormone suppression does not:
1. Lessen the mass of bone structure
2. Make the heart smaller
3. Reduce the number of fast twitch muscle fibers
i agree with first two but i think fast twitch and slow teitch muscles are developed from the type of training
Mr Table nah men will always have more twitch muscle fibers relative to training
Hormones won't even change the shape of your pelvic bones. That's one of the reasons men are faster.
If a transgender woman start transitioning and taking hormones at a very young age even before puberty what will happen?Dose she still have some physical stronger than biological female?
@@chenchen3258 I don't think that there are enough studies to answer your question. I could guess that a boy who starts hormone therapy before puberty, and does not go through it (let's say 7-9 years ald), would probably not have an advantage, or would have a much smaller one. But it's not the case of any of these transgender female athletes. Anyway, put a boy on hormones at that young age would be totally crazy.
This is not fair for Selina...she's been working hard her entire life for the sport and gets sidelined by 2 boys playing dress up for a year...
Jerry B The left: gender is a non binary construct
Me: by that logic transgender men should be able to compete in women sports
If you disagree your transphobic/sexist #equally
@@BurningRubber454
But if they did that, there would be no longer be female sports competitions. *Game over!!*
It's not dress up it's what makes them comfortable having the hormones or whatever of a male and and your right they still should be in the men's division and if they can't handle being a male Olympic athlete then just join a male ametuer team or something or Mabey semi pro but don't piss on others like that
Respect them, its a hate crime to be mean to them
@@joshuam7818 bull there is no exact definition and no exact definition of man or women either so fix that problem first and how can we base laws on sexual acts or sexual orientation anyways I bet there are zero definitions of that also so everyone is everything i bet
Those two guys are lying...they played on the boys teams and both dudes were consistently dead last.
If I had a $5.00 bill for every gender there is, I would have $10.00 and a whole bunch of counterfeits.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Math is the best.
Well said MR RICH
I wanna see if a trans male goes into the ring w say a good male boxer would this prove some theory about being built differently when a mike Tysons throws the hammer down
@@benjaminrussell6873 Yup, it's totally not fair, when a Trans Female fights a bunch of girls in the UFC, what type bs is that!? It's a man beating up a girl, tf?
Our rights don't end where your feelings begin
The one said “ you don’t want us running with the boys “. YES that’s exactly who you should be running against. WTF. 🤦🏻♂️
They already did it and they sucked. That's why they decided to cheat and run over the girls .
Nobody said they cannot run with the boys, women tennis players often fancy themselves as competitive against men, women golfers did the same. They chose not to run against men...
@@aaryin1888 they have no honor against women, . . . I wish Mulan would be reincarnated and challenge them Trial by Combat.
@@brianl7535 because it's not a same level playing field. Women and men play in different leagues for a reason.
But they are transgender women and if your brain doesn't have enough power to understand that means they are WOMEN. They shouldn't have to compete with men idiot.
I would like Mike Tyson to refer to himself as female and join the women’s boxing league.
You should look up the Fallon Fox story if you have never seen/heard of it
That's happened in UFC, Fallon Fox, he/she cracked the skull of a women fighter
@@TheAsianRepublican He didn't fight in UFC what are you talking about?
@@guiguijol Fallon Fox was in MMA. Alot of people who don't follow MMA just say UFC. You obviously know what they were saying, why act confused?
If someone says "oh they are a WWE wrestler" but the person was in AEW, everyone knows what they mean
@@madamefeast4824 because I m a martial arts lover since more than 30 years. And I don’t like ufc. So yes that makes a difference. The mistake you talk about makes me cringe.
Selina Soule is a beautiful, brave young women. I hope she and the other two young women that wished to remain anonymous win their lawsuit.
jasona9
The left: gender is a non binary construct
Me: by that logic transgender men should be able to compete in women sports
If you disagree your transphobic/sexist #equally
@XFactor "The Left" is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. The fact is that there are ONLY two sexes, and there are binary, immutable and biological differences between the two.
Write to the courts to help her out
I love how the media calls it controversy instead of common sense...
if this continues, some day girls will never ever have a chance to win at sports.
In a world where everybody is treated the same, there should not even be men or women sports, everybody should compete together. But since there is women sports and it created a forum where there is fair competition, maybe it's time to create a third category for this purpose.
Some day?
I agree , . . . Because men are becoming women, . . . And the US military will be all Trans
R.I.P female sports . . . and my condolences for women who're suffering from this madness . . .
Title nine has destroyed men and boys for almost fifty years, now it has hurt a few girls and people act like the sky is falling.
Women voted for this. Stop voting democrat and this nonsense goes away. This is the politics now with one party jumping on one side of every controversy. If you want to save women's sports, you have to also support the 2nd Amendment. This is weird but welcome to the stupidity of American politics.
@@Glasshopper EXACTLY
They only care about themselves
"No matter how hard we try, no matter how hard we train, they will beat us no matter what."
That sums this whole issue up perfectly. End the madness.
Not too long ago girls were denied access (and in some places still are), to participate in sports because of men,....now its the same thing again but with a twist?
yeah and its not just sports
Where? My grandmother is 87 and she was on the track team.
@@disf5178 havent you learned from BLM and feminists that anything less than 160 years is "not that long ago"
@@cosmic_rain9417 i probably didn't pay close enough 'attention' to what the OP is saying.. he's right.. you're right.. and bio boys should NOT be allowed to compete against girls.
@K Drop a "twist" or a "snip" to be more precise! 😉🧐
When life has become too comfortable, humans find a way to make it more difficult
When women have rights, some men will always try to take them.
@@tripleleotarot2416 some transgender you mean.
It's NOT complicated. There's TWO SEPARATE divisions. XX & XY...
Destination mobileone your forgetting Epstein didn’t kill himself.
Destination mobileone have you seen the veritas video of the abc news anchor? The truth is coming out even as we speak!
Destination mobileone there are consequences though. We have a reporter saying she had proof on Clinton’s and crown, people are waking up. Yes we may not see the exact justice we wish, but something is coming of it.
How closed minded. Humph. Ur nothing but a prejudiced meanie who knows basic biological facts. MEANIE...JK
Deep Space simple. I don’t know why they make it look so difficult
Props to that girl for going on TV with this! Thats what I call brave. Good for her, I wish more female athletes would stand up for themselves!
Soooooo been waiting for this lawsuit to be filed. About time. Wishing those biological females tons of luck on this one.
They are females. You don't have to put "biological" in front of it.
@@ValleyoftheRogue I was actually being a smart-ass when I said that. I completely agree with you.
Dude wearing a dress: "we're a female"
Me: Right...
Raiders Fan
Just join the 501st Legion.
It makes me feel bad for them. Years of hormone treatments and surgeries and 99.9 percent of people look at them and say: Huh, that's weird. A dude in a dress.
Well it will be F#$#*& if they Ruined Miss Universe, . . . .
@@MrJdouble1998 in this case, no ops and minimal HRT
they should compete amongst the other ladyboys.
They won’t cause that’ll be a real competition
There is not a big enough group of people to do this but it would be more fair
Just like they have the 'para' games, or the 'over 50' games, have the 'trans-gender' games !!
problem with that solution is people will say oh you cant do that thats transphobic
But it will still be a men sport just men identifying as women🤣🤣🤣
Ok, I’m a “liberal” but this is insane. I am 100 percent an ally for everyone’s rights, but we are really going too far with constantly making sure we don’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Life is tough. We aren’t doing anyone any favors by (for example) removing the female symbol on tampons because we don’t want to hurt the feelings of transgender men who still menstruate.
These mf is stupid. Im sorry that most men can't take responsibility as A MAN. I will be dammed if a transgender dude try to fight my daughter cus if he's mad then he's mad its no holding back.
@eviscerate dunda
shes trying to say she doesnt agree even though her party tends to be trans inclusive. Thats not stupid
JoannaMichelleHeath The left: gender is a non binary construct
Me: by that logic transgender men should be able to compete in women sports
If you disagree your transphobic/sexist #equally
eviscerate dunda The most postmodern & Orwellian comment of the day.
@@funnyyoutubehoodvids8569 if u touch a trans thats a hate crime
This girl has every right to be upset, this is ridiculous. It's similar to older kids competing against younger pre pubic kids, it's genetically unfair
I see huge lawsuits coming out of this mess. 🤦🏼♀️
I typically despise the American sueing culture, but in this case it's a good thing.
Oh great... But I should make a small note of caution that the deck is probably stacked in favor of the LGBT persuasion, as we have seen the last 20 or so years. It is the agenda after all...
@@frederickbarbarossa8340
One can only hope there are still some righteous judges out there
Title 9.
Well, when women and girls get out of the Boy Scouts and every other male space then we can talk about removing trans men from women's sports. Until you do that, you're just a hypocrite. Oh and _blacks_ are physically superior to whites so they should be segregated too. What's that? OH you say that's not the same?!? HOW? You have 2 situation with both _clearly_ genetically physically superior groups of people taking advantage of a situation. *Can't wait to see you try to worm your way out of this one!* LOL!!!
“So you don’t want us running with the boys” ummmmmm yes we do! That’s the issue here
ALL the girls should refuse to compete in public school track and form your own league with no males.
@@TheKaneECO You can make your own league with your own rules, and soon it will be bigger than the public league. They can't do anything but complain.
@@vegtamvanderveg sounds good in theory but I doubt you'd find the chance to get a sponsor that would actively deny transgenders into it. Not in this climate anyway.
As soon as you make it, transgenders will fight to join it, even though they have the public track team, they will try just to fight against it. Why? Because when itsvall transgendeds racing each other than it will be harder and they might have to put in work to win. I promise if thevschool made an all transgender team they would fight against that to and refuse to join it.
No boyz aLLOWED!!
It's crazy what the world has become, I never thought things would get so screwed up.
We are living in the "Last Days" of the Roman Empire
Preach!
"It's the conversation we need to have" - but we're scared shitless to have it right now.
No way men should be allowed to complete in woman's sports as women.
"I'm only sixteen so it shouldn't be up to me to decide." Lol, win!
They want to completely get rid of female sports.
This garbage is going to have to be legislated against and to fraudulently compete to be a crime. Queer theory nonsense has no business being in sports or anything else in our society. It is ruinous.
That’s why Title 9 was created.
@@ValleyoftheRogue OH! Wooo a little hot under the collar there, Missy! Where were you when girls were busy infiltrating and destroying *the Boy Scouts* one of the last male spaces left for boys? Mmm? And Title IX shutting down Chemistry classes and/or any classes for years now because it's all too hard for girls because no girls are smart enough? Where was your 'outrage' then, HYPOCRITE?
@@ValleyoftheRogue Sorry to break the very bad news to you and all females who want to play sports... *your status is **_far_** below that of trans men on the victim totem pole of misery and stupidity that YOU and feminism created in the first place! HAHAHA!* Now you're having your own freakish and perverse social engineering and Marxist ideologies based on LIES like 'eh, gender is a social construct' backfire on you and your own SHIT shoved back down your own throats! HOW'S IT TASTE?!? HAHAHAHAHA!!!! I LOVE THIS!! FINALLY JUSTICE. AIN'T KARMA A B?
@@ValleyoftheRogue And in the words of our previous 'president,' Ovomit, this is a "teachable moment" for all young girls to learn an important lesson, Feminism/Marxism/Liberalism, *all* of it is evil and _perversity_ and it is linear and needs to feed on and destroy society ever more and more with even MORE outrageous insanity and perversion and when you play with fire you get burned! Very important lesson for girls about the perversity and lies of feminism, 100% FRAUD
And this new generation of girls will learn that they don't belong in sports anyway, but *in the kitchen raising children like nature designed you to, it's why nature designed women to be vastly physically AND mentally inferior to men*
And I can't wait to help a new generation of females learn basic human traits again- it's going to take decades, but we'll get there!
“Biological men taking opportunity away from women”. Period
After a boy has gone thru puberty, it doesn't matter if you decrease their testosterone or even do transition surgery, their bodies have already developed past the level of most females.
There's a reason why sports are divided based on gender. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
So these two dudes couldn't cut it with the big boys so now they are gonna pic on the girls?
Selina is just not fast enough. Plain and simple. There should not be male and female segregation to begin with. We should just have one league for everybody - no discrimination.
@Joel Twinem I don't have a problem with having multiple leagues based on skill and calibre. Nothing wrong with having leagues A, B, C,....
What I have a problem with is when we create leagues based on gender because you are excluding people simply based on their gender. Last time I checked, people don't get to choose what gender they are - just like your skin colour.
The problem with an all women's league is that we are literally saying men are stronger than women and hence feeding into that BS stereotype.
@Joel Twinem But hey if you hate our country so much and you want to live by gender segregation, then you are free to move to Saudi Arabia or Brunei and enjoy all the Sharia horseshit you want.
No Islam in America! Keep America Great! Trump 2020!
@Joel Twinem But what about creating a league specifically for white people. Afterall, black are naturally much stronger and faster. As it is no white man stands a chance at winning the 100 m race at the Olympics. But of course, we cannot have a white only league because that would racist. So what is the difference here?
@Joel Twinem It absolutely is sexist, by definition, to seperate men and women into 2 categories.
But then again, biology itself is very sexist so I guess it's hard to get around that.
This is both disturbing and heartbreaking.
Consider this, because this is a real possibility: The two transgenders compete against women who haven't benefited from 2k+ years of evolution from male genetics. At the end of high school, they each win athletic scholarships, and deny the biological women those scholarships. On graduation day, they decide, "you know what, being a women sucks. I'm going back to identifying as a male, except now I have scholarships".
Since "being a women" is now defined as a state of mind, rather than based on genetic makeup, it allows people the option to change their minds about how they identify.
These videos show how this can be unfair to biological women. I think another important mention is that it doesn't work both ways. A transgender male (biological women) would still be disadvantaged in either sports teams (mens and womens).
I think we are a long way off from these dudes getting recruited to run on a womans collegiate team. High schools care about peoples feelings more than colleges and professional sports.
The Scholarship is most lilely tied to an obligation to compete for the university, if they don't run, they probably loose it anyway.
This is the most stupid comment ever. Captian lactation, chill, you do yourself and your arguement a disservice.
Currently 12 weeks pregnant. Already planning to send my child to private school. Ain't putting up with this crap. I ll pay whatever the cost!
It’s a fraud and a weird one
They need to just make a Transgender Division
I’m with the Naturals on this one
According to Williams Institute in 2016, only 0.6% of the United States population is transgender. that's not enough people to create their own division. Also, people don't transition genders just to be segregated. This is just illogical...
Just means it will be more Competitive
Ridiculousness at the highest levels, two young men, competing against girls, damn shame. The end of female sports.
I live in Colorado and authorities include this training at the workplace. I refuse to comply.
I identify myself as Michael Jackson. My pronouns are hee hee heeee. 😂
the black or white version? :p
And you and a Levis store that has a sale are alike, you both have little boys jeans half off.
Cognitive dissonance is the key here. “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
Such incredible evil is being foisted on Americans.
@Se Ou "when women started infringing on male sports" could you specify that please? Thanks
"How many legs does a sheep have if you call its tail a leg ?
Four, because calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one"
-Abraham Lincoln
crazy how we let such a small group of people (less than 1%) change the whole society.
Been over three years and I still feel bad for Selina as well as Alaina and Chelsea
CT and NY judges would not rule so this is headed to the Supreme Court. Other countries are now following the actual science and my hopes is that America isn’t far behind.
@@TheNesbittExperience I just hope no other women and girls worldwide are not forced to compete against biological men and boys
This is what happens when you push political correctness to the max. Insanity... plain insanity.
Q: If Donald Trump wakes up tomorrow and "feels" like a Female, would America have it's first Woman President?
According to their logic, yes
that surely would shut these freaks up... for a sec than they complain how he would mock them...
complaining is their religion.
Feb 2021. Well I guess that would have to be Joe Biden who does and says that...... and actually the democrats are the ones to promote this insanity re the genders.
2:10 Newsflash: you are **NOT** female.
There's all kinds of "unfair" discrimination that occurs. My friend in high school couldn't play basketball because he had asthma. He was good at basketball, but he couldn't pass the physical. There was a kid with cerebral palsy... what do you think happens if he even showed up on the field to TRY OUT for football?
Look... if you're transgender, it's as simple as this... you no longer fit perfectly into male or female athletics, so you won't be allowed to compete in either category. If that means you make a transgender category... fine. If that means you make TWO transgender categories (m/f and f/m) that's also fine. If you want to practice with the team without competing... fine... but YOU made this life-altering decision. You don't get to alter OTHER PEOPLE'S lives with your decision.
I hope the media won't throw her under the bus and she gets the a scholarship. I really feel for her
If all the real women would not move at the start of the sport and boycott it. It would put an end to this disgusting thing
This really needs more exposure. I can't believe this only has just over 26K views in 3 months. My instinct is this is another example of UA-cam pushing down this type of content to keep it hidden.
It's not a controversy.. it's a travesty ..
Have transgendered athletes compete against transgendered athletes. There. Now it's fair. I just fixed it for you and I won't charge you a damn thing. You're welcome.
This is literally two guys with long hair in dresses competing at girls sports.
Willing to bet these two guys were mediocre track runners when they competed with men in a fair competition.
apparently they were
Shame on these two guys.
It doesn’t matter how they FEEL. You’re taking scholarships away from real females that worked hard for years to get where they are.
Blame feminism.
Title nine was pushed into place by second wave in 1972, since then it has been cheating men and boys by the thousands but now a few girls get hurt by it and it's unfair and boys cheating girls.
Make a national or regional league for transgender students. Or since gender is a subjective societal construct, have them compete with the boys.
Even with hormonal therapy, the male skeletal and muscular structure is still there and it heavily favors the biological males (which is why we have separate male and female competitions).
Isn't it funny that we never see biological females competing in boys leagues? Kudos to Selena who is a very strong and principled girl.
There aren't enough of these dudes to have a separate division. I just say there is no inherent right to cheat, and if you try to cheat by claiming you are a female, you go to jail for fraud and get fined.
@@ValleyoftheRogue
If you round up all transgendered student from East Coast you can prolly have a decent set of transgendered competitors.
Of course, they always have the option of competing against boys, so it's not like they would be the pariah of society, out of options.
So why isn't there separate leagues for the races as well? Are you going to actually sit there and try to convince me that as groups blacks and whites are genetically the same? On average blacks are genetically designed physically superior by nature to be stronger and faster, look what they've done to football and basketball, 95% black as a result- why isn't anyone complaining about THAT?
@@jeffbridges5312
We already have boys and girls sports segregation because as a society we came to the conclusion that the physical differences between males and females are too large and would create an unfair advantage over females if we competed together. Physical differences between white and black males are noticeable but not to the point where whites have no chance to compete, otherwise 95% of gold-medalists at the Olympic games would be black. We abandoned racial segregation 50 years ago...feel free to start a whites-only league :)
@@NihilSineDeo09 _Physical differences between white and black males are noticeable but not to the point where whites have no chance to compete_
*Football: 95% Black*
*Basketball: 95% Black*
*Boxing: All the top winners, all black*
*Track: All of the top winners, all black*
and blacks clearly dominate in baseball as well they just don't like it as much thus the only reason it isn't 95% black. Blacks dominate every last sport a large percentage of them choose to play
And you're so deluded living in your phony PC hallucinogenic bubble that you're going to sit there and try to claim blacks are not _massively_ superior physically to whites. Well, congratulations! _You_ win the 'The Virtue Signalling Coward of the Year Award!'
_otherwise 95% of gold-medalists at the Olympic games would be black_
That's stupid. The only reason blacks don't win all of the medals in the Olympics is because the categories are far too varied and blacks don't care many of them such as ice skating and gymnastics and you know it, which is why you used that creepy slight of hand and use the Olympics- you must be a Liberal, that's all Liberals do.. deceive, use half truths, manipulate, try to trick and gas light because you're unethical, lazy, mentally weak and cowards
_We abandoned racial segregation 50 years ago_ Lol You're talking about a different _kind_ of segregation, Dummy. More creepy attempts at a slight of hand
It's not about being negative its about being honest with the reality of a situation
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If you love track then they shouldn’t have competed in women’s div. they can identify themselves as women but still they should compete in men’s division. ridiculously unfair.
Make it into XX and XY divisions.
I would pull my daughter out of any female sport as long as this is happening. As should every other girl's parents. Then you would just have a couple guys left competing against themselves.
That's a great idea! Who are they going
to compete with except other ladyboys like them.
They would win if you do that.....
@@jasonm7684 then let them win amongst them fake selves.
Waking up everyday and seeing this shit is happening out here get me really frustrated.
Transgenders females should have their own teams. What’s wrong with that? My heart goes out to all the girls; this is a tough one.
I have an idea!! Biological boys compete w/ boys!!!
I want see how all of this works out when they're competing at national senior trials one day
These guys are scary looking. That's what my 4 year old son said when I was watching this vid. Out of the mouths of babes!
How is this a complicated issue? If they are biological males run with the males. No one says they cant run, they just shouldnt run with the girls. The transgender athletes are definitely trying to be the victims in this, but they made a choice and sometimes our choices have positive and negative consequences.
Those male transgender i.d. girls competed in the boys track and were average.
The effects of living a lie
The conversation isn’t complicated, its simple. Women should compete against women, and men against men. If States want to explore transgender athletic leagues, and allow people to compete in whatever manner they please; that option is available. But, Connecticut has certainly made a mess of things.
Same applies to the other 18 states. Create an open league or a transgender category within the sport but do not expect support from a parent of an XX child when an XY student wants to join the team.
It sickens me to see legislators, and sports organizations pass laws that are rooted in pseudoscience. This isn’t helping people. Likewise, it isn’t helping communities find common ground. Children losing scholarship, and affirmative opportunities to satisfy the feelings of a small demographic is inflammatory, and wrong. There was a time when legislators attempted to make decisions that were in the best interest of improving our societal fabric, it isn’t about people pleasing.
I hope Selina gets offers. I feel bad that not only her but others girls are losing opportunities.
Sorry it sounds like anti women!!!
Exactly, Well said!! It is misogyny!
In 2020, I would love for us as a society to get rid of the concept of "identify as" as something deserving special treatment.
They are not females. They are milli vanilli
Transgender sports. Group them together and give them their individuality.
Soon I'll be able to change my age too.
Watch the body language of the boys. The one in white, watch how he looks into the camera. They know exactly what they’re doing. This is a war on women AGAIN. We will never have our own anything. Hell, we can’t even be proud of being a stay at home mother anymore, that’s raising their family. G-d help us. 😞
I now identify as an illegal immigrant, give me welfare and public assistance..
As much as I agree that this is unfair to girls like Selina and we need to have more conversation, I don't understand why this comment section is full of bashing transgender people. I am a transgender person myself but I do agree that there are biological differences between men and women and we need more nuance in this debate. As Selina herself says there should be a way for transgender people to compete fairly but not take away the rights of cisgender women and that is the discussion we need to have here. Bashing transgender people for who they are is not helping anyone.
Have transgender male and females either compete against each other or have transmen in one division and transwomen in another. Simple
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What the real girls should do is all pull out of any sporting events
That have trans gender participants.
Then they will have to do something about it.
Up next on the news...Lebron James scores 150 points in his first game playing in the wnba as a woman
Transgender should compete with other transgenders in sports....
Trans community vs feminist community. Mind blown.
Do a story on Rachel MacKinnon next?? See how the comment section will look then.
As a Canadian that Rachel McKinnon embarrasses the hell out of me. Can we ship her to America please?
Honestly, if I were a competetive athlete, I would just refuse to compete since I would not have a chance of winning anyway. And obviously, it's not all about winning but, I at least want to have a fair chance.
Transplaining, mansplanlining, chickfiletsplaining, somebody do some explaining.
They keep Semenya off the track but let these men run with females. OMG
Thanks Obama,what a fine mess you've got us into..
Don't forget to thank feminism!
Its kind of funny how shameless they are and are so proud of winning.
From all stories I have seen I don't just mean those two in this video.
Almost like they don't even acknowledge how unfair it is to females in the sport.