Just FYI, yes, the 2nd edition of RightStart addresses those cons of flow and separating the why and the what. The 2nd edition is also not “new”. The first of the levels was released 9 years ago and the set was completed 3 years ago. I would definitely look into 2nd edition rather than 1st if you are a new user deciding where to start. RS goes through middle school math and includes pre-algebra concepts, so students are ready for algebra when they are done. (RS does not have algebra.) Also, point of clarification: RightStart Is not purely mastery. There is more to the spiral than just the warm ups. There are also many concepts that are introduced conceptually in lower levels that aren’t taught fully until later levels. The beauty and usefulness of this becomes evident the further up you go, especially in Level E and Level F when traditionally “hard” concepts that were introduced in earlier levels turn out to be no problem at all when they are fully taught. As to the price, there is a trade off in time-cost of gathering household odds and ends to use for manipulatives vs. having specific items on hand to grab as you teach, not to mention piecemeal costs of having to buy anything you don’t happen to have on hand.
Yes, I had tried First Edition a few years ago and hated it, but I kept coming back to RSM because of their foundation. I ordered second edition this time and I’m loving it. I homeschool kids with learning disabilities and their improvement in math is just amazing.
What a great video, Ashley! I especially love your message about how there is no perfect curriculum, at the end, you just have to pick one and use that choice with confidence.
Knowing YOURSELF as a teacher and your family situation matters so much in planning curriculum. Dealing with a lot of moving parts is not my natural style--I like the price of MWC as well as the fact that you can use more household items and fewer specific manipulatives.
Hmmmm…. To say RS is expensive every year per child is invalid. They are very comparable price wise after the initial up front cost of RS and manipulative kit. I also want to add that math SHOULD be teacher intensive. Both are (I am currently using both with different kids). Lessons at the lower levels take the same amount of time. Idk….. they are different and have pros and cons but feel these are not valid ones.
After comparing these curriculums about a month ago I decided to go with Math With Confidence K because it was very hands on like RS but the flow of lessons made more sense to me. I was a little nervous with it being a new curriculum. I’m so excited to get started on our first year of homeschool this Fall. Please continue to share your thoughts on MWC as your children move through the levels.
I tried for so long to make Right Start work in our family, but with having 8 kids at the time within 9 years, I had to give it up. Now I have 10 and I definitely am glad I made changes. The newer editions of the teacher guides are laid out better, but they are STILL very teacher intensive and there is almost zero independence until the level G. I kept the games book and all manipulatives because they are amazing. Right Start is very effective and I love the WAY it teaches math, just hard to juggle with so many young kids.
I hear you!! 💜💜 Wow, 10 kiddos! That sounds like a lot of work with Right Start. I really do love their games and manipulatives. I find I still use those and the things I learned through using Right Start with our Math lessons.
Hey Ashley! I am doing my 2nd year with RightStart and my daughter is really struggling with it. I am wondering if your fam is still doing Math with Confidence. Is it still working good for you?
@@cerissabrown3487 RightStart was just too heavy for her. It overwhelmed her so much she would cry every lesson. We switched to MWC and it's been a complete game changer. We are to happy we switched. Math is her fave subject now!
I currently use Right Start but honestly it jumps around so much as has too many manipulatives so not sure I can stick with it. Is Math With Confidence CC compliant? Thanks!!
Hi! I don’t really know the answer if it is CC compliant 🤔 You’ll have to ask Kate Snow (the creator) or The Well Trained Mind (the publisher). Sorry I can’t help!
I so badly wanted to love 1st grade MWC but it just didn't work for us. It was awful 😢. I'm jealous of everyone who loves it so much! We have found something that works and I guess that's all that matters.
Bummer! I'm sorry he's past level 2 :( I would either use Right Start or Singapore. Kate Snow mentions her favorites and how to choose curriculum in this post here: kateshomeschoolmath.com/how-to-choose-homeschool-math-curriculum/
I’m so torn because I was set on MWC but then I saw someone on marketplace selling every single level of Right Start along with all the manipulatives for $200 so now I’m conflicted.
It’s so hard!! I really loved level A and B for Right start, and then did 1st or 2nd Grade math with confidence. My kids all flew through 1st Grade Math after Right Start!
We are currently using RS level A with my 6 yo and I’m considering MWC kindergarten or first grade for my 4 year old because he is bright with math and loves workbooks. I’ve heard, though, that MWC is too easy… Did you find that to be true?
I noticed my youngest FLEW through the kindergarten math, but then he slowed a little when we did First Grade. My thought is that it's fine to have easy math in kindergarten :) They are just dipping their toes in the concepts and don't need to be challenged too much just yet. I really loved the picture books and the memory work that came with MWC K and 1st. And the games to memorize the math facts. It is really more than a math workbook :) RS Level A is so similar to MWC K + 1st.
No, Kate Snow said it will only go to 6th Grade 😔 I am actually looking at Saxon for my current 6th grader, along with Nicole the Math Lady. She does video lessons! I’m all about outsourcing math when my kids get to the higher levels. nicolethemathlady.com
How would math with confidence work for a Canadian? We don't have pennies anymore or dollar bills, but do have coins of loonies($1) and toonies ($2). Also we offcially have metric system, but in practice most people still use imperial
Hey! She gives alternative options in the lesson for Canadian currency! She provides blank coins in the back of the book that you can write 1s and 2s on. Or just use your own coins. 😊 And she does both metric and imperial measurements throughout the program. :)
@@JoyfulNoiseLearningbought the curriculum and liking it so far! Decided to teach in dollar amounts. Actually also makes more sense to me since "buying" a toy for $1-$5 seems more realistic then a few cents. Kinda teaches value of a dollar at the same time.
Yes!! You can get on Kate Snow’s email list! She sends out an announcement each Spring. I think the 4th grade window is closed, but maybe next year you can join :) kateshomeschoolmath.com/newsletter/
I’m looking at homeschooling, my son is going into 3rd grade, it is an ABC school, he is in school for 6 hrs a day, last year, he came home with 2 math pages double sided, spelling and other forms to complete every day for homework, so, I don’t see it getting any better this year, starting next week. I’m retired and could homeschool. Any thoughts.
@@JoyfulNoiseLearning sorry for the delay, I’m retired and have a 3rd grader who started Saxon math and is struggling big time with this type of math, he doesn’t understand reading comprehension math questions
Just FYI, yes, the 2nd edition of RightStart addresses those cons of flow and separating the why and the what. The 2nd edition is also not “new”. The first of the levels was released 9 years ago and the set was completed 3 years ago. I would definitely look into 2nd edition rather than 1st if you are a new user deciding where to start. RS goes through middle school math and includes pre-algebra concepts, so students are ready for algebra when they are done. (RS does not have algebra.)
Also, point of clarification: RightStart Is not purely mastery. There is more to the spiral than just the warm ups. There are also many concepts that are introduced conceptually in lower levels that aren’t taught fully until later levels. The beauty and usefulness of this becomes evident the further up you go, especially in Level E and Level F when traditionally “hard” concepts that were introduced in earlier levels turn out to be no problem at all when they are fully taught.
As to the price, there is a trade off in time-cost of gathering household odds and ends to use for manipulatives vs. having specific items on hand to grab as you teach, not to mention piecemeal costs of having to buy anything you don’t happen to have on hand.
Thank you so much! This was super helpful! I do wish some days I would have stuck with it and went all the way through. It's such a great program.
Yes, I had tried First Edition a few years ago and hated it, but I kept coming back to RSM because of their foundation. I ordered second edition this time and I’m loving it. I homeschool kids with learning disabilities and their improvement in math is just amazing.
What a great video, Ashley! I especially love your message about how there is no perfect curriculum, at the end, you just have to pick one and use that choice with confidence.
Knowing YOURSELF as a teacher and your family situation matters so much in planning curriculum. Dealing with a lot of moving parts is not my natural style--I like the price of MWC as well as the fact that you can use more household items and fewer specific manipulatives.
Yes, so true, Rachel! Those are definitely pluses for me as well when it comes to MWC :)
So MWC is less manipulatives?
Hmmmm…. To say RS is expensive every year per child is invalid. They are very comparable price wise after the initial up front cost of RS and manipulative kit. I also want to add that math SHOULD be teacher intensive. Both are (I am currently using both with different kids). Lessons at the lower levels take the same amount of time. Idk….. they are different and have pros and cons but feel these are not valid ones.
After comparing these curriculums about a month ago I decided to go with Math With Confidence K because it was very hands on like RS but the flow of lessons made more sense to me. I was a little nervous with it being a new curriculum. I’m so excited to get started on our first year of homeschool this Fall. Please continue to share your thoughts on MWC as your children move through the levels.
Awesome!! I hope it works well for you guys 👏🏻👏🏻😁
Thank you for this review!♥️
Thanks for watching!! I hope it helps 😃
I tried for so long to make Right Start work in our family, but with having 8 kids at the time within 9 years, I had to give it up. Now I have 10 and I definitely am glad I made changes. The newer editions of the teacher guides are laid out better, but they are STILL very teacher intensive and there is almost zero independence until the level G. I kept the games book and all manipulatives because they are amazing. Right Start is very effective and I love the WAY it teaches math, just hard to juggle with so many young kids.
I hear you!! 💜💜 Wow, 10 kiddos! That sounds like a lot of work with Right Start. I really do love their games and manipulatives. I find I still use those and the things I learned through using Right Start with our Math lessons.
What one do you use now
Hello! Can u please tell which curriculum did u switch to and after which level will it be better to switch?
Is 2nd grade MWC 10-20 minutes a day? Or is that for K and 1st? Thanks in advance! ❤
Yes! It's about 10-20 minutes a lesson, depending on the day and kiddo. I'm a big believer in short lessons.
Hey Ashley! I am doing my 2nd year with RightStart and my daughter is really struggling with it. I am wondering if your fam is still doing Math with Confidence. Is it still working good for you?
What part of Right start is your daughter struggling with ? My daughter has a math learning disability
@@cerissabrown3487 RightStart was just too heavy for her. It overwhelmed her so much she would cry every lesson. We switched to MWC and it's been a complete game changer. We are to happy we switched. Math is her fave subject now!
I currently use Right Start but honestly it jumps around so much as has too many manipulatives so not sure I can stick with it.
Is Math With Confidence CC compliant?
Thanks!!
Hi! I don’t really know the answer if it is CC compliant 🤔 You’ll have to ask Kate Snow (the creator) or The Well Trained Mind (the publisher). Sorry I can’t help!
I think you are making me lean towards Math with Confidence! It seems like just what I need… hands on, short lessons.
I so badly wanted to love 1st grade MWC but it just didn't work for us. It was awful 😢. I'm jealous of everyone who loves it so much! We have found something that works and I guess that's all that matters.
Oh! I’m so sorry it didn’t work for you! I’m curious, what did you find that worked? I’m glad you found something 😁
What did you chose?
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What did you find that works? I'm curious what you did not like about MWC
Please help! I love Math with Confidence but my son is past level 2. What would you use for Math? He hated math you see.
Bummer! I'm sorry he's past level 2 :( I would either use Right Start or Singapore. Kate Snow mentions her favorites and how to choose curriculum in this post here: kateshomeschoolmath.com/how-to-choose-homeschool-math-curriculum/
I have heard that Apologia Math is very similar!
We are using Apologia Math 4 and my child really likes it
Apologia or RightStart are similar to MWC. Wish MWC was farther along in development than lower elementary 😢
I’m so torn because I was set on MWC but then I saw someone on marketplace selling every single level of Right Start along with all the manipulatives for $200 so now I’m conflicted.
It’s so hard!! I really loved level A and B for Right start, and then did 1st or 2nd Grade math with confidence. My kids all flew through 1st Grade Math after Right Start!
Purchased MWC First Grade under your recommendation and have been so impressed and thankful. ❤️
Awesome! I hope it works well for you guys 😃💜💜💜🎉
We are currently using RS level A with my 6 yo and I’m considering MWC kindergarten or first grade for my 4 year old because he is bright with math and loves workbooks. I’ve heard, though, that MWC is too easy… Did you find that to be true?
I noticed my youngest FLEW through the kindergarten math, but then he slowed a little when we did First Grade. My thought is that it's fine to have easy math in kindergarten :) They are just dipping their toes in the concepts and don't need to be challenged too much just yet. I really loved the picture books and the memory work that came with MWC K and 1st. And the games to memorize the math facts. It is really more than a math workbook :)
RS Level A is so similar to MWC K + 1st.
I love rightstart
I appreciate both comparisons. Thank you!
I would love to talk more about buying right start program!
Okay! Email me at ashley@joyfulnoiselearning.com 😄
Do you anticipate KS going beyond the 6th grade? Would you switch back to RSM after 6th?
No, Kate Snow said it will only go to 6th Grade 😔 I am actually looking at Saxon for my current 6th grader, along with Nicole the Math Lady. She does video lessons! I’m all about outsourcing math when my kids get to the higher levels. nicolethemathlady.com
How would math with confidence work for a Canadian? We don't have pennies anymore or dollar bills, but do have coins of loonies($1) and toonies ($2). Also we offcially have metric system, but in practice most people still use imperial
Hey! She gives alternative options in the lesson for Canadian currency! She provides blank coins in the back of the book that you can write 1s and 2s on. Or just use your own coins. 😊
And she does both metric and imperial measurements throughout the program. :)
@@JoyfulNoiseLearningbought the curriculum and liking it so far! Decided to teach in dollar amounts. Actually also makes more sense to me since "buying" a toy for $1-$5 seems more realistic then a few cents. Kinda teaches value of a dollar at the same time.
We definitely love math with confidence over here! Do you know how to become part of the pilot program or get information on it?
Yes!! You can get on Kate Snow’s email list! She sends out an announcement each Spring. I think the 4th grade window is closed, but maybe next year you can join :) kateshomeschoolmath.com/newsletter/
I’m looking at homeschooling, my son is going into 3rd grade, it is an ABC school, he is in school for 6 hrs a day, last year, he came home with 2 math pages double sided, spelling and other forms to complete every day for homework, so, I don’t see it getting any better this year, starting next week. I’m retired and could homeschool. Any thoughts.
You could totally homeschool ☺️ Do you work at all? Or do you stay home you said??
@@JoyfulNoiseLearning sorry for the delay, I’m retired and have a 3rd grader who started Saxon math and is struggling big time with this type of math, he doesn’t understand reading comprehension math questions
Were you using RSM first or second edition?
I was using the first edition. I bet the 2nd edition is MUCH better actually! I have heard good things about it, but just never jumped in with it.
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