Good video with realistic expectations. I have driven my 2020 RC350 F sport for almost 56,000 miles in just over 4 years, averaging 31-33 mpg on the freeway and about 19-20 mpg just around town. Still on the front tires and should get about 60,000 miles on the fronts and the rear tires were replaced at 33,000 miles. Original rear brakes and fronts were replaced at 46,000 miles. No mechanical issues nor warentee issues in over 4 years. This is a great car for long distance driving, commuting and in sport + mode, rather rapid acceleration and is not nor will ever be a sports car. Too heavy but, I live in Los Angeles and maybe see another RC on the road about every 2 months for all years produced. BMW's and Mercedes are a dime a dozen. This a comfortable, quiet, problem free vehicle, and a keeper. If you want a true sports car, then purchase a sports car. I still get people giving me the high fives as the car remains a looker and will not be confused with any other similar car. If you are in your 20's and can afford the car, want speed and handling, don't expect the RC to do what an M2 or sporty type vehicle will do, but, if you are in you later 30's or up, and working, then this is a terrific commuting car and relatively cheap to keep, just routine maintenance. Your money, your choice.
Have 1 year w a 2021 blackline 350 Bad gas mileage Slow-ish Super comfy Awesome AC/seats The trackpad is awesome you don't have to move your body Smooth I got lexus racing aero stabs Rear wing Trunk won't open on its own w lexus wing Car shoves in corners Oil change every 16000 Ppf helps Lights are amazing
@gabriellopez7184 I went for my first one after 8000km (bought used 22000km) I thought i was very late already. I do motorcycles and cars at 7000km. Then the dealership said we'll see you at 16000km. I was surprised. But the oil and schedule literature says so.
Really love what you did to your RC. I actually own one too, it's a 2019 model and it's AWD and lacks the triple beams. IMO the triple beams look ok but I think the stock lights on the refresh suit the car much better. Bought it certified used for 38k at 62k miles and it's been a year and I'm now at 78k miles on mine. It's been paid off completely and I'm gonna keep this as my daily until it won't run anymore. The only reason I went with AWD is cause I live in Illinois and AWD makes winters much more bearable. I've driven 6 speeds my whole life so I don't know how much I would've missed having that 8-speed like the RWD version. I was actually in the same boat as you regarding the 86. I originally wanted a GT86 then GR86 but I just didn't know if I could live with the Subaru engine. No knock at Subaru but I'm paying extra for the Toyota badge, give me Toyota hardware damn it. Your review is basically spot on. This is no sports car and people looking at this car as one will be disappointed. But for a reliable GT car that is comfortable and unique, this is a solid option. And again, the 2GR-FKS for a V6, it sounds great and gives me enough power to get into some trouble. If anything this car cemented my love for Lexus and made me realize GT cars fit my preferences and I'm looking forward to the day I can finally own a LC500. I love driving my RC because how often do you see a 2-door Lexus on the road? Looking forward to where you go from here, 100% imo keep the RC as the daily and get the Miata.
That’s awesome! Have you had any issues or major repairs that’s been needed to the car, during your ownership? I’m curious what to expect in the future, once the car is at 60k-70k miles. I’ve never driven the 6 speed version of the car, but most of the car reviewers who have done videos on the AWD RC, have mentioned that the 8 speed is quicker shifting. Given the area that you live in, AWD makes the most sense. I definitely am planning on getting a sportier car in the future. I especially like the new ND3 Miata. The slight changes to the exterior, and the new infotainment screen, make it a bit more live-able/modern. It would be an amazing garage to have both a RC and Miata; GT car for cruising and sports car for back road fun.
@@bayareadrives There was a rubber seal issue near the windshield that the dealer replaced for us for free only because we've been Toyota/Lexus customers for so long and I did have to have a pressure valve replace and it was thankfully covered under the certified warranty. Other than that my RC has been bulletproof. I think the pressure value replacement was just a freak thing. My next service I do need to replace my rotors, that's a grand I am not looking forward to dropping but I knew what I was getting myself into when I got this car. As long as you do the basics relatively on time the car will last. And yeah the RWD version is a bit quicker, I think about 5.8 sec for the 0-60 compared to the AWD's 6 second 0-60. I do want to ask have you tried Android Auto in yours? I missed out on it by literally one year which bums me out since I am an Android and not Apple user. I'm thinking about retrofitting a new screen so that I can have Android Auto and touchscreen.
@@bayareadrives One more thing I forgot to mention, the RCF rear cupholders do retrofit perfectly in the RC350. You might run into a slight issue if you do fold your backseats down where one side will go only 95% of the way down? But the extra slots to hold 2 extra drinks and whatnot more than makes up for it. It's the best 200 bucks I spent to make the RC that much more daily-able since I find the front cupholders are always occupied. If you do decide to retrofit the RCF rear cupholders, order some spare clips, because they will break when you remove the rear seat.
That’s great to hear, that the car has been bulletproof besides some one off things. The brake pad and rotor replacements are something I am not looking forward to as well lol. At my last service, my brakes are at 8 or 9mm so I should be ok for some time. I have an iPhone, so I haven’t tried out android auto. I have seen some people on the Lexus RC subreddit as well as the ClubLexus forums, where some owners have retrofitted the new screens onto their RC’s. Some owners have also bought third party adapters/software to enable CarPlay and Android auto, so that could be an option as well. I recently saw a write up of someone installing the RCF cup holders on either Reddit or ClubLexus, it seemed pretty straightforward. I don’t think I’d do it on the car, as I rarely have anyone sit in the back seats, I either drive the car myself majority of the time, or I only have 1 passenger who rides shotgun.
@@bayareadrives Gotcha, I don't have an iPhone so i always wondered how the CarPlay experience is. I've been doing fine with just bluetooth and that gets me through the day. My rotors are I think at 4mm??? now so yeah they're due for a replacement soon. And yeah I only did the cupholders because I kept running out of storage for cups and whatnot. It's really nice having that extra storage in the back since I can just toss a water bottle back there and not worry about it too much. Surprisingly the back seats have been usable and I've been able to carry people around for short trips.
PPF has certainly helped my car out, especially in the Bay Area! Parts of the 580, 880 and 101 all feel like rally special stages with the amount of rocks that get kicked up! Surprisingly few punctures in the film even after over 5 years, though I still get annoyed when it happens lol
I despise driving on 880, it’s like an actual war zone with terrible road quality and aggressive drivers. At least they finally are repaving parts of it, but I usually take the side streets most of the time to avoid 880 hahaha.
@@bayareadrives haha so true, I always avoid 880 if I can help it. It feels like Caltrans has been working on it for years, but it's still just as crummy as ever, and yeah the drivers there are something else lol
i agree the 2gr platform can feel unspirited compared to other cars in that price range but consider getting yourself a nice pair of coils, and maybe supercharge the car eventually. it would eliminate the negatives you're talking about and you would have something more unique
I think coil overs maybe my next move. The F Sport lowering springs have definitely stiffened up the car, but I still find there to be little to no difference in normal and sport + drive modes, in terms of suspension stiffness. I feel like once I need to replace the dampers, I will switch to coils, since I’m assuming the OEM electronic dampers are going to be very expensive to replace.
I was thinking about trading my 23 GR86 SE manual for this. I went to a dealer but RC just didn't do it for me. It would be a step down in fun for sure. Love the looks of RC and that its a better daily but I would never be able to do in the RC what I can do in my GR86. GR86 is my 2nd car so it works out great because it can be a little tiring driving slow in traffic and the GR Exhaust make the car even louder lol. If you have just one car RC is probably a much more comfortable option. GR86 is amazing at high speeds a true sports car experience, low to the ground and light weight makes it an amazing handling vehicle. I tried a Supra and a 230i but they felt boring to me. GR86 is actually faster than people give it credit and is amazing to push in 3rd and 4th gears. I'd try to get the highest trim possible of GR86 the special edition one that's coming out if I were you.
How is the GR exhaust? I’m assuming this is the one that Toyota sells as an option for the car. Specifically does it drone a lot and does it improve the sound of the car? I’ve seen various videos on the GR86 and the boxer engine just doesn’t sound good to me. I do have to say that I prefer the sound of the car with the sound tube/enhancer removed, so I’d definitely do that, if I were to own one. If I do get a GR86 I think my first mods would be sound tube delete, OEM GR exhaust, and maybe an intake to enhance the engine sound from inside the car.
unplug the module in the dash, takes 2 seconds it disables the piped in fake engine noise. GR exhaust sounds great. It’s loud on cold start but after 10 seconds it’s programmed to go quieter. I have no issues with noise while cruising on the highway because the car is quick enough to just stay in 6th gear. Once in a while if you go crazy and hit the red line that’s when the fun starts lol.
Oh wow, I didn’t think it would be that easy to remove the fake engine noise lol. That’s cool though, how Toyota provides a nice sounding exhaust with the warranty perks.
I don’t think I can put links in a comment, but here are the part numbers for the OEM Lexus mods if this helps: Front brakes: 47730-24120 and 47750-24120 Rear brakes: 47821-24090, 47822-24090, 47830-24090, and 47850-24090 Lowering Springs: PTR07-24150 Rear Spoiler: PT29A2415002
I think the Genesis is a great car, in terms of value proposition and the features it provides. It’s just that I don’t really like the looks of the car. Especially the rear end, it looks a bit strange to me.
Good video with realistic expectations. I have driven my 2020 RC350 F sport for almost 56,000 miles in just over 4 years, averaging 31-33 mpg on the freeway and about 19-20 mpg just around town. Still on the front tires and should get about 60,000 miles on the fronts and the rear tires were replaced at 33,000 miles. Original rear brakes and fronts were replaced at 46,000 miles. No mechanical issues nor warentee issues in over 4 years. This is a great car for long distance driving, commuting and in sport + mode, rather rapid acceleration and is not nor will ever be a sports car. Too heavy but, I live in Los Angeles and maybe see another RC on the road about every 2 months for all years produced. BMW's and Mercedes are a dime a dozen. This a comfortable, quiet, problem free vehicle, and a keeper. If you want a true sports car, then purchase a sports car. I still get people giving me the high fives as the car remains a looker and will not be confused with any other similar car. If you are in your 20's and can afford the car, want speed and handling, don't expect the RC to do what an M2 or sporty type vehicle will do, but, if you are in you later 30's or up, and working, then this is a terrific commuting car and relatively cheap to keep, just routine maintenance. Your money, your choice.
Have 1 year w a 2021 blackline 350
Bad gas mileage
Slow-ish
Super comfy
Awesome AC/seats
The trackpad is awesome you don't have to move your body
Smooth
I got lexus racing aero stabs
Rear wing
Trunk won't open on its own w lexus wing
Car shoves in corners
Oil change every 16000
Ppf helps
Lights are amazing
Oil change every 16k is a bad idea.
@gabriellopez7184 I went for my first one after 8000km (bought used 22000km)
I thought i was very late already. I do motorcycles and cars at 7000km.
Then the dealership said we'll see you at 16000km. I was surprised. But the oil and schedule literature says so.
Really love what you did to your RC. I actually own one too, it's a 2019 model and it's AWD and lacks the triple beams. IMO the triple beams look ok but I think the stock lights on the refresh suit the car much better. Bought it certified used for 38k at 62k miles and it's been a year and I'm now at 78k miles on mine. It's been paid off completely and I'm gonna keep this as my daily until it won't run anymore. The only reason I went with AWD is cause I live in Illinois and AWD makes winters much more bearable. I've driven 6 speeds my whole life so I don't know how much I would've missed having that 8-speed like the RWD version.
I was actually in the same boat as you regarding the 86. I originally wanted a GT86 then GR86 but I just didn't know if I could live with the Subaru engine. No knock at Subaru but I'm paying extra for the Toyota badge, give me Toyota hardware damn it.
Your review is basically spot on. This is no sports car and people looking at this car as one will be disappointed. But for a reliable GT car that is comfortable and unique, this is a solid option. And again, the 2GR-FKS for a V6, it sounds great and gives me enough power to get into some trouble. If anything this car cemented my love for Lexus and made me realize GT cars fit my preferences and I'm looking forward to the day I can finally own a LC500. I love driving my RC because how often do you see a 2-door Lexus on the road?
Looking forward to where you go from here, 100% imo keep the RC as the daily and get the Miata.
That’s awesome! Have you had any issues or major repairs that’s been needed to the car, during your ownership? I’m curious what to expect in the future, once the car is at 60k-70k miles.
I’ve never driven the 6 speed version of the car, but most of the car reviewers who have done videos on the AWD RC, have mentioned that the 8 speed is quicker shifting. Given the area that you live in, AWD makes the most sense.
I definitely am planning on getting a sportier car in the future. I especially like the new ND3 Miata. The slight changes to the exterior, and the new infotainment screen, make it a bit more live-able/modern. It would be an amazing garage to have both a RC and Miata; GT car for cruising and sports car for back road fun.
@@bayareadrives There was a rubber seal issue near the windshield that the dealer replaced for us for free only because we've been Toyota/Lexus customers for so long and I did have to have a pressure valve replace and it was thankfully covered under the certified warranty.
Other than that my RC has been bulletproof. I think the pressure value replacement was just a freak thing. My next service I do need to replace my rotors, that's a grand I am not looking forward to dropping but I knew what I was getting myself into when I got this car. As long as you do the basics relatively on time the car will last.
And yeah the RWD version is a bit quicker, I think about 5.8 sec for the 0-60 compared to the AWD's 6 second 0-60.
I do want to ask have you tried Android Auto in yours? I missed out on it by literally one year which bums me out since I am an Android and not Apple user. I'm thinking about retrofitting a new screen so that I can have Android Auto and touchscreen.
@@bayareadrives One more thing I forgot to mention, the RCF rear cupholders do retrofit perfectly in the RC350. You might run into a slight issue if you do fold your backseats down where one side will go only 95% of the way down? But the extra slots to hold 2 extra drinks and whatnot more than makes up for it. It's the best 200 bucks I spent to make the RC that much more daily-able since I find the front cupholders are always occupied.
If you do decide to retrofit the RCF rear cupholders, order some spare clips, because they will break when you remove the rear seat.
That’s great to hear, that the car has been bulletproof besides some one off things. The brake pad and rotor replacements are something I am not looking forward to as well lol. At my last service, my brakes are at 8 or 9mm so I should be ok for some time.
I have an iPhone, so I haven’t tried out android auto. I have seen some people on the Lexus RC subreddit as well as the ClubLexus forums, where some owners have retrofitted the new screens onto their RC’s. Some owners have also bought third party adapters/software to enable CarPlay and Android auto, so that could be an option as well.
I recently saw a write up of someone installing the RCF cup holders on either Reddit or ClubLexus, it seemed pretty straightforward. I don’t think I’d do it on the car, as I rarely have anyone sit in the back seats, I either drive the car myself majority of the time, or I only have 1 passenger who rides shotgun.
@@bayareadrives Gotcha, I don't have an iPhone so i always wondered how the CarPlay experience is. I've been doing fine with just bluetooth and that gets me through the day. My rotors are I think at 4mm??? now so yeah they're due for a replacement soon.
And yeah I only did the cupholders because I kept running out of storage for cups and whatnot. It's really nice having that extra storage in the back since I can just toss a water bottle back there and not worry about it too much. Surprisingly the back seats have been usable and I've been able to carry people around for short trips.
PPF has certainly helped my car out, especially in the Bay Area! Parts of the 580, 880 and 101 all feel like rally special stages with the amount of rocks that get kicked up! Surprisingly few punctures in the film even after over 5 years, though I still get annoyed when it happens lol
I despise driving on 880, it’s like an actual war zone with terrible road quality and aggressive drivers. At least they finally are repaving parts of it, but I usually take the side streets most of the time to avoid 880 hahaha.
@@bayareadrives haha so true, I always avoid 880 if I can help it. It feels like Caltrans has been working on it for years, but it's still just as crummy as ever, and yeah the drivers there are something else lol
i agree the 2gr platform can feel unspirited compared to other cars in that price range but consider getting yourself a nice pair of coils, and maybe supercharge the car eventually. it would eliminate the negatives you're talking about and you would have something more unique
I think coil overs maybe my next move. The F Sport lowering springs have definitely stiffened up the car, but I still find there to be little to no difference in normal and sport + drive modes, in terms of suspension stiffness.
I feel like once I need to replace the dampers, I will switch to coils, since I’m assuming the OEM electronic dampers are going to be very expensive to replace.
I was thinking about trading my 23 GR86 SE manual for this. I went to a dealer but RC just didn't do it for me. It would be a step down in fun for sure. Love the looks of RC and that its a better daily but I would never be able to do in the RC what I can do in my GR86. GR86 is my 2nd car so it works out great because it can be a little tiring driving slow in traffic and the GR Exhaust make the car even louder lol. If you have just one car RC is probably a much more comfortable option. GR86 is amazing at high speeds a true sports car experience, low to the ground and light weight makes it an amazing handling vehicle. I tried a Supra and a 230i but they felt boring to me. GR86 is actually faster than people give it credit and is amazing to push in 3rd and 4th gears. I'd try to get the highest trim possible of GR86 the special edition one that's coming out if I were you.
How is the GR exhaust? I’m assuming this is the one that Toyota sells as an option for the car.
Specifically does it drone a lot and does it improve the sound of the car? I’ve seen various videos on the GR86 and the boxer engine just doesn’t sound good to me. I do have to say that I prefer the sound of the car with the sound tube/enhancer removed, so I’d definitely do that, if I were to own one.
If I do get a GR86 I think my first mods would be sound tube delete, OEM GR exhaust, and maybe an intake to enhance the engine sound from inside the car.
unplug the module in the dash, takes 2 seconds it disables the piped in fake engine noise. GR exhaust sounds great. It’s loud on cold start but after 10 seconds it’s programmed to go quieter. I have no issues with noise while cruising on the highway because the car is quick enough to just stay in 6th gear. Once in a while if you go crazy and hit the red line that’s when the fun starts lol.
Oh wow, I didn’t think it would be that easy to remove the fake engine noise lol. That’s cool though, how Toyota provides a nice sounding exhaust with the warranty perks.
can ya drop all the links to the products you added to the car??
I don’t think I can put links in a comment, but here are the part numbers for the OEM Lexus mods if this helps:
Front brakes: 47730-24120 and 47750-24120
Rear brakes: 47821-24090, 47822-24090, 47830-24090, and 47850-24090
Lowering Springs: PTR07-24150
Rear Spoiler: PT29A2415002
Can you please comment on the tire wear experience.
As of 13k miles, my front tires are at 8/32 and my rear tires are at 7/32 of tread. I think I can make these tires last 18k or so miles.
Maybe the Genesis G70 3.3T would've been the better pick for you.
I think the Genesis is a great car, in terms of value proposition and the features it provides. It’s just that I don’t really like the looks of the car. Especially the rear end, it looks a bit strange to me.
@@bayareadrives Yea, the Lexus looks much better indeed.