Botch - We Are The Romans [Full Album]
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2012
- Track Listing:
1."To Our Friends in the Great White North" 0:00
2."Mondrain Was a Liar" 5:11
3."Transitions From Persona to Object" 7:52
4."Swimming the Channel Vs. Driving the Chunnel" 13:57
5."C. Thomas Howell as the 'Soul Man' " 18:28
6."Saint Matthew Returns to the Womb" 23:12
7."Frequency Ass Bandit" 26:17
8. "I Wanna Be a Sex Symbol on My Own Terms" 30:45
9."Man the Ramparts" 34:20
10."We Are the Romans" 45:11
- Do you like maths?
- No.
- You son of a Botch.
My teacher told me to look this up. Cool
+TheFineBine you have an awesome teacher
+TheFineBine that teacher's name? John Cena
is he a math teacher?
nope a reading teacher lol
+sunn amps and smashed guitars Ha! Mathmetal, good one.
fucking undisputed classic... this album sounds and feels like the band were playing for their goddamn lives.
Seriously dude lol that's perfect your comment
agreed, i genuinely believe that some music is simply MEANT to exist and will tear it's way out in to the world straight through it's artists if it has to and all they can do is hold on desperately for the ride...
@@TheGrinderno1 You ripped the words out of all of our brains, you should write... for anything, music, lyrics, writing, journalism, poetry, just anything. Do it.
It's impossible to fault this album. Seeing them live with Dillinger in Camden will always be the greatest thing never recorded.
I saw them with DEP as well in Toronto. Dimitri had just left the band, but DEP played without him. The mic was passed around in the audience and people took turns singing. Nora was another band opening. Was my first time hearing Botch. 🤯
@@IBITMYWRIST OMG what year was that?
Saw them with DEP for their calculating infinity tour. Still have the poster signed by Dimitri.. we were like 15 pp! Tiny venue. Absolutely mind-blowing as you can expect. Autumn '99 or early 00s. Those were the days
@@antoniosassi3494 seeing DEP in late 90s like they’re some rookie band. This is crazy :D
Camden Underworld? I was there man
Theres a definitely a lack of this kinda thing nowadays. Bands back around the 2000's were seriously out for blood.
Idk bro. You listen to any powerviolence or grindcore (not the cheesy gore stuff)? I like this stuff too, and even saw Dillinger Escape Plan in '02. But haven't seen any genre go harder/faster/heavier/angrier than pv/grindcore.
of course, you should check a band called Secret Cutter. Probably my favorite up and comers to that genre.
There are bands like this still around, you're just not looking in the right places. Check out Axis, Baptists or Sumac. Even Norma Jean, who made a career out of aping Botch, still play a Thrice tinged version of this kind of thing.
Y'all need to listen to CAR BOMB
can now add vein to that list
cant imagine a world without Botch, DEP, Converge, Neurosis, etc
The singer of botch was the voice actor for the screaming chocolate guy in that one spongebob episode
For real?
I feel like i just got trolled big time
No, not really, but the idea of it is pretty funny.
Although that may not be true, it is true that Pantera had a song featured in a Spongebob episode "Death Rattle/Pre-Hibernation"
Spongebob is inspired by, among other things, Ween's 'The Mollusk,' which happens to be a very interesting and varied album, although not a particularly heavy one.
**fast angry twerking**
I love you.
🧡
Hmmm.. like ta see dat.
Been on one of those Post-hardcore binges lately, after years of being disappointed and underwhelmed by the more mainstream variants of the genre (pop screamo and emo pop) that got played on radio, TV and some video games. I gotta say, Mathcore and Skramz bands like Botch, Coalesce, Heroin and Orchid really hit the spot, that harsh noise tinged chaos and raw punk energy is real here and I swear the intro to Swimming the Channel nearly got me to a trance, more Mathcore bands like this please! Hails \m/
aw man...i dont want to be the nerd that goes on about genres or whatever but def orchid and emotional violence is not coalesce or botch, fucking great all of it but in its own area of punk rock for sure.
The Dillinger escape plan ma dude
Ya don't say?
The little slow groove from 10:56 to 11:11 is so fucking good. I really wish it was drawn out for a bit longer but I suppose its brevity may be part of its beauty.
if only it was tool, they woulda drawn it out for 13 minutes lmao
Just realized that a lot of post-hardcore bands I've listened in teenage years were inspired by Botch, but i never discovered Botch myself
had a similar thing ten years ago i finally got round to listening to Fugazi properly after years of listening to this and TAAS and all the other guys of that era. the "oh THAT's where it all came from...!" realisation. welcome aboard bro, better now than never. :)
@@TheGrinderno1 TAAS and MTB really helped lessen the blow when they broke up.
I was into drive like jehu because of my obsession with the blood brother in 2004.
Never connected the dots back to botch and only found them when I was talking music with a guy on a drive like jehu track.
This was only last year and now botch is back. I'm definitely going to be seeing them.
Same
Just found out about Botch through finding The Callous Daoboys recently and just realized the intro track to this album is sampled in a breakcore(?) album by a guy who goes by Drumcorps. Years later I make this realization, and this music is all such a good listen
In my personal opinion this is single handedly the most important album of the last twenty years.
28:50 - 30:44
GOOD LORD.
Still perfect after 13 years to me.
For me, 4:16 - 5:09
for me, 0:00-50:23
+MadDeuceJuice Funny man. That joke was funny the first billion times it was made.
The bass at 28:50 is siiiiick
It's hard to believe that this is 15 years old!
It's hard to believe that this album and Fight Club came out on the same year. Pretty mind blowing if you ask me!
Used to see them live quite a bit in the late 90's. Makes me feel old.
i always think of my age next to that of Pretty Hate Machine cause we came out at the same time. 30 next year, jesus christ
Listening to albums on UA-cam is kinda like the digital version of vinyl. you can't just press the skip button.
With youtube time stamps you can now. Also high end turntables were capable of it I used one for pirate radio before. Though all you have to do on a basic one is just set the needle in the right spacing.
Wat? I've always skipped on YT
This is such a fucking stupid comment, lmao.
you can also just not press the skip button on streaming lol
No arguing, Converge's brother.
I always thought they sounded more like Coalesce tbh but both bands are amazing either way.
@@ChrisXMetal I'll have to check Coalesce out, indeed, great bands, we should be grateful we got to hear their distinct and unique sound in our lifetime
Sol Faur Spurcatu If you like Botch, I think you will like Coalesce. Give Them Rope is a classic.
@@ChrisXMetal Checked them out. Great band, thanks a lot!
Sol Faur Spurcatu Awesome man. I’m glad you liked them!
I forgot how much I love this album..
dude w the richard james logo pic on the botch album fuck yes
one of the most underrated heavy bands. This stuff is like 2 decades ahead of its time :0
+Andrew Scott Listen to some 90s post-hardcore, it's pretty much the same style but with more raw vocals.
I've listened to some converge and to some of the screamo that came out of that era, can you point me in the direction of some dope bands?
check out The Crownhate Ruin - Until The Eagle Grins, and Frodus - And We Washed Our Weapons In The Sea
Kiss It Goodbye - She Loves Me... , Playing Enemy - Cesarean, Shora - Shaping The Random, Deadguy - Fixation on a Coworker.
oh yeah i forgot about shora nice one bro
“American Nervoso” and “We are the Romans” are two of the most brutally rewarding albums I’ve ever heard, this band is absolutely incredible. Nothing beats old school metalcore/mathcore in my book.
0:00 To Our Friends in the Great White North
5:11 Mondrain Was a Liar
7:52 Transitions From Persona to Object
13:57 Swimming the Channel Vs. Driving the Chunnel
18:28 C. Thomas Howell as the "Soul Man"
23:12 Saint Matthew Returns to the Womb
26:17 Frequency Ass Bandit
30:45 I Wanna Be a Sex Symbol on My Own Terms
34:20 Man the Ramparts
45:11 We Are the Romans
Thanks for stating whats in the description...
TonysTwistedTake i know what he did. The description says the exact same thing and allows you to jump from song to song.
Jack Heet I've been listening to this album through this exact video for over about 2 years now and the description never used to have the song timings in there.
time stampers are basically the only people who get a thumbs up from me. thank you for your service, i salute you
Best track on the album every track is the best track on the album
One of the best records in music history
Best Heavy band for me ever, how to blend groove and quirkiness, imagination, aggresive, energy with clear design to the chaos love it, biggest influence other than tool on my own riffs with my band
My pupils dilate every time I listen to this album
lol serious? or sarcasm.
my sphincter dilates
The pupil is actually considered a sphincter
I wouldn't want to fuck a pupil
@@themagus517 Junji Ito: **hold my beer**
botch is back !!!! they just released everything on spotify & under sargent house
?
@@colins7771 They were signed so they can re-release their albums + merch this year
@@prlysis cool stuff, I love Botch
Yeahhhhhhhh🕺🕺🕺
The instrumentation on this album is ridiculous... never got into hardcore/post-hardcore until now, and this is... refreshing.
+Justin Wilson album is basically the epitome of all things "post-hardcore". I think this was even the genre-defining moment when this album dropped; alright we'll add Converge to the list for good measure. Beautiful album tho
@@camouflagedgoon7987 converge has done so much over the years. Not many lists they dont top.
@@camouflagedgoon7987 this really was a genre defining album. I think even Converge took a lot from this album. This album definitely integrated the spacey atmosphere that a lot of post-hardcore flavored metalcore would adopt in the 2000's and bands like Norma Jean and The Chariot wouldnt even exist without this album.
GOD the breakdown in To Our Friends In The Great White North is so fucking meaty. One of, if not the greatest I've ever heard.
One of the greatest heavy moments ever put to record IMO
00's Carbomb
Love it
lol Carbomb is actually a 2000's band and Botch is a 90's band i but i get what you're saying.
The band Neck is 90's Carbomb
@@indridcold1206 and Frank Zappa is 70's Carbomb
A corner stone of art and math, this record was an event before your eyes and ears. I saw them on this tour and it shook me.
This album is a masterpiece . Best band that I have ever seen live.
I saw these guys in somebody's basement in Rochester, ny a long ti
me ago. It was awesome.
Wish I was around to see em live.
However, the bassist has been playing with Russian Circles, and those guys have made some great stuff. I have no excuse not to see em live at this point.
@@honeycomblord9384 im gay
have you seen them live yet
@@zerkinit1057 that makes two of us lmao
but anyways, I haven't caught em live yet
@@honeycomblord9384 not sure if I communicated very well that I meant Botch -- have you seen them live yet? they're on tour if you didn't know
Some classic reggae right here!
The 3rd track always makes me break out into this crazy futuristic robot dance.
I know it sounds trivial but that's a neato album cover. It's very unique and atypical of a punk/metal band. The perspective of looming skyscrapers somehow compliments the music.
Underoath The Changing Of Times
it reminds me of the Matrix
@@TheDarkblue57 one of my favorite album covers
imagine sitting on the edge of the roof of a tall building while listening to this... the ideal scenery
I've been trying for ages to figure out what that almost-bulls-eye mark on the left of the cover is.
Tomorrow 20 years. I first listened to this IMMENSE record in 2001 and when I listen to songs such as "Swimming The Channel Vs Driving The Chunnel" or "Saint Matthew Returns To The Womb" or "C. Thomas Howell as the 'Soul Man' " or... well you know the fucking entire album... :-o ... I feel Botch are terribly missing in music today... :-/ hell how much I miss them...
Timeless classic.
Best metal album ever!!! People that don't like Botch were/are dumb
You could be more redundant, metal album
One of the best albums of all time.
They are coming to Japan on tour this September and we are very much looking forward to hearing them play!
JAPAM
A classic in every sense of the word.
Holy fuck, why hadn't I heard of these guys earlier?!! Immense record!
Sonicspeed3000 same here
The mainstream watered this great subgenre down.
These shows were some of the most fun of my life
The evocation of sounds that still thrum feelings that are not given legitimate standing without a word to define
This album got taken off Spotify 😭😭
And Apple Music, like wtf???
That’s why I’m here 😒
I’m pissed about it
Whyy?
All of their stuff did
Minus the Bear is my favorite band. Looking forward to listening to this...
I just struck gold with finding this band!
This fucking masterpiece was removed from streaming services literally a week after I discovered it, so hyped it's finally back
Totally in love with this record, one of my favorites.
10/10
First time listening to this band, sounds great!
i just checking these guys out from a DEP fan comment
BTW yes i is college studently & studly
Eric Lamb It's nice to see late 90's hardcore getting recognition, but I never see anyone mention Candiria, 300% Density and Process of Self-Development are incredible.
luke666808g excellent bands. Yeah they kind of get drowned out by all the other "great" "post-hardcore-mathy-metal bands" of that era. But definitely worth a listen as well. Did you know Candirias's tour van flipped over and they almost all died? no shit man :D
Camouflaged Goon
Yeah I read about that after "what doesn't kill you" came out, I went online to bitch about the lack of jazz on the album and then people were like "yeah they almost died and the shock of that made them abandon their signature sound", which made absolutely no fucking sense to me.
I blame that tour bus accident for Candiria falling into obscurity, they would not have tried to switch things up and be just another hardcore band if it weren't for that.
the way this band sets the atmosphere is unreal, rare you hear that in metal nowadays, someone going for setting the mood, but the mood can easily be the most memorable thing about an album.
Only here after the Punk Rock MBA Underoath video. Omg everyone ripped this band off 😎😎😎😎
I will never stop listening to this album.
Picked up this cd at my local record store for six bucks, i look online and people are selling it for 80 bucks
I'll give you 5$
I know this is an old comment, but same. Bought mine at a slackers for $6 maybe.
the highest price on any vinyl variant I could find was $380US. absolutely nuts.
I bought it for $15 at eBay that contains the bonus disc
I have two of them....
jesus christ i didn't know metal could go this hard
I saw them once in Rotterdam as support for TDEP, they kicked TDEP asses and I am a big TDEP fan as well.
Legit has me listening to whole album just to wait for man the ramparts cause of how good this band is.
2022 and this is still in my rotation! Thank you, Botch!
Holy shit I remember discovering this while listening to random stuff at Gibert Joseph on Saint Michel, Paris when it was released. Takes me back!
botch fucking invented mathematicssssssss !!!!!!
Very unique sounding hardcore. They're not fast, but they play odd shit and make it sound like someone fucked up, but then you think and realize that they all made the same fuck up in sync. Pretty rad!
Math met
@@coryhophood2877 mathcore
I always have a difficult time explaining mathcore outside of time signatures but I'm gonna use this one 👍
One of the few albums i'll put on and let it just play out. Every song is an absolute killer. Glad this exists it makes not knowing what to play somewhat simpler
The guitarist went on to form a band called Minus the Bear.
Which I enjoyed, somewhat.
Not nearly as much as Botch..
@@TheChopLobster Since they split, i hope Botch makes a comeback.
Very different from Botch but also a great band. I've loved both bands since high school (2004/2005ish) and I actually never knew this fact until like 5 years ago lol.
Didn't These Arms Are Snakes come from this band as well?
@@misterscarisma them and russian circles
Tim Latona was a great drummer dadgum!!
exactly what my brain needs now
I also checked this out based on a comment posted from a DEP fan... I must say
that I LIKE IT! Now, we can debate all day and night about what exactly constitutes
"metal", "progressive", or "mathcore" but personally I think the whole subgenre
discussion is a waste of time. Of course I don't want to take anything away from
those of you who enjoy classifying the hard and extreme but wouldn't it be easier
just to call it all "hard" music instead of haggling over the subtleties of the bands
that play this style. Wow, these guys f---ing rock!
Hard dreampop maybe?
this is a question i see asked really often and a sentiment that even many bands (including this one) share but maybe i can shed some light on why classification is important. In a general sense it is a way of understanding/breaking down the music that you are hearing. More practically it is a way for people to discover music that they like and understand what it is about that music that is so enthralling. The facets that make up/are common in a particular type or of music (ex. blastbeats, palm muting, distorted vocals etc.) also help break down the history and progression of music by allowing people to make connections between genres. I will admit that it probably seems not worth it when there are so many people who argue vehemently about genres and use them and their knowledge as a sort of mark of status. the reality of this, as is the reality with just about any negative human interaction, is that you are seeing the vocal minority. People like that arent worth your time (i know how cliche and pedantic this is to say but its still true).
You make a very good point, and maybe the
whole subgenre discussion makes for good
dialogue between the different camps. Speaking as a musician I find it increasingly
difficult to use labels since there is so much
cross-over style-wise. And yes, classifications can be helpful when seeking
out new music but I certainly wouldn't want
anyone to be put off by something based on
a label. I've often found it useful to just say
"You might like this, check it out." rather than
attempt to describe (inadequately, in many cases) what I am listening to. That being said
I totally agree with the idea of classifying as a
means of making connection between genres.
Maybe I just like to paint with broader strokes
because it's easier for me, I certainly don't
expect anyone to follow my lead. You've
given me quite a bit to think about, thank you!
Ben weinman: This is cool, we should do that.
Ben weinman in 2020: Can't believe we started out as a Botch/Deadguy clone......
I mean they were pretty distinct from botch
yeah they were both mathcore but played a pretty different style
Quite the perfect album. Every time something new to discover.
Masterpiece.
Raw and visceral every time. An absolute classic.
St. Matthew RIPS. The riff at 25:13 makes me want to break everything
I'm reading 'No Country for Old Men' whilst listening to this. I am scared.
😂
lol
loved it the first time i heard the album. i was really into DEP and skycamefalling at the time. These guys fit right in. If you're not familiar with SCF please listen to their album "10.21". its a masterpiece.
I agree ! Skycamefalling was a helluvaband :)
Another forgotten classic of an album, really love how much ground they cover on it. Very memorable!
I saw them in the 1999 at CPA, the old Social center of Florence... They played with Dillinger, one of the best concerts ever!!!!
god the bass is fucking orgasmic on this one
Dude this it's of another world,so awesome.
this shit is wild how good it was for its time. Never knew bout this band until 2021 LMAO, grew up with bands that they influenced though
Best. Band. Ever.
Perfect for drowning out your co-workers bullshit
There really isn't a lot of music like this that I enjoy. At all. But there has always been something about Botch, especially this front-to-back-amazing album known as We Are The Romans, that pull on my heart strings and beat on my eardrums. Beautiful chaos.
C'est juste toujours aussi énorme !!!
This record gives me the chills, what a chef-d'oeuvre
This is still gold
I love this album so much.
Whenever post 2005 scene-y comes up on Facebook, I immediately think Botch and Converge - that is all that will ever matter to this genre
don't forget Coalesce!
Dillinger
So much good. I can't handle
Timeless, absolutely flawless and without peer.
I'm going to want to listen to this again.
Mind blowing!!!
Cultissime, et dire que je les vu en live au Fuzion de la Roche sur Yon il y a 23 ans ! Magistral !!!
Eventually the hate nerd army will stop, until then just enjoy underground music that few people sought out and get to enjoy.
This is what i call an album worth checking out
one of my favorite
a lot of awesome noise/mathcore albums were dropped in '99 but Botch carved their own notch with making it an art form (IMO).
THANK YOU
I thought Dillinger Escape Plan was the only great metalcore band, then I found Converge. And just when I thought I'd heard it all, I find this.
@wat3rbite thanks brother
Oh come on, all the bands you mentioned were influenced by Rorschach and Deadguy. There's also plenty of other great bands like Kiss it Goodbye, Coalesce, Bloodlet, Gaza, KEN Mode and then some...
@@munyansebastien7127 A band's influences or inspirations have little to do with how great they are. I've been waving the Deadguy flag since the 90's (and I'm from NJ) but those bands never wrote an album as great as We Are The Romans or Jane Doe. There are a ton of bands that are worth checking out, but one shouldn't dig into the pile with an expectation of finding any albums more stacked than those two.
@@Polyinstrumentalism I beg to differ: I definitely rate Fixation on a Coworker and Protestant above those albums.
thanks for sharing
Best album ever
Literally pressed play because the name sounded great. 10/10 decision. Thanks!
still the best after all this time
this is some math core
Best mathcore album ever made