How The Simpsons IGNORED Maya (Moe's Fiancé)
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In this episode of The Simpsons Theory, we look at the disappearance of Moe's fiance, Maya.
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Hi Lydia!!!!
You should do a review on the new Simpson short, and the family guy appearance in it
EXCELLENT WORK. THE SIMPSON THEORY LYDIA WHAT HAPPEN TO MAYA
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If characters that were previously known for being single, such as Apu and the comic book guy, managed to get a permanent wife for the rest of the series, why can't Moe have that chance?
Ikr!! I freaking love Maya
Apu being alone didn’t define his character like it does for Moe. Unfortunately the status quo says Moe has to be miserably alone.
Reminds me of Johnny Bravo's girl friend in that Valentine's day special.
@@AWriterWandering Moe has the Spider-Man writers controlling his life 😂
Because Moe ''joke'' i about him bieng depressed and lonely, so if ihe is not lonely anymore..sometimes i can'tignroe how Moe aged badly,worse he became a patter to be repetead,a lot of sitcons started making joks with depressed characters an to lan it not that bad make then disgusting as moe
Plot twist: she's been behind the bar the whole time.
I feel like that's the kind of joke they would make. She hasn't been absent, she's just been below frame.
But yeah I'm happy to hear she's returning.
Lol reminds me of how nobody saw Homer talking to Ray
I was thinking the same thing, it would have been a funny twist if it turned out she was always there, we just couldn't see her because she was short
Came here to say this. Lol
That would be awesome 😂❤
I get that this would be another joke about her height and some wouldn't like that..... But I think it would actually be funny and that if she's still a strong girl whose able to handle things herself and can take a joke, then it should be fine.
Finally talking about Maya... but they could still have Moe deal with relationship issues to keep it interesting
Exactly. I myself can relate to Moe and I am sure many others can too. Going from what he used to be to becoming a stable partner gives a good premise for an episode.
Exactly. It's Marvel's logic with Peter Parker; they think being married means you have less problems and unrelatable, which is bullcrap.
I think the weirdest thing about Maya not returning is she isn't voiced by some big guest voice, she's voiced by a series regular. And as you mentioned, Kumiko reappeared a lot, and up until 2021, they shared a voice actress.
It reminded me of Zoidberg in Futurama who finally found love. I was sad we didn't see her again, but assumed it was because she was voiced by Emilia Clarke. Nothing holding Maya back like that.
The dark explanation here is that Moe is a serial killer… and every time he meets a woman who says yes, she mysteriously disappears
I think they're missing the mark by not exploring depression a little further with Moe. Depression doesn't just go away when someone walks in to your life. A question many depressives ask themselves on a regular basis is "I have everything I want - why am I still unhappy?" It might be a bit heavy for the show, but I think an episode or even just a B plot acknowledging that Moe is wrestling with his feelings would help to add some much-needed depth to a condition that the show has played for laughs for so long.
this!!! That would be so cool! And we could see him actually getting help with Maya at his side
Yea but Moe's depression has always been heavily influenced by the fact he is alone and lonely.
I find some people are depressed about specific things, some people have a chemical imbalance which are the people who don't know why they feel depressed. Lastly there are people who have chemical imbalance and has things in life on top of that which depress them. That is just always how I have seen it.
In fact when I used to go to the doctors they told me they were not for people like me because it takes to long and costs to much money. They are there for people who have specific problems which are making them depressed which the doctors are able to address and send them on there way quickly.
He told me the system isn't made for people with more severe mental health problems. It is made for those which are the easiest to help so the numbers look good. They are only supposed to see someone for therapy for 8 to 12 weeks otherwise the person is considered to expensive and the money could be used in someone who can get better more quickly. It's really sad that the people worst off are least likely to get help in ontario at least
Honestly, the best solution can be saying Maya has to travel a lot for work so Moe is often on his own a lot. They are still together and very much in love they just have to balance their relationship around their work lives and Moe has to handle being away from his partner for long stretches.
Not a perfect use since we do want her to evolve into her own character beyond Moe since we do need some good dwarf rep in media. This is just my idea on how to handle this thing.
Exactly! They could do that instead of pretending she doesn't exist at all. And just because Moe is married doesn't mean they can't make jokes about his other quirks.
If that new Maya episode splits her up with Moe again I will be so mad
Upsetting to know she just disappeared.
Moes back to being lonely
A status quo Moe for the status quo show
@@josephboehmer1245true
it's been confirmed that she's returning
@@nebulaquaticYep, I'm happy that's happening!
I'm pretty sure sh will be back jsut to end ther relationship aain
I get the feeling they want to keep Maya for an event. Like they plan to make some episode about their wedding or something related. Something about Moe getting cold feet and wondering if he deserves a happy ending, or if he's so used to depression, he fears happiness. The only two things I can think of keeping the character away is either they show's stories are non-linear or that Maya lives far enough away that they don't see each other often. Come to think of it, Moe hasn't been bottom of the barrel depressed since that episode where they got engaged. Maybe they're just working things out with how Moe would be if he was happily married or at least in a relationship.
I miss Maya she was such a fresh breath of air she made me happy when i saw moe happy
Ever since they started the "Moe is depressed and gross" shtick since i was a teen 20 years ago, I've never liked it. To me, it's boring, un-funny and over-done. It would be so much interesting adding a feminine touch to Moe's bar and seeing how she adapts to the place and how she changes it in her own personal way. It'd be super interesting seeing a permanent addition of a little person into the Simpsons too and how they live in the world on a daily basis and the personal challenges they face. That status quo is becoming an absolute curse to the show. I didn't realise how much Maya being shelved bothered me until you brought it up. And I hope they bring her back.
Yo Phantomstrider woo!!!!
Is quite weird weird how they chose to do this. Give Moe an episode were he reconnect with his Ex and at the end proposed to her and nothing never comes from it. I mean when Ned and Edna and Comic Book Guy from married that was an huge shift in the show for these characters they were now married with wives. Yet nothing yet came from Moe proposing to Maya yet. Are they holding off on it? Or did they simply just forget?
I’m pretty sure Maya is a victim of the Apu falllout, the show is afraid of being accused of mocking little people so she had to go.
Highly doubt that. Maya wasn’t a caricature at all, unlike Apu
Yeah the first episode she was in was basically a bunch of little people jokes but that wasn't really the case for the episode where they got back together; her height was I don't remember even being mentioned at all it was all about Moe being worried he's going to fuck up again
But what exactly are they doing to mock little people exactly? If anything, they are showing that average sized people can date even little people and have a happy relationship. Thats positive, is it not? Or will Peter Dinklage, aka Grumpy, come out of his golden mansion and declare his greed of being the only little person holywood should bow to?
GREAT VIDEO.
@@liamhiggins7955 That was the point in the first episode though, because Moe is a good guy at heart but a rude person. I think the theme of the episode was about Moe being the resident awkward person in society meeting someone similar to him in context.
Same thing happened to Comic Book Guy.. Kumiko was hyped up and turned into a background character after her appearance.. they both became lesser seen characters..
Maya hasn't appeared at all
@@joseaguilar3323 I haven't been able to watch any of the newer stuff because I don't have Hulu.. but I did see the Season 33 episode (I think it was) and that was the last time I saw her..
Moe finally getting married made me cry. Maya is such a great person for him, if Moe becomes lonely again then we need to protest for Moe.
I like to think Mya was always there she was just out of Frame or behind the bar and we just can’t see her because she’s short
If they are going to bring her back, actually use her
She'll be back next season
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 I know, I did watch the video
If any Simpsons character deserves happiness that lasts after the episode ends, it's Moe, and I'm glad a relationship finally worked out for him. And yeah, surprised we haven't seen more of Maya. I could understand a guest star, but she's voiced by longtime regular Tress MacNeille (Agnes, etc.)
Ever since seeing TheRealJims' "Selmoe" video, he convinced me that Selma and Moe would be great together, especially since Homer would hate that pairing.
And it could have created several seasons worth of funny material and interesting character dynamics previously unseen before.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks Selma and Moe would be great. Heck, they're essentially just genderbent versions of each other, so seeing them being cynical together and making Homer uncomfortable would be great imo
plus it’d make for an amazing episode
Surprisingly wholesome episodes for Moe and Maya, with a cool new character, and good character progression. So sad they just ignored it
Maya is such a sweet character, and I would love for her to remain the bright spot in Moe's life after all these seasons.
13:09 Yes, Moe was fantasizing about Marge, but a few seconds into the fantasy it changed by Marge saying “Moe I love… the way you introduced me to this new guy” (or something like that). This really shows how Moe has changed even if Maya hasn’t actually shown up in a while.
I saw it another way, I saw it that Moe still fantasised about Marge, but even in his fantasy she still chose someone over him
Maybe their engagement was reconned in some way. Also your channel is keeping me updated with all the latest simpsons news
0:49 “hello your quite good at turning me on” 😂 I love that scene from the show. Mr burns is my all time favourite
No Rupert on the desk?
Not for The Simpsons desk :)
@@TheSimpsonsTheory ah. My bad. I may have been partaking in something green whilst watching. 😋😁
@@tenebrousoul9368You eat money while watching videos? Look at the Mr. Burns-type over here!
Don’t blame the grass.. lol
But we have the Ruhrpott
I love this episode thanks for addressing this! But could you do one about Colin? That kid from the movie that was Lisa’s boyfriend. Thanks love the channel! 😊😊
Ive been waiting for this video forever. Ty
Love these vids! Been binging all day so was happy to see this!
viewed when you had posted it 2 mins ago, love watching these thumbs up
They can keep the dynamic they have with Moe while keeping Maya around. She can cheer him up when he gets upset. They could also have fun together every now and then. She can still be the only person in town who likes him.
They so need to bring Maya back, she really was best thing that ever happened to Moe and he deserves some happiness in his life after all this time.
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Nope, not forgotten. A warranted video still, but she’ll definitely be back next season
Moe’s biggest character trait the writers play off and joke about is his loneliness so they couldn’t let him be happy
They can use his other character traits.
great video, loved the burns screensaver very nostalgic
I have been waiting for this
Maybe its hard to think of what to do with Maya's character herself, because he exists as more of a plot device, and to be taken seriously as a little person and doesn't have a silly quirk about her to play off of. I think they need to expand Maya and give her something to write comedy off of outside of Moe and unrelated to her being a little person.
Awesome as always thanks ❤ i hope they bring her back
You only get one chance with Edna Krabappel
Great video i really enjoyed it
The reason nobody much remembers what Belle's husband looked like is that the audience fell in love with the Beast.
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I'm so happy they are bringing Maya back. This will probably make or break the relationship and we'll finally have closure.
Like a lot of us, I hope she stays. For one, it'd be easier to put her in episodes since Tress MacNeille is a regular cast member compared to a guest star of the week. And Lydia, the way you described Moe being perpetually miserable made me think of what Marvel has done to Peter Parker in the comics since 2007. In both cases, they deserve a happy ending.
The episode was actually a dream Moe had while writing one of his letters
As someone who has related to Moe more and more as I get older and have trouble finding my happy ever after I hope Maya stays. I really hope the two stay together for the rest of the show and be happy.
I really liked Mia, it was really the first time you saw Moe truly happy.
And they did work as a couple, that first episode always made me a little sad because they didn't work out.
Especially the ending conversation with Homer the realization that Moe had found someone that loved him,
Was both heartwarming and Sad.
I hope Mia comes back and her and Moe can get married and live happily ever after.
Moe deserves a happy ending.
Its really cool to watch these videos about characters disappearing withought being brought up again
Why not put a fishbowl on the desk with Blinky in it
Love the vid and set up and god I want moe to be happy he’s close to my heart as he said “not today my friend but the holidays are coming soon”
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I think the simplest explanation is that maybe the writers were kinda iffy bringing her back since she kinda looks like a kid and having her be around Moe would make things look very awkward, maybe she'll get a redesign for her next appearance to make her look more adult
Im hoping Maya returns in Season 36 as the rumors circulate. Love that gal❤ and tired of Miserable Moe Sizzlack! Also AWESOME SET UP LYDIA! ❤ Looks great!🎉
They're doing that to half the Family Guy and American Dad characters too.
Fingers crossed Maya’s upcoming return will give Moe the happy ending he deserves.
I wonder what her surname is? Hopefully it’s not “Buttreeks”
You know, It feels like whenever there's a new simpsons character that changes an old character's life, it feels like they're ignored for it could be like the episode restarted back to normal again
I know she's not in many episodes, but I feel like you ignored Manjula.
Manjula is part of the Apu removal since she has very few interactions without Apu and would just be a reminder of him missing.
Oh I did love Maya. Eager to see her come back in that apparent follow-up episode, whenever it may come out. Moe deserves a happy ending too for being one of the most prominent side characters.
Video idea: do a video of which characters haven’t gotten a story episode yet
I think keeping Maya around would be a massive boost to Moe's confidence. Plus, he'll have someone else to confide in when he's feeling depressed. Maya doesn't strike me as the kind of person who'd dump him over a mental health issue, so long as he's willing to heed her words and look for a therapist to help him cope with it.
It won't fix his mental state of mind, since a lot of depressives struggle with those emotions their entire lives. But he'll definitely be able to smile more and think about killing himself less.
Im glad Moe got Maya. I been happy for him this time and when Maggie got close to him. That one brought tears to my eyes.
Finally, Maya will return!
I always thought it was something similar to what happened to Apu. they did away with the character to avoid controversy, even if the the group the character represented wasn't necessarily portrayed in a negative way, but oh boy, thank goodness I watched the video until the end and saw there're actually plans to have Maya back
I can't believe this episode was SO good that Moe was nominated for an Oscar. Nice one.
My theory: maya is not real. It’s a figment of moe’s imagination/mirage/hallucination, because 1 he owns a bar so he gets them beer fumes inside him, 2 he’s been so lonely that he is going crazy, and 3 maya was moe’s imaginary friend because he’s just lonely and god said he needed a girlfriend. So i can conclude, maya was never real and even if the other characters saw her in the bar, they were probably customers who already drank and saw her through drunkness
"beer fumes"
@@Idranthe beer fume theory
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you know how to make it perfect?
if moe and maya became maggie's godparents
06:58 OMG that bartender joke caught me off guard!
They don’t want her for two reasons.
1. They want Moe to have the trope of being the pathetic, borderline psychotic loser who can’t ever win. That’s the joke.
2. They don’t want to add another permanent character to the show. Aside from the legal headache of contracts, they don’t want a character that they can’t just push into the background like they can for Comicbook guy.
Moe is a major, secondary character and they would have to write her into much more of Moe’s story then they want too.
Same reason they had to practically write out Abu’s wife and and family, despite still being a primary aspect of his story
Also what if they made maya good at making cocktails thus adding variety to modes tavern
I'm glad to hear that news about Maya!
Hopefully, she will stick around after.
Edit: and hopefully they can use the fact she had gotten her PhD in their engagement episode to explain her absence
When moe and Maya get together, I actually shed a tear it made me happy for our favorite bar tender
MAYA NEEDS MORE SCREEN TIME!
Maya and Ling back!
@11:56, you mean a PROPER parental figure. In the Season 16 episode "Sleeping with the Enemy", Moe tries to insert himself into Nelson's family by proclaiming the "Four Muntzes" are reunited after dating Nelson's mum for a short while (the scene also had Nelson's dad in it)
Yes, I have noticed that in the last 2 or 3 episodes Moe stated that he has no one & is sad and lonely. 😕
I loved her character! Super excited to hear she is coming back 🙂
Love the end of the Maya episode very uplifting
I just recently watched this episode (as I've been re-watching Simpsons since S01.) Maya was amazing. And was perfect for Moe.
"O Frajulous Day! Callou Callah!" Mr. Burns exclaimed this when he found True love on Flag day. One of the writers must really like Lewis Carroll's The Jabberwocky
For me, the mail order bride epsidoe and Moes relationship trauma was heart breaking.
Personally I think Moe deserves better that Maya, He did love her, but she was willing to leave him over miscommunication. He did not need to be short to be with her, he proposed to her before that. And in her second appearance, there was no apology for what she put him through, and was ready to leave him again without talking to him because of the trauma She caused him
I love moe and im soooo happy we got another video about someone whos with him
It's been a long time since I watched The Simpsons and I wonder what happened to Maya. Thanks for the video
Could you please also talk about *that* weird period when Milhouse was doing "that thing" during the end of 29th season and some bits of the 30th (and I guess on 31th too)?
I never understood why the series would take that road, and it was a relief that it ended 🤗😅.
I love Maya and Moe. When Moe blew it at the end of her first appearance, the ending was still bittersweet. Homer isn't usually a man with words of wisdom, but he really came through as Moe's friend. His dialogue about having one person who loved you means you can find love again, was a terrifc message. Probably one of my favorite heartfelt moments from the modern show.
Lol the mr burns computer schreen is legendary:)
So sad Moe has lost his "Wife" Maya.
Its such a shame that Maya has been so underused :(
I’m looking forward to a wedding episode. I have a feeling that’s going to happen sometime down the line. I like that they are giving more characters actual happy endings. I think Skinner definitely needs his next.
"And Maya was brought back by...oh I don't know...James Earl Jones"
You can do a video on Gloria, you know, she started out as Mr Burn's redemption love interest and the became Snake's girlfriend even though a little bit of the show's status
I always loved Maya, I thought her and Moe's relationship was so sweet! A character that is really rough around the edges finding love in a sweet and understanding lady who has her own challenges to overcome. I wish they would do more with her, now that Larry is gone (RIP Larry) maybe she can become more of a regular at the bar? They renovate like a walkway so she can be at eye level with the regulars, and has her own short-barrelled shotgun to match Moe's.
Just like simithers 0:50
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12:50 Precisely.
-> The "lone" days of Moe are over...
...when all the stories the writers NEED to tell (that require him as such) are told.
[Countdown to Infinite Crisis]
I was just thinking about them! Despite Moe being quite popular to ship with... at least 5 different people in my little corner of l'internet, I have only maybe seen like.... 3 drawings of Moe and Maya together. Sad. They're very cute. I'm more of a Moe x Barney person myself cuz I love some toxic old man yaoi lol, but I'm just happy when Moe is happy and Maya is very cute and I love her.
Love how despite Moe finding himself ugly, he has quite a lot of fans who find him adorable. Me included!
I just don't understand? Maybe they wanna milk the Moe-is-miserable jokes a bit more. You can make Barney the miserable lonely guy now, give him some more screentime while you're at it...
I thought maybe her exclusion is because they would be worried of backlash, considering she's a little person. Glad to know there's at least an episode in the works about Moe and Maya! Honestly it could go either way... it would be delightful if they ended up legally adopting Nelson after Top Goon. Buuuut that's maybe getting a bit too ahead of myself. I just wanna see more of Maya being a little quirky, like that one scene where she pretends to be a doll!
I can’t tell but something pretty fishy is going on, but like, I’m theorizing she’s just an imagination because Homer is still in a coma dreaming all these things, and why the pink car gets fixed up so quickly for the next episode, but like it’s just, yeah The Simpsons are really confusing.
Will you review the new episodes
I was looking at one of your videos about their finalized future and I saw on ned Flanders wall of wife’s I saw maya
I gotta commend Lydia for making a 15 minute long video about a character who hardly appears
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