60000 emeralds for one talisman. Enough said (even though I could say much more). It isn’t just pay to win, it is pay to even be able to remotely compete. I still do my dailies but I only focus on two existing teams and don’t spend a dime. I still rank in the top 10 on my server since I don’t waste time and resources on new heroes anymore.
they say jet is useless but won't allow us to evolve him with books, the greed is that and making heroes that are LIKE jet, can't be evolved yes i'm free2play but i earned up to my level over 2yrs of playing then you make heroes that can't be evolved regardless if you save?
One reason I'm less into the game now: we used to choose when we spend. Pick an event with good value, spend tons of emeralds and stockpile for the next week's or so. Now Nexters are constantly trying to force us to spend by making resources we have useless (Evo books, artefacts coins for new heroes,...) I don't even wanna take advantage of events to stock resources because who knows, maybe in the future, old skin stones or runes won't work on new heroes or some other BS. Same for titans, they changed it for Tenebris so that we couldn't save for it
They decided to make his weapon only obtainable with money and with golden pass (last levels). Result: I only got it to 3 stars, only titan I couldn't max the artefact weapon during the event...
Former Guildmaster, here. I didn't quit for any one specific reason, it was several: 1) Lara Croft event - drastic departure from previous 'new hero' events that rewarded 'the grind' for event materials. Seems like that was dropped in favor of just spending. 2) re-worked hero's pass. Again, no excuse for this. grinders/f2pers should at least be able to reach the 'end' of the pass on the 'free' side. 3) re-worked Gift of Elements - just goes to show poor design decisions early on in the game biting them later, and then the players having to pay for it. 4) Skyships - largely a grind for no reason. felt like an all-but abandoned game function as soon as it came out. miserable rewards for actually doing it. 5) Dark/Light titans - bad implementation here, too. decision to allow them to overpower earth/water/fire instead of balancing each other out was purely profit-driven. 6) Super Skins - old hat, but still irks me. glad they finally put them in the hero's chest, but releasing a new skin and simultaneously putting both it and the upgrade behind a pay wall was (and is) super sketchy. Overall, real reason I quit feels like a lack of imagination on the part of the game devs. instead of coming up with cool new game mechanics or ways to test out new/old heroes against new bosses, they just keep doubling down on more ways to spend on resources. Loads of other games do it better, and it sucks that cool creators like Charlie are getting anchored to sinking games like Hero Wars. I really hope he's got a Plan B.
u can cach up by investing in the corect heros but i wont say who because that whould put me in a disadvantage in the future , the game become to expensive and harder to level up heros in last 6 months
I stopped spending money but I think I spend around $250 total. No need to spend anymore money. You can catch up to the strong players when they decide to stop playing. lol My guild went from 5th to 3rd in the Gold League because the top teams kept dissolving.
my 2¢: the three things that thuck - totem drop rates - no titans/totems on the heroes screen - can't unlock raid by playing the game even when the longest part of the level is scene transition and loading time ⚔
@@jayakrishnanbalakrishnan3427 don't spend explorer moves till the last day of the map and make sure from leaks it isn't going to be the same map with a new island - literally go for 20k emeralds -> 500 titan spheres -> legendary gift of dominion in that order and only when you have enough moves to get all the way there - i had to force my only totem with bad luck protection and it's looking like that'll be how the second works as well (i'm easily 5k spheres in at this point with 0 gacha returns) - the thing i'll have to get back to you on is if the massive headache i've been giving myself to keep my fire team ahead of my water team so i don't get two of the same totem has been an absolute nightmare and i'm half expecting it to just give me a 2nd water anyway with the way they have bad luck protection worded
I have two big gripes. One's very specific, the other more general. 1. No confirmation to spend emeralds. A standard feature of most games. I believe there was a post from one of the community managers about a year ago saying that this was coming. 2.Nexters pushing us to waste resources investing in heroes we have no interest in so that we need to spend more (or any). These "sets" that came out a month or two ago are the latest example. "We'll give you more story if that's what you're into, but you have to level trash heroes along with the good ones".
Agreed, the should have just apologized for the error! And they are way to stingy Also everything else you can eventually get for free, but not all tailismans, only some, which is ridiculous.
There is now far too much to do in a short space of time, (I only have about an hour in total to do everything, and as you have to log in several times per day, its a scramble to get everything done), which has stripped any semblance of fun from the game.
And as a new player I've seen how team level is tied to gold that never flows as fast as all the leveling you have to do. So to get hero items for promotion, you have to raid the campaigns and that increases level. It's not a problem for someone that has a 130 level team on every character. It's easy to see the design is to collect a majority of the money in the first few months of play. The say their deals are worth >$250 and then discount them 80-99% so that you'll budge.
Rewards from the Tower is not random. It is skewed toward Tower Coins. This mornings raid yielded not one gold reward with 2/3 being Tower Coins. Frustrating...
Well, i said it before : the game is , STILL, amazing, BUT, it, slowly, becoimes a money grab game, with less rewards, and more expenses that will not help as much ! ... 😐
Constantly adding new things and then don’t continue with them and let them ‘dry out’. 1. Harbor - the council of champions, still being locked since the start. 2. Gate - still no new levels since coming out. These game modes have been, in my opinion, useless. However, I continued to get involved with the promise of new things coming with them. Instead they have been forgotten about and no news on them since them being released. They have just focused on grabbing as much money as possible off players. There are so many more things I could mention but I feel this is something everyone has forgotten about and needs addressing!
I do not know about alliance version, but in dominion era versionthey should call it "Dante wars", not hero wars. with the introduction of flags there is a dante team that is almost unbeatable, and can kill one shot almost any tank, any team.. honestly not so fun Generally speaking Dante is an hero that should not be used as tank, but if ou use frontline, with right support, is by far strongest than any other
@@pattyatpal not within the first 1,5 years of playing. I think he is maybe on a newer server. There its Dante tank over Dante tank. Thats also logical. You only need to put all your ressources in 1 Hero and you will do well in Arena and GW... Dante is way to strong in early and midgame. Way better than any other hero.
I think this is about the only thing mobile does better. The teams are pretty balanced and fun to use and figure out counters for. But that being said, mobile overall is in a pretty bad place right now
The dante team: dante nebula sebastian iris martha is just very very strong. And Dante with a lucky crit is allways a problem. The other reason is osh. You got 3 of 5 heroes already leveled. add jhu/lara and isaac and with 7 heroes you can compete in arena and go do good damage at osh. As a start dante team is just too good. The problem is, people dont realize that getting 5 heroes up to a good level or max takes forever!!! so you are stuck with your choice forever!
I honestly think mobile is about dead. It’s very counterintuitive with how much they’ve incorporated p2w into the game, but it might honestly be the best time to be a free to play player. If you’re free 2 play, you can play for a LONG time and still have things to achieve and a long journey ahead of you with attainable goals. If you spend money on the game, it wears itself out VERY quickly. If you get to the top guild in your server, you run out of goals to achieve pretty quickly. It’s sad how dead global wars is ☹️. That used to be probably my favorite thing in the game! Now, in 2 months on a newer server, you can jump all the way to the second best league because there are so many empty and non active guilds. Combine that with the fact getting to #1 guild overall is pretty much impossible unless you spend ridiculous amounts of money, and you just get stuck in this state of feeling like you’ve done everything you can basically do in the game even if technically you haven’t. They really need to fix global wars or do something to make it more competitive or players lack a reason to play. I think global wars though is also a very big indicator on the state of the game and how many players have quit and all nexter does is try and make the game more expensive so the elite players keep spending but it’s really ruining the game.
I said this to some guild mates, as more and more people start to leave, Nexters will start to try and get even more money from those that are left. The new 'Asgard' ticket is a perfect example of this. I never spent much money on this game, I occasionally buy emeralds when they are 5X, but that is getting rarer and rarer, me buying them that is. I used to have Valkrie's Favour but stopped that at Christmas. I never buy Golden Tickets and never will.
It's not even enjoyable at that point. I was there, I did it. When you get to the top of the top all it amounts to is hours of training on one hit to make sure you don't miss and cost the team a couple points. The hundreds of battles in training both forward and reverse even made being among the best of the best completely unbearable. I enjoyed the people, but the game was expensive and unenjoyable. I deleted and walked away and do not regret it AT ALL.
@@KyleH-xc9cz yeah, I feel you! They really have made this game so amazing in some ways but VERY VERY VERY bad in too many ways to make it worth playing for most players.
Coming to this last event, I saw nebula as a hero i could level up to 120 and finally get her talisman.. to find out she needed to be lv 120 BEFORE the event. I mean, why can't I level her up during the event and get her talisman??!!😡 Very disheartening 😔
These bastards have not even acknowledged or done anything about the fact that I cannot attack Osh in my Guild for 8 weeks now. Before I even enter the Osh fights I am shown as Attacking and, consequently, I can't attack. I don't get any rewards, and I don't get my weekly Hall of Fame awards each week. I have seven open tickets with them and they WILL NOT DO ANYTHING, not even respond.
My peeves: 1) Incompetent rollouts - Castle bug was the most egregious, and the "fix" did not remotely even out for the vast majority who did not benefit. Moreover, it wasn't random who benefited: it was the strongest guilds that benefited more than anyone else. So the coiner guilds got even more. 2) Poor balance of heros. I have repeatedly complained that Dante is overpowered until people start getting max Ascension heros - nothing being done. Note this applies for newer servers where people are still building. As a result, everyone and their grandmother is playing Dante teams - all except the biggest coiners who have all maxed hero teams and can branch out. 3) Poor documentation. Do Titan 1st and 2nd artifacts actually do anything for combats against (not elemental opposite) titans? It is not clear and never will be. 4) Coiner/F2P imbalance. I understand Nexters wants to make money, but tipping the balance ever further in the coiners favor is going to make the game less fun for everyone involved. I personally am a "middle" coiner - I spend only on what I see as value, have a single spend cap and have no desire or need to Pay2Win, but this is why I can see both sides of the equation.
The stats of the two talismans do not stack. This means that the return of investment in these talismans is 50%. So I am not interestes at all in a second talisman, and I will leave it at zero!!!
Simply becoming too expensive, not just for P2P and P2W players, also for F2P players as you pointed how items in event shops went to SKY, become unbelievably expensive, things become expensive 3-4 times and we can still collect same amount of coins. Ridiculous.
since the newest patch, i crash 20-30 times a day, trying to do the dungeons and the new pvp. no help from devs, or Google, of course. just silence so far. its been a week.
Perfect deduction of what I'm going through Charlie... I've been thinking about quitting, because the work routine I do to make good progress in this game being 100% Free Player is getting heavy... losing sleepless nights to complete missions... but I do it for my guild friends that I met but more and more I've been feeling less desire and enthusiasm to play this game. When I saw these prices in the store, I thought it was because the "Way of progress faction" is very strong, and an event dedicated to them, but as I could see, you showed me that it is not. (Thank you for info 🙏) I barely do well in events and get many coins because there are missions with high energy costs, high emerald expenditure and even VIP points that limit me too much, now with these prices, it is unsustainable to get equipment for my heroes. (If it depends on spending 76000k coins or more than that on orange grade +4 items I will NEVER get them in any event I compete in, even dedicating myself completely... The recipes were good for my progress, but now, if this is the new standard of the game, it's a big madness... 😳 and I understand that with this, the game/creators want me to spend money on the game at any cost (or do you want to see me out of your game, since I'm a Free Player 🤔) I can barely get to the end of the Hero Way Free Pass like it was before... 🥺 And look, if these rewards are FREE, why is it a Free Pass, why can't we go all the way to the end and redeem everything??? In Draft Legends, they/creators say that "Absolute Star Heroes" are better than heroes with lower star levels, but many times, I'm being "Forked" by opponents with lower star heroes than mine (And this is very frustrating... 😤) I think the creators are not even afraid of a great decline in game, as they are billionaires in revenue and even if the game stagnates, for 100% free play players like me, they still have the "Whales" who continued to pay heavily for everything in the game. Free Player, has no value in today's games... Not even if you support the game every day or for years and years... 😭
Guys it is worth it buying the way of hero? Im kinda new so its 50% off. The only problem is that upgrading is sooo slow, im playing every single day since it came out and im still on level 11/55. It is possible to reach the level 55 in 17 days?
The Alliance team must be made mostly by trainees. They move them to FB/web after they got more experience about what NOT to do in the game at the expenses of the Alliance players.
first reason is cost as said by many other treads , i think thats surportet by if the devolepers come up with something it going to be something thats make more profits. i remember playing hero wars about 30 years ago , to my knowlegdes there havnt been many improvements exept from making the game more profitiable. in my opnion they should have realised that they had a good thing and taking some of their profits and invested it in the game , like better boss fights etc.. they could make voting polls in guilds , or other small things but no
I have never spent a penny on the game in 6 months - But I am nearly @ 130, I set up a guild, and now I am in the later stages of developing a meta & reserve team for the 2nd 6 months. But.....bugger me, getting to the next stage is looking impossibly tough. I never have any emeralds, cash is always £1M tops and I spend more days on total resource managment than I do actually enjoying the game. If it is a choice between spending my own cash on the game and getting out - see ya.....
I am considering leaving my Guild since guild quest daily energy spending was added in order to obtain prestige, I have to surpass my monthly game spending to fulfil daily campaign quests as there is no way to farm that amount of energy required every day which brings my monthly resources spending to around $50 to $60 a month on just energy which was not required before. I play the web version of the game & I find it very frustrating to level up Heroes, Pets, Titans at this pace. I think that is a huge mistake made by Hero Wars web as I am considering leaving my guild. Thanks for being a voice for all of us Charlie.
not sure how you do it, but I spend only on VF and I still can collect all daily rewards. I don't complete however the energy related defeat x opponents missions fully every day but you should consider there that campaign level 6 raids for 60 energies give the same progress as the higher level campaign missions for 80 or 100. You need to develop parallel 2-3 heroes, 1 lower level and higher level same time, if possible. It is indeed not possible to complete all daily missions fully. If your guild demands it, quit from there sooner than later. The prestige rewards are not that good to spend so much on this game, just to satisfy your guild.
You're focusing on the wrong task to complete Prestige and daily guild quests. I just play as normal and at the end of the day I focus on Chaos coins (pet) 250, Hero runes 2500, and spend Tournament coins 1200 (or you could do Essence of the Elements). The last two tasks I mentioned let you double dip. I always hit my daily guild quest max. All the other events like spending gold and healing are just stuff you get throughout the day. I don't even pay attention to it.
i'm not quitting but i will admit one thing nextar is doing thats pushing my buttons is, its trying to force the hand of free2oplay players, creating heroes when artifacts/resources are already hard to find and accumulate as is when you're not using real money BUT whats worse is creating new heroes that can't be maxed out eg lara croft etc, i can use evolution books in the old days now they are like jet, why? every hero will loos their top tier status anyways
My concerns with Facebook&WEB is COW is entirely dead if you a new guild from a new server. We are just getting stomped every COW. And also I don't like people change servers and then gather the strongest players under a guild, effectively blocking you from gold league. This stalls everyone's chance to get better rewards, sometimes 2-3 or even 4 alliances gatekeep people from gold rewards, and then people in the silver is also effected because of that, and then bronze etc. And the power difference is not something you can close by buying 3 golden tickets back to back or something, you literally need 1.5 - 2 years of constant pay hoping they won't enlarge the gap. Server changing should be banned. Facebook and Web servers should be merged. Not every event should target your wallet. Give people some hard to do F2P events. Just for them to feel good to complete the event tab without paying anything. Make the rewards smaller but people would be happier, small tricks like that.
Of course they deleted it. No accountability and then they shove the yesterdays gift down your throat. As everything is all around money and is fine but at least acknowledge your mistakes and own to them. Also make things maybe just a little bit more pleasant for people that are not willing to spend hundreds of dollars.
Too expensive is not detailed enough? How about I don't want to spend anything over $100 dollars on any one game. Or how about I already blew thousands on another pay to win game and then they closed the game took all the money and I was left with NADA. And of course, a very hearty....never again!
Corporate greed now. The game was fine until it switched hands and now in a joint control of a dutch japanese company that turned it into a 1.5bn company. Nexters has changed a lot, since they only care about money. Like most cames, thier quality goes right out of the window because they stopped caring about thier customers. It is pretty crazy.
everything about money and for people like me its too costly. Even games like CoC is not this costly. Nothing new, old things are recycled with new names.
Though I wish I did not even start any version of this game, I am glad that I at least got into the best version of it. Hopefully, it will remain the best version for however long I continue to play it.
60000 emeralds for one talisman. Enough said (even though I could say much more). It isn’t just pay to win, it is pay to even be able to remotely compete.
I still do my dailies but I only focus on two existing teams and don’t spend a dime. I still rank in the top 10 on my server since I don’t waste time and resources on new heroes anymore.
Greed, the cost increases for the game doesn't translate into value or fun
they say jet is useless but won't allow us to evolve him with books, the greed is that and making heroes that are LIKE jet, can't be evolved
yes i'm free2play but i earned up to my level over 2yrs of playing then you make heroes that can't be evolved regardless if you save?
@@VTuber_Clipp3r I still don't think he's useless.
One reason I'm less into the game now: we used to choose when we spend. Pick an event with good value, spend tons of emeralds and stockpile for the next week's or so.
Now Nexters are constantly trying to force us to spend by making resources we have useless (Evo books, artefacts coins for new heroes,...)
I don't even wanna take advantage of events to stock resources because who knows, maybe in the future, old skin stones or runes won't work on new heroes or some other BS.
Same for titans, they changed it for Tenebris so that we couldn't save for it
What has been changed for Tenebris?
They decided to make his weapon only obtainable with money and with golden pass (last levels). Result: I only got it to 3 stars, only titan I couldn't max the artefact weapon during the event...
the price chanses in shops in event get raised so much after so short is ridicilus
Former Guildmaster, here. I didn't quit for any one specific reason, it was several:
1) Lara Croft event - drastic departure from previous 'new hero' events that rewarded 'the grind' for event materials. Seems like that was dropped in favor of just spending.
2) re-worked hero's pass. Again, no excuse for this. grinders/f2pers should at least be able to reach the 'end' of the pass on the 'free' side.
3) re-worked Gift of Elements - just goes to show poor design decisions early on in the game biting them later, and then the players having to pay for it.
4) Skyships - largely a grind for no reason. felt like an all-but abandoned game function as soon as it came out. miserable rewards for actually doing it.
5) Dark/Light titans - bad implementation here, too. decision to allow them to overpower earth/water/fire instead of balancing each other out was purely profit-driven.
6) Super Skins - old hat, but still irks me. glad they finally put them in the hero's chest, but releasing a new skin and simultaneously putting both it and the upgrade behind a pay wall was (and is) super sketchy.
Overall, real reason I quit feels like a lack of imagination on the part of the game devs. instead of coming up with cool new game mechanics or ways to test out new/old heroes against new bosses, they just keep doubling down on more ways to spend on resources. Loads of other games do it better, and it sucks that cool creators like Charlie are getting anchored to sinking games like Hero Wars. I really hope he's got a Plan B.
WTAF on the price of the fangs, I mean, Seriously WTAF
Regular sub of HW here but dropped out. A lotta players stopped playing in my guild and other guilds on my server.. hwa has now become pathetic
Hero Wars FB/Web is running into the same issue. Although, there are more options for spending.
new players watching this, stop playing the game immediately. u cant catch up strong players without spending thousands of dollars.
u can cach up by investing in the corect heros but i wont say who because that whould put me in a disadvantage in the future , the game become to expensive and harder to level up heros in last 6 months
Not-so-new player here. I don't have to catch them. I just have to outlast them.
I stopped spending money but I think I spend around $250 total. No need to spend anymore money. You can catch up to the strong players when they decide to stop playing. lol My guild went from 5th to 3rd in the Gold League because the top teams kept dissolving.
@@Shadohz75 - They'll get tired of spending a lot. We will last longer because we're playing for fun.
@@arealgoodguy- dream on, I have fun winning and you have fun losing. Sounds like a useless activity 😅
I never noticed the cost increase of those fangs. Holy shit.
Right!
my 2¢: the three things that thuck
- totem drop rates
- no titans/totems on the heroes screen
- can't unlock raid by playing the game even when the longest part of the level is scene transition and loading time
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agreed, its a travesty that only vip get the raid option.
Not sure how many spheres i have used, not a single totem
@@jayakrishnanbalakrishnan3427 don't spend explorer moves till the last day of the map and make sure from leaks it isn't going to be the same map with a new island - literally go for 20k emeralds -> 500 titan spheres -> legendary gift of dominion in that order and only when you have enough moves to get all the way there - i had to force my only totem with bad luck protection and it's looking like that'll be how the second works as well (i'm easily 5k spheres in at this point with 0 gacha returns) - the thing i'll have to get back to you on is if the massive headache i've been giving myself to keep my fire team ahead of my water team so i don't get two of the same totem has been an absolute nightmare and i'm half expecting it to just give me a 2nd water anyway with the way they have bad luck protection worded
I have two big gripes. One's very specific, the other more general.
1. No confirmation to spend emeralds. A standard feature of most games. I believe there was a post from one of the community managers about a year ago saying that this was coming.
2.Nexters pushing us to waste resources investing in heroes we have no interest in so that we need to spend more (or any). These "sets" that came out a month or two ago are the latest example. "We'll give you more story if that's what you're into, but you have to level trash heroes along with the good ones".
Agreed, the should have just apologized for the error! And they are way to stingy
Also everything else you can eventually get for free, but not all tailismans, only some, which is ridiculous.
There is now far too much to do in a short space of time, (I only have about an hour in total to do everything, and as you have to log in several times per day, its a scramble to get everything done), which has stripped any semblance of fun from the game.
And as a new player I've seen how team level is tied to gold that never flows as fast as all the leveling you have to do. So to get hero items for promotion, you have to raid the campaigns and that increases level. It's not a problem for someone that has a 130 level team on every character. It's easy to see the design is to collect a majority of the money in the first few months of play. The say their deals are worth >$250 and then discount them 80-99% so that you'll budge.
thx Charlie
Rewards from the Tower is not random. It is skewed toward Tower Coins. This mornings raid yielded not one gold reward with 2/3 being Tower Coins. Frustrating...
Well, i said it before : the game is , STILL, amazing, BUT, it, slowly, becoimes a money grab game, with less rewards, and more expenses that will not help as much ! ... 😐
Constantly adding new things and then don’t continue with them and let them ‘dry out’.
1. Harbor - the council of champions, still being locked since the start.
2. Gate - still no new levels since coming out.
These game modes have been, in my opinion, useless. However, I continued to get involved with the promise of new things coming with them.
Instead they have been forgotten about and no news on them since them being released. They have just focused on grabbing as much money as possible off players.
There are so many more things I could mention but I feel this is something everyone has forgotten about and needs addressing!
I hate how they have hero talisman that can't be upgraded outside of special event. If they have talisman, they should be able to upgrade anytime
I do not know about alliance version, but in dominion era versionthey should call it "Dante wars", not hero wars.
with the introduction of flags there is a dante team that is almost unbeatable, and can kill one shot almost any tank, any team..
honestly not so fun
Generally speaking Dante is an hero that should not be used as tank, but if ou use frontline, with right support, is by far strongest than any other
amira and iris are way harder to deal with bro
What is the Dante team? I think my server has it
@@pattyatpal not within the first 1,5 years of playing. I think he is maybe on a newer server. There its Dante tank over Dante tank. Thats also logical. You only need to put all your ressources in 1 Hero and you will do well in Arena and GW... Dante is way to strong in early and midgame. Way better than any other hero.
I think this is about the only thing mobile does better. The teams are pretty balanced and fun to use and figure out counters for. But that being said, mobile overall is in a pretty bad place right now
The dante team: dante nebula sebastian iris martha is just very very strong. And Dante with a lucky crit is allways a problem.
The other reason is osh. You got 3 of 5 heroes already leveled. add jhu/lara and isaac and with 7 heroes you can compete in arena and go do good damage at osh.
As a start dante team is just too good. The problem is, people dont realize that getting 5 heroes up to a good level or max takes forever!!! so you are stuck with your choice forever!
I honestly think mobile is about dead. It’s very counterintuitive with how much they’ve incorporated p2w into the game, but it might honestly be the best time to be a free to play player. If you’re free 2 play, you can play for a LONG time and still have things to achieve and a long journey ahead of you with attainable goals. If you spend money on the game, it wears itself out VERY quickly. If you get to the top guild in your server, you run out of goals to achieve pretty quickly. It’s sad how dead global wars is ☹️. That used to be probably my favorite thing in the game! Now, in 2 months on a newer server, you can jump all the way to the second best league because there are so many empty and non active guilds. Combine that with the fact getting to #1 guild overall is pretty much impossible unless you spend ridiculous amounts of money, and you just get stuck in this state of feeling like you’ve done everything you can basically do in the game even if technically you haven’t. They really need to fix global wars or do something to make it more competitive or players lack a reason to play. I think global wars though is also a very big indicator on the state of the game and how many players have quit and all nexter does is try and make the game more expensive so the elite players keep spending but it’s really ruining the game.
I said this to some guild mates, as more and more people start to leave, Nexters will start to try and get even more money from those that are left. The new 'Asgard' ticket is a perfect example of this. I never spent much money on this game, I occasionally buy emeralds when they are 5X, but that is getting rarer and rarer, me buying them that is. I used to have Valkrie's Favour but stopped that at Christmas. I never buy Golden Tickets and never will.
I'm Stay VIP 1 😁🤭
It's not even enjoyable at that point. I was there, I did it. When you get to the top of the top all it amounts to is hours of training on one hit to make sure you don't miss and cost the team a couple points. The hundreds of battles in training both forward and reverse even made being among the best of the best completely unbearable. I enjoyed the people, but the game was expensive and unenjoyable. I deleted and walked away and do not regret it AT ALL.
@@KyleH-xc9cz yeah, I feel you! They really have made this game so amazing in some ways but VERY VERY VERY bad in too many ways to make it worth playing for most players.
Not quitting... But 60000 emeralds for one talisman? Excuse me?
Coming to this last event, I saw nebula as a hero i could level up to 120 and finally get her talisman.. to find out she needed to be lv 120 BEFORE the event. I mean, why can't I level her up during the event and get her talisman??!!😡
Very disheartening 😔
These bastards have not even acknowledged or done anything about the fact that I cannot attack Osh in my Guild for 8 weeks now. Before I even enter the Osh fights I am shown as Attacking and, consequently, I can't attack. I don't get any rewards, and I don't get my weekly Hall of Fame awards each week. I have seven open tickets with them and they WILL NOT DO ANYTHING, not even respond.
My peeves:
1) Incompetent rollouts - Castle bug was the most egregious, and the "fix" did not remotely even out for the vast majority who did not benefit. Moreover, it wasn't random who benefited: it was the strongest guilds that benefited more than anyone else. So the coiner guilds got even more.
2) Poor balance of heros. I have repeatedly complained that Dante is overpowered until people start getting max Ascension heros - nothing being done. Note this applies for newer servers where people are still building.
As a result, everyone and their grandmother is playing Dante teams - all except the biggest coiners who have all maxed hero teams and can branch out.
3) Poor documentation. Do Titan 1st and 2nd artifacts actually do anything for combats against (not elemental opposite) titans? It is not clear and never will be.
4) Coiner/F2P imbalance. I understand Nexters wants to make money, but tipping the balance ever further in the coiners favor is going to make the game less fun for everyone involved. I personally am a "middle" coiner - I spend only on what I see as value, have a single spend cap and have no desire or need to Pay2Win, but this is why I can see both sides of the equation.
The stats of the two talismans do not stack. This means that the return of investment in these talismans is 50%. So I am not interestes at all in a second talisman, and I will leave it at zero!!!
@@Durindano That's the way.
Simply becoming too expensive, not just for P2P and P2W players, also for F2P players as you pointed how items in event shops went to SKY, become unbelievably expensive, things become expensive 3-4 times and we can still collect same amount of coins. Ridiculous.
since the newest patch, i crash 20-30 times a day, trying to do the dungeons and the new pvp. no help from devs, or Google, of course. just silence so far. its been a week.
If I see a bump in the coin price of any item on PC I will drop this game like a hot rock.
Perfect deduction of what I'm going through Charlie...
I've been thinking about quitting, because the work routine I do to make good progress in this game being 100% Free Player is getting heavy... losing sleepless nights to complete missions... but I do it for my guild friends that I met but more and more I've been feeling less desire and enthusiasm to play this game.
When I saw these prices in the store, I thought it was because the "Way of progress faction" is very strong, and an event dedicated to them, but as I could see, you showed me that it is not.
(Thank you for info 🙏)
I barely do well in events and get many coins because there are missions with high energy costs, high emerald expenditure and even VIP points that limit me too much, now with these prices, it is unsustainable to get equipment for my heroes. (If it depends on spending 76000k coins or more than that on orange grade +4 items I will NEVER get them in any event I compete in, even dedicating myself completely... The recipes were good for my progress, but now, if this is the new standard of the game, it's a big madness... 😳 and I understand that with this, the game/creators want me to spend money on the game at any cost (or do you want to see me out of your game, since I'm a Free Player 🤔)
I can barely get to the end of the Hero Way Free Pass like it was before... 🥺
And look, if these rewards are FREE, why is it a Free Pass, why can't we go all the way to the end and redeem everything???
In Draft Legends, they/creators say that "Absolute Star Heroes" are better than heroes with lower star levels, but many times, I'm being "Forked" by opponents with lower star heroes than mine (And this is very frustrating... 😤)
I think the creators are not even afraid of a great decline in game, as they are billionaires in revenue and even if the game stagnates, for 100% free play players like me, they still have the "Whales" who continued to pay heavily for everything in the game.
Free Player, has no value in today's games... Not even if you support the game every day or for years and years... 😭
as a free player every day i have to watch many (sucks) video ADV in exchange of emerald/gold coins. even Nexter get profit from free player
Guys it is worth it buying the way of hero? Im kinda new so its 50% off. The only problem is that upgrading is sooo slow, im playing every single day since it came out and im still on level 11/55. It is possible to reach the level 55 in 17 days?
no its not worth it
@@johnyguitar258 why? Can you elaborate it pls
@@flameofcry no i wont
Salty Charlie.....I LOVE IT!!
no salt only the thruth
@@johnyguitar258 They are not mutually exclusive. He is salty but rightfully so with the facts he laid out for us.
The Alliance team must be made mostly by trainees. They move them to FB/web after they got more experience about what NOT to do in the game at the expenses of the Alliance players.
first reason is cost as said by many other treads , i think thats surportet by if the devolepers come up with something it going to be something thats make more profits.
i remember playing hero wars about 30 years ago , to my knowlegdes there havnt been many improvements exept from making the game more profitiable.
in my opnion they should have realised that they had a good thing and taking some of their profits and invested it in the game , like better boss fights etc..
they could make voting polls in guilds , or other small things but no
TapJoy doesn't work half the time. There it is
I have never spent a penny on the game in 6 months - But I am nearly @ 130, I set up a guild, and now I am in the later stages of developing a meta & reserve team for the 2nd 6 months. But.....bugger me, getting to the next stage is looking impossibly tough. I never have any emeralds, cash is always £1M tops and I spend more days on total resource managment than I do actually enjoying the game. If it is a choice between spending my own cash on the game and getting out - see ya.....
I am considering leaving my Guild since guild quest daily energy spending was added in order to obtain prestige, I have to surpass my monthly game spending to fulfil daily campaign quests as there is no way to farm that amount of energy required every day which brings my monthly resources spending to around $50 to $60 a month on just energy which was not required before. I play the web version of the game & I find it very frustrating to level up Heroes, Pets, Titans at this pace. I think that is a huge mistake made by Hero Wars web as I am considering leaving my guild. Thanks for being a voice for all of us Charlie.
not sure how you do it, but I spend only on VF and I still can collect all daily rewards. I don't complete however the energy related defeat x opponents missions fully every day but you should consider there that campaign level 6 raids for 60 energies give the same progress as the higher level campaign missions for 80 or 100. You need to develop parallel 2-3 heroes, 1 lower level and higher level same time, if possible. It is indeed not possible to complete all daily missions fully. If your guild demands it, quit from there sooner than later. The prestige rewards are not that good to spend so much on this game, just to satisfy your guild.
You're focusing on the wrong task to complete Prestige and daily guild quests. I just play as normal and at the end of the day I focus on Chaos coins (pet) 250, Hero runes 2500, and spend Tournament coins 1200 (or you could do Essence of the Elements). The last two tasks I mentioned let you double dip. I always hit my daily guild quest max. All the other events like spending gold and healing are just stuff you get throughout the day. I don't even pay attention to it.
i'm not quitting but i will admit one thing nextar is doing thats pushing my buttons is, its trying to force the hand of free2oplay players, creating heroes when artifacts/resources are already hard to find and accumulate as is when you're not using real money BUT whats worse is creating new heroes that can't be maxed out eg lara croft etc, i can use evolution books in the old days now they are like jet, why? every hero will loos their top tier status anyways
My concerns with Facebook&WEB is COW is entirely dead if you a new guild from a new server. We are just getting stomped every COW. And also I don't like people change servers and then gather the strongest players under a guild, effectively blocking you from gold league. This stalls everyone's chance to get better rewards, sometimes 2-3 or even 4 alliances gatekeep people from gold rewards, and then people in the silver is also effected because of that, and then bronze etc. And the power difference is not something you can close by buying 3 golden tickets back to back or something, you literally need 1.5 - 2 years of constant pay hoping they won't enlarge the gap. Server changing should be banned. Facebook and Web servers should be merged.
Not every event should target your wallet. Give people some hard to do F2P events. Just for them to feel good to complete the event tab without paying anything. Make the rewards smaller but people would be happier, small tricks like that.
Of course they deleted it. No accountability and then they shove the yesterdays gift down your throat. As everything is all around money and is fine but at least acknowledge your mistakes and own to them. Also make things maybe just a little bit more pleasant for people that are not willing to spend hundreds of dollars.
Too expensive is not detailed enough? How about I don't want to spend anything over $100 dollars on any one game. Or how about I already blew thousands on another pay to win game and then they closed the game took all the money and I was left with NADA. And of course, a very hearty....never again!
ITS THE ADDS, like the ones on youtube
Yeah, it's rubbish and the ads are misleading. The devs should be jailed.
Corporate greed now. The game was fine until it switched hands and now in a joint control of a dutch japanese company that turned it into a 1.5bn company. Nexters has changed a lot, since they only care about money. Like most cames, thier quality goes right out of the window because they stopped caring about thier customers. It is pretty crazy.
everything about money and for people like me its too costly. Even games like CoC is not this costly.
Nothing new, old things are recycled with new names.
It isn’t just pay to win, it is pay to even breathe in da game need to be more balanced between regular with p2w players
what a good time to be a web player lol
Though I wish I did not even start any version of this game, I am glad that I at least got into the best version of it. Hopefully, it will remain the best version for however long I continue to play it.
why does my game look totally different than this?
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