Eminem vs. Snoop Dogg | The Joe Budden Podcast
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"Any friend that turns into an enemy, has been hating you since day one" - Tupac
Quotes the man who jumped his step brother Mopreme, cut off Treach & Big Syke & made numorous diss tracks to a passive Dr. Dre 😶 I smell someone under their late 30's or has the mind as such. Smh!
@@Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach fix your english. Smh
That hit different since I found out my day one stole from me smh
Not really, what if your actions caused the problems?
But Snoop wasn't hating. It's NOT hating to say you don't like someone's music or even listen to it. It's not hating to say that they're not in your, or the, top rappers conversation.
Nobody mentions the fact that Eminem is played in gyms, arenas and stadiums across the world
Apparently it’s because no one listens to his music 🤷🏾♂️
Mal : where do u hear Em’s music?
Uhhh espn lol
Uhhh Obama’s presidency playlist
Yeah in the whitest of white areas of the globe. Never heard an eminem song be played in public besides “loss yourself.” You listen to Em songs in your headphones or at a low volume in your car lol
The reality is purists respect Em, but he’s not regarded in the culture as playlist material. He’s the first White Rapper in hip-hop, of course he’s accepted globally . Cmon. I was super wit it till I took a second to realize there’s no other hip hop artist played in these stadiums, even the kendricks or j coles.
Joe Budden making sure the clip was cut before eminem finishes making his point, what a top tier beta male maneuver.
noticed it too!😂😂😂
Such a wanker 🙏🏼😂
man spoke about tone for 10 mins smh
Go do your own show
@@TJR-ju8dj naaah just not a fan of disloyal People ;)
“No one listens to Eminem”. Spotify 4.1 billion streams. 😂
Streams can easily be inflated... but so what? Black American in general does not rock with him
All white though
@@aSpeakerOfTheTruth 13B on Pandora and it’s not available world wide. Facts is facts. People who say no one listens to him are clearly wrong. And I can’t speak for the entire country but everyone I know listens to him for one reason or another. Hispanic, black, white, Asian....
@@aSpeakerOfTheTruth u say black American in general don't rock with him which is bs
Trust Em the G.O.A.T.
They spent so long talking about Eminem saying he didn’t like snoop dogg’s tone when if they listened to the rest of the clip it was the last thing snoop said that Eminem found disrespectful.
Thanks a lot man
Yeah I was kind of surprised the recording was stopped where it was.
It was the 'that's some music I can live without' comment that pissed him off, understandably.
I’ve noticed every once in a while Snoop will voice his true feelings about other artist. He did this over a decade ago with Soulja Boy.
@@LeoGains He called him Soulja Man lmao
Sums it all up
Em displayed emotions that black rappers were scared to rap about for fear of being seen as emotionally fragile. Facts
yeah. scarface too
Facts
factsss
He got that from Pac. Pac was the first that put emotions into his songs.
@@sidohofman6835 true but LL Cool J started the emotional rap with I need love.
I'm South African and we play eminem in our bars and clubs ...he is in my top 5 .I'm 33 grew up on his music with 2pac,BIggy,Rakim,Talib kweli, Nas ,Jay Z , Cannibus Q-tip
If you 33 you did NOT grew up with Rakim. Stop fakin the funk.
Eminem shit
@@frontandcenter7941 dude Im 17 and i grew up with his music
here in SA our music taste is timeless
@@ICantFindMyKnuttsFTLC4L You wasn't born yet! You was born in 2003. You didn't even grew up with Lil Wayne. Don't type if you got nothing to say!.
@@jamesk3784 dude you don’t have to be born in the era to grow up with him. Stfu. I’m more or less the same age and grew up with the same artists. So stfu
1. Cutting Eminem off before he finished is a bitch move
2. Snoop has a personal vendetta against Eminem
3. Eminem does get played a lot - just look at his numbers.. those are called facts
4. Eminem been respectful so far but will dismantle Snoop if he keeps pushing it
He couldn’t even dismantle mgk or the toilet his head was dunked in
@@rule129 lol mgk is now in pop punk scence, so em did dismantle mgk
@@muhammadhardick3220 Not to mention MGK’s biggest criticism of Em’s song is that he isn’t a mumble rapper... Then released an album where he mumble raps...
“I don’t listen to kill moms, etc” “I’d rather listen to music killing our own brothers and sisters and selling them drugs”
that part
Straight up
@Prince Vegeta’s Burner Account Kdot rap about some shit that people don't usually relate in general so cut the shit out! And nobody ain't playing kanye anymore!
He did that almost 20 years ago ! and he don't talk about that shit anymore and these idiots are only obsessed with those songs there is whole fucking catalogue where he didn't kill his baby momma , or his mom or pop pills!
@Prince Vegeta’s Burner Account And don't mention drake in the same sentence where Lupe , kanye , kdot are there!
Mal: " I love Eminem"
Me : No you don't 😂😂😂😂
Literally spoke the same thing out loud to my phone haha!
Also shake that plays in the club and the tracks with Rihanna where always on the radio so he’s wrong about none of his music playing
@@theburgerking746 shake that goes so fuckin hard too while u mentionin it
@@THE_GOD_CHANNEL but he’s still working with Dre
@@THE_GOD_CHANNEL You only like a couple or a few songs from Em? Lol That’s crazy to me, anybody who knows Eminem’s catalog has at Minimum 20 songs they really like.
Tone always mattered when speaking to people in general...it's not what you say its how you say it. I don't understand how joe is confused by that
Right, like imagine buying something at a clothing store and someone gives you that same tone or in a resraurtant. I wonder if he still would go back.
It's the policing how people speak. I won't be fake- yes tone does matter. However, if Snoop said the exact same thing in a 'nicer' tone, it won't change what he's saying.
Like, Snoop had been in the game how long? And he has to 'watch his tone' as someone might be upset by it, regardless of what he says? We can call each other the n-word, b!tches and h0es, but we gotta watch our tone when speaking about Eminem because he might be upset about it, when he didn't care upsetting other legends in the culture?
This has just been blown outta proportion. Them man need to talk to each other instead of talking about each other. Pick Up The Phone lol
Exactly, unless you’re just cool with someone talking to you any kind of way.
@@Yawdan I get all that but respect is all in the tone,and I'll leave it at that
@@Yawdan it’s not about policing how ppl speak, it’s about keeping the same energy. If I just saw you in the studio last week like Em did Snoop and you were all buddy-buddy with me then don’t go behind my back and do an interview publicly trashing me and my music. It’s as simple as that.
Joe Budden making more money on youtube than his music ever did 🙏🏼😂
He also make more music than you ever did
@@immaculateAMG what you doing with your life instead of sucking up to a man who dont know you exist
@@shoto7948 what are you doing with your life instead of commenting to a person that doesn't know you exist
He's kind of blacklisted in music..
@@Evil_Avocado yeah but ofc, Nobody wants a rat in their bakery ;)
Snoop said " I can live without that shit." Come on. Rude as a friend. The rest is gossip.
Ems music is trash though it’s been trash for decades his first two albums was dope he made too much gimmick music real hip hop heads can’t relate that’s all
@@johntucker4056 Lol no he isn't and real hip hop heads still fw him. You straight up sound like a hater "for decades". Plenty of non-gimmicky, relatable music since 2010.
Exactly. So many media guys (like the ones in this vid) afraid to just admit that Snoop was wild disrespectful the way he described Em's music. Not putting him in his personal top list is his prerogative, but the way he was dismissive of Em's music was what was foul. It's really not even that complicated. Sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say that sh*t.
@@RawNoLimits I’m a hater because I don’t relate to Eminem’s music? Another fan who probably has zero knowledge about hip hop but just listens to Eminem! He is a white boy that raps good that’s all
@@johntucker4056 lol stop acting like that's the only reason I called you a hater. You seem like even more of a hater now. I listen to plenty of hip hop.
Mal said the same thing about the Breakfast Club and about Akademiks. He seems to think that if something is not big to him, that the whole culture thinks that way. Just because Eminem music doesn't feature where he goes, doesn't mean it doesn't pop somewhere else.
Exactly! Em has sold the most records of any hip hop artist ever he can’t tell me em isn’t popping off in a bunch of places!
Exactly, and also if he's referring to Em's earliest albums from 2,000+ then you can make that same argument for 50's get rich or die trying album, when last have you heard it playing? The thing is old songs aren't gonna be played everywhere you go like that.
His point is black folks arent bumping it down the street, in the club, or at a party. Almost every rap head thinks he has bars, one of the best
@@yannickscott2576 but who bumps 20 year old music like that in the club. I don’t hear nas at the club or at a party either especially his new shit. Dave and mouse whatever there names are we’re saying em shouldn’t have existed and sucks and did nothing
@@kurtschaaf2165 I'm saying this is mal point. His point those three areas are where you know the culture feels the music. No disrespect to Eminem. But the culture loves to feel the music. The content isnt something most black people can get with. Disrespecting moms? No. Ie 2pac Dear Mama. DMX mother did him dirty, he doesn't do music dissing his mother. Right or wrong just giving you an example why it doesn't have replay value in most sections of the black community
Ong, I thought Rory had turned into a couple oranges.
😂😂
lol
LMFAOOOOOOOO 🤣
Rory the Annoying Orange 🍊😁
i hate you right now
lmao
"I find Em's tone bothersome" 5 seconds later "Are we tone policing now?"
I was thinking the same thing!!! Like, dafuq?!?! 🤣😂🤣
Yeah I think Joe Budden is just going to find fault with with anyone he doesn't like even if he contradicts himself in the process.
They’ve been talkin in a circle for 3 years.
They say whatever pops in their head at the time.. Nothing really taught true
Damn. Eminem is so HUGE still. Legit, he may actually still be one of the biggest rappers in the game. People still have Eminem on the tip of their tongues and he’s been in the game over 20 years!
Definitely the most polarizing and talked about rapper in history lol
Listening to white Boys talk about rap is laughable.
If your knowledge of hip hop only goes to Eminem then you proving everyone’s point.
@@jamalyoung7258 I'm a huge 90s rap fan - in no particular order Nas/DMX/Pac/Mobb Deep/BIG/Dre/Cube/Dogg Pound/Spice 1/8Ball & MJG/Brotha Lynch/Rappin' 4-Tay/MC Eiht/DJ Quik/Outkast/Scarface/Snoop/Mase/Three-6 Mafia/Bone/Geto Boys/Roots/Eazy/UGK/Mos Def/Cypress Hill are just some of the first to come to mind for me. Eminem is just one of many that I was a big fan of.
And I'm not sure why it's laughable when "white boys" talk rap (I'm Vietnamese for the record), but okay. If you find it funny then you're free to do so of course.
You realize the guy seems to always diss waves of people whenever he releases a new project? It's called attention seeking and it works for the most part lmao
@@jamalyoung7258 racism in 2020 is laughable and then to turn around and go boo hoo about racism is comedy 🤡
"But benzino"
"Bezino has a point "
Bro just say u don't listen to em. Zino can't even talk about what's hot when he never was and still gave his music the highest ratings foh
word
Benzino wasn't wrong. Em has literally made songs saying that very point. So I doubt you listen to em lol. Even rory points it out. His very first hit was comparing himself to Elvis about black music...
Em CAN RAP. But most of his early music was all about doing drugs, kids doing drugs, killing his parents, baby mom's, shooting up schools, an dissing pop stars. "Hey kid's, do you like violence? Wanna see me put nine inch nails through each one of my eyelids".... opening lines to his breakout song..
His content was trash an made for white people for the most part lol who watched jackass with a few songs of good content every now an then. Em literally agrees with everything snoop said.
It's vven more apparent because when he made his content more serious"revival" his mainly white fans hated it 😂 they wanted old em rapping about sawing up prostitutes an shit lol
Benzino who? The Platinum selling hip-hop artist? The current owner of a record label? Oh no... wait neither of those....the former source co-owner with multiple financial problems and legal trouble over the years? Oh yea...no lets def. respect his words.
@@crowing3886 Word. Dave and Benzino let the world know about them tapes first, not Em so both of them have instant credibility on this matter.
@@crowing3886 right. I don't listen to him yet your the one bringing up the 'unrelatable' topics in his songs as if that's all he does (the classic statement for people who actually don't listen). His first hit was not him comparing himself to Elvis so try again. Now show me the stats that had 'the white fans' say revival is trash. He started being 'serious' as you say After relapse my guy. Revival is what everyone remembers getting critiqued
"I don't like Em's tone" then continues to hate on the "Tone Police" lol *Crackhead Budden*
🤣
When your friend is saying in public he can live without your whole life’s project....that is just sad.
That's not a friend 😉
exactly!
@kingquazy only thing correct in this paragraph is people fear him and others wish to use him. Must suck.
Your friend does not have to like your music if he can't relate to it
@@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX there's a difference between saying you can live without someone's catalog and saying that the catalog isn't for you... The latter is a lot nicer.
Mal Logic: “Air isn’t real! You can’t even see it. Show me where air is. Show me where air is! Point at it right now and let me see it. I don’t see it, so obviously air is not real!”
He’s the same dude who said on “MTBMB” Eminem was rapping tooooo much 😂🤦🏼
@@quiks.groove words are hard for people who struggle with comprehension
Intelligent people: “Mal, you know we can prove scientifically that air is real, and we can prove mathematically that Eminem is one of the most played and listened to artists ever to this day, right?” Mal: “Nah fam, if you can’t show me someone listening to Eminem right next to me or weigh me up a pound of air right now then you buggin”
@@StWarhead weigh a pound of air 😂
😂😂😂😂
Eminem had more than 4 billion streams and he was listened to for more than 321Million hours in spotify alone in 2020 and Mal is asking who listens to Eminem😂
He asked "Where do you hear it?" not the same.
@@chadalahio8266 He is trying to say noone is bumping Em anymore, so you hear it nowhere. That's why I said he had been played for 321 Million hours last year worldwide in spotify.
@@Aviishek. facts bro
When he says where is it played he meant as black people we don’t listen to Em.
Not because he isn’t talented because we can’t relate to his music.
@@scottowldn8239 I didn't say that he said Em was not talented tho.
The old "I don't hear people playing Eminem" line. Just a guess, but I think a sizeable amount of Eminem is listened to through headphones.
your guess is accurate
Yes and alone in the car
And as much as he trying to make it seem like a culture vulture moment it’s not. He made good music lol. I’d take him over cannabis fam lol
Em's music you have to digest and feel. We aren't talking about his singles but his stories and wordplay
You can't play that in a club or on the radio because it's over the general publics head
@@EVRDYRNGD there isn’t anything complicated about em’s music bro stop it lol
MAL: "Eminem didn't make good music either..."
This level of foolishness is special.
Mal is right
His music isn't good
Em's the goat lyrically,but if we're talking about musically,there's other rappers out there present and past that I'd rather listen to.That's coming from a massive Eminem fan as well.Em used to be much better musically when he first blew up (99-02) and that's a fact.Em nowadays would take a Trap beat over a classic Boom-Bap beat and that just doesn't appeal to a lot of real Hip-Hop fans.
Em can spit but he’s just phucking corny.
Then why on eminem shop everything sold out all the time and music to be murdered by and side b sold out
Don’t forget the main part when snoop said “I can live without that shit”
Exactly they purposely left that part out to run with the narratives they wanted. 90% of the bullshit they were saying was just assumptions and nothing based on a fact. Rly frustrating that this clowns have this big of a platform and use it to spread foolishness
We all can he being honest
This podcast is a joke. A podcast of finding info on how to keep you podcast, by Eminem... Another racist .
Snoop mad he didn't get a verse from a guy who's music he can do without 🧢
Snoops man-gina is jaloux on em being a better friend with dr dre than him 😅
🤣🤣🤣‼
Fact
This ‼‼‼
"You can lose Royce's number" LMAO
You can’t come to next slaughter house video....
SOMEBODY: you can’t either!!!!!
@@tilerlife2593 put some respect on rorys name
@@tilerlife2593play drop "its rory and mal"
@@tilerlife2593 LMAOO
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joe Budden: "This is bothersome to me listenin to that clip... ironically because of tone."
Also Joe Budden just two minutes later: "Nobody's policin my tone in 2021. If you have a problem with my tone I don't give a fuck!"
Everybody: What the fuck?!
Ha, ha
Only he can have an opinion about people’s tones not the other way around. Duhh🙄
@@mindyobusiness3403 being a rap artist doesn't exempt that bruh
Mal : "Where's Eminem music playing?"
Internasional STAN : "in our headphone everyday"
What Mal forget EM is global icon not just US rapper😂✌
exactcly
Oh this dude's name is Mal...ok😂😂.lol who cares...thanks though..
So Joe is gonna talk about tone-policing ... while literally policing somebody's tone. 🙄 Yeah ok. Can't nobody expect for any objectivity to be happening during this convo if it involves Eminem, we already know...
Thanx for saying that 💯
Sherry fine
Right, it's also super tense when Joe's talking about causing trouble in your own camp and still hasn't apologised for doing that himself lol
Not to mention the poor timing of pausing that clip. Eminem makes extremely valid points here and he cuts it off as he’s bringing it all together.
Joe with the hypocrisy 😂 good catch!
When Snoop went on national radio and said BIG and Puffy were his homebodys... then Tupac started to dislike Snoop after that... was that also "tone policing",,,, I swear Em gets criticized for shit no other rappers get criticized for lmao
It is what it is. He gets credit that no other rappers get as well. A lot of “stans” lack the ability to see the other side of the shady coin...
So what
“Who even plays Eminem “
Espn for national championship ..
The whole world mate, 40 million monthly listeners on Spotify.
@Asylant im listening to zeus right now. We’re not females needing a deep ass voice to tingle our ears on some suss shit lol
90% of hip hop rap fans and listeners are race other than black. You may not hear Em's music in the ghetto but they play his music mostly in the suburb and across the world, Em's music is more clear and easy to sing along to. You wonder why they hating on the white boy cause ppl listen to his shatt more then them😂🤣🤣🐐
@Asylant go listen to playboi carti baby voice
@Asylant I agree with you. It's not just that it's high pitched-- it's nerve wrecking. Lil Boosie got a high pitched voice, but I can tolerate his way more than Em's.
Budden doesn't even like em but he even knows how good he is ...
Budden too salty. He needs to let it go.
@@Armando316 exactly so does benzino
@@camillethomas9452 You forgot the one and only Lord Jerome
@@kanyenorth8449 lord jamar just ended his beef with eminem so he moved on and stopped talking about enimen
@@camillethomas9452 I forgot one more Charlamagne
Eminem’s song is on the new promo commercial for UFC McGregor fight Em stays getting paid.
Your talking about commercial success not hip hop you clown. Em should be in a different category his not hip hop that’s a pop star
@@johntucker4056 Em is a pop star his hip hop category left in the 90’s you clown
Eric Grubb yesss 💯 They also used Eminem - without me for mcgregors last fight promo as well
@@ericgrubb21 you gon' learn isn't a pop song
@@ericgrubb21 he never had a hip hop category in our world sorry lol
So is joe not finna play the rest of them em clip where he explains why he ACTUALLY responded?
He is obviously pushing his own narrative. The whole discussion was biased af and didnt make any sense. Budden literally criticized Em's tone while saying no body is allowed to tone police his own. Smh
Every time I think the Slaughterhouse album is gonna come out, Joe comes with his hating mouth.
THIS, SO MUCH THIS. Em said in that interview that even further than the TONE, it's what Snoop said at last. We're talking words, not even tone now
Yea he’s wack af for that. He lets the rest of that clip play nd it invalidates his whole point that’s why he didn’t . That shit is wack man
Fr, joe is so dishonest and evil, Eminem literally said "I could have ignore the tone, if Snoop didnt say the very last statement that he said" but joe didnt let that play cuz them Eminem would make so much sense and joe doesnt like it...
@@martinvampire2013 Em said “I could’ve ignored the tone” after bitching about the tone.
Eminem is the most talked about Emcee of all time I love it lol
No
Bwahahahahaha!!!! This is EXACTLY what Snoop was talking about. And your assertion is what educated psychologists/sociologists label the “Echo Chamber” phenomenon. In retarded people terms, it just means that your opinion is based solely on the fact that you love Eminem and constantly interact on his content with other people who love him and say that he’s the greatest. Then just because you people feel the same way, you think everyone does. But you have my word.... literally NOBODY outside of the suburbs buys or listens to Eminem albums. At least not on purpose anyways. And none can name any songs from his albums that weren’t released as singles or collaborations.
It’s cuz he’s white but too bad he will never be rad 😎
@@blacksuburban2410 and that’s exactly why they can’t say someone is better than Eminem without listening to all his songs, I got no problem with people saying Eminem is not the best but at least go listen to all his shit before you voice your opinion
@@bryantmedina8168 gunna cry ?
Snoop said in a interview that he never wanted Eminem on his songs because he didn't want to be shown up on his own album...
Forgot about this
I remember that. 😂😂😂
You got a link to that?
💯
He was showing love doesn’t mean Snoop can’t have his opinion in 2021
And why tf does Joe stop the clip to address Ems tone!? Let the man finish his thoughts before you critique him Joey🤦♂️
Joe thinks he’s great at moderating the podcast he’s really not
I was like Joe petty just like me you can tell he at em neck
@Keepin it Real man I can hear you telling me this in person I'm weak asf 😂🤣
@Keepin it Real that’s real shit bro
I’m just mad cuz it seems like they really trying to cancel Em rn & he called that shit lol I get that ppl can live without his music... I’m not one of them 😂
Joe understood tone when Jr prince was talking to him.
JR was saying a bunch of nothing
@@larrymarc438 sure but he understood the energy he was coming to him with
I take it your an Eminem Stan
@@bobbymendoza2938 I gotta be an em stan to disagree with joes point? What a childish thing to say
Jr. prince talk a whole lotta nothing 😂
Once you realize Eminem might come at ya:
“Listen, I love Eminem don’t get me wrong..”
Hahahaahhahaaah
People just hate having to deal with his fans .
lol so Budden didn't like Em's tone, but Snoop's tone was fine when he said "I can live without that." How did this guy just talk about tone policing while tone policing right before? Then he underscores what he said (totally left out "this is one of the worse songs I've ever heard") while accusing Em of overreacting. Dawg, Joe be hypocritical af sometimes. Not to mention he conventiently cut the audio _right before_ Em actually gives his reason for feeling some type of way.
em overreacted snoop answered a question. em should've cut him some slack and give him the benefit of the doubt. If they're "same team" like em said he could've assumed the best and that snoop is high 24/7 and didn't realize how it came off. then call for a temperature check.
This is exactly why I had to stop listening to this podcast in it's entirety. I only watch clips once in a while now. Another big reason I stopped listening is when parks started talking more. Couldn't care less of his opinion on anything.
Snoop tone was mono wasn’t doing to much
Joe cut it off before he heard the "I can live without that shit" line. He should've let it play out to know what Em was talking about when he mentioned tone.
FLEXX-A-PEEL Soo what I keep hearing that snoop said he could live without that shit so what honestly we all could Eminem didn’t transform this rap shit 😂 so it true IMO
Joe discussing a beef between two rappers when he’s literally beefin with one of them is absolute jokes. Y’all already know joe goin be up in his feels in this one lmao.
And for the same reason too LOL
4 minutes in and he’s done nothing but defend Eminem 🤔 sure it won’t last long though
THE RULE STATES: It’s NOT wat u said, it’s HOW u said it! N I believe Em. Snoop is entitled to his opinion. But he DEFINITELY said it “ a way”. Facts...
Periodt 💯
Why is this man always talking bout Eminem he sounds so bitter 😂
are we really acting like "the way I am" "cleaning out my closet" "stan" weren't huge jams?
Exactly, thankyou.
@@Adam_K14 just cause you don't hear it doesn't mean its not played. At least at the time of those songs, it was on radio, mtv etc.
Or til i collapse, real slim shady, my name is, without me, shake that ass, smack that, forgot about dre, godzilla, love the way you lie, not afraid. These are just off the dome.
@@nathantrujillo471 people are haters. Just because it ain’t your cup of tea don’t mean shit
Lose yourself not afraid love the way you lie real slim shady till i collapse
He knows damn well “Tone” is everything in a conversation. Stop making excuses to justify what Snoop did. Snoop always been a hater.
funny thing is joe talking about em tone but cut the part where em talks about snoop tone.
Mal popped his shoulder out from reaching
Facts 🤭😆💯
Yeah... Lol
Like why dude even try to go this route
🤣🤣🤣
Mal finna fall of chair soon
Take this W for this
You cut him off before he even got to his point, Eminem was bothered by the VERY LAST thing that Snoop Dogg said.
I know fukn stupid
“But in this industry, Im the cause of a lotta envy, so when Im not put on this list, that shit does not offend me”
Eminem got no problem with snoop not putting him on his top 10 tf.
Nor his tone.
He disrespected eminem’s music and he’s from his own team.
I play M sometimes in the car I haven’t heard a benzino song ever and I’m not white I’m Hispanic
Eminem the goat i always play his songs... i never heard someone say “play some joe budden “ doh😂😂
hispanics idolize white people.
@@Regalman but if they say black people idolize weed,liquor ,leaving their child and stealing, being lazy it would be racist right...
@@Regalman I was goin to ignore you but go head why you say that
Hispanic is not a race
Mal needs to go. That man couldn’t back up an argument to save his life. He’s a terrible addition to this podcast and not a single thing he says holds ANY weight
@@knggullah8079 I said what I said. He’s been a terrible addition since the beginning. Better?
I usually like how he checks joe but this one had me disagreeing with every word out of his mouth.
This aged like wine
The only thing they have on Eminem is that he's white and it's petty af. Aint no mainstream rapper ever been on Eminem's level. It's unfortunate we never got to see Pac and Biggie's careers play out, maybe then we'd have something but Em been king for 20+ years and still going. Nope #2 is not even close.
Shady sell music not the best rapper because he didn't start it n he will not finish it he will be known to be the best white rapper n yaaa we still broke n stand by the fire barrel and create new styles n speak about what we go through as so call africans americans which do not exist so I'm just waiting for the next pac
No disrespect to Em. But he could live 100 more years and would not come close to Pac
Eminem is great but could NEVER be the king of rap.
Em is DEF played, a lot. That damn love the way you lie was played everywhere for YEARSSSSS. Then there was the whole stan era and MTV era, Em was everywhere
Facts. But they wanna deny it, as usual. I even heard Em's Songs inside Bars, So many times.
I used to hear Em played in the clubs all the time.
Thank you, I don't get why black community won't accept someone who grew up with them pretty much. Em respects the culture and the people before him. Saying you don't relate to his songs doesn't make sense, im Asian and I don't relate to Travis scott songs but I like them because they sound good.
It was played due to Rihanna... What Em song by himself has ever been played to that degree.... The closest thing might be the 8 mile single and that's far less than that Rihanna track.
@@techz4u1 my name is, lose yourself, stan, way I am, cleaning out my closet, I could keep going
Joe conveniently cut off the EM interview audio to paint a false narrative about the tone. He actually goes on to explain his problem.
I agree. Joe is not talking from a reporter’s point view, instead he’s putting how he personally feels about em out there along with his argument.
Exactly. Media manipulation 101. Joe’s a goof.
Yeah he cut it perfectly. I’m a big Em fan AND a big Joe fan but I’m honestly fed up with the fake bullshit around this show I’m out ✌️
Joe a punk for that again he wonder why he gon get hate. Doing shit like this why you get punched in the eye all them years back by painting a false narrative than only Joe believes. Great artist still hasn't grow up as a man tho.
Joe hating and disloyal just like Snoop.
Clout chaser. “You mention me millions of views I mention you lose lose for me win win for you.”
Damn this is hard to watch. "who listens to Eminem?" "Where is Eminem even played?" Uhh I think him being one of the most streamed artists of the 21st century answers that question for you. Are you wanting every person who listens to Eminem to be named?? What is this guy even talking about?
This podcast is a joke
Eminem's music is in Africa, Europe, Asia, Australia, South America and somewhere in the USA that isn't where Mal goes
Dude u skipped Africa.....I ve bn an eminem stan since slim shady lp
@@sheikhumar4063 I'm African too lol but yeah I've been listening to Eminem since 2004 when I was 5 years old. I'll edit it
"Are we tone policing" he says, after he polices Em's tone 💀
Haha.. right!! 🤦🏽♂️
He literally said do WE tone police each other?. Yall Em stans need to be removed from the culture.
Nah he said he was mad at the fact snoop said “as far as music i can live without, i can live without that shit.” But yall cut the interview off early smh.
In Cape Town Eminem has a huge fan base, especially amongst people of color. We have no issue blasting his music in our stereos.What people play or don't play out loud in the "Hood" in America is simply not the general standard for Hip Hop in and around world. Numbers do not lie. I can't even say he's been consistent because that would be an insult since he's only been getting better and better over time. MTBMB is an absolute masterpiece.
Apartheid and colonized Africans, no surprise. white people got y'all controlled
Matt...the most dumbest reply ever. Just for clout
@@khrisnjokwana where is the lie? Have you ever read a history book?
@@khrisnjokwana man you clueless. Damn.
We don’t give a damn what y’all do or play that’s y’all business stay y’all ass outta ours... Whatever our narrative on the overrated rapper is has nothing to do with you way the hell over in Cape Town... Worry about whatever music y’all created in your section and you can speak on that all you like.
Mal has some good points sometimes. But when he doesn't its really bad.
Lol.... exactly..
Facts
Mal is insecure that’s been clear for a long time now. Didn’t notice it at first but I did as time went by. Watch him get quiet whenever someone mentions his weight or that he wants to dress like Saint John so bad. Look at him while everyone was joking about the diss track. Dude has no self-confidence but pretends like he does. That’s why he can’t joke about himself. It gets him in his feelings. It’s also why he never admits he’s wrong. I know dudes just like him.
@@Angels510 thats some real shit. It also seems like the more the podcast goes on the more his real self comes to light.
@@Angels510 bro yeah he was boutta cry when them diss tracks dropped 😂
Mal was a short bus kid bruh... his whole arguments made no sense
This nigga said Benzino had a point.
I still listen to Eminem, def one of the artists I go back to along with many others. I just had 8 mile road on repeat.
One of my favorite eminem songs, which seems pretty much forgotten, is Rabbit Run from the soundtrack.
Well done. Good for you. And what's that gotta do with any1
You're such an quintessential white boy 🤣. EM is one of the best alive today no doubt but I don't listen to that anymore. It's the kind of music I don't want to listen to inside an car or in the house.
@@gunnyo50 I'm not white tho sooooo
If Eminem was black and didn’t have the white demographic no one would have ever signed him to begin with
They just mad because they can't understand Em's shit. His music is not for "slow learners" 🤣
Joe Budden will always be sore that he couldn’t cut it as a rapper.
@@cormacthem8406 He is a one hit wonder
Its not that at all.
He white and everything he touches turns platinum with diamonds😂
Eminem paid his dues through the underground rap scene. He is definitely part of the culture.
not to me he is not
I can’t agree with any of this... Em speaks about being thankful to Dre for the opportunity he was given and being a guest in the house of hip-hop in every second song. The interview with Zane Lowe was proof - if any more was needed - he is a student of the genre and loves it deeply. People can like who they like and choose to not include him in their favourite rapper list, but his place in hip-hop is undisputed. The attempt to rewrite this and nudge him out now because he’s “not played” at shows certain individuals attend is absolutely crazy.
Eminem has a lot of fans that’s says “I don’t listen to rap music but Eminem...”
We can't blame Em for that tho.
That’s not his primary fan base but yes they do know exist
@@timy9197 actually, it is. Nobody sells records like that unless you managed to appeal to almost every type of person, which includes people who would never tell you who's Rakim or KRS but would sing along to Without Me.
@@antona.1327 that doesn’t make it his primary fan base. That’s just saying he has a broader fan base. And people not knowing who Rakim and KRS is is more of a generational thing if anything. There’s rappers right now who don’t know their history.
Exactly
Eminem is still the best selling male artist of the 2010’s, and the third most streamed artist of the decade as well. I just don’t think his music is played at the club or at a kickback. You play it in the car, small groups, or alone in your headphones. He’s just too old school at heart.
Drake is the best selling in 2010s
Majority of his music is garbage
AND......
"he gets busy but who listens to his music..."? he ask 5 people in a room..smdh
What these guys aren't taking into consideration is that em is worldwide as worldwide gets. America isn't the whole world. Eminem is played in a lot of places.
Em is played everywhere. Except racist clubs that don't play any white music.
Black culture don’t like it storm the capital building 😂😂😂 you don’t make the rules. The culture is denouncing him. Black culture
@@ibrahimgritly3938 fr, he thinks the whole fking world is America 🙄 ffs
i am from Pakistan and here alot of rappers are influenced by him. Even in India, Emiway bantai is the biggest rapper there and he idolizes em. Eminem has global impact which is something people who hate em can't digest.
to me eminem is an artist you listen to by yourself. He ain't someone you listen to with a bunch of people around cause ... to me anyway you listen to him to hear what he has to say and how he raps.
Totally agree. Great and very underrated point.
I listen to Eminem with friends... All these stupid ass rules🤣
@@dje.z.e9091 I know right??? 😂😂😂 Fuck these garbage "rules".
Even my fucking SUPERMARKET plays Eminem songs.
Mouse: “I take ANY black man over Larry Bird”
Also Mouse: “It aint about race”
Also also Mouse: *Loses*
also also 😂😂😂
Mal is not the sharpest tool in the box, is he?
Also also 💀
@@kh7688 he aint even in the box
I understand because no white man will be the MVP ever again
What do you mean!? Evens my grandma listens to Eminem’s music...I think only in America people refuse to listen to Eminem music on the radio (besides the fans)...but all over the world people plays Eminem’s music over the radio.
Your comment doesn't help the argument... lol, "my grandma listens to Em" wow, that's awesome dude!!! Lmfao 😅🤣😂
Rap is subjective to the listener. Nobody wants to see Eminem Vs. Snoop Dogg. They both are legends.
I do want to see it, so they put some respect on em's name
Foh oldhead fights some heat
Em fans are hurt so they want to see it lol
Exactly
nobody wants to see that shit because em would smoke tf outta snoop lmao.
and snoop could have just talked to Eminem in private about whatever he has against him instead of in an interview with the breakfast club
Can you send me the link for the interview with snoop, please
He had nothing against em. He was just asked a question and he answered. No one is obligated to like Em music just because the masses praise his music. Snoop is a legend who came up with pac from a whole other era and lane of rap. Please tell me why tf would snoop 50 year old man have em in his top 10?
@@larrymarc438 em wasn’t mad about that he clearly said that, em was mad at the fact the snoop said “I can live without that shit” talking about Eminem’s music
@@larrymarc438 while I agree with your statement, let me clarify something. Snoop didn’t come up with Pac. When Snoop heard Suge wanted to sign Pac from prison, snoop tried to tell Suge no because “he was the main star, not Pac”. Then when Suge went through with it, snoop tried to play nice in Pacs face while backdooring him when he wasn’t around. He continued to talk shit about Pac bc he was jealous of Pac becoming the number 1 at death row and that’s why Pac stopped fucking with him before he passed. I love Snoop but he’s always been a snake with that shit. Turned on Dre in the mid 90s too. Said he didn’t need him, then reunited only when it benefit him. He’s not a true homie.
@@larrymarc438 "Snoop was asked" nah sir, nobody asked snoop about Eminem, He was praising Dre and he suddenly said "Eminem!!! The great white hope, white people had zero respect in the culture, Dre pushed Eminem to a point where many people consider him a top10 rapper, I DONT THINK SO, but the game feels like he is" Em himself didnt get offended bcuz of this but if I was him, I would... like, just Dre giving me beats is the reason why I am top10? Didnt I myself write the lyrics, killing verses, have the flow & delivery?... Yall can keep denying it but Anyways Snoop was being disrespectful toward Em.
Y’all love when Jay, Diddy, drake or 50 do something petty but as soon as someone like Eminem does it and you have a field day 😂
Mal is Roc Nation
Rory works for D’usse
Budden works for revolt
And they don’t want the smoke that comes with 50 lol
This is all the result of:
*"The day you put out a hit is the day Diddy admits he put the hit out that got Pac killed. Yaagh!"*
I’m just playing diddy you know I love you 😘
He cut the em interview off to soon...joe really is still salty isn’t he?!?
Yup
You noticed that too... he cut it off right when Em voiced his actual issue with it
Joe lost points with this one
Joes always cutting off shit too early before it gets to the important thing tho😂 i cant fault him for it
He has to make everything about him, that’s so annoying. They’re really trying to play Em.
@Keepin it Real I didn’t have much control over that blame my mother! 😂😂😂😂
Again, people ignore the main issue Em had with what Snoop said, which was that he can live without his music in hip-hop in a very agressive tone and gaze.
"Live without that SHIT"
I hear Em in:
-my ride
- the airport
-Retail store bathrooms
- video game commercials
-Top 40 radio stations
Mal: no-one listens to Em
Mal: snoop deserves the EM verse
Em is the highest selling rapper of all time. Ever.
Remember he's the higher selling rapper bec he's white. And he have the black people and white people sales..... Remember M pass Tupac who died in his twenties... Let that sink in... Their are more white ppl then any other race... Of course M going sell more records. Honestly I like M music. He's in my top 100 not top 10... There are ppl who say Tupac or Biggie is their top rapper and these guys died in 90s bro.
@@truegrizzlesfan2292 great point. For some reason people want to think he's the greatest rapper because he sold the most records. To me, this was systematically done to further destroy the culture.
@@aSpeakerOfTheTruth i didnt even know his race until i was 17
yall just racist
@@ICantFindMyKnuttsFTLC4L just because YOU don't know something, doesn't mean that there isn't someone else who does. You obviously don't even know what "racist" means.
Why TF would they stop Em's response right at the point he would explain the actual reason???? That annoyed me
So the interview was cut off when Em was saying what bothered him....come on Joe play the full clip next time and the give your response
“he can rap. He can put words together very well” the man actually can rhyme words that nobody could even fathom.
@@Logan-sk7ld "many" lol sure
But do they have lose yourself, till i collapse, not afraid, the way i am, when im gone? I could continue forever but there's no point
@@Logan-sk7ld papoose, joyner, kweli 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Logan-sk7ld see I agree with a lot of what you said up until “but he’s DEFINITELY not the best rapper ever” obviously the title of best rapper is a subjective one but look across the metrics eminem is close to or at the top in most if not all of them he has longevity, flow, lyricism, impact, and diversity in types of music he puts out which is something not too many have don’t get me mistaken there are plenty of arguments to be made for tons of other rappers out there but to say he definitely isn’t the best despite all of his accomplishments is unfair imo
@@Logan-sk7ld (Warning this is long lmao) Ok subjective probably wasn’t the right world I’ll say that much I meant skill can be viewed differently depending on the person because if Person A thinks good flow has more validity and requieres more skill compared to lyricism then they may praise someone such as Notorious B.I.G over Joyner Lucas (not saying this is me or you btw just an easy example) as for songs that are unique in lyrical technicality just off his newest album alone MTBMB (side a) there are two songs with the same concept but are executed differently Darkness where the first two and a portion of the third verses are all completely a double entendre about the tragic Las Vegas shooting and anxiety when he performs at concerts as well as the song Never Love Again where the entirety of the song is a double entendre about on of his ex’s (likely Kim never explicitly said tho) and his former drug abuse. Also I did look up to see if anyone has done something similar couldn’t personally find anything tho. I’ve listened to some of the songs you mentioned already and agree undoubtedly amazing talent was put into those songs will have to check out the rest I’m sure they are great tho. As for triple entendres hears one from infinite that I remember gave me a good laugh (infinite is em’s first studio album before the sslp for those who don’t know) “Cause you can be quick jump the candlestick and burn your back but fuck Jill on a Hill, but you still ain’t Jack.” In terms of story complexity idk what exactly you mean (as in lyrical complexity or attention to detail of the story or both) so I cannot say anything of that yet. When it comes to multi syllable rhyming if you want to see Eminem at his top the song “Right For Me” is packed almost entirely with them but his average songs he puts out still have multiple layers of rhyme schemes and after typing this I’ll go see the colored rhyme schemes of both Big Pun and Az to get a more in detailed comparison. I personally see fast rap as extra credit in a sense not being able to rap fast imo dos t necessarily make you worse but if you can pull it off it makes you better ik Eminem isn’t top ten in fast rap anyone who believes that needs to do a bit more research but to his credit he is fairly fast and as of now only getting faster and on top of that when he speaks the words come out clearly (not saying those who are faster then him don’t speak clearly but there are a few). Now I’m not sure what exactly your standers are for albums to be considered “amongst the best of all time” but I’ve constantly heard the mmlp tes and even sslp all argued as rap classics/essentials and although we would have to wait for the future MTBMB might also be considered as a modern classic since its, imo, his best in a while. Rap was founded about talking through struggles in life so ofc Eminem is going to have songs about his many struggles I was referring to execution on these themes in different albums when he talks about similar stuff he adds a twist to it. As for revival everyone has their own opinion but he did what the people wanted then it got criticized before it even released cause people didn’t like the track list then when they say “we want old shady back” he again try’s to give the people that and then get criticized again for it. And to be honest we all have our own opinions and that’s fine if you don’t agree that Eminem is a contender for the top spot now ima go to bed it’s late lol.
ik this is kinda late but I realized in one of my earlier comments I mentioned the album “Infinite” had a Triple entendre which it did but that didn’t mean his old songs only have triple entendres he also have them in albums as recent as “Music to Be Murdered By Side A” such as “Ain’t shit I won’t do just to get a few UA-cam views Run up in a church like pew, pew, pew” pew pew pew as in the noise a gun makes pew pew pew as in church pews (the long bench things all churches have) and pew pew pew as in when that church shooter had said subscribe to pewdiepie
Sidenote: Em's the 4th most streamed artist on Spotify and the best selling music artist of the 21st century. I guess somewhere his music is played
Pandora is America only and i think he is the 3rd or 4th most played in Pandora he has 13B streams in Pandora.
Joe has obviously had conversions about his tone the way he speaks about people, which is why is he mad at that.
That part
Tone matters Joe is an idiot if he doesn't think so
I play old EMINEM a lot. He one of the most clever rapper's i ever heard.
Absolutely
I am!
@KATY MAKROPOULOS His first 3 projects were his best in my opinion.
@KATY MAKROPOULOS hot take:new eminem>old eminem
EM is but not great.
What drives me nuts is that they didn't finish the Eminem interview clip to hear what really bothers Eminem from Snoop. That Snoop can live without eminem's music. I think the fact that its coming from like family, it just hurts more.
It isn’t JUST ABOUT lyricism.... Eminem is a TOP lyricist in rap history, he’s sellable, he has a personality and a character he plays, he put out dozens upon dozens upon dozens of HITS. He speaks emotions .... relatable ...
Mal you lost all credibility brother. When people who dont listen or know any eminem songs they all say the same things "no substance and raps about killing mother/wife", Mal you really went down that path. smh
OK, Stan. Ya'll act like people supposed to use restraint with your "goat". Not everyone feels that way. Em is famous for rapping about that shit.
@@chadalahio8266 who listens to jay z last album 444? Maybe one song “ story of o.j “...but this Album isn’t played anywhere...
Facts
Snoop is two faced, Eminem has showed him nothing but love.
He is envious of his record sales and money I suppose and thinks he doesn’t deserve it. Simple when you break it down.
Nah you two faced he kept it 💯.
Name one artist been in the game as long as Em he can beat in a verzuz battle?
Tupac knew it.
Snoop said something about earning his stripes. Em didn't earn his stripes??
What like hooking up with Dre straight out of school and making a very high budget album produced by a hip hop legend when lyrically you have broken nursery rhymes and lifts from past artists like "Lodi Dodi".
Em earned his stripes more than Snoop did. Snoop got it easy and his rhyme schemes show that. He's no Nas or Canibus.
@Jerome Hartig Prick I never said that lol.
Doggystyle is still in my top 10 hip hop albums. Nothing Canibus has done has ever come close.
You really need to learn how to read
Dont be discussing a beef when y'all got bias.. lol. It becomes insignificant.
Exactly 🙄💯
💯💯💯
I don't get it, what type of bias? Bias towards who? Everything they said had no bias in it. Just because they aren't stans of Em like they are of someone like Jay it doesn't mean they are already bias against Em all the time.
100%
@@JaayCeez bias is cutting the clip early and making a lazy argument. Joe did that
They didn't even listen to the entire interview.
Mal - “ there are people from our culture that make the same type of rap , but we don’t speak about it “
Joe -“ like who ??“
Mal - “ no internet connection “
😂😂😂
Mal seems... how should I put this delicately? Less smart? He makes no sense, not just on this subject, but quite frequently.
Idk how hopsin didn't come to mind
@@Gizmo1990fasho Hopsin was the first name I thought of.
Hopsin is an Eminem stan so that's a given
You can’t come to the next Slaughter House video.........
.....BACKGROUND: You can’t either
Joe Budden:.....GOOD POINT
7:10 I didn't like Joe's tone here, as he started talking about Eminem's tone, who in turn didn't appreciate Snoop's tone.
You know I actually don't like your tone in assessing Joe's tone when he spoke of Em's tone describing Snoop's tone.
Buawahahahaha, hahahaha, hahaha, haha, ha..... whew..... that made me giggle
@@therealwellin5846 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is just hilarious how people still hate on Eminem. Eminem is on another different level that’s crazy people don’t even know what they are talking about lol
They didnt even listen the full audio of the interview... How the f can joe say its the tone when he didnt even listen to the full explaination.. I understand tho, you got to make f'dup conversation like all media.
Play out the whole clip before you give your thoughts, he was just about to say that he could get past the tone too till the last statement by snoop, y'all lazy af for that
Facts
Joe steady dropping slaughterhouse link ups, they need to come back
I wish. That was a legit group that couldn't quite weave their talent together as a whole. I really wish they could give us that album we all know they can make
Slaughterhouse not fucking with joe like that anymore
@@KasimirStanley Crook and Joell been literally tryna get him out of retirement and Royce and Joe were on Clubhouse together a couple days ago and has stated he not doing anything slaughterhouse without Joe 🤷🏽♂️ . You a dumbass 😂
Biggamane Da Beast Joe was nice but always felt the group was better off without him.
@Wayne Ford You right , mia culpa .
The guy on the stool gives the impression of a man who has never had any of his opinions challenged before. No ability to defend his position whatsoever.
Agreed he just pissed me off with that I love Em shit 🙄