From 4 festor hit squad to being one of the best political pundits I've ever seen, the Tiny story arcs could be a feature length film at this point lol.
Ah yes, truly a maverick of our time. An extremely online political pundit who recently had a very public and humiliating divorce from his open marriage. Who recently also had very humiliating sex tapes and nudes released that likely would never have existed if not for his extremely degenerate lifestyle. Who is so great at establishing dialogue by openly stating that he will laugh and mock his political opponents should they be murdered by political terrorists. Without him, truly the party is lost.
Ben Wickler is my favorite candidate so far. While I really enjoyed omalleys views and energy I think Bens focus on getting engagement by finding state and local victories will yield a stronger party.
Thank you for speaking your truth. Honestly, it feels like you don't have power over anything today after all that we have been through. In reality, the only reason Wisconsin is in such a ruined state is because of woke morons.
I feel like one of the biggest obstacles in the democrats way is the fact the dinosaurs in the party don't want to hand over the reigns and they've surrounded themselves with people who are too chickenshit to just rip it out of their hands.
Many of us watched the gop go batshitinsane because they allowed the crazies of their party to do exactly what you said. There is a way, just not rip it all at once.
The main problem is that the world has changed; we are post-truth. The dems are, generally speaking, far more connected to reality than republicans, and lying is a very effective strategy; otherwise nobody would use it. The only way to win is to control the media environment to some extent. Unfortunately, media is totally in the hands of republicans, and I don’t see that changing any time soon. The dems can have the best messaging in the world, but if it never gets in front of the public due to an antagonistic media environment, it’s worthless.
Destiny and this guest - and most progressives - don’t get what’s sitting right in front of their face: it’s not about changing the media or coming up with a miraculous strategy - it’s just finding the right charismatic person to mobilize the left. That’s what Trump was able to do and he’s an empty shell of a person.
@@etizzle915you know you're just saying random shit, shit without proof or meaning. Idk how can you be so bitter about a destiny interview that you say this.
If this guys loses, I’m out bruh. I live in Wisconsin. Our state was rigged for years. This man needs to be rewarded for bringing democracy back to the state.
This guy perfectly articulated 90% of how I feel about democratic politics and how it should work. The only thing that I would also emphasize a little more is the equality under the law principle to appeal to the middle class specifically.
This guy is not a charismatic speaker, but he hit the nail on the head concerning the systemic and messaging problems we face. I think he would do a great job as DNC chair, and I hope he wins.
@@witchking6787my thoughts too. This guy is by far my favourite of the candidates thus far, he spoke great and eloquently and genuinely has a pleasing voice, all while hitting a lot of good points.
The seesaw analogy was really good- if you want a balanced media environment you don’t do it by sitting in the middle and trying not to piss anyone off. You treat everyone equally by going after lies and false narratives, no matter who they come from and if they all happen to be coming from one source on one side then you don’t hold back!
Also you don’t fight back by ‘debating’. You do it by presenting facts and disproving lies. It’s crazy to me that ‘fact-checking’ has become some kind of taboo political practice- that’s all the media should ever be doing!
This might have had a chance of working, but the problem is that they've been labeled as the devil for years. A politician telling the truth doesn’t help if the audience already sees them as the devil.
@ Since Newt/Rush and yes I’m that old😂Newt would spend hours talking to an empty house chamber using c-span cameras and middle America ate that 💩up and what did Dems do, nothing, that’s what.
WOW...someone actually understands the dynamics of Covid era support and the impacts on economic sentiment. Absolutely insane how little this was messaged.
I think the biggest thing I'm drawing from listening is that we as Democrats need to, not necessarily lie, but stop nerd emojiing on the truth. Sacrifice honesty for clear emotional """"connection"""" to common folk who barely think about these issues. Make a narrative about an enemy that we need to fight against, to hype people up. Lead with the truth, with your story, and barely cover their side in an aftermath.
Wow, talk about saying the quiet part out loud. "Just trust us, even though we're lying to you it's for your own good bc we know what's best for you, just give us the power, the power, and we'll fix your shitty little lives".
@@etizzle915 Would you rather have "Just trust us, even though we're lying to you it's for your own good bc we know what's best for you, just give us the power, the power, and we'll fix your shitty little lives". Or "Just trust us, we will blatantly lie to you, we will hurt your rights, your freedoms, we will hoard our wealth and make you give us yours". These are your options. The public doesn't want politicians to be truthful to them. They want to feel good and they will do anything to do that.
When we run a message of meaningful change, when their disinformation is challenged by hope and optimism, enough people will join that everyone else will see the results.
Ben makes a great point. Making messaging that is just Pearl clutching over Republican hypocrisy is going to fall on deaf ears because they just don't care. You can't shame the shameless. We need to instead constantly remind people how much they suck and how bad and terrible they are at their job.
Definitely my favorite candidate interviewed so far. Hopefully he and O’Malley can work together to integrate their respective successes regardless of the election outcome
The truth is great and all but it is pretty obvious that the truth is not what people want. This is foundational in psychology, most people would rather live in fantasy land and would follow whoever can sell them on that.
Thats exactly how I feel about why people buy into socialism/ economic authoritarianism. Its a fantasy list of ideals people fallow bec its what the media sells them.
Would it be accurate then to say we need to switch up culturally? I feel like the liberal cultural climate might have been a bigger obstacle then people acknowledge
Some, though I think and this won’t sound great, we do need to dumb this stuff down. Those of us who are engrossed in politics understand this stuff, the mom and dad who tune in right before the election while working and whatnot do not have the time. Dumb it down for normal folks.
Where is the claim that Trump wants to get rid of overtime coming from? This keeps being brought up but his policy he advocated for on the campaign trail was that he wanted to get rid of TAXES for overtime. Quite the opposite.
@ why would an employer care whether or not the government takes a cut of the money they pay employees? The rate would be the same, if anything it would be easier for them to fill overtime roles because the employee keeps more of their money.
I don’t think you have the slightest idea on how to infer meaning from a question. You’re the one who jumped to an unproven conclusion from a stated policy.
As a liberal democrat in central AR the 3 main reasons I have issue with is the democratic policies concerning immigration, military power/use and LGBTQ rights. The democrats will continue to lose if they cater to minorities instead of just being big tent. The immigrants do take american jobs. The war against hamas and any non democratic groups is right and the LGBTQ push and wokeness went way too far. And I came from a same sex home growing up. Southern democrats need to return to their roots in common sense working class big tent policies.
6:30 It feels so close, but I think it's missing the mark. To answer the question I would say that you can acknowledge that the Biden administration has done good things, however you and the media gaslit the people with the whole vibecession argument. You can acknowledge the good, but you did so by directly arguing that the people who were saying the economy was doing poorly just didn't understand. That was true, but only because people judge the economy differently. They meant that they are worse off in the economy and that is how most people interpret the status of the economy. You didn't need to fight against that to give Biden credit and I don't understand why it was such a common narrative. He does pretty good addressing this. I actually thought this was one of the best parts of Harris's campaign. However he misses the mark again by pointing to specific pandemic era policies expiring. If you look overall at wages vs inflation people are still on average worse off than before the pandemic. The tax credit was good and certainly helped offset that, but arguing for a tax credit as a solution to people's economic problems is not really an answer. I would go on, but acknowledging the problem is one step and providing solutions is the next. The last thing is that the Democrats need to focus on the middle class. They have spent far too much of the past decade focusing on the poor and disenfranchised. When they look to make changes it isn't ever actually the rich that pay for it in Democratic bills, it is usually the middle class that ends up paying.
God, the amount this guy just operates in the progressive sloganeering 'corporate media' 'ultrawealthy' 'rigged economy' and etc is v annoying. As someone who lived in WI for part of this cycle, the incessant texts, multiple door knocks and pamphlets each day, and annoying moveon style messaging was NOT a plus and was def inefficient. Ive liked all the other candidates interviewed thus far a lot more. The successes in Wisconsin(and by success I mean just clawing back to almost even in a state that generally should be favorable for democrats already) I think are far more influenced by Republicans clearly going too far in an easy to understand/visible way than this guy's strategies.
Absolutely. In one video Destiny mentioned how often he manages to convince people that he's not one of those crazies... but then struggles to convince the interlocutor to join forces with the broader group that contains the crazies. The solution is obvious (though not easy): make the broader group only contain the sort of people who are not the crazies.
We see this from both sides. Host places soap box, uncontested drivel pours out with narry a term or notion challenged, everybody who watched walks away as if no video had been watched at all. Edit: I watched Destiny steadily for quite a while. Now that he's on his Operative Arc, I just can't watch. He's so much smarter than this. Challenging people you agree with, especially in this setting, is exactly how you elevate the message and expand the listenership.
at 17:30 when Ben says that the media tracks conflict this is something that I have been thinking about a lot and I think it would do the Democrats a huge service to actually have intentional conflict in their own party over small issues to try and control media cycles.
How about ACTUAL LIBERAL IDEALS like Free Speech, Anti-War, Anti-WallSt. You know, Live and Let live? Before the 2024 Democrats became the party of Dick Cheney
No. Everything is great and even though every human experience is getting considerably worse in the most powerful nation on the planet, GDP go up! So get in line liberal.
Can someone send me a source or article about Republicans ending overtime pay? I googled it and all I see is Republicans wanting to end tax on overtime pay. Is it being covered up?
Would be interested to hear this guy explain what’s “right” and “far right” in his mind. If you’re looking for weaknesses in the dem platform, don’t underestimate how harmful it is to transparently use smears against anyone who disagrees with you. I assure you that calling everything “far right” is counterproductive.
Everyone needs to look up Ian Haney López's Race-Class Narrative. We need more than just economic populism: we need a _counter-narrative_ to the conservative media environment that has been developing for not just years, but _decades_ going back to Nixon with the founding of Fox News.
In this environment, Democrats need someone who points out the lies in an entertaining way. We can avoid fighting lies with lies by using exaggerating or hyberbolic arguments since people love sensationalism. One way to do this is having a comedian run for office. A Jon Stewart character that leans into engage the public through the other side’s lies and contradictions.
It's not about integrity or consistency. It's about not playing ball. Some just can't operate within systems, especially young dudes. They need something to lose first, a buy-in. The military used to be such but it's also highly volatile in stoking unnecessary conflict. Give people something to lose and they might want to contribute. This is coming from a Soc-Dem so I am sympathetic to Destiny's journey.
It took Wisconsin 14 years to undo the gerrymandering from 2010, the legislative damage will last far longer. America & it's states/commonwealths need to address the method of choosing representation, the current method of politicians selecting their constitutes is not working.
This dude started out by saying all republicans do is divide and went on a 10 minute division conquest. 😂😂 this is Tim pool level content. Is destiny gonna become the left Tim pool? 3 time Republican voter switched left this time because of content exactly not like this. Destinys new milk toast liberal boring drivel is like almost as bad as a vaush video
A 50 State strategy sounds great but a 40 State strategy would be extremely ambitious unless the red State parties are free to deviate from the national Party platform. 10 States have no Democrats in Congress.
We need actual plans to address spamming of trash information…but he’s right you gotta recognize the change in landscape and methods of politics now. Can’t Keep be a generic approach.
The online left needs to put their petty grievances aside and purity testing nonsense and unite. That is the only way they can hope to fight the rights sphere of influence in the media now.
@kloutkulture I posted the same sentiment on Reddit and got downvoted to hell, but you’re right. We’re churning drama to stay distracted from the cesspool this country is in danger of becoming. hopefully online left gets its shit together quick.
@cerkitbreaker Can either of you explain to me what the “online left” means? And “purity tests” of what? Is this issue purely online? Please explain with examples.
@babyamyxo-o6c By online left I simply mean left-of-center/liberal/progressive political commentators/pundits. An example of a purity test is the Gaza litmus test… commentators (e.g. Hasan Piker among multitudes) who will rebuke any Democratic candidate or left leaning commentator who is not categorically against Israel, and who treats such candidates or commentators as greater enemies to the cause than a right wing opponent.
The left has too many pet issues that disqualify voters from being allowed in the club if they dont agree. The party needs to be more willing to reach out to moderates and become the party of the working class again. The republicans took that title this past election and that's why they won.
So what you’re saying is that meth and lsd can be combined even while on ssri’s in racist white men and produce results that will make a difference in changing everything based on results that like according to change result in democracy. Awesome dude! 😎
When this guy keeps mentioning "Progressive Media" , instead of "liberal media" , it keeps reminding me of HamasAbi and his twitch crew and alarms start sounding in my head.
As a right winger, honest question, what do you all like about dems or the left? Other than things you don't like or fear about Trump or Republicans, what are your values, what is your vision for America? Other than fear mongering about racism, sexism, transphobia, and inequality etc.... there seems to be no other substance to the left. Nothing this guy said to me was inspiring at all. Why are people in the comments impressed?
As a Democrat/ Progressive, honest question… I’d ask you the same thing. Most of us could care less about Trump, we acknowledge he’s purely transactional and found the party that indulges him precisely because they have no true “values”. You’re experts at taking about “values” but even Trump understands those are negotiable with your party. We only hate what he’s done to this country and your party. “Don’t like or fear Trump” … What’s to like? Honest question.
Same question to you, other than fear mongering about Mexicans taking your jobs, trans people in sports, woke mind virus and DEI, the Republicans have nothing else other than cutting social spending that helps Americans and giving tax cuts to the rich. I’m not even American but I’ve been watching US politics for decades and it’s insane how much the Republican Party has changed in the past 10 years. Like, at least republicans like mitt Romney or john McCain were decent men even though I might disagree with some of their policies. Now the party is just full of conspiracy theorists and grifters.
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Great guest and interview, Destiny is just killing the game. Democrats are lucky to have him considering the failures of mainstream media.
Not really, especially with one of his older streams destiny admitted he watch a 8 and 14 year do something that Epstein likes.
From 4 festor hit squad to being one of the best political pundits I've ever seen, the Tiny story arcs could be a feature length film at this point lol.
@@Crossovahhidris elba needs to play destiny
Ah yes, truly a maverick of our time. An extremely online political pundit who recently had a very public and humiliating divorce from his open marriage. Who recently also had very humiliating sex tapes and nudes released that likely would never have existed if not for his extremely degenerate lifestyle. Who is so great at establishing dialogue by openly stating that he will laugh and mock his political opponents should they be murdered by political terrorists.
Without him, truly the party is lost.
@@MaximumBrandon-Peter Dinklage
Ben Wickler is my favorite candidate so far. While I really enjoyed omalleys views and energy I think Bens focus on getting engagement by finding state and local victories will yield a stronger party.
Agree best candidate so far.
Any approach that is not grass roots based is going to fail. I love the doubling down on our winners approach
As a Wisconsin resident, I can confirm that his description of how Scott Walker and the republicans ruined the state is 100% true.
Thank you for speaking your truth. Honestly, it feels like you don't have power over anything today after all that we have been through. In reality, the only reason Wisconsin is in such a ruined state is because of woke morons.
Then why did it go red.
@@ethanjohnson2849 Because state politics don't map on to federal politics.
@@dwil0311 If state politics doesn't map on to federal politics then Kamala wouldn't be off the wagon 💪🏻💪🏻
@@jojipoji2322That doesn't make any sense dude.
I feel like one of the biggest obstacles in the democrats way is the fact the dinosaurs in the party don't want to hand over the reigns and they've surrounded themselves with people who are too chickenshit to just rip it out of their hands.
Many of us watched the gop go batshitinsane because they allowed the crazies of their party to do exactly what you said. There is a way, just not rip it all at once.
The main problem is that the world has changed; we are post-truth. The dems are, generally speaking, far more connected to reality than republicans, and lying is a very effective strategy; otherwise nobody would use it.
The only way to win is to control the media environment to some extent. Unfortunately, media is totally in the hands of republicans, and I don’t see that changing any time soon.
The dems can have the best messaging in the world, but if it never gets in front of the public due to an antagonistic media environment, it’s worthless.
@@ismeal231 the actual biggest obstacle is extremists wackjobs like you.
Destiny and this guest - and most progressives - don’t get what’s sitting right in front of their face: it’s not about changing the media or coming up with a miraculous strategy - it’s just finding the right charismatic person to mobilize the left. That’s what Trump was able to do and he’s an empty shell of a person.
Who are are we talking about in particular to take these reigns from and who gets them?
First! Also, great to see Destiny getting politicaly active again. This is the content I wanted to see more of since 2016 lol.
Fr ever since he got medicated (which I trust that him & his doctors know its something helpful) his content has gotten so much better
Yeah, now that he's getting dnc money
@@etizzle915you know you're just saying random shit, shit without proof or meaning. Idk how can you be so bitter about a destiny interview that you say this.
Trump brings the best out of Destiny, the Biden years were snooze fests lol
@@StarBoy0100 not true we had the red pill haha
I'm not going to lie. I never heard of this guy before but I really like him.
He has a contemporary Michael Moore vibe....
That guy preaches free money for plebs. He is crazy communist
Me too, he’s so on point
If this guys loses, I’m out bruh.
I live in Wisconsin. Our state was rigged for years. This man needs to be rewarded for bringing democracy back to the state.
This guy perfectly articulated 90% of how I feel about democratic politics and how it should work. The only thing that I would also emphasize a little more is the equality under the law principle to appeal to the middle class specifically.
"If the glove does not fit, you must acquit!"
The DEI people dont like hearing the word equality.
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Weird to have multiple good candidates for something, politics of last decades were all about choosing the lesser evil, nice to be spoiled for choice.
This guy is not a charismatic speaker, but he hit the nail on the head concerning the systemic and messaging problems we face. I think he would do a great job as DNC chair, and I hope he wins.
he's got a smooth gravelly voice, an affable demeanor. Maybe I'm just not understanding how you define charismatic.
MFers will call trump charsimatic as he rambles whatever his demented mind conjures up in that moment yet say that this man has no rizz
@@witchking6787my thoughts too. This guy is by far my favourite of the candidates thus far, he spoke great and eloquently and genuinely has a pleasing voice, all while hitting a lot of good points.
@@witchking6787online people don't understand what charisma is, it's why adin ross has viewers
You mean he doesn’t speak like a “strong man”
Jesus Christ, I hope this video gets waaaaaay more attention
Yeah bit of a shame it hasn't got that much traction
100k in the bubble of lefties.
Nobody in the center or right agrees with their ideology
This guy graduated cum laude from Harvard in economics... impressive.
CUM!?!?
The seesaw analogy was really good- if you want a balanced media environment you don’t do it by sitting in the middle and trying not to piss anyone off. You treat everyone equally by going after lies and false narratives, no matter who they come from and if they all happen to be coming from one source on one side then you don’t hold back!
Also you don’t fight back by ‘debating’. You do it by presenting facts and disproving lies. It’s crazy to me that ‘fact-checking’ has become some kind of taboo political practice- that’s all the media should ever be doing!
Great interview, keep pumping out this type of content
If Democrats looked like & acted more like this guy they'd run every state in the country. I hope he wins.
White?
RACIST!!!!
Destiny has upped his style ngl good job
Like a D cup in a B cup bra but at his belly lmao.
His shoes 🔥
@@Ddeen0 naahh those shoes are not it
"Leading with the truth" won't work if the media they watch says you're always lying.
Been saying Dems need to start going on RW media and whatnot, how are these viewers to hear the actual message otherwise?
This might have had a chance of working, but the problem is that they've been labeled as the devil for years.
A politician telling the truth doesn’t help if the audience already sees them as the devil.
@ Since Newt/Rush and yes I’m that old😂Newt would spend hours talking to an empty house chamber using c-span cameras and middle America ate that 💩up and what did Dems do, nothing, that’s what.
@@wittywolk Needs to be The Rock or Chris Stapleton telling them or something, someone who makes them question themselves
That's why you make your own popular media.
I LOVE these videos. Very informative. Great content. Keep it up!
WOW...someone actually understands the dynamics of Covid era support and the impacts on economic sentiment. Absolutely insane how little this was messaged.
I think the biggest thing I'm drawing from listening is that we as Democrats need to, not necessarily lie, but stop nerd emojiing on the truth. Sacrifice honesty for clear emotional """"connection"""" to common folk who barely think about these issues. Make a narrative about an enemy that we need to fight against, to hype people up. Lead with the truth, with your story, and barely cover their side in an aftermath.
You tried that already. That's why you lost! 💪🏻🇺🇸
"We as democrats now have to lie to have any chance of winning."
Wow, talk about saying the quiet part out loud. "Just trust us, even though we're lying to you it's for your own good bc we know what's best for you, just give us the power, the power, and we'll fix your shitty little lives".
@@etizzle915 Would you rather have "Just trust us, even though we're lying to you it's for your own good bc we know what's best for you, just give us the power, the power, and we'll fix your shitty little lives". Or "Just trust us, we will blatantly lie to you, we will hurt your rights, your freedoms, we will hoard our wealth and make you give us yours".
These are your options. The public doesn't want politicians to be truthful to them. They want to feel good and they will do anything to do that.
Damn this one attracted a lot of bots 💀
Its actually sad to hear someone lay out such an eloquent and optimistic plan while knowing that its all defeated by a single word: disinformation.
Truth.
When we run a message of meaningful change, when their disinformation is challenged by hope and optimism, enough people will join that everyone else will see the results.
@thornnorton5953 I hope you are right. But I suspect I will be cheering that event from abroad, and likely in my old age.
This guy seems awesome, favorite interview of potential dnc chair so far!
Heard about Ben from the Majority Report. Great to see him getting out there.
Wow, reasonable and insightful conversation in 2025, the Right could never.
They don't have to
Reasonable and insightful 😂 did we watch the same video
@@ColdfFlare what did you disagree with?
you lost the election
I love seeing stuff like this but bruh where was this messaging during the presidential race?
At least we're starting now 🤷
@Cysur that's true. At least it seems like they are trying to move in the right direction
Ben makes a great point. Making messaging that is just Pearl clutching over Republican hypocrisy is going to fall on deaf ears because they just don't care. You can't shame the shameless. We need to instead constantly remind people how much they suck and how bad and terrible they are at their job.
46:01 i really like his answer - no avoidance, directly addresses flaws in messaging and how to improve
This dude is smart as fuck
He's boring as fuck. Why would anyone be inspired by a person like this?
Democrats have also made it difficult to start business. And catered to monopoly’s.
Definitely my favorite candidate interviewed so far. Hopefully he and O’Malley can work together to integrate their respective successes regardless of the election outcome
Incredible conversation and interview between two incredibly intelligent guys. Great perspective and understanding, much appreciated, cheers!
You from another country or young or both?
Against Make America Great?? Why would any American citizen be against making America great?
Man I love this guy. He’s part of what we need
This was so refreshing.
I want him to win so desperately
The truth is great and all but it is pretty obvious that the truth is not what people want. This is foundational in psychology, most people would rather live in fantasy land and would follow whoever can sell them on that.
Thats exactly how I feel about why people buy into socialism/ economic authoritarianism. Its a fantasy list of ideals people fallow bec its what the media sells them.
Would it be accurate then to say we need to switch up culturally? I feel like the liberal cultural climate might have been a bigger obstacle then people acknowledge
Some, though I think and this won’t sound great, we do need to dumb this stuff down. Those of us who are engrossed in politics understand this stuff, the mom and dad who tune in right before the election while working and whatnot do not have the time. Dumb it down for normal folks.
An hour discussion about nothing….
I hope Dems listen to Ben
Great interview man, Ben is a very inspiring individual and I hope he get the Job of DNC chair
Ben Wikler I am supporting you bro.
he's great, this is the guy to pick tbh
How old are you
Wikler needs to be in charge
Please. Anybody this dumb will be funny. Like kamala
great video
I love this new arc Destiny is on. He’s killing it.
46:45 proud to say I was lifting during this comment😂
5:44 thanks for the animation
Where is the claim that Trump wants to get rid of overtime coming from? This keeps being brought up but his policy he advocated for on the campaign trail was that he wanted to get rid of TAXES for overtime. Quite the opposite.
@@Vhalan53 would any of the ramifications of that policy cause employers to stop issuing overtime at any cost? I have no idea
@ why would an employer care whether or not the government takes a cut of the money they pay employees? The rate would be the same, if anything it would be easier for them to fill overtime roles because the employee keeps more of their money.
@Vhalan53 IDK. I'm not an economists. You're statement was so basic that I'm confident you have no idea what the possible ramifications are either.
I don’t think you have the slightest idea on how to infer meaning from a question. You’re the one who jumped to an unproven conclusion from a stated policy.
@@danielfincher8439 you get asked a legitimate question and your answer is "idk lol".
I've listened to Ben talk on multiple platforms and the Democrats would be absolutely insane if they didn't choose this guy
this is the guy i want for dnc chair
LEAD WITH THE TRUTH,..... Love it!
As a liberal democrat in central AR the 3 main reasons I have issue with is the democratic policies concerning immigration, military power/use and LGBTQ rights. The democrats will continue to lose if they cater to minorities instead of just being big tent. The immigrants do take american jobs. The war against hamas and any non democratic groups is right and the LGBTQ push and wokeness went way too far. And I came from a same sex home growing up. Southern democrats need to return to their roots in common sense working class big tent policies.
You are not a liberal Democrat enough with the lies.
If this guy doesn't win, I'm gonna be real disillusioned with the decision makers in the party
Great as always, love the latest interviews.
I like him a lot.
6:30 It feels so close, but I think it's missing the mark.
To answer the question I would say that you can acknowledge that the Biden administration has done good things, however you and the media gaslit the people with the whole vibecession argument. You can acknowledge the good, but you did so by directly arguing that the people who were saying the economy was doing poorly just didn't understand. That was true, but only because people judge the economy differently. They meant that they are worse off in the economy and that is how most people interpret the status of the economy. You didn't need to fight against that to give Biden credit and I don't understand why it was such a common narrative.
He does pretty good addressing this. I actually thought this was one of the best parts of Harris's campaign. However he misses the mark again by pointing to specific pandemic era policies expiring. If you look overall at wages vs inflation people are still on average worse off than before the pandemic. The tax credit was good and certainly helped offset that, but arguing for a tax credit as a solution to people's economic problems is not really an answer. I would go on, but acknowledging the problem is one step and providing solutions is the next.
The last thing is that the Democrats need to focus on the middle class. They have spent far too much of the past decade focusing on the poor and disenfranchised. When they look to make changes it isn't ever actually the rich that pay for it in Democratic bills, it is usually the middle class that ends up paying.
49:06 is a great clip if it hasnt been shipped already
What a crazy good interview. Keep her movin!
God, the amount this guy just operates in the progressive sloganeering 'corporate media' 'ultrawealthy' 'rigged economy' and etc is v annoying. As someone who lived in WI for part of this cycle, the incessant texts, multiple door knocks and pamphlets each day, and annoying moveon style messaging was NOT a plus and was def inefficient. Ive liked all the other candidates interviewed thus far a lot more. The successes in Wisconsin(and by success I mean just clawing back to almost even in a state that generally should be favorable for democrats already) I think are far more influenced by Republicans clearly going too far in an easy to understand/visible way than this guy's strategies.
Nothing on positions just strategy…. That’s our Dem party?
Wisconsin has a lot of very strong democrats living in rural areas too. Love it.
Abandon the extreme elements of your party and grow your ranks. Easy
Absolutely. In one video Destiny mentioned how often he manages to convince people that he's not one of those crazies... but then struggles to convince the interlocutor to join forces with the broader group that contains the crazies. The solution is obvious (though not easy): make the broader group only contain the sort of people who are not the crazies.
We see this from both sides. Host places soap box, uncontested drivel pours out with narry a term or notion challenged, everybody who watched walks away as if no video had been watched at all.
Edit: I watched Destiny steadily for quite a while. Now that he's on his Operative Arc, I just can't watch. He's so much smarter than this.
Challenging people you agree with, especially in this setting, is exactly how you elevate the message and expand the listenership.
I really like ben wikler
This guy is the clear winning choice. Not only does he talk a good game, he has a proven working plan.
One thing that helps here in wisconsin, is the fact we had scott walker. He was a failure.
I have to ask if the Democrats even understand what went wrong?
No they don’t. Most are still in denial about why the base stayed home and allowed republicans to win control of everything
Loving this content! It’s appreciated
at 17:30 when Ben says that the media tracks conflict this is something that I have been thinking about a lot and I think it would do the Democrats a huge service to actually have intentional conflict in their own party over small issues to try and control media cycles.
Is his finger itching or something? Why does he do that to his shirt lol.
you promised a sword, you delivered a butter knife, you have nothing.
How about ACTUAL LIBERAL IDEALS like Free Speech, Anti-War, Anti-WallSt. You know, Live and Let live?
Before the 2024 Democrats became the party of Dick Cheney
No. Everything is great and even though every human experience is getting considerably worse in the most powerful nation on the planet, GDP go up! So get in line liberal.
BEN WIKLER PLEASE BE THE DNC CHAIRMAN
I agree with him
Deja vu. It’s like I’m back in 2016. That worked out well.
Can someone send me a source or article about Republicans ending overtime pay? I googled it and all I see is Republicans wanting to end tax on overtime pay. Is it being covered up?
Just research what he did last time as president and what he does regarding paying his own employees.
This guy gets it.
Would be interested to hear this guy explain what’s “right” and “far right” in his mind. If you’re looking for weaknesses in the dem platform, don’t underestimate how harmful it is to transparently use smears against anyone who disagrees with you. I assure you that calling everything “far right” is counterproductive.
This guy sure likes to ramble. This felt more like a job interview, this guy was selling himself so hard.
Great content Steven. Love this new direction, keep it up.❤
I love that you guys are doing this on slack :D
Yet another great discussion.
Everyone needs to look up Ian Haney López's Race-Class Narrative. We need more than just economic populism: we need a _counter-narrative_ to the conservative media environment that has been developing for not just years, but _decades_ going back to Nixon with the founding of Fox News.
When two proud gay men sit down and speak. I listen.
I got a Prague U ad when you guys were talking about getting democrats to pick fight 😂
In this environment, Democrats need someone who points out the lies in an entertaining way. We can avoid fighting lies with lies by using exaggerating or hyberbolic arguments since people love sensationalism.
One way to do this is having a comedian run for office. A Jon Stewart character that leans into engage the public through the other side’s lies and contradictions.
It's not about integrity or consistency. It's about not playing ball. Some just can't operate within systems, especially young dudes. They need something to lose first, a buy-in. The military used to be such but it's also highly volatile in stoking unnecessary conflict.
Give people something to lose and they might want to contribute. This is coming from a Soc-Dem so I am sympathetic to Destiny's journey.
You guys have some very good ideas..Good content 👍
It took Wisconsin 14 years to undo the gerrymandering from 2010, the legislative damage will last far longer.
America & it's states/commonwealths need to address the method of choosing representation, the current method of politicians selecting their constitutes is not working.
DESTINY I SHITTED MY PANTS
Destiny never turns away from facts, such as the fact that destiny is a girl's name. Thank you for your fact.
On god
misinformation, i need video evidence now
Good job Destiny, fight the fight.
I Followed Destiny for years and he made me switch sides. Thx bud! MEGA/MAGA
This dude started out by saying all republicans do is divide and went on a 10 minute division conquest. 😂😂 this is Tim pool level content. Is destiny gonna become the left Tim pool? 3 time Republican voter switched left this time because of content exactly not like this. Destinys new milk toast liberal boring drivel is like almost as bad as a vaush video
Don’t forget to ask why they are doing what they are doing, very important because both parties be scheming
A 50 State strategy sounds great but a 40 State strategy would be extremely ambitious unless the red State parties are free to deviate from the national Party platform. 10 States have no Democrats in Congress.
We need actual plans to address spamming of trash information…but he’s right you gotta recognize the change in landscape and methods of politics now. Can’t Keep be a generic approach.
The online left needs to put their petty grievances aside and purity testing nonsense and unite. That is the only way they can hope to fight the rights sphere of influence in the media now.
@kloutkulture I posted the same sentiment on Reddit and got downvoted to hell, but you’re right. We’re churning drama to stay distracted from the cesspool this country is in danger of becoming. hopefully online left gets its shit together quick.
@cerkitbreaker Can either of you explain to me what the “online left” means? And “purity tests” of what? Is this issue purely online? Please explain with examples.
@babyamyxo-o6c By online left I simply mean left-of-center/liberal/progressive political commentators/pundits. An example of a purity test is the Gaza litmus test… commentators (e.g. Hasan Piker among multitudes) who will rebuke any Democratic candidate or left leaning commentator who is not categorically against Israel, and who treats such candidates or commentators as greater enemies to the cause than a right wing opponent.
@@cerkitbreaker idk why you wasted your time explaining to them. If they don’t understand these self-explanatory terms they’re likely a troll
The left has too many pet issues that disqualify voters from being allowed in the club if they dont agree. The party needs to be more willing to reach out to moderates and become the party of the working class again. The republicans took that title this past election and that's why they won.
This guy has brought back some hope for me for the democratic party.
So what you’re saying is that meth and lsd can be combined even while on ssri’s in racist white men and produce results that will make a difference in changing everything based on results that like according to change result in democracy. Awesome dude! 😎
When this guy keeps mentioning "Progressive Media" , instead of "liberal media" , it keeps reminding me of HamasAbi and his twitch crew and alarms start sounding in my head.
As a right winger, honest question, what do you all like about dems or the left? Other than things you don't like or fear about Trump or Republicans, what are your values, what is your vision for America?
Other than fear mongering about racism, sexism, transphobia, and inequality etc.... there seems to be no other substance to the left.
Nothing this guy said to me was inspiring at all. Why are people in the comments impressed?
As a Democrat/ Progressive, honest question… I’d ask you the same thing. Most of us could care less about Trump, we acknowledge he’s purely transactional and found the party that indulges him precisely because they have no true “values”. You’re experts at taking about “values” but even Trump understands those are negotiable with your party. We only hate what he’s done to this country and your party. “Don’t like or fear Trump” … What’s to like? Honest question.
Same question to you, other than fear mongering about Mexicans taking your jobs, trans people in sports, woke mind virus and DEI, the Republicans have nothing else other than cutting social spending that helps Americans and giving tax cuts to the rich.
I’m not even American but I’ve been watching US politics for decades and it’s insane how much the Republican Party has changed in the past 10 years. Like, at least republicans like mitt Romney or john McCain were decent men even though I might disagree with some of their policies. Now the party is just full of conspiracy theorists and grifters.
@@altrevino3135you lost me at “most people don’t care about Trump”😂😂😂🍿🍿🍿
@rednuts903 What will you guys do when Trump's gone in 4-years? Genuine question.
@@babyamyxo-o6c we’ll be all celebrating the King Trumps re election remember 🤣🤣🤙