I have IT band tightness and muscles around my hips. I roll out on a TP roller, but I need something that goes deep. I can take the pain, but I need to get any scaring out. Which gun? Ekrin says the B37 has 30% more power. Did you notice a difference? Money is not an issue but if the features are really pretty much the same other than attachments, which would you choose?
Which is the Most Powerful mini massage gun? I am currently looking at the Ekrin Bantam vs. the Bob & Brad Q2. I want Powerful Stall Force? Any input is greatly appreciated.
Scott, love the videos! How important is ventilation for a massage gun? I see some that have a vent, like the Ekrin devices or ones that do not, like the Opove Apex. Thanks so much!
Scott,Im looking for a powerful device,I play soccer a lot.thats my main criteria.What would you recommend ?As long as the price is not supper retiqiolous
Not sure whether I should get one of these over the bob and Brad c2. I'm pretty stuck on the c2. I'm also fairly thin so thinking the 8mm on the c2 is plenty enough.
Great thoughts! Great choices. The one I carry is actually the B&B Q2. Even smaller and quieter yet just as strong. ua-cam.com/video/RGjDxfxVpS0/v-deo.html
I'm a boxer, biker, and runner. I'm an endurance athlete and my legs definitely need a massage gun (I didn't realize these were a thing until now, unfortunately). I'm looking at the Ekrin b37 (lifetime warranty and looks high quality), Sportneer D9 (cheap but have heard it's high quality), and the Opove M3. I want to seriously break up the lactic acid after workouts, reduce my downtime between intense workouts, and feel looser moving around, what would your suggestion be? I'm worried that 12mm may not deliver a good massage (I have never used a massage gun so I have no merit behind that other than seeing 16mm being higher, lol). Congratulations on having a quality channel and being on American Ninja Warrior. A lot of reviewers and self "entrepreneurs" seem very ingenuine and are clearly in it for money. You reply to all comments and seem like a good guy, so thanks for that.
Thanks for the compliments. Yes, I wanted a channel that I would want to watch and trust. That’s why I push products I think are worth it not the ones that pay me the most. I would highly recommend watching my latest comparison video. I think the Ekrin would be a good fit for you. I also love the Sportneer. I have a coupon codes for both of them, but only use if it’s the right fit for you. This video will help compare them against the high dollar ones. Let me know what other questions you have … Best Massage Guns Tested - Theragun, Hypervolt, Bob & Brad, Kraftgun ua-cam.com/video/tMUO5Y4AyYA/v-deo.html
@@BeforeYouBuyReview I'll watch that video now and will make my decision after; I am 100% using your code with whichever I get so you can get some coffee. If I do get the Ekrin it will be the B37 and not B37S, would you still recommend the Ekrin as a good fit in my scenario over the others if it is not the "S"? Again, the effort you put into this channel is amazing, I just shared with two gym friends who are looking for a massager as well. Thank you for your time.
Maniac, I'm also a cyclist... and a grad student which means I obsess over anecdotal claims vs. actual evidence. Many of these companies claim that percussive massage "flushes lactic acid." Let me be clear on this, it does not, full stop. There isn't any substantiated peer-reviewed research which demonstrates that percussive massagers confer a quantifiable difference in lactate levels in the muscle. Here's another fun fact... one hour after cessation of your workout, lactate levels return to their pre-workout baselines. As such the pain you feel will be related to something else... mainly the fact that you've just created a bunch of micro-tears in your muscles which need to be repaired. What these companies attempt to do is fool people with conjecture that sounds plausible enough to pass as real evidence. Vibration therapy and sports massage therapy are similar to percussive massage, right? Nope. They are different, different modalities, different mechanisms of efficacy. You can never assume that just because something seems similar, it will confer the same results. This is what they all base their marketing on... they cite results from studies that sound similar but in reality are unrelated. Sounds plausible, but that's just not how these things work. Another common claim borrowed from research into vibration therapy is that percussive massage increases blood flow and circulation, and therefor improves recovery. To my knowledge there is not a single placebo-controlled, randomized, peer-reviewed study which substantiates this, this is all merely marketing conjecture. What DOES improve circulation and blood flow resulting in a quantifiable improvement in recovery? Active recovery. If you do a HIIT workout with 4 reps of 8 minute intervals at 5% above FTP with 2 to 4 minutes rest in between each interval (one of the most effective peer-reviewed HIIT sessions for cyclists out there) then your next day should be at around 50% of your FTP. Foam-rolling is also evidence-based as is nutrition. Consumption of carbohydrates (NOT protein, the study that claimed that has since been refuted with better data as the initial study didn't control for caloric intake) after an intense workout is time-sensitive. Protein is important too (iirc about 1.2 to 1.4 grams per kilogram of body weight per day for elite athletes) but as long as you get it within your next big meal, you don't need to worry much. I'd HIGLY recommend Dylan Johnson's channel for evidence-based cycling information. He's a former Charmichael Training Systems coach and does an excellent job of providing multiple peer-reviewed evidence-based studies to all the claims he makes. In particular I'd recommend this video (he looks like he's 13, but I assure you, his videos are very well researched, I've come across many of the same articles he's cited in some of my graduate-level work): ua-cam.com/video/Bt8JbqrK9R8/v-deo.html So why am I here? Probably the best argument for massage guns... let's face it, they feel good. More research is needed but that by itself may confer a psychological advantage (and even if it doesn't, I don't care). There is limited research which suggests some performance benefits but it's week, and it doesn't add up to community consensus. Still "it feels good" (so long as they do no harm... which by the way... I'd keep these devices with a larger amplitude away from your neck) is a pretty good reason. I've tried the Theragun Pro, Achedaway Pro, and Sportneer D9. Oh... to answer the question, I'm here because I think BYB makes an attempt to quantify the performance of these devices. I used his pillow-on-a-scale test with the Achedaway Pro (which BTW is just a rebadged Chinese gun you can order off of AliExpress for a fraction of what the Achedaway Pro costs but I found that out after I ordered mine) and measured the stall-force at 25 pounds. The only reason I did that was because I saw them advertise 80 lbs of stall force and I was *easily* getting it to stall out on my quads. Nowhere near the stall force that the Theragun Pro had. It did have the travel they advertised at 16mm (measured with digital calipers). The Sportneer had neither the amplitude nor the stall force necessary to dig into a knotty quad. Also, while it looks like it's high quality, that's a bit of a facade. That metal piece near the head which makes it look beefy is literally a hot-glued facade. I know this because the one I received didn't have enough hot-glue applied during assembly and it fell off. Underneath it was plastic. The Theragun Pro wasn't mine, but it would have done the job (but I personally couldn't justify the price... nor do I think the engineering is worth it, search UA-cam for a Theragun Pro teardown). As BYB has mentioned, amplitude isn't everything, it's a combo of stall force AND amplitude that matters. As such I'm interested in the Ekrin devices and their higher stall forces. I'm also curious about the Opove Apex which I think is in the 14mm to 16mm range of amplitude and can be had on Amazon for around $159 with a coupon IIRC. As you posted a year ago, did you end up buying anything? What did you get, and can it dig in enough to those cycling and running quads and hammies? If I was just concerned about stuff above the belt there's so many more options that would make me happy... but damn those quads!
ekrin b37s VS lifepro pulse fx, which one is better in terms of reliability and how both guns operate, etc? I know they have almost identical Stall Force but which one should I buy?
The Pulse FX is no longer purchasable. I also thing the pivoting & body in general feels really cheap and hollow. I the B37S feels super solid. In terms of reliability I haven’t had an issue with either one
You bet! Happy to help! That’s a tough call. I would maybe lean towards the Sportneer. Especially with discount code it’s much cheaper. The B37S is stronger and seems like a better quality with locking heads etc, but Sportneer brings great value and metal tips
That was before I had my micrometer to be honest. Thanks for the added info. I did remeasure the B37S on my recent comparison and show the different depths ua-cam.com/video/tMUO5Y4AyYA/v-deo.html
This is the best full size massager in my opinion. The locking mechanism, amazing customer service from the company, stall force and angled handle make this better than the theragun
Can the flat head on the b37 also be used with ointment? I don’t see any additional attachment accessory options on their site that’s similar to that for the b37
They are definitely very similar. The B37 there’s a little stronger, but I think that’s about all I’ve noticed in use. The B37S Is the one that adds extra features and power
So right now the b37s has bluetooth compatibility but is not activated yet by ekrin because they are still developing the app, or they will make a new massage gun for that..? Thanks , I hope you answer this question...
The B37S is definitely stronger, not the B37. It does come with some heft and a more expensive price. If those two things aren’t factors and you want a solid massage gun, go for the B37S. You can see stall force compared in my recent video: ua-cam.com/video/jQ7ppb5TacM/v-deo.html
Do you think the extra 100.00 is worth the 37s over 37? I think the variable resistance level on level 5 and the higher rpm’s and level 1-3 for me amd returning my 37
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I have IT band tightness and muscles around my hips. I roll out on a TP roller, but I need something that goes deep. I can take the pain, but I need to get any scaring out. Which gun? Ekrin says the B37 has 30% more power. Did you notice a difference? Money is not an issue but if the features are really pretty much the same other than attachments, which would you choose?
Which is the Most Powerful mini massage gun? I am currently looking at the Ekrin Bantam vs. the Bob & Brad Q2. I want Powerful Stall Force? Any input is greatly appreciated.
Scott, love the videos! How important is ventilation for a massage gun? I see some that have a vent, like the Ekrin devices or ones that do not, like the Opove Apex. Thanks so much!
Scott,Im looking for a powerful device,I play soccer a lot.thats my main criteria.What would you recommend ?As long as the price is not supper retiqiolous
Not sure whether I should get one of these over the bob and Brad c2. I'm pretty stuck on the c2. I'm also fairly thin so thinking the 8mm on the c2 is plenty enough.
Great thoughts! Great choices. The one I carry is actually the B&B Q2. Even smaller and quieter yet just as strong.
ua-cam.com/video/RGjDxfxVpS0/v-deo.html
I'm a boxer, biker, and runner. I'm an endurance athlete and my legs definitely need a massage gun (I didn't realize these were a thing until now, unfortunately). I'm looking at the Ekrin b37 (lifetime warranty and looks high quality), Sportneer D9 (cheap but have heard it's high quality), and the Opove M3. I want to seriously break up the lactic acid after workouts, reduce my downtime between intense workouts, and feel looser moving around, what would your suggestion be? I'm worried that 12mm may not deliver a good massage (I have never used a massage gun so I have no merit behind that other than seeing 16mm being higher, lol).
Congratulations on having a quality channel and being on American Ninja Warrior. A lot of reviewers and self "entrepreneurs" seem very ingenuine and are clearly in it for money. You reply to all comments and seem like a good guy, so thanks for that.
Thanks for the compliments. Yes, I wanted a channel that I would want to watch and trust. That’s why I push products I think are worth it not the ones that pay me the most.
I would highly recommend watching my latest comparison video. I think the Ekrin would be a good fit for you. I also love the Sportneer. I have a coupon codes for both of them, but only use if it’s the right fit for you. This video will help compare them against the high dollar ones. Let me know what other questions you have …
Best Massage Guns Tested - Theragun, Hypervolt, Bob & Brad, Kraftgun
ua-cam.com/video/tMUO5Y4AyYA/v-deo.html
@@BeforeYouBuyReview I'll watch that video now and will make my decision after; I am 100% using your code with whichever I get so you can get some coffee.
If I do get the Ekrin it will be the B37 and not B37S, would you still recommend the Ekrin as a good fit in my scenario over the others if it is not the "S"?
Again, the effort you put into this channel is amazing, I just shared with two gym friends who are looking for a massager as well.
Thank you for your time.
Thanks so much! I would definitely recommend the S for you to really dig deep. You sound like a stronger athlete for sure!👍
Maniac, I'm also a cyclist... and a grad student which means I obsess over anecdotal claims vs. actual evidence. Many of these companies claim that percussive massage "flushes lactic acid." Let me be clear on this, it does not, full stop. There isn't any substantiated peer-reviewed research which demonstrates that percussive massagers confer a quantifiable difference in lactate levels in the muscle. Here's another fun fact... one hour after cessation of your workout, lactate levels return to their pre-workout baselines. As such the pain you feel will be related to something else... mainly the fact that you've just created a bunch of micro-tears in your muscles which need to be repaired.
What these companies attempt to do is fool people with conjecture that sounds plausible enough to pass as real evidence. Vibration therapy and sports massage therapy are similar to percussive massage, right? Nope. They are different, different modalities, different mechanisms of efficacy. You can never assume that just because something seems similar, it will confer the same results. This is what they all base their marketing on... they cite results from studies that sound similar but in reality are unrelated. Sounds plausible, but that's just not how these things work. Another common claim borrowed from research into vibration therapy is that percussive massage increases blood flow and circulation, and therefor improves recovery. To my knowledge there is not a single placebo-controlled, randomized, peer-reviewed study which substantiates this, this is all merely marketing conjecture.
What DOES improve circulation and blood flow resulting in a quantifiable improvement in recovery? Active recovery. If you do a HIIT workout with 4 reps of 8 minute intervals at 5% above FTP with 2 to 4 minutes rest in between each interval (one of the most effective peer-reviewed HIIT sessions for cyclists out there) then your next day should be at around 50% of your FTP. Foam-rolling is also evidence-based as is nutrition. Consumption of carbohydrates (NOT protein, the study that claimed that has since been refuted with better data as the initial study didn't control for caloric intake) after an intense workout is time-sensitive. Protein is important too (iirc about 1.2 to 1.4 grams per kilogram of body weight per day for elite athletes) but as long as you get it within your next big meal, you don't need to worry much.
I'd HIGLY recommend Dylan Johnson's channel for evidence-based cycling information. He's a former Charmichael Training Systems coach and does an excellent job of providing multiple peer-reviewed evidence-based studies to all the claims he makes. In particular I'd recommend this video (he looks like he's 13, but I assure you, his videos are very well researched, I've come across many of the same articles he's cited in some of my graduate-level work):
ua-cam.com/video/Bt8JbqrK9R8/v-deo.html
So why am I here? Probably the best argument for massage guns... let's face it, they feel good. More research is needed but that by itself may confer a psychological advantage (and even if it doesn't, I don't care). There is limited research which suggests some performance benefits but it's week, and it doesn't add up to community consensus. Still "it feels good" (so long as they do no harm... which by the way... I'd keep these devices with a larger amplitude away from your neck) is a pretty good reason. I've tried the Theragun Pro, Achedaway Pro, and Sportneer D9. Oh... to answer the question, I'm here because I think BYB makes an attempt to quantify the performance of these devices. I used his pillow-on-a-scale test with the Achedaway Pro (which BTW is just a rebadged Chinese gun you can order off of AliExpress for a fraction of what the Achedaway Pro costs but I found that out after I ordered mine) and measured the stall-force at 25 pounds. The only reason I did that was because I saw them advertise 80 lbs of stall force and I was *easily* getting it to stall out on my quads. Nowhere near the stall force that the Theragun Pro had. It did have the travel they advertised at 16mm (measured with digital calipers). The Sportneer had neither the amplitude nor the stall force necessary to dig into a knotty quad. Also, while it looks like it's high quality, that's a bit of a facade. That metal piece near the head which makes it look beefy is literally a hot-glued facade. I know this because the one I received didn't have enough hot-glue applied during assembly and it fell off. Underneath it was plastic. The Theragun Pro wasn't mine, but it would have done the job (but I personally couldn't justify the price... nor do I think the engineering is worth it, search UA-cam for a Theragun Pro teardown). As BYB has mentioned, amplitude isn't everything, it's a combo of stall force AND amplitude that matters. As such I'm interested in the Ekrin devices and their higher stall forces. I'm also curious about the Opove Apex which I think is in the 14mm to 16mm range of amplitude and can be had on Amazon for around $159 with a coupon IIRC.
As you posted a year ago, did you end up buying anything? What did you get, and can it dig in enough to those cycling and running quads and hammies? If I was just concerned about stuff above the belt there's so many more options that would make me happy... but damn those quads!
ekrin b37s VS lifepro pulse fx, which one is better in terms of reliability and how both guns operate, etc? I know they have almost identical Stall Force but which one should I buy?
The Pulse FX is no longer purchasable. I also thing the pivoting & body in general feels really cheap and hollow. I the B37S feels super solid. In terms of reliability I haven’t had an issue with either one
@@BeforeYouBuyReview what about the Ekrin b37s vs the sportneer elite?
@@BeforeYouBuyReview and thank you so much for answering.
You bet! Happy to help! That’s a tough call. I would maybe lean towards the Sportneer. Especially with discount code it’s much cheaper. The B37S is stronger and seems like a better quality with locking heads etc, but Sportneer brings great value and metal tips
@@BeforeYouBuyReview thank you so much :)
Did you measure the amplitude on these? I measured the Ekrin 365 at 10.5mm (not 12mm) and the Bantam at 8mm (not 10mm).
That was before I had my micrometer to be honest. Thanks for the added info. I did remeasure the B37S on my recent comparison and show the different depths
ua-cam.com/video/tMUO5Y4AyYA/v-deo.html
Theragun sounds a bit loud and has weaker force. Thinking about buy 37s preorder.. thanks for the review!
Glad it helped! 👍
This is the best full size massager in my opinion. The locking mechanism, amazing customer service from the company, stall force and angled handle make this better than the theragun
Can the flat head on the b37 also be used with ointment? I don’t see any additional attachment accessory options on their site that’s similar to that for the b37
Which one would be your pick between Ekrin b37s VS the Sportneere Elite D9??
I generally suggest the D9 for the price, but the quality, power, locking heads, and warranty on B37S is top notch.
What is the amplitude of both devices you reviewed? Did you measured it?
Hi how does the B37 compared to the No Cry massage gun from your other video? They seem to be identical?
They are definitely very similar. The B37 there’s a little stronger, but I think that’s about all I’ve noticed in use. The B37S Is the one that adds extra features and power
So right now the b37s has bluetooth compatibility but is not activated yet by ekrin because they are still developing the app, or they will make a new massage gun for that..? Thanks , I hope you answer this question...
I’ve yet to see the app. I’ll check with the company and see! 👍
@@BeforeYouBuyReview Thanks ! I'll wait for your update before buying it, the app integration will make it even better ! Keep up the great work ! 🏆🏆🏆
Thanks! Will do
They said nothing is coming 😭
@@BeforeYouBuyReview No app integration? 🥲
Is the B37 noticeably better than the Bob and Brad?
The B37S is definitely stronger, not the B37. It does come with some heft and a more expensive price. If those two things aren’t factors and you want a solid massage gun, go for the B37S. You can see stall force compared in my recent video:
ua-cam.com/video/jQ7ppb5TacM/v-deo.html
How about the sound level between this and the bob and brad c2?
If you threw price out the window which would you got for. The b37s, sportneer or something else. No mini massage guns, full size only
That’s such a hard question. Probably B37S
Great question, even over the Achedaway and T Elite? I really want the B&B x6 but am worried it doesn’t hit as deep as the B37s and others mentioned.
So there is Bluetooth capability with both the 37 amd 37s?
There’s not actually. I thought they had that coming but it was a different brand apparently
Do you think the extra 100.00 is worth the 37s over 37? I think the variable resistance level on level 5 and the higher rpm’s and level 1-3 for me amd returning my 37
20% is lit
That stall force is insane!
It really is! This one just hits hard!! 👊
If I'm not mistaken I believe Ekrin advertises the stallforce at 30% stronger over the B37 only at lower speeds, not all speeds.
Thanks in advance
Is the b37s noticeably stronger?
See my video here where I tested strengths. It’s one of the strongest I’ve used:
ua-cam.com/video/jQ7ppb5TacM/v-deo.html