Thanks for another great video. I learned about quartering the hard way. I repaired a model that was out of quarter by eye. It was an 0-4'0 so it wasn't too difficult but it still took a couple of attempts. Mentioning the wheel gauge is a great tip.
I try to avoid twisting the wheels on the axle unless it looks totally obvious. if you must do this, stick a straight wire through the spokes through both wheels and make it as accurately quartered as possible. then check again on the bench if it can be rolled freely with all linkage operating! many times I've had steam where someone had twisted the wheels to set the gauge but not in quarter! there is a tool called "the puller" by NWSL that can be used to make tiny adjustments to the wheels, but it's an expensive tool.
that one that doesn't work is going to be something cool eventually, but notice behind it is a 2-8-2 that is heavy metal - that one needs to totally transformed into the coolest thing we can make! plus there are 4 steam locos that are getting rebuil with sound on the workbench and they get a video series - one of them is a Shay and another is a Big Boy!
@@elite194 If the Shay is the one from Bachmann you'll have a lot of work. I have two Bachmann Spectrum Shays. Brand new. And when I took both engines out of their respective boxes the bevel gears felt down. They were cracked. I had to put new ones (and it wasn't easy). Also installed 20x40mm loudspeakers with custom made enclosures into the water tenders, replaced light bulbs for leds lights, installed fire-effect leds in the fireboxes, and improved current pickups. I really like these engines. They are so special...
Good in illustrating what the end result should be but nothing about what does one do if the cranks on one side are not at 90 degrees to the other side. What then?
it is possible to make this adjustment in the same way you would put the wheels into gauge. very carefully pulling the drive train tight align one side to itself nice and straight. turn the whole thing around and you will be able to identify the wheel that is off and carefully turn it into quarter. Don't do this until you are exactly certain which wheel is off!! I also tighten all the driving rods while doing this to help keep them stready!
quartering always seems really hard, but usually is not hard. it's only really hard when someone turns wheels on their own axles and messes up the system - happens more than you would expect!
Thanks for another great video. I learned about quartering the hard way. I repaired a model that was out of quarter by eye. It was an 0-4'0 so it wasn't too difficult but it still took a couple of attempts. Mentioning the wheel gauge is a great tip.
there's going to be more quartering stuff until we have a super excellent tutorial! we'll keep collecting tips and consolidating them!
That’s simple enough. Never thought of it in those terms, but that’s it!
it took many hard years of personal suffering and anguish before I finally understood not to look at those half moon counterweights!
great explanation, will never forget how to qrtr now..lol!...the gear puller is a handy tool need to grab one cheap somewhere...thanks for sharing
Where's doing some more difficult ones this summer!
WHAT IF its not right how do you fix it do you twist the wheel on the axle?
I try to avoid twisting the wheels on the axle unless it looks totally obvious. if you must do this, stick a straight wire through the spokes through both wheels and make it as accurately quartered as possible. then check again on the bench if it can be rolled freely with all linkage operating! many times I've had steam where someone had twisted the wheels to set the gauge but not in quarter! there is a tool called "the puller" by NWSL that can be used to make tiny adjustments to the wheels, but it's an expensive tool.
More Steam please! I would love to see how you would customize a steam locomotive
that one that doesn't work is going to be something cool eventually, but notice behind it is a 2-8-2 that is heavy metal - that one needs to totally transformed into the coolest thing we can make! plus there are 4 steam locos that are getting rebuil with sound on the workbench and they get a video series - one of them is a Shay and another is a Big Boy!
@@elite194 If the Shay is the one from Bachmann you'll have a lot of work. I have two Bachmann Spectrum Shays. Brand new. And when I took both engines out of their respective boxes the bevel gears felt down. They were cracked. I had to put new ones (and it wasn't easy). Also installed 20x40mm loudspeakers with custom made enclosures into the water tenders, replaced light bulbs for leds lights, installed fire-effect leds in the fireboxes, and improved current pickups. I really like these engines. They are so special...
@@jagc1969 I haven't checked it out yet, but it will be coming up!
Good in illustrating what the end result should be but nothing about what does one do if the cranks on one side are not at 90 degrees to the other side. What then?
it is possible to make this adjustment in the same way you would put the wheels into gauge. very carefully pulling the drive train tight align one side to itself nice and straight. turn the whole thing around and you will be able to identify the wheel that is off and carefully turn it into quarter. Don't do this until you are exactly certain which wheel is off!! I also tighten all the driving rods while doing this to help keep them stready!
thanks so much
hopefully this helps out!
excellent many thanks as i got a lionel gs4 with this fault
quartering always seems really hard, but usually is not hard. it's only really hard when someone turns wheels on their own axles and messes up the system - happens more than you would expect!
Ok one more time why do you have to quieter your wheels? Remember the question is why
They won't turn simultaneously if they are not in quarter and c you'll have bind that is a hard stall.