@@zetorrec more like >rush new vehicle 1. All new vehicles ain't my favourite 2. Half of new vehicles get buff with no cost (give a immersion of so many questionable)
@@SRDPS2 this rushed update was fucking garbage, nothing but clones, and the new top tier premiums were garbage and not worth spending 80 on. also so many of the vehicles like the german eurofighter were literally so broken that you can fly through the ground to avoid missiles and other players. The update is so bad they only made these changes because everyone was calling them out for shitting on spookston on stream, they only caved in because they dont want another review bomb during the christmas/holiday season.
@@MrPuretideful at least isn't dumpster fire like Seek&Destroy (I got 2 bug experience and FPS drop) "them out for shitting on spookston on stream" that's HSTV-L and its premium like why even what reason to buy great pain
I think it is good in its BR. (I need it next to my maus) And it doesnt has termals, and there are some other thins that not as good in this as in the VIDAR
PSA: The system loads the shell automatically and the charge is loaded manually. The even faster fire rates cited by others are when the system is stationary.
Still not it’s listed 3s burst for 3 rounds or 10 RPM auto loaded speed, not to mention no commander thermals, l15a2 or the other German shells developed for this SPH
Sholef V1 also got its correct 9RPM (tho IRL this fire rate is consistent and not a burst), now it just needs the LRF and firing-on-the-move capability.
"In this next patch we also buffed the 2S38 reload speed into 0.3 seconds for the first 30 shells." "we've also added the SU-60 that has fire and forget plasma rockets!!"
As HE Slinger fan, Im good with 7.5s tho Before type 99 came with its 7.5s, i always use type 75 sph with 10s reload And Plz05 is my current favorite Mid tier is fun with those bad boyo
This whole restock thing is translated to "auto reloader" mechanics in world of tanks lul (shoot each shell slowly with low reload time, or shoot every shell and suffer longer reload time)
Reminds me of Chi-Ri II, this is a good way to implement it with existing mechanics. Not sure if the timings are a good choice. BTW, which crew skill influences first stage refill? Is it also Loader - Reloading?
@DanTheTan cool because in my Abrams and Leopards russians smallests HE do that all the time at weakspots... When i play with russia indo that all the time.
What’s the actual name of the music? The game is so old that if I search it up, it only shows tf2 themes Can someone send me a link to that music plz 😭😭
@@reinyfrost3753what? The VIDAR is much better because it has better mobility, armor and thermals. They got so much wrong on the pzh2000 and only when they fix every problem THEN it can go to 8.3
@@BKBCrAnK can it use those? yes so what is the issue? it has enough pen for everything, and it has good zoom with LRF. if people can hit everything with the M109 with no rangefinder and horrible zoom, then you should be able to do as well with this
@@o-hogameplay185 why implement unique vehicles with certain abilities and features and unique shell types for these vehicles if you don’t implement their unique features. When everything is the same, why bother getting it? Shit like this is just blatant ignorance towards the vehicle’s capabilities. If we can’t monetize it, f*ck you. But we are a "realistic" game. Also we choose if a declassified military document is telling the truth or not.
this thing shoukd not be at 7.7, its should be 8.3 or 8.0 minimum. i don't think tanks that have a laser range finder should be at the same br as my lorriane which has no rangefinder at all.
@@Jasiuc330 That applies to every shell in the game, and now you have a 5 second reload to help with those moments. If the AuF1 is 7.0, this and the Vidar should be nowhere near that br.
The if the loading mechanism is combat loaded it can fire 3 shots in under 10 seconds. After that the loading mechanism needs to grab the shells out of the rack which increases the loading time
@@BKBCrAnK that's why I think the ready rack loading should be fixed and way shorter but the normal loading could be affected by crew skill. A friend of mine that works with the thing said it can firer 6 shots in quick succession that land at the same time on target. It does that by using different charges and automatic elevation of the gun
LMAO , how is this thing sitting at 7.7 ? It should be at least 2BR higher .... Uber Alles Bias knows no limits 😂😂😂. Koalitsiya-SV at 7.7 it is then right ....
Наныли. Прям как с абрахами. А советам человек на форуме со всеми долбаными документами уже год как не может выбить -0.5 к перезарядке Т-80. Совьет биас как он есть, очевидно.
Lol, no one asked for the 5second reload for the Abrams - everyone wanted the DU armor, DU hull armor, spall liners, improved side armor, removable TUSK, APS, fixed turret ring, M829A3, etc.
Let me remind you that the reload time for this artillery is 6 shots per minute, which equals 10 seconds, but you whined as always and the gaijin made something that is actually NONE! 3 shots, if anything, takes this artillery time to aim and wait, comparable to 15-20 seconds of waiting, if it didn't, the cannon would just melt, but gaijins main thing is to make you feel good and spend money. And when Russians demand at least a real rear gear in T-90M or other tanks Gaijin just ignores or throws them in the ban.
"time to aim and wait" ok I guess we are play WoT with arty mechanics This thing PzH are indeed can do 6sec reload (also in Zenturion short) problem is when you do like fire 100 shell continue, overheating and stop function "Reverse gear T-90M" Cool story, same language I can apply to M829A3, DM73, """New""" France APDSFS, Abram turret ring fix, D-Tech whatever, Real Ariete, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc (etc, etc) Same reason why Gaijin don't add T-80BVM (2023)
@@Iden_in_the_Rain There's a video that shows the rear gear of the T-90m is higher than in game, but of course it's not clear if that's with the engine overdrive engaged or not
@@SRDPS2 If we talk about tanks, I remember the BMD-4M, which made a normal gearbox on 4 (What in reality). And the BMD-4 still has a bad not real gearbox for 8.
Totally not a rushed update
The fixes in the hotfixes/patches are literally what's supposed to be in the update itself
This rushed update is just fine
Problem is they have bias against certain thing
Especially right at update drop (like PzH)
@@SRDPS2>rushed update is fine unless they rush my favorite vehicle
@@zetorrec more like >rush new vehicle
1. All new vehicles ain't my favourite
2. Half of new vehicles get buff with no cost (give a immersion of so many questionable)
@@SRDPS2 this rushed update was fucking garbage, nothing but clones, and the new top tier premiums were garbage and not worth spending 80 on. also so many of the vehicles like the german eurofighter were literally so broken that you can fly through the ground to avoid missiles and other players.
The update is so bad they only made these changes because everyone was calling them out for shitting on spookston on stream, they only caved in because they dont want another review bomb during the christmas/holiday season.
@@MrPuretideful at least isn't dumpster fire like Seek&Destroy (I got 2 bug experience and FPS drop)
"them out for shitting on spookston on stream"
that's HSTV-L and its premium
like why even what reason to buy great pain
and now they need to fix the M107 ammo
In which way? They buffed it its speed
yep the velocity makes no fucking sense for gun this long, its the same problem that this israeli spg on merkava hull has
@@jPlanerv2 the sholef, that also has a LRF modelled on but none in game 😿
Vider too i think
From what ive seen they already patched the Shell velocity @jPlanerv2
First 3 shots in 9.8 seconds…
Sustained fire of 1 Shot every 6 seconds…
Source: i served on that thing
Very cool information, but 10/10 gaijin is not gonna take it. They don't even trust the offical army documents when they don't feel like it lol
You server on that thing? Does it have stabilizer?
Source : trust me bro
@user-qq8ek4zs4s sometimes it's better to trust somebody than being wronged constantly
@@dedsussybaka4619why should it it’s a artillery vehicle those stay in the back in a standstill firing away with HE
If they move it to 8.0 I wouldn’t complain anymore tbh. This is so good
They should give it DM121 ammo and move it yea
@@Pischingers its an arty no way its gonna get DM121
I think it is good in its BR. (I need it next to my maus) And it doesnt has termals, and there are some other thins that not as good in this as in the VIDAR
@ondrazj wdym. dm121 is literally made for arty
@ondrazjits literally made for the pzh 2000
coping that they'll eventually buff the Type-10's autoloader to 3 seconds
Considering the max speed is 1.2-1.5 seconds it's not out of the question.
But still won't fix Abrams
Why tf would they ever do that 💀
@@benlex5672thats only in an emergency reload. Not a sustained reload
@@benlex5672 how to get your autoloader broken:
PSA: The system loads the shell automatically and the charge is loaded manually. The even faster fire rates cited by others are when the system is stationary.
Still not it’s listed 3s burst for 3 rounds or 10 RPM auto loaded speed, not to mention no commander thermals, l15a2 or the other German shells developed for this SPH
It would be sorta like the bkan, but the thing has like 3 different reloading mode so the 5s is prob the most logical reload speed
tell me you can't do math without telling me you cant do math.
3 rounds per 10s->
0s, first shell
5s second shell
10s third shell
The Sholef got buffed too, 7.5 sec reload time but 3 shell ready rack
Damn when the time I deleted war thunder that's where the pzh 2000 made its overhaul.
Seems like they tried to simulate the Burst fire.
It's actually about 4 second reload irl.
more like 3 to 3.5 actually, its very fast
For 3 sec it need the ready rack of 3 round after that fire rate going to 6 sec again@Redstoneprofi01
In real life its even faster
Quite right
It will be way too OP with realistic fast reload rate
Sholef V1 also got its correct 9RPM (tho IRL this fire rate is consistent and not a burst), now it just needs the LRF and firing-on-the-move capability.
They are fixing the muzzle velocity next, up from 563 to 950 m/s, almost double.
Hope not. I wanna use it like literal arty so lower velocity is better for that :p
Low velocity is really good for dig people out from hull down thro
진짜 13초 장전은 지랄이였음. 내가 발로 장전해도 그거보단 빠르게 할 수 있어 보일 정도임 ㅋㅋㅋ
reminded me of tanks where gunner had to fire by pressing lever with their foot ... Shermans and such
100% because Zenturion7 actually make a short clip of PzH 2000 real-life reload lol.
now give tortoise the APDS it should get...
Gaijin when people boycott and say it isn't a military sim that prides itself in historical accuracy.
Now they’ve made a monster
Ivans are going to cry loud with this one🗣️🔥
Just give them 2S19
No point why hold it back
"In this next patch we also buffed the 2S38 reload speed into 0.3 seconds for the first 30 shells."
"we've also added the SU-60 that has fire and forget plasma rockets!!"
@@schwartzprime3045 Premium Captured Abram when 🗣️
(Totally not take USSR buff advantage)
We fighting a straw man with this one 🔥🔥🔥
"2S1 8 second reload buff"
- Unacceptable!! Russian bias!!!!
"PzH-2000 8 second reload buff"
- Finally! An acceptable buff
GERMANY REJOICE🗣🗣🗣
IRL it can fire 3 shells in 9 seconds
Thank god a proper futuristic HE slinger
"stuck at 7.5s" is crazy wording, PLZ and type75 have 7.5s reload
they should do a longer reload for like 6 to 5 seconds and the ready rack reload down to 3.5sec
they also increased shell velocity of the proxy and base HE round
As HE Slinger fan, Im good with 7.5s tho
Before type 99 came with its 7.5s, i always use type 75 sph with 10s reload
And Plz05 is my current favorite
Mid tier is fun with those bad boyo
we're so back
Now they just gotta shave 2.5 secs of the "autoloaded" non readyrack reaload and they are getting close to reality.
i think without the ready rack the reload is really like 6s not 5s. correct me if im wrong
This whole restock thing is translated to "auto reloader" mechanics in world of tanks lul (shoot each shell slowly with low reload time, or shoot every shell and suffer longer reload time)
Reminds me of Chi-Ri II, this is a good way to implement it with existing mechanics. Not sure if the timings are a good choice.
BTW, which crew skill influences first stage refill? Is it also Loader - Reloading?
Still needs SAPHE and spall liners
Now move to 13.0
Over pressure vehicles tend to be not effected that much by uptiers
@DanTheTan cool because in my Abrams and Leopards russians smallests HE do that all the time at weakspots... When i play with russia indo that all the time.
@ValadarishUR Well that is because Russian tank HE is actually very powerful (over 5.00 kilograms of TNT equivalent)
@@ValadarishURI think it'd be cool to have arty at top tier tho. Just give them a drone
@Breadman2024-us7fi yeaah i use 2S3M all the time with friends help 9kg of tnt can kill most part of modern mbts at trap shots.
so much handholding for the pigs
commander sight height is pretty low so volley aint so easy withour risking ur top peeking
saw this from dollar this morning and immediately want to the game
if this is your first time with warthunder then prepare for a painful experience.
What’s the actual name of the music?
The game is so old that if I search it up, it only shows tf2 themes
Can someone send me a link to that music plz 😭😭
It Should Be Around 5s even after ready rack and 4.2 in ready rack
How about the BOL rails that vanished off Eurofighter
33 second ago seems like an abuse
Congrats bug reporters, now gets moved up to 10.0 next BR update
Meh, it shoot 155mm HEHE shell whats the problem?
🎉🎉
It should have ready rack of 3 rounds like irl. Shoots 3 times in 9 sec
3 times in 9 seconds but with the first shot already loaded
They should completely remake the cv9030 and and release the cv9035 aps D turret with better anti air capability#notmyCv90
Good now fix abrams and 7.0-9.0 ground us tech tree
Now give it thermals and move it to 8.0
It's already good enough to be at the same BR as the VIDAR. Put both of them at 8.3 even.
@@reinyfrost3753agree but with thermals.
Also they are both premiums so we know they wont move them to 8.3
@@reinyfrost3753True
@@reinyfrost3753Move them to 8.3 but give thermals at PzH.
Also we know they wont move them to 8.3 simply because they are both premiums
@@reinyfrost3753what? The VIDAR is much better because it has better mobility, armor and thermals. They got so much wrong on the pzh2000 and only when they fix every problem THEN it can go to 8.3
Thank god
My pzh has its stab icon lit up but no stabilitization
It should be at 8.3
what about sholef😭
Still slower than the real thing
Crazy
Gun that long and modern but still 563m/s lmao, pathetic gayjin
do you realize speed not only depends on barrel length but also on how much charge bags they use?
@@o-hogameplay185it also makes no damn sense that it uses a damn French shell and a US shell from 1940 ffs
@@BKBCrAnK
can it use those? yes
so what is the issue?
it has enough pen for everything, and it has good zoom with LRF. if people can hit everything with the M109 with no rangefinder and horrible zoom, then you should be able to do as well with this
@@o-hogameplay185 why implement unique vehicles with certain abilities and features and unique shell types for these vehicles if you don’t implement their unique features.
When everything is the same, why bother getting it? Shit like this is just blatant ignorance towards the vehicle’s capabilities. If we can’t monetize it, f*ck you. But we are a "realistic" game. Also we choose if a declassified military document is telling the truth or not.
YEEEESSSSS!!!!
this thing shoukd not be at 7.7, its should be 8.3 or 8.0 minimum.
i don't think tanks that have a laser range finder should be at the same br as my lorriane which has no rangefinder at all.
Yeah it's significantly better than any 7.7 in the game
But at the same time HE can be really miserable. What do you mean 155mm 50kg shell didn't do anything to enemy tank after direct hit
@@Jasiuc330 That applies to every shell in the game, and now you have a 5 second reload to help with those moments. If the AuF1 is 7.0, this and the Vidar should be nowhere near that br.
그래서 K9 버프 필요함
Your 'song' is a game of some kind and not the actual song.
This makes 0 sense, the thing doesn't have a "ready rack" the only thing the crew needs to do ist select the shell and load the charge
The if the loading mechanism is combat loaded it can fire 3 shots in under 10 seconds. After that the loading mechanism needs to grab the shells out of the rack which increases the loading time
@BKBCrAnK but it doesn't take 7,5 seconds and crew skill should have no influence on that at all
@@zulumafoo3471 it should because it’s half manually loaded irl. Idk man, it’s a weird spot
@@BKBCrAnK that's why I think the ready rack loading should be fixed and way shorter but the normal loading could be affected by crew skill.
A friend of mine that works with the thing said it can firer 6 shots in quick succession that land at the same time on target. It does that by using different charges and automatic elevation of the gun
LMAO , how is this thing sitting at 7.7 ? It should be at least 2BR higher .... Uber Alles Bias knows no limits 😂😂😂. Koalitsiya-SV at 7.7 it is then right ....
Ha! i knew it!
차라리 k9이 더 나은거같은데 ㅋㅋ
crew skills are so p2w
55톤인데 장갑은 K9의 절반 M109 보다 못한수준
the giant autoloader is the reason
The autoloader do is very heavy. But im pretty sure the side armor is thicker than 10mm
Wow, they are really going all in on having SPH ruin the fun of everything else, huh? Guess I'll quit playing around 4.0 and 7.7 entirely now.
Lol
Gaijin loves their brain dead HE slingers
at least 8.0 - 10.0 game is already trash (games are so fast)
Наныли. Прям как с абрахами. А советам человек на форуме со всеми долбаными документами уже год как не может выбить -0.5 к перезарядке Т-80. Совьет биас как он есть, очевидно.
Абсолютно с вами согласен коллега🤝
Lol, no one asked for the 5second reload for the Abrams - everyone wanted the DU armor, DU hull armor, spall liners, improved side armor, removable TUSK, APS, fixed turret ring, M829A3, etc.
@@HassanAchieved рад за тебя. А почему ты плакал?
Yes, but is paper tank xd
like most of the vehicles in the game, its not a problem
its not a tank
Cancer
Let me remind you that the reload time for this artillery is 6 shots per minute, which equals 10 seconds, but you whined as always and the gaijin made something that is actually NONE!
3 shots, if anything, takes this artillery time to aim and wait, comparable to 15-20 seconds of waiting, if it didn't, the cannon would just melt, but gaijins main thing is to make you feel good and spend money.
And when Russians demand at least a real rear gear in T-90M or other tanks Gaijin just ignores or throws them in the ban.
The T-90M doesn’t have a faster reverse gear, though.
"time to aim and wait" ok I guess we are play WoT with arty mechanics
This thing PzH are indeed can do 6sec reload (also in Zenturion short)
problem is when you do like fire 100 shell continue, overheating and stop function
"Reverse gear T-90M"
Cool story, same language I can apply to M829A3, DM73, """New""" France APDSFS, Abram turret ring fix, D-Tech whatever, Real Ariete, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc (etc, etc)
Same reason why Gaijin don't add T-80BVM (2023)
@@SRDPS2 I understand that it can, but if it adds a triple shot, if this artillery will overheat the gun afterwards.
@@Iden_in_the_Rain There's a video that shows the rear gear of the T-90m is higher than in game, but of course it's not clear if that's with the engine overdrive engaged or not
@@SRDPS2 If we talk about tanks, I remember the BMD-4M, which made a normal gearbox on 4 (What in reality).
And the BMD-4 still has a bad not real gearbox for 8.