Myself and Tom Deblass both offered for him to meet at a neutral location. Tom offered him $50k to spar with a female student of his. I offered to pay for his flight, hotel and food to meet at a neutral location. Seems his response was to block both of us. The offers still stand and we could find a way to get you flown out as well when that’s possible if he’s down 🤷🏻♂️ He also has restricted all comments on his Instagram, will deleted negative comments and will block a lot of people who issue legit offers to meet up. He picks and chooses who he’s willing to meet with in order to make himself look better. He literally tried to hurt Kenji then bragged about it when Kenji was literally allowing him to demonstrate a technique with no resistance. It was not sparring and he was bragging online like it was some kind of victory 🤦♂️
Yep. I saw the videos with Kenji. That was just disgusting to see. It’s one thing to be a goofy meme-worthy self defense guy on the internet, but another entirely to abuse people like that. Dale will never agree to step on the mat with any of Tom’s students, but I love the fact that you guys put the offer on the table and put your money where your mouth is. Thanks for stopping by Rob!
@@RamseyDewey of course. Dale is probably the biggest narcissist I have covered, and if you’ve seen the people I cover there have been a lot over the years. Dale loves Dale.
@@McDojoLife it’s was a female brown belt of his, right? Tom’s got some killer students, and he’s a legend himself. He must know to a certain degree the level of actual skill that exists in bjj despite trashing it.
@@RamseyDewey Dale said a bjj black belt mma fighter who died getting jumped would have lived he trained his system because sport and self defense are two different things. That level of disrespect and arrogance to say something absurd really is beyond belief.
I havent tried calling him out yet... as the only modern MMA channel to successfully get a "master" to respond and organise an actual fight, I think I can troll him into submission 🤣🤣🤣
Personally I always stir my morning coffee in a clockwise motion. Never have been shot in my life. Proves that this technique increases your chances of survivability.
Oh!!! I've been getting shot like 3 times a day for years!!! I finally know why! The curse of growing up with one of those backwards clocks! Thank you, oh wise coffee defense master!
You have done it!!! You arevthe chosen one i have been searching for. Pleasevteach me this great skill and style. This newly rediscovered ancient art of waking up to reality. I love it 😀 😍
Breaking down crappy women's self defense techniques and other self defense techniques and showing why they don't work and what works better, IS helping thousands of people defend themselves better
bottom line is talk is cheap... some things have to be felt and not just seen at the surface level on video. Hopefully they meet up to test some things, but there have already been professional MMA fighters more experienced than Ramsey that have tested Dale's methods (Marcus Kowal and Brandon Hunt). They gave him pretty solid praise.
You must have never researched DUST.. i though it was nonsense till I actually looked them up. they are a multi million dollar security company because they have successfully ACTUALLY defended many women and Children who were endanger so he makes so dumb videos… he says it’s an option Vs doing nothing.. ….these videos have not helped HALF as many people that dust has actually saved
And not even that, something like the DUST guru (or any other guru, like Master Wrong or DKHug, but they're cunning and only looking at ther business, they know it's better not to do that) legitimately thinking that he won't just be making a fool out of himself by going up against someone competent like Ramsey is laughable. It's great that he did and it's how it should be, but of course it's not great for the DUST guy himself and his sketchy business.
@@BlackMartialArtsSociety You forgot to already look into your comparison and argument though. His business definitely doesn't do and didn't get successful by using the bs Dale cuts up on the side on social media. Apple and Oranges, Venusian Oranges. Especially because they aren't a fictional movie-like party that deals with fighting droves of athletic and drugged up young guys, and they definitely wouldn't use that, primary, secondary, tertiary, whatever, because there are only few real ways to get out alive of Third World-like bad mugging/fighting scenarios like that.
@@BlackMartialArtsSociety If you think the average security company employee is a proficient combatant then I think you are mistaken. The kinds of people who attack women and children are not generally physically formidable people. Most often, they are only interested in attacking the weak or those they outnumber. This means that you don't have to be very physically capable to have "defended many women and children". I hope you understand this post. Perhaps you will.
I’m a felon and did 5 years in federal prison, my story’s 50 pages in the book Dopesick that’s now a tv show with Michael Keaton. I was on bond for two years in which I trained at a kenpo karate school that was mostly self defense sequences and you always heard “street vs sport.” I trained 4 hours a day 6 days a week, I knew I’d probably have to fight in prison so it was a priority (I also took a college corrections class while on bond). We did VERY basic grappling 2 days a month, and sparring once every other month. In prison when self defense sequences that were “street lethal” didn’t work, the basic grappling did! Every time! I read Geoff Thompson’s books about his realization that karate wasn’t enough so he started boxing and judo. He called judo martial arts best kept secret. Today I’m a brown belt under Egyptian Olympian Tarek Moneir who coached the USA judo team, a blue belt under world champion Paulo Santana, and box with Scott Sigmon. Pressure tested sparring arts are what work, NOT bs self defense sequences. I trained at two locations the kenpo teacher had, each was open 3 days a week, so I got 4 years of training in 2 years. I also powerlift (check my channel, over 500 on deadlift) so I’m not an incompetent weakling, half speed self defense sequences simply did NOT work while grappling did BECAUSE we actually rolled (sparred) when we did it monthly. In a life of dealing almost all fights I’ve been in and seen have been one on one. In prison 99% were. Fights are chaotic, usually a few punches and then as soon as someone gets hit they end up in a clinch and from there a quarter of the time it ends on the ground. Today I train judo/bjj twice 4 days a week 2 hours each session and once 3 days weekly 2 hours each of those days. Training has kept me clean and off heroin since April 9th 2010. I do work with addicts and kids today, life is good. I actually help teach law enforcement in judo, I’ve been doing it for 5 years and made it my life along with bjj and boxing and although not an expert I know enough to help assist and pass it on some helpful information. I know about violence, I’ve seen a lot of it and been in a handful of situations myself. It’s amazing the mcdojo “for da streetz” thing is still actually a thing!
McDojos are always going to be popular because it's easy to sell BS to people that don't want to put in effort to research and train things that will work.
@@astrosherlock374 I love Muay Thai but we don’t have any specialists within 2 hours of where I live. We have a judo Olympian named Tarek Moneir where I live, an hour away is Scott Sigmon (Roy Jones JR most recent opponent prior to Tyson, wen that distance with Roy and won 2 rounds but lost), and I drive a 5 hour round trip for noon class, a two hour private lesson, and evening class before driving home from training with world champ Paulo Santana. I like Muay Thai, and actually have been grinding a broom stick down my shin daily for a decade (one thing the karate mcdojo got me doing). I practice kicks, but in actual fights I’ve been in the balance on different surfaces I mostly wouldn’t have felt comfortable throwing a kick. I wish there was someone nearby, I’d definitely be training in it if there was!
@@thedopesickshow That's unfortunate, but you are already pretty good and effective at other highly efficient martial arts so I don't think you'll need it anyway, I have a solid Muay Thai base, I'm developing my ground game with BJJ and Judo for BJJ now so I can perform better at MMA. It would be pretty good to train under you! Unfortunate I don't live in the US though
@@astrosherlock374 haha, it’d be cool to train with you too bud! I’m not on the level to be a coach yet, but I’m pretty good at assisting people in class. I’m not a natural, but I work harder than most and train twice as much as most. When I mess up a technique a thousand times before understanding it it’s actually helpful once I do understand it, because at that point I know all common mistakes most people make and can articulate exactly what each limb does and how to turn which way. I think one day I’ll be a good coach, that’s the plan and dream! Self defense schools in general are a joke, but if you combine a few legitimate combat sports arts and do regular sparring I think it’s possible to make something that would help people learn how to fight quicker. Geoff Thompson really did well combining what was useful from his karate training with boxing and judo, great instructionals ALL available on UA-cam! They’re old, but some of the best for actual real self defense.
@I Voted For Biden And Love Abortion He's trash. He's getting people killed. He doesn't explain that if different guns are used you have to use different tactics. Single action vs double action, if you do 90% of what he says with someone who can just touch the trigger to shoot.. it will kill you.
Look up his product and as the THOUSANDS OF woman and children who are alive thanks to his company… there is a reason the company makes millions. They have literally stepped in for the police in their city and people called them Over the cops
Some people who know they are wrong or suspect they are wrong fight more fiercely to defend what they are claiming. And they get nasty and undermine the people's intellects really severely whom they are arguing or debating with. In person and over the telephone, it's always people whose intellects are inferior who do this. I don't know about web wars, but in person and over the telephone, I've never witnessed anyone who wasn't an airhead do this.
Yes results are determined by others did we were not successful we would not have value. If we did not understand the law we would be prosecuted and if we did not understand psychology we would not recognize real from false threats. Without skills you will not survive in Detroit actually responding to peoples emergency conditions.
Dale came to the gym I work at in LA to demonstrate his techniques in person. Not only are his techniques total bullshit, he knows they are and plays up the whole thing selling it not as the best response to violence but as being “a last ditch effort to survive”. He’s a snake oil salesman but he ain’t fooling anyone. Great video thank you
The only gym I went to in LA demonstrated that every tactic worked 100% absolutely not one technique did not work. THE INDIVIDUAL THAT PRESSURE TESTED THE TACTICS WAS A PRO MMA FIGHTER YOU ARE A LIAR WHOEVER YOU ARE!
Argentinian here..... From Buenos Aires, I can attest to what he said about the level of violence in those neighborhoods, I have the luck of spending some years in USA, a lot of people in first world countries do not understand the level of danger and violence in the shantytowns of south America. There is no law, there are no cops, you will be atacked on sight just by walking into them if you don't live there and your life is meaningless... ... ... You either give up your things or you run away before they box you in, there is not fighting drugged up teenagers with firearms, that is insane. Hope you can come back to Argentina Ramsey, you are welcome to stop by my house for some asado and mate
This is absolutely real and spot on, those people don't appreciate but, especially, are so filled with luxury that they probably can't even see how good they have it, there in the US or here in Western Europe.
You obviously never been to Miami that's exactly what it's like but even worse... I'm pretty confident that if you were to be dropped in Miami you wouldn't make it out alive there's no safe place for you there
Hey Ramsey, listened to this while driving yesterday. Dale Brown has mastered the art of the Straw Man. It’s an argument tactic where one frame’s his opponent’s views or arguments in a particular way, then attacks that straw man instead of the actual argument. And his cult of personality keeps inflating his ego. He won’t actually spar you, and he’ll use the “this technique is too dangerous” line. Love the videos, keep up the good work!
I don't know if you saw this, but Tom DeBlass, who is a high level BJJ competitor (and Gordon Ryan's first BJJ instructor, by the way) offered this Dale guy $50K plus travel expenses, I believe, if he is willing to try and submit one of his high level female purple belts. No answer, of course lol
Damn, that's absolutely nailed and the best thing to possibly do in these cases! And even at his own expenses especially! Even more respect to be had. Of course Dale and Wong know that their snake-oil can produce them way more loot (from all of their hopeful's pockets) than that honest offer.
There was a part in one of his videos that made me laugh until I almost cried. The context was in a short distance self defense situation against an attacker with a firearm and he said something basically like : "if you get shot in the chest just keep going. you'll surprise the attacker".
Rokas, from MartialArtsJourney, says he's organizing a ''self-defense'' tournament in a gym in australia for youtube martial-arts instructors. You should check out that video, and invite Dale to meet you there.
He can’t because he has a sports head injury lol 😂 you also missed that episode Where he explained why he can’t spar or compete. But he is your guru lol
@@DetroitThreatManagementCenter lmao, so you won’t respond to the offer to spar someone not even on his level of expertise in the field, but can still talk trash. Guess you’re not as busy “protecting the innocents” of Gotham as you claimed
"We tested out some pretty crappy self defense techniques." When you said that, I almost hit the floor laughing! 😆 lol 😆 Teacher, happy birthday to you're daughter.
I love how you keep your emotions in tact, sign of a true martial artist, not only in control of your body, but in control of your emotions. Also another thing, he says you’re disgusting how you “deceive” your audience. I think it’s equally as disgusting for him to say “this person got beat up horribly, it wouldn’t have happened if he trained with me but he chose to train bjj which is a sport”. He actively uses people misfortune as a way to advertise. Also yes I’ve been saying this, he always says “you don’t know because you don’t live in Detroit so you don’t experience what we do” Dewey I see that you have probably experienced worst than a lot of us and you still advocate to do “MMA style” training. Dale can’t take an L. You know how most MMA schools will tell you “leave your ego at the door” well no wonder why he doesn’t train in those schools, he simply can’t leave his ego at the door
Or just his personality... wanderli Silva isn't a calm guy neither are a few mma legends who are true Martial artist black belts.. ex mma world champions arnt all chill but would fuck this guy up there technique are miles better.. some of the best grapplers ever weren't chill they were wild men especially the Brazilians different culture they guys like renzo Ryan... Paulo filho arona Ralph Gracie crazy guy still and many more guys were nuts but there technique was world class and Brazil is wild the old dojo storms guys were wild ... but were world class fighters make this guy look like a whitebelt
Maybe he's of a low intellect? I ponder this because I've never known anyone who was of a low intellect who wasn't also morally inferior (not counting people who are mildly retarded or a handful of IQ points away from it). I researched stupid people online and I found a web site that had a passage from a psychiatrist who said that stupid people "don't have the mental capacity" to feel empathy for others. Also, I have noticed that all stupid people are sickies, so they like to be sadistic. And because they are sickies, they don't take well to criticism. And because they are stupid, they also don't take well to criticism. To state the obvious, one reason this is true is because stupid people are buffoons and so they are the most egotistical people in the world.
20:15 “you’re not a superhero, you’re not Batman.” If anyone doesn’t have time to watch the whole video, this basically sums up what the Coach is trying to say to DustMan.
And they're even already smart and business-oriented enough that they absolutely know and don't care to begin with. This concept has the people that listen to them, and that think that they can defy reality thanks to their product, as those that need to get this message and snap out of it thanks to this.
I like how instead of shouting stupid in an angry voice, Ramsey managed to turn it into jokes that highlights how stupid it is while he was still effective at making a point.
Being an Argentinian myself, I've got assaulted in the streets 3 times in my life and knowing how to throw a proper punch and a half-assed push kick, may have not saved my life, but at least my cellphone and my wallet.
@@mixedmartialnutrition1746 I would never punch someone with a knife, lmao. These were unarmed thiefs that try to feign they have weapons or just intimidate you. They will try to kick your ass, but not outright kill you.
before I listen I'll assume it says "let's meet up in person, you were doing it wrong, something about the streets, if you don't appear on my channel then you're a coward" Dale's company is such a scam, he has a neighborhood watch company that he pretends is some sort of SpecOps unit. It's honestly kind of sad
Sad and murderously grifting. He's getting people killed. He doesn't explain that if different guns are used you have to use different tactics. Single action vs double action, if you do 90% of what he says with someone who can just touch the trigger to shoot.. it will kill you.
Hello Ramsey thanks to you i just did my first day at judo. The ground work sparring was awesome. I it brought back memories of when I was training judo at 7. (45 years old now.) And the weight lifting helped too 😅
As someone whose been in more "street fights", than is reasonable here is my input.... fighting is fast, brutal and usually very clumsy. Even trained fighters tend to fail to implement "technique". It's best to avoid a situation where violence may occur. 2nd best to flee or give them what they want., the 3rd option is to grab a force multiplier, and bluff. Lastly to fight. If you fight, know you will be frightened or angry. Probably both. The blood pumping through your muscles and the adrenaline in your brain will make you clumsy. It will come down to whoever is more aggressive and better armed. Dale's videos are useless, and Ramsey is wise enough not to pretend MMA experience makes him batman. One more point violence does something to you.. all my youthful violence is still carried with me. I am a Adreline junkie, I have anger issues, ptsd, nightmares, intense guilt ect. It destroyed my marriage, not because I was violent toward my family but because they couldn't handle the anxiety depression cycles that were a direct result of my violent past. Don't try to be that person the cost isnt worth it.
@@joeberger3441 Yeah that's why I said: "tend to". There have been cases where boxers and MMA fighters have done well when attacked. But these are actual competitors with several fights under their belts. They were probably also involved in brawling before converting to fighting. Just as many pros have been mugged or involved in a home invasion and not been unable to respond appropriately. Here is my experience. The other day working the rough side of downtown Houston. I stop at a gas station where half a dozen men are going about their business. However, two men are involved in a violent altercation. One clearly homeless man is slapping around another homeless man in a wheelchair. The men several carrying concealed weapons (This is a safe assumption in texas) instead of intervening suddenly find somewhere else to be... Because the scene made them uncomfortable, they didn't know how to respond... And they shouldn't really. All I did was walk by and say " HEY!! stop that" problem solved. Because I understand violence better. That type of indecision is magnified 100x when you the target of the violence. I could tell stories all day but if you haven't lived a life where violence was normal, it's hard to explain... And I don't know how to do it without coming across like a want to be a tough guy... I like fighting, not just the technical side of it... I like the feeling of power I have when breaking another person... But I also hate that I like it. A took a job as a meter reader when I was young, and have survived uncountable dog attacks. I have scars on my hands and face from being attacked by two great Danes. I very easily could have died.... I enjoyed every moment of it. And I feel guilt, deep remorseful guilt for feeling that way. The kinda guilt that keeps you up at night, and makes you cry without knowing why... I haven't been in a fight in ten years, im practicing pacifism, but even the chance of violence makes my heart race makes me feel alive, and makes me feel dirty inside... MMA won't prepare you to be the type of person that survived multiple violent situations, and that's a good thing. Pray you never become that kind of person. Because then you die and a monster takes your place
As someone also intimately familiar with violence, I agree 100%. Everything you said rings true, like I wrote it myself. I'm the most violent pacifist you'll ever meet. I do not consider myself a "tough guy" or "badass", and I will do everything humanly possible to prevent or defuse a volatile situation, because after 20 years of warfighting, I know that I will instinctively take the lethal option, even if there are other options available. Why? Because showing mercy to an aggressor has gotten me fucked up before, and I refuse to take that chance again. Because of this, I've more or less isolated myself from most public interactions. I know I'm fucked up, and this was the most effective solution until I find something better. You're not alone, friend. And the only people that can help us get through this and do better are others like us. I know you don't know me, but if you ever need someone to help talk you down? Reach out. I'll do what I can, because it fucking matters, and no one should have to go through the shit folks like us have gone through, let alone KEEP going through it.
I wonder why Dale picked a fight with the guy that is locked in a country on the otherside of the planet and didn't challenge the other guy that was with Ramsey in the video but is located just one state away.?.? IDEA: Let's get Chewy to take a road trip!
"If you were capable or competent, we would see evidence of that in real life." You mean, like, the actual professional fights that Ramsey's fought in? I imagine his enormous comment was made with a keyboard rather than a phone, but as we know, according to Dale, the hands "aren't designed to hold things very well" so he probably couldn't hold his phone long enough to type all that.
You do see the evidence in real life if you look 👀 we have been featured in many media stories about protecting people in real life in Detroit and you can’t do that successfully without being very capable of managing violence. Detroit is not like Shanghai China LOL according to the FBI it’s the most dangerous city in United States most years. We protect families 24/7 and police are called before we are called and we arrive before police and solve the issues 99% of the time before the arrive. We take the home invaders into custody and we specialize in not causing unnecessary injury and deaths. This has been for the past 27 years.
@@robertblockbusterrowe3351 what you said is true they the most effect part of the human body at holding things. What I said is also true. The hand is not made to hold things very well. This is a fact that you cannot hold my hand my arm or a finger of mine if I do not allow you. Your have is easily opened and in fact you cannot hold your self up on a chin up bar using your hands, you can be pulled down very easily. You cannot hold a gun or a knife in your hands very well at all. The reason I say that is so people are not surprised when a person takes a weapon from their hands or it slips in their hands durning conflict. Police officers, security, home and business owners need to understand how vulnerable they are before losing their gun i a conflict by a untrained person that grabs their gun and takes it from them. Our training has saved countless lives and you can find their video testimonials on our UA-cam channel.
@@DetroitThreatManagementCenter Ramsey literally addressed this in the video, which you clearly didn't bother watching. The point Ramsey is making isn't that your organisation isn't doing good, or that the armed security guards that work for you aren't capable of serving as a deterrent to crime. His point is that the fighting techniques you teach are absolute garbage, and you have no idea whatsoever what you're doing. The hand to hand skills you show in your videos would not work in reality, and exactly NONE of the (alleged) successes of your organisation can be attributed to them. At least in that aspect, you're a charlatan. And, because of that, I'm also extremely skeptical of everything else you say about what your organisation does and how successful you are; in short, I don't actually believe a word you say and nobody else should. For good reasons: the most publicly viewable content about you and your organisation exposes you as a fraud. If you don't want to be treated as a joke and a fraud, then stop producing youtube videos where you teach bogus fighting techniques to your cult like followers.
People like Dale are very important - they're great confidence boosters for younger martial arts instructors like myself LOL Seriously though, it's been very refreshing to see not only the usual suspects trashing his videos, but also your average person realizing "Hey, what's going on with self defense? This is goofy." Even if it is just one guy. I constantly have to remind myself and my students that I have a lot to learn, just like them - but I will teach better concepts and techniques than a lot of older, more "experienced" "instructors" because a lot of people out there have used their time to gain worthless experience. I hope one day to start a gym and attempt to be at least competent in a sea of... whatever 'self defense experts' are selling lol.
Something I've learned as I got older (34 now, so plenty of learning left!) is that experts often stop learning so can have outdated knowledge. I had surgery this week and taught the consultant who did it all about the specific condition. It wasn't new to him in terms of seeing the thing, hence he was happy to operate, but he wasn't aware of the latest information and the classification of exactly what it was because the definitive paper on that had only come out recently. Good doctors (which he was/is) do tend to stay roughly up to date, but in other fields I've often seen people not do that. It may well be that they're using skills and knowledge that was 100% correct at the time. Hopefully the familiarity of younger generations to the internet will reduce this issue, but I suspect it'll still be common- so many people still drive with their hands at 10/2 and shuffle the wheel...
@@Ema-nuel Properly- 9/3. Not that I'm saying religiously sticking to that is necessary of course, can't park like that. Also, nothing wrong with a bit of lazy cruising! 10/2 is like balancing on a fulcrum, it's inherently unstable. At rest it's balanced but even the tiniest movement changes the balance in the system, whereas 9/3 gives a straight line through the pivot which means it's always perfectly balanced no matter how you turn the wheel. Also, wheels are designed for that so it's comfier anyway (and doesn't involve holding your arms up as much). Wasn't intending to get into a car debate though, I was using it as an example of how old knowledge stays around even when it's well known to be wrong.
I've trained security and law enforcement professionally and I still do. I can tell you that 80% of what gets passed off as defensive tactics is nonsense. The other 20% is never stress trained or trained with intensity (usually money and liability concerns and fails under stress). I am on coach Dewey's side all day.
I agree 100%, but will say that DT is improving. My training 14 years ago was so bad it was scary, these days we are using far better (and more regular) training.
@@Nethezbet oh yeah it's definitely on the up. The problem is so many agencies lag behind. I guess that's the nature of the beast. But there are definitely levels to this. The good places place that extra emphasis on aliveness and scenario training. I doubt D.U.S.T does much of either.
I've also received the "you're taking away people's hope that they can defend themselves" argument, and I truly don't understand it. There are two things that really break this argument down. First, isn't telling people that a bad technique won't work, and might get them hurt, better than giving people FALSE hope and confidence in techniques? And secondly, telling people that bad techniques don't work is not the same as saying that there are NO techniques which will work, these people act as if by pointing out their bad techniques you're also forbidding any alternative techniques be practiced. And as you mentioned, you've always advocated that people should get out there and train themselves, test what they learn until they find what works for them. Sorry you had to have Dale flood your comments section with those, but thanks for giving a thoughtful, well-structured response to it.
To my eyes, it translates to "you ruined the party". You know, the "hope to defend". Like lyrics of a power metal song (ew). It's a bit of a pitiful state but, at that point, I don't think there's turning back. It reminds me of mild protests in my University, where some weird people group kind of on their own but also somewhat loud, an odd mix, and they bark in a slow and pitiful manner like a drunk dog. I used to find it "inappropriate" but today I find it sad. Like I want to help these people. And yes they praise their holy political techniques and whoever goes against them... The same as the self defense techniques. Whoever goes against them ruins the party!
@@DetroitThreatManagementCenter Even assuming your guys really do go out and beat up ne'er-do-wells, it doesn't mean the particular techniques that Dewey criticized are functional. Just like in the curriculums of many systems and styles, there may be some good stuff and some bad stuff. If someone is taught basic boxing, and then to back flip in response to a push and fire off a chi ball in retaliation, and they later win a fight, guess which strategy I think they used, the boxing or the chi ball? It's entirely possible that your hand to hand training has plenty of useful techniques and viable tactics that you convey to various officers. It's equally possible that, figuratively, among any hits you score in your curriculum, there will also be misses. There is no perfect, infallible system, and bad techniques do exist. To claim otherwise would be the true pontification. Oh, and while I have your attention (never thought this would happen!), even if they're not your most advanced students, you probably shouldn't be letting these guys get the idea that you should have your opponent fall over your tucked knees in Yoko Wakare: ua-cam.com/video/FalM0ZlBfRM/v-deo.html It also would probably help to get a more solid grip on the opponent before dropping yourself to the floor. Furthermore, if done properly, they'll actually be rolling over your chest, not your knees. If we're borrowing from Judo, we should at least do it the right way, so I'll leave a couple demonstrations for you to reference. ua-cam.com/video/uDIDika0f1k/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/bp1tscHlePI/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/A2mmLS0JcE8/v-deo.html
The context of security work tends to be very different from civilian self defense. Security and law enforcement rely heavily on teamwork. Whenever possible, they want to subdue an individual with the help of as many of people as they can. Even bad techniques will work if there's 3 of you going after one guy. So having successfully subdued individuals with a team really has no relevance to an ordinary citizen looking for advice on how to fight in self-defense. Which is what Dale Brown claims to be teaching.
Exactly and whenever an officer is shown fighting someone alone, before backup arrives, the ones with a grappling background always shine while the ones clearly without one really struggle (and sometimes escalate to deadly force or get hurt/killed themselves)
I rarely comment twice, but this video had the gears in my brain turning, trying to be fair and impartial. I come across guitar players that say, "yeah, but he is technical, so he can't shred." A technical guitar player is technical, because they know theory very well, they know every scale, every chord, every technique. Dale, basically is doing the same thing: Saying that a highly trained combat fighters would be lacking in a street situation is the same as saying that a technical guitarists can't shred. Very illogical and I hope that he is just being defensive at the moment and not really separating from logic.
You are confusing technique and knowledge of theory when it comes to guitar playing. A musician could be technically excellent whilst not knowing what a chord is. "Shredding" is not a quantifiable element of guitar playing; it's just a vulgar metaphor. What you refer to as shredding requires good technical ability but does not require very much knowledge of musical theory. None of this is my fault. :)
A highly trained combat sport fighter without self defense ability (situational awareness, deescalation and the like) can fair worse if he is too sure of what he can do while not reading the room or peeping the parameters of a hostile situation. A bit of both are required to do well. This video and Dale's feel like thesis and antithesis. I'm waiting for the synthesis
@@bw5020 I don’t think Ramsey would disagree with you honestly. And even if you’re Jon Jones you’re still in trouble against a weapon, you never know who is packing. DUST guy teaches point blank gun disarms, which is absolutely insane to try for real. That alone would give 1000x more insane false self confidence than any combat sport.
Every once in a while I'll try a dust technique on a friend at random, without telling them what I'm doing. I'll do it exactly the way it's pictured in the dust video, and after they've stopped giggling and asked me what I'm doing I'll just look confused and wander away.
"Danger" Ramsey Lincoln Dewey! I appreciate your tenderheartedness towards birthdays. Happy belated 4 September 2021. My father was 43 when I was born, as I am reminded by your age. By the way, you look great. I believe you are stronger than two lions in their prime. Thank you for the Lesson(s). Pure Love & Respect. liang zhi lao hu Two Tigers
Apples and potatoes? The French do call the potato the apple of the earth Ramsey! I'm sure there's an apple-robot connection somewhere... Honestly wasn't expecting myself to just sit and watch the full 43.5 mins of this, but it was entertaining so here I am (ok 41 mins right now). I'd love to see an actual collab video to properly test Dale's techniques. I feel like the Ramsey side has some "these specific techniques" in it, so perhaps there needs to be a pre-agreed rule set for any collab. By that I mean Dale should pick maybe 10 unarmed techniques and have him and one of his staff try to use them against both Ramsey and another fighter.
My favorite rebuttal was "it's comments like these that tell me you don't belong in a conversation with me on this topic..." LMFAO! Been following you for awhile my friend. You have excellent content & I have no doubt you are very adept at what you do... a "dangerous man" if you will in the world of MMA. But your intellect and ability to articulate things in a manner that cuts through the bullshit is top notch, and probably the most formidable thing about you! Keep up the good work...always speaking the gospel! PS. I was robbed a couple times in my life as well. Not in a 3rd world country... but robbed at gunpoint nonetheless. No amount of training mattered... I prayed! Hope the lock down ends soon.
I have never been mugged by someone with a gun, thankfully. I have been mugged by people with bottles, bricks, machetes, and other implements. Thankfully each time they were content with whatever amount of cash I was able to hand over. Two years in El Salvador gave me plenty of opportunities to get familiar with being threatened. I agree, people who have never been to third world countries usually don't know what they are talking about when they make those statements.
Man, I am totally agree. I am from Buenos Aires, got robbed twice and I really find funny some personal defense advices and drills even from good and respected channels such as hard2hurt, which I love . But in those good channels at least they talk about context and expectations.
I had a student ask me if any of his "stuff is legit" I told him to pull up any 3 videos and we would try it and once it failed I would then show him 3 different ways to actually defend against each. It's actually not a terrible method when you are short on time to plan out the class before hand. He got to add 9 new techniques to his tool belt and I got a good laugh.
Dale coming at you with talking points of other people. 😂😂 By the way, I worked hospital security for 3 1/2 years, and only had to go hands on or come very close three times. One was checking a guy trying to hit a nurse, one was to pin the arm of a violent person, and one a guy laid in wait for me because I had to keep him out of the ER. The latter I was ready for a fight, but he responded to verbal commands. Almost everything I was able to talk down. I have seen more than most people are aware hospital security encounters Any security officer that is getting in fights on a regular basis, is just not good at their job.
"THAT WOULDNT WORK IN THA STREETS!!" Constantly said by someone who teaches techniques that wouldnt work anywhere at all, let alone "tha streets". If you get attacked on the streets, give them what they want, or very importantly, if you size them up and think you can outrun them, run away.
Sound advice which most actual self defense instructors will tell you. Either run if you have the distance or comply giving the attacker what they want. You only resist as your last option. Also they will tell you that if you resist you will get hurt and it's just a matter of severity.
People fail to realize that a professional fighter in an MMA match with rules can knock somebody out in a professional fight they could do it with no rules as well and be far more proficient at it
if they could knock out another professional fighter who's deffending themselves and actively trying to knock them out then they obviously can and will knock out the average joe
It’s weird that people think MMA wouldn’t compare to their street rules as if eye gouging, kicking or stomping the head of a downed opponent etc etc is some kind of skill you need to practice
A lot of folks are convinced that knowing how to gouge eyes or kick in the balls gives a you god knows how big advantage. Street opponent may vary from overconfident chump who never threw a proper punch in his life and anything will work against him, to retired boxer who may have lost some of his speed and coordination, but if he lands a punch you will wake up tommorow and realise you have not even touched him.
1 tell em to watch pride or ufc one 2 tell em that all fighting dirty will do is escalate the situation (check out armchair violence and icy Mike on this topic they have great videos)
When I was working and patrolling, in my experience, if you get attacked by multiple people and you're alone...it's unlikely you're going to be able to do much even if your strength/ability is greater than each of your attackers.
Exactly, I was able to deal with two when getting jumped but then a 3 rd one came in and I got my head kicked in and they tried rolling me into a river
Just in terms of body weight, multiple attackers overwhelm you, before we get into the natural animalistic tactics criminals employ as they manoeuvre around you while you deal with the primary threat. Regardless, one man vs two or three people must be highly skilled, an experienced fighter (not employing internet self defence bullshitudo, lucky and up against low ability attackers to come out on top. It does happen occasionally, but mostly it goes the other way.
@@TheEnrieb ya I have a lot more training then when I started and im a muscled 235 fight weight before cut is around 215 and I think I would still have a lot of issues with 3 people .. two people is manageable but after that, not so much
Dale clearly believes that any success by his company or its guards is directly attributed to the techniques he teaches. Narcissism at its finest. Considering how prevalent cameras have been for decades, I challenge Dale to find a single incident involving his security guards in which they used his specific techniques to overcome an assailant. After 27 years, thousands of employees, and all the lives his company has supposedly saved, there has to be ONE SINGLE incident of his techniques being used and caught on camera, somewhere. Right?
I used to work for Dale. AMA. Some of his techniques are legit, some are not. Hes fundamentally a good dude. Has a bit of ego on him, but he will drop whatever he is doing to help someone.
Fun story for people who believe in disarm techniques against firearms. I was 24 and working for bikers in a weed grow house. After a year the relationship went sour and when I went to get my final pay after our last crop they decided to put a scare and beating into me first. Walked in the house turned around and got sucker punched right in the mouth, guy's ring left a decent scar you can see when I shave. As I took the shot I reeled forward ready to counter, then the 9mm came out of his little paper bag. I froze instantly with my hands up, was ushered to the basement by his goon and promptly threw myself down the stairs so the enforcer wouldn't have the chance. Boss man bolted down after me and shoved the pistol into my mouth screaming and yelling. After having my face slapped around and my ribs kicked in from the 6"4 245 lbs kickboxer, boss man held the pistol to my knee and told me I would never walk straight again. 6 hours went by that felt like an eternity. Thousands of thoughts went through my head and not one of them was thinking it would be possible to disarm the weapon and escape using Steven Seagal level bullshit. However staying calm and complying was incredibly easy and got me out of their with minimal damage.
@@paulsciria8921 Honestly my life was never in danger, they were just trying to put fear in me. I think I knew that deep down throughout, even when he put it to my leg I remember thinking "there is no way he is gonna fire a gun in THIS house". Was honestly much more afraid during the ride home they gave me. That's when I truly felt unsafe and panic set in until they dropped me off.
A "contrived situation": one in which one side often holds all the cards, but presents it as balanced to the victim*. It's also called the Socratic Method. It's total effluvia, but widely accepted as a critical thought mechanism by those without the ability to think for themselves. *Rigged games of chance and sport fall into this category. You've spoken on just that topic when discussing the "unfair" fights you audited and participated in. When the refs and promoter know who's going to win in advance (no matter what objective reffing would say) it's a contrived situation, too. I know you've been there and done that. I enjoyed the stories.
@@elvispresley7529 Maluco me parou pra roubar o troco do açougue porque eu tava com uma sacola na mão. Muito ingênuo, parei pra ver o que ele queria dai ele mostrou o berro debaixo da blusa e pediu "o troco do bagulho". EDIT: Pelo menos fui embora com a carne lol EDIT 2: Até hoje meu irmão me zua dizendo que foi um velho de andador que me roubou.
I mean Creator Clash seemed to be a big UA-camr boxing event. They should totally throw in a few martial arts YTber vs martial arts YTber fights next time if possible.
LOL nothing quite like having Ramsey tell you "I'm disappointed in you," it's like a properly applied ankle lock directly to your conscience. Sadly, D.U.S.T. doesn't know what that feels like. :P
I have A LOT of respect for Dale's security company, which very pointedly emphasizes deescalation and careful selection of personnel over violence. So, it makes me sad to see him presenting himself as an ultra-macho tough guy on the internet. Maybe he needs the cash that comes from internet notoriety? (I wrote this part before the 20ish-minute mark where you presented the same conjecture) As a point of clarification, from what I understand, most of his security is actually UNARMED, with the goal being that NO ONE gets hurt (including the "bad guy"). So, with the emphasis on deescalation, I imagine his training is very effective at creating self confidence in his students, which can be a very strong deterrent to acts of violence when paired with sound judgement. I think he understands that the self confidence he gives to people is the most valuable part of his training (for better or worse), and that's why he's so protective of the training, and repeatedly alludes to the trust his students have in it, regardless of its actual effectiveness in a fight.
I felt the same way almost verbatim. Deescalation is another tool of self defense. But it's disheartening to see him act a fool. He's projecting and self aggrandizing when it ain't necessary. :(
@@augusto34no. He has jobs all over Detroit. Where they literally have to look after people/places/shipments that are directly in the hood. With your comment I thought you would've researched what they do a little bit. Sure alot of his self defense tips are bogus and stupid. Ok? That's his issue. It's not being a phony everything like you're describing.
Dale nor his company reside in Detroit. They are safely miles away. According to several of his former employees he is a centi-millianair and only protects high dollar gated communities on the outskirts of Detroit.
Does anyone else find it odd how he is calling out Ramsey Dewey who he knows lives in China, and yet I never saw him respond to Tom Deblass' offer of $50k to grapple with his female brown belt students? Just saying
I love how Ramsey calmly answers Dale, only a mature and humble person entitled as the true skilled warrior is able to do so. Hats off to you Sensei, respect!
You are absolutely correct about the situations set up to work regardless. Sadly I don't think this was purposeful, but felt like actual improvement and perfection.
Would you consider telling the stories you mentioned around 12:00 one day? I know they're extremely grim, and I would NOT want to ask you to relive those experiences if they will hurt you to think about, but I find that fascinating.
Hadn't seen that video, so had to go searching for it. What a great video. Would love to see both you and Chewie go to his compound and show him how it all really works. Keep up the great work.
Brother its always nice to see you, the beard looks badass. Dale needs a reality check and a long cut ass, honestly that guy is full of himself. He need to come to Trinidad and Tobago. He wanna talk about real life skills he won't last 30 secs with the street thugs much less for a local fighter.
He did some of his techniques against real resistance in video with peunguin0 who also said that his techniques suck before that so he is more legit than he seems
sure he made a video that made DUST seem more credible... but they are literally just a few gaming youtubers, they even admit themselves they dont really know anything about fighting. DUST is a conman, and you gotta know how to pick your targets... but as we always see with bullshito, they eventually get a bit too full of themselves.
Kinda but he didn’t do any of the techniques how he showed them. He actually had to do the things people pointed out when he called them idiots. Like, deflect the gun, and burst at no point did he magically step to the side and hold the gun out of battery. Basically proving himself wrong. Some of his stuff can kinda work but not like his stupid tiktoks and he really is just a jerk. Yes if I stand still for him he can poke me or trip me. I think Ramsey makes a fair point pointing out flaws in Techniques it’s the only way someone improves, he isn’t telling people to be raped and murdered. Also only thing that video really proves is he is stupid enough to play with a real gun.
Hermano, primero que nada saludos desde Chile, me encanta tu contenido, keep on the good work my friend! Solo quería mencionar que lamentablemente, la violencia y delincuencia en Latinoamérica es tal como la describes, lamento que hayas pasado por esas horribles experiencias y pérdidas. Concuerdo contigo, es triste cuando gente cegada por la comodidad de su realidad, ignoran la cruda vida que otros menos afortunados tienen. En fin, no todo es blanco y negro, no todo es 100% malo y Latinoamérica es una hermosa comunidad en su totalidad, te escribo en español porque te sentimos parte de esa comunidad mi hermano, ¡Un abrazo y mucho ánimo!
He waited for the China lockdown to say 'come to me or let me come to you and I'll win, otherwise you're a coward'. Hilarious. Ghetto piece of shit thinks he's not being a con artist but 'hustling'.
Greetings from argentina, Rosario... You always have great insight.. Glad you remember our country fondly, even with all its troubles.. I have only been mugged twice (daylight and at night) but I dont go out as much.. There are good practicioners here but still many mcdojos, anyways keep up the good work. Love your content. stay safe and healthy you and your family.
I suspect he's calling you out because he knows you live in Shanghai and he'll never cross your path? 😂 Dale is like one of those guys who trains for a few months then goes into his local boxing gym and challenges the trainer only to get some reality and humility beat into him! also I'm sorry as a long time subscriber and commenter if I ever swore in any of my comments 🙏 I'm Australian and swearing is as natural as breathing for us!
Ramsey, me gusta mucho tu canal, pero cuando te escuché hablar de Argentina simplemente me volví loco. Tengo 39 años y viví toda mi vida entre el barrio de Ciudadela, Haedo y ahora en la Capital Federal. Las cosas están bastante mal por aquí, algunas veces peor que otras. Quién no lo vivió no sabe lo que es estar aquí. Te felicito por la respuesta que le diste a ese señor, por el tono de sus palabras creo que ni siquiera merece tanta respuesta, pero tu experiencia y calidad humana se demuestra en tus palabras. Como decimos por aqui: "A la gilada ni cabida" Te mando un abrazo de amigo. Ojalá algún día pueda visitar China, me encantaría, y de paso visito tu gimnasio. Saludos!!!
It’s too easy for anyone who’s trained even a little in a serious art to pick them apart (DUST). Most of his takedowns can be disproven within your first 2 or 3 classes under a serious coach. My favorite ones are his demos on “BJJ black belts”. I’ve asked him several times to give up the names of the schools where these actors train to no avail. Bullshido at its finest.
100% real. Dale has left several Old Testament length comments on my videos where we tested out some of his techniques. This was the latest, and angriest one.
About a half hour in when dale's sentences start falling apart it sounds like how drunk people type. And with all the talking about how long he's been doing this for sounds like he's desperately trying to convince himself that he's actually teaching something useful
Myself and Tom Deblass both offered for him to meet at a neutral location. Tom offered him $50k to spar with a female student of his. I offered to pay for his flight, hotel and food to meet at a neutral location. Seems his response was to block both of us. The offers still stand and we could find a way to get you flown out as well when that’s possible if he’s down 🤷🏻♂️
He also has restricted all comments on his Instagram, will deleted negative comments and will block a lot of people who issue legit offers to meet up. He picks and chooses who he’s willing to meet with in order to make himself look better.
He literally tried to hurt Kenji then bragged about it when Kenji was literally allowing him to demonstrate a technique with no resistance. It was not sparring and he was bragging online like it was some kind of victory 🤦♂️
Yep. I saw the videos with Kenji. That was just disgusting to see. It’s one thing to be a goofy meme-worthy self defense guy on the internet, but another entirely to abuse people like that.
Dale will never agree to step on the mat with any of Tom’s students, but I love the fact that you guys put the offer on the table and put your money where your mouth is.
Thanks for stopping by Rob!
@@RamseyDewey of course. Dale is probably the biggest narcissist I have covered, and if you’ve seen the people I cover there have been a lot over the years. Dale loves Dale.
@@McDojoLife it’s was a female brown belt of his, right? Tom’s got some killer students, and he’s a legend himself. He must know to a certain degree the level of actual skill that exists in bjj despite trashing it.
@@RamseyDewey Dale said a bjj black belt mma fighter who died getting jumped would have lived he trained his system because sport and self defense are two different things. That level of disrespect and arrogance to say something absurd really is beyond belief.
I havent tried calling him out yet... as the only modern MMA channel to successfully get a "master" to respond and organise an actual fight, I think I can troll him into submission 🤣🤣🤣
“If you resist me more, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine” - Dale Kenobi
Hahahahahahahaha!
Sounds almost like a supersaiyan, the guy lives a fantasy
Forget he has the high ground
Laughing at the appearances if the devil takes away it's power
@@jeannazario2996 he's high rolling on the ground
Personally I always stir my morning coffee in a clockwise motion. Never have been shot in my life. Proves that this technique increases your chances of survivability.
Oh!!! I've been getting shot like 3 times a day for years!!! I finally know why! The curse of growing up with one of those backwards clocks! Thank you, oh wise coffee defense master!
@Steve Coffee grounds breaking at least
You have done it!!! You arevthe chosen one i have been searching for. Pleasevteach me this great skill and style. This newly rediscovered ancient art of waking up to reality.
I love it 😀 😍
I got knocked out after buying l and m reds. never buying that brand again !
Advanced stuff, right up there with pushing one big toe down and the other big toe up.
Breaking down crappy women's self defense techniques and other self defense techniques and showing why they don't work and what works better, IS helping thousands of people defend themselves better
bottom line is talk is cheap... some things have to be felt and not just seen at the surface level on video. Hopefully they meet up to test some things, but there have already been professional MMA fighters more experienced than Ramsey that have tested Dale's methods (Marcus Kowal and Brandon Hunt). They gave him pretty solid praise.
You must have never researched DUST.. i though it was nonsense till I actually looked them up. they are a multi million dollar security company because they have successfully ACTUALLY defended many women and Children who were endanger so he makes so dumb videos… he says it’s an option Vs doing nothing.. ….these videos have not helped HALF as many people that dust has actually saved
And not even that, something like the DUST guru (or any other guru, like Master Wrong or DKHug, but they're cunning and only looking at ther business, they know it's better not to do that) legitimately thinking that he won't just be making a fool out of himself by going up against someone competent like Ramsey is laughable.
It's great that he did and it's how it should be, but of course it's not great for the DUST guy himself and his sketchy business.
@@BlackMartialArtsSociety You forgot to already look into your comparison and argument though.
His business definitely doesn't do and didn't get successful by using the bs Dale cuts up on the side on social media.
Apple and Oranges, Venusian Oranges.
Especially because they aren't a fictional movie-like party that deals with fighting droves of athletic and drugged up young guys, and they definitely wouldn't use that, primary, secondary, tertiary, whatever, because there are only few real ways to get out alive of Third World-like bad mugging/fighting scenarios like that.
@@BlackMartialArtsSociety If you think the average security company employee is a proficient combatant then I think you are mistaken. The kinds of people who attack women and children are not generally physically formidable people. Most often, they are only interested in attacking the weak or those they outnumber. This means that you don't have to be very physically capable to have "defended many women and children". I hope you understand this post. Perhaps you will.
I’m a felon and did 5 years in federal prison, my story’s 50 pages in the book Dopesick that’s now a tv show with Michael Keaton. I was on bond for two years in which I trained at a kenpo karate school that was mostly self defense sequences and you always heard “street vs sport.” I trained 4 hours a day 6 days a week, I knew I’d probably have to fight in prison so it was a priority (I also took a college corrections class while on bond). We did VERY basic grappling 2 days a month, and sparring once every other month. In prison when self defense sequences that were “street lethal” didn’t work, the basic grappling did! Every time! I read Geoff Thompson’s books about his realization that karate wasn’t enough so he started boxing and judo. He called judo martial arts best kept secret. Today I’m a brown belt under Egyptian Olympian Tarek Moneir who coached the USA judo team, a blue belt under world champion Paulo Santana, and box with Scott Sigmon. Pressure tested sparring arts are what work, NOT bs self defense sequences. I trained at two locations the kenpo teacher had, each was open 3 days a week, so I got 4 years of training in 2 years. I also powerlift (check my channel, over 500 on deadlift) so I’m not an incompetent weakling, half speed self defense sequences simply did NOT work while grappling did BECAUSE we actually rolled (sparred) when we did it monthly. In a life of dealing almost all fights I’ve been in and seen have been one on one. In prison 99% were. Fights are chaotic, usually a few punches and then as soon as someone gets hit they end up in a clinch and from there a quarter of the time it ends on the ground. Today I train judo/bjj twice 4 days a week 2 hours each session and once 3 days weekly 2 hours each of those days. Training has kept me clean and off heroin since April 9th 2010. I do work with addicts and kids today, life is good. I actually help teach law enforcement in judo, I’ve been doing it for 5 years and made it my life along with bjj and boxing and although not an expert I know enough to help assist and pass it on some helpful information. I know about violence, I’ve seen a lot of it and been in a handful of situations myself. It’s amazing the mcdojo “for da streetz” thing is still actually a thing!
McDojos are always going to be popular because it's easy to sell BS to people that don't want to put in effort to research and train things that will work.
Might I suggest muay thai as well? excellent shin conditioning and the kicks are deadly! Also loved this comment as a whole.
@@astrosherlock374 I love Muay Thai but we don’t have any specialists within 2 hours of where I live. We have a judo Olympian named Tarek Moneir where I live, an hour away is Scott Sigmon (Roy Jones JR most recent opponent prior to Tyson, wen that distance with Roy and won 2 rounds but lost), and I drive a 5 hour round trip for noon class, a two hour private lesson, and evening class before driving home from training with world champ Paulo Santana. I like Muay Thai, and actually have been grinding a broom stick down my shin daily for a decade (one thing the karate mcdojo got me doing). I practice kicks, but in actual fights I’ve been in the balance on different surfaces I mostly wouldn’t have felt comfortable throwing a kick. I wish there was someone nearby, I’d definitely be training in it if there was!
@@thedopesickshow That's unfortunate, but you are already pretty good and effective at other highly efficient martial arts so I don't think you'll need it anyway, I have a solid Muay Thai base, I'm developing my ground game with BJJ and Judo for BJJ now so I can perform better at MMA. It would be pretty good to train under you! Unfortunate I don't live in the US though
@@astrosherlock374 haha, it’d be cool to train with you too bud! I’m not on the level to be a coach yet, but I’m pretty good at assisting people in class. I’m not a natural, but I work harder than most and train twice as much as most. When I mess up a technique a thousand times before understanding it it’s actually helpful once I do understand it, because at that point I know all common mistakes most people make and can articulate exactly what each limb does and how to turn which way. I think one day I’ll be a good coach, that’s the plan and dream! Self defense schools in general are a joke, but if you combine a few legitimate combat sports arts and do regular sparring I think it’s possible to make something that would help people learn how to fight quicker. Geoff Thompson really did well combining what was useful from his karate training with boxing and judo, great instructionals ALL available on UA-cam! They’re old, but some of the best for actual real self defense.
People who are legit don't need to defend their "product" so adamantly. Let the results speak for themselves.
@I Voted For Biden And Love Abortion He's trash. He's getting people killed. He doesn't explain that if different guns are used you have to use different tactics. Single action vs double action, if you do 90% of what he says with someone who can just touch the trigger to shoot.. it will kill you.
Look up his product and as the THOUSANDS OF woman and children who are alive thanks to his company… there is a reason the company makes millions. They have literally stepped in for the police in their city and people called them
Over the cops
Some people who know they are wrong or suspect they are wrong fight more fiercely to defend what they are claiming. And they get nasty and undermine the people's intellects really severely whom they are arguing or debating with. In person and over the telephone, it's always people whose intellects are inferior who do this. I don't know about web wars, but in person and over the telephone, I've never witnessed anyone who wasn't an airhead do this.
Who is John Galt?
Yes results are determined by others did we were not successful we would not have value. If we did not understand the law we would be prosecuted and if we did not understand psychology we would not recognize real from false threats. Without skills you will not survive in Detroit actually responding to peoples emergency conditions.
Dale came to the gym I work at in LA to demonstrate his techniques in person. Not only are his techniques total bullshit, he knows they are and plays up the whole thing selling it not as the best response to violence but as being “a last ditch effort to survive”. He’s a snake oil salesman but he ain’t fooling anyone. Great video thank you
A-la Master Wong
@@dusk6159 At least wong is pretty fit..
I'd put my money on Master Wong in that fight honestly. We need an MMA version of creator clash. This could be the main event
@@arnefines2356 Indeed, at least that. Which is of course a huge factor. Like physical characteristics and abilities too.
The only gym I went to in LA demonstrated that every tactic worked 100% absolutely not one technique did not work.
THE INDIVIDUAL THAT PRESSURE TESTED THE TACTICS WAS A PRO MMA FIGHTER
YOU ARE A LIAR WHOEVER YOU ARE!
Argentinian here..... From Buenos Aires, I can attest to what he said about the level of violence in those neighborhoods, I have the luck of spending some years in USA, a lot of people in first world countries do not understand the level of danger and violence in the shantytowns of south America. There is no law, there are no cops, you will be atacked on sight just by walking into them if you don't live there and your life is meaningless... ... ... You either give up your things or you run away before they box you in, there is not fighting drugged up teenagers with firearms, that is insane.
Hope you can come back to Argentina Ramsey, you are welcome to stop by my house for some asado and mate
Vienen a LATAM pensando que es una fiesta. Son muy ingénuos
I would love to come back to Argentina one day. ¡Aguante Argentina!
This is absolutely real and spot on, those people don't appreciate but, especially, are so filled with luxury that they probably can't even see how good they have it, there in the US or here in Western Europe.
Can i go eat some asado and mate too?? Argentinian asados are the best!!!
You obviously never been to Miami that's exactly what it's like but even worse... I'm pretty confident that if you were to be dropped in Miami you wouldn't make it out alive there's no safe place for you there
Hey Ramsey, listened to this while driving yesterday. Dale Brown has mastered the art of the Straw Man. It’s an argument tactic where one frame’s his opponent’s views or arguments in a particular way, then attacks that straw man instead of the actual argument. And his cult of personality keeps inflating his ego. He won’t actually spar you, and he’ll use the “this technique is too dangerous” line.
Love the videos, keep up the good work!
I don't know if you saw this, but Tom DeBlass, who is a high level BJJ competitor (and Gordon Ryan's first BJJ instructor, by the way) offered this Dale guy $50K plus travel expenses, I believe, if he is willing to try and submit one of his high level female purple belts. No answer, of course lol
Interesting, perhaps we could use GoFundMe to set up a purse for a competition between Dale and Ramsey? Strict Street rules only, with shoes.
I saw it, yeah.
Damn, that's absolutely nailed and the best thing to possibly do in these cases! And even at his own expenses especially! Even more respect to be had.
Of course Dale and Wong know that their snake-oil can produce them way more loot (from all of their hopeful's pockets) than that honest offer.
ill fight one
@@Mindstangle 50k for stuff a lot of people do for free, or even pay for, does sound like a great deal.
There was a part in one of his videos that made me laugh until I almost cried. The context was in a short distance self defense situation against an attacker with a firearm and he said something basically like : "if you get shot in the chest just keep going. you'll surprise the attacker".
I would like to see the demonstration by Dale ...you know so we actually do it CORRECTLY
Hey being immortal/bulletproof would be heck of a surprise for anyone so he was not wrong there.
It's true. If you man up you might be able to flip out your automatic folder from your pocket and take the shooter to the afterlife with you.
Rokas, from MartialArtsJourney, says he's organizing a ''self-defense'' tournament in a gym in australia for youtube martial-arts instructors. You should check out that video, and invite Dale to meet you there.
I know. He invited me to come. I don’t know if I’ll be able to given the current political situation with China though.
Can I join?
He can’t because he has a sports head injury lol 😂 you also missed that episode
Where he explained why he can’t spar or compete.
But he is your guru lol
@@DetroitThreatManagementCenter lmao, so you won’t respond to the offer to spar someone not even on his level of expertise in the field, but can still talk trash. Guess you’re not as busy “protecting the innocents” of Gotham as you claimed
@@DetroitThreatManagementCenter
You are very childish when you get criticism. Seriously? Making fun of a supposed head injury? That's pretty low.
"We tested out some pretty crappy self defense techniques." When you said that, I almost hit the floor laughing! 😆 lol 😆 Teacher, happy birthday to you're daughter.
Figures..the ONE guy Dale offers to show up and 'show his stuff' on is the ONE guy in lockdown. Almost like Dale knew or something...
Makes you think
Dale's con artistry knows no bounds. Zero honor. Zero empathy. All grift.
Nah, TOTALLY coincidence.
most lockdowns are done china still 1 of the worst shet holes on earth way too much corruption
Now I'm going to start wearing wrestling shoes to bed, just in case
I love how you keep your emotions in tact, sign of a true martial artist, not only in control of your body, but in control of your emotions. Also another thing, he says you’re disgusting how you “deceive” your audience. I think it’s equally as disgusting for him to say “this person got beat up horribly, it wouldn’t have happened if he trained with me but he chose to train bjj which is a sport”. He actively uses people misfortune as a way to advertise. Also yes I’ve been saying this, he always says “you don’t know because you don’t live in Detroit so you don’t experience what we do” Dewey I see that you have probably experienced worst than a lot of us and you still advocate to do “MMA style” training. Dale can’t take an L. You know how most MMA schools will tell you “leave your ego at the door” well no wonder why he doesn’t train in those schools, he simply can’t leave his ego at the door
True, Dale is trying to make people feel unsafe. It’s like he’s leading a cult.
Or just his personality... wanderli Silva isn't a calm guy neither are a few mma legends who are true Martial artist black belts.. ex mma world champions arnt all chill but would fuck this guy up there technique are miles better.. some of the best grapplers ever weren't chill they were wild men especially the Brazilians different culture they guys like renzo Ryan... Paulo filho arona Ralph Gracie crazy guy still and many more guys were nuts but there technique was world class and Brazil is wild the old dojo storms guys were wild ... but were world class fighters make this guy look like a whitebelt
Maybe he's of a low intellect? I ponder this because I've never known anyone who was of a low intellect who wasn't also morally inferior (not counting people who are mildly retarded or a handful of IQ points away from it). I researched stupid people online and I found a web site that had a passage from a psychiatrist who said that stupid people "don't have the mental capacity" to feel empathy for others. Also, I have noticed that all stupid people are sickies, so they like to be sadistic. And because they are sickies, they don't take well to criticism. And because they are stupid, they also don't take well to criticism. To state the obvious, one reason this is true is because stupid people are buffoons and so they are the most egotistical people in the world.
What I really like is Ramsey seems to have no style prejudice.
Mic drop
20:15 “you’re not a superhero, you’re not Batman.”
If anyone doesn’t have time to watch the whole video, this basically sums up what the Coach is trying to say to DustMan.
And they're even already smart and business-oriented enough that they absolutely know and don't care to begin with.
This concept has the people that listen to them, and that think that they can defy reality thanks to their product, as those that need to get this message and snap out of it thanks to this.
"How is the weather over there in the neighborhood of make-believe this time of year. I would like to know". This had me dead. Priceless
😂
Yeah that was good. Lol.
I like how instead of shouting stupid in an angry voice, Ramsey managed to turn it into jokes that highlights how stupid it is while he was still effective at making a point.
If only the cunning frauds like Wong and DKO would also do like the less-cunning DUST guy did.
Being an Argentinian myself, I've got assaulted in the streets 3 times in my life and knowing how to throw a proper punch and a half-assed push kick, may have not saved my life, but at least my cellphone and my wallet.
what? are u saying u died but u typed this from heaven but u saved ur phone and wallet?
I'm replying on this because I'm curious to hear the answer to Mix Martial Nutrition's question (I asked my self the same):)
@@mixedmartialnutrition1746 I would never punch someone with a knife, lmao. These were unarmed thiefs that try to feign they have weapons or just intimidate you. They will try to kick your ass, but not outright kill you.
before I listen I'll assume it says "let's meet up in person, you were doing it wrong, something about the streets, if you don't appear on my channel then you're a coward"
Dale's company is such a scam, he has a neighborhood watch company that he pretends is some sort of SpecOps unit. It's honestly kind of sad
I thought he started leaning into the meme. Apparently not
He did a video with peunguin0 who said that hia techniques suck before and ciuld pull some of his texhniques
Bruh I died at spec ops😂😂
Sad and murderously grifting. He's getting people killed. He doesn't explain that if different guns are used you have to use different tactics. Single action vs double action, if you do 90% of what he says with someone who can just touch the trigger to shoot.. it will kill you.
He actually does help people in Detroit though. That part is good. His bs scam fighting techniques are wrong though. That part is bad.
Hello Ramsey thanks to you i just did my first day at judo. The ground work sparring was awesome.
I it brought back memories of when I was training judo at 7. (45 years old now.) And the weight lifting helped too 😅
As someone whose been in more "street fights", than is reasonable here is my input.... fighting is fast, brutal and usually very clumsy. Even trained fighters tend to fail to implement "technique".
It's best to avoid a situation where violence may occur. 2nd best to flee or give them what they want., the 3rd option is to grab a force multiplier, and bluff. Lastly to fight.
If you fight, know you will be frightened or angry. Probably both. The blood pumping through your muscles and the adrenaline in your brain will make you clumsy. It will come down to whoever is more aggressive and better armed. Dale's videos are useless, and Ramsey is wise enough not to pretend MMA experience makes him batman.
One more point violence does something to you.. all my youthful violence is still carried with me. I am a Adreline junkie, I have anger issues, ptsd, nightmares, intense guilt ect. It destroyed my marriage, not because I was violent toward my family but because they couldn't handle the anxiety depression cycles that were a direct result of my violent past. Don't try to be that person the cost isnt worth it.
"violence does something to you" thank you for that part
I don't know, I've seen videos where trained fighters got into street fights and used their usual techniques pretty well but I get what you're saying
@@joeberger3441 Yeah that's why I said: "tend to". There have been cases where boxers and MMA fighters have done well when attacked. But these are actual competitors with several fights under their belts. They were probably also involved in brawling before converting to fighting. Just as many pros have been mugged or involved in a home invasion and not been unable to respond appropriately.
Here is my experience. The other day working the rough side of downtown Houston. I stop at a gas station where half a dozen men are going about their business. However, two men are involved in a violent altercation. One clearly homeless man is slapping around another homeless man in a wheelchair.
The men several carrying concealed weapons (This is a safe assumption in texas) instead of intervening suddenly find somewhere else to be... Because the scene made them uncomfortable, they didn't know how to respond... And they shouldn't really.
All I did was walk by and say " HEY!! stop that" problem solved. Because I understand violence better.
That type of indecision is magnified 100x when you the target of the violence.
I could tell stories all day but if you haven't lived a life where violence was normal, it's hard to explain... And I don't know how to do it without coming across like a want to be a tough guy... I like fighting, not just the technical side of it... I like the feeling of power I have when breaking another person... But I also hate that I like it.
A took a job as a meter reader when I was young, and have survived uncountable dog attacks. I have scars on my hands and face from being attacked by two great Danes. I very easily could have died.... I enjoyed every moment of it.
And I feel guilt, deep remorseful guilt for feeling that way. The kinda guilt that keeps you up at night, and makes you cry without knowing why... I haven't been in a fight in ten years, im practicing pacifism, but even the chance of violence makes my heart race makes me feel alive, and makes me feel dirty inside...
MMA won't prepare you to be the type of person that survived multiple violent situations, and that's a good thing. Pray you never become that kind of person.
Because then you die and a monster takes your place
Thanks for sharing. All useful points.
As someone also intimately familiar with violence, I agree 100%. Everything you said rings true, like I wrote it myself. I'm the most violent pacifist you'll ever meet. I do not consider myself a "tough guy" or "badass", and I will do everything humanly possible to prevent or defuse a volatile situation, because after 20 years of warfighting, I know that I will instinctively take the lethal option, even if there are other options available. Why? Because showing mercy to an aggressor has gotten me fucked up before, and I refuse to take that chance again. Because of this, I've more or less isolated myself from most public interactions. I know I'm fucked up, and this was the most effective solution until I find something better. You're not alone, friend. And the only people that can help us get through this and do better are others like us. I know you don't know me, but if you ever need someone to help talk you down? Reach out. I'll do what I can, because it fucking matters, and no one should have to go through the shit folks like us have gone through, let alone KEEP going through it.
I come for the rants 👍
But the image of Dale in a batman mask is golden. Could absolutely see him at a comic con teaching his moves.
I wonder why Dale picked a fight with the guy that is locked in a country on the otherside of the planet and didn't challenge the other guy that was with Ramsey in the video but is located just one state away.?.?
IDEA:
Let's get Chewy to take a road trip!
My first thoughts exactly! I bet if Jesse Enkamp or Sensei Seth said anything dale wouldn't say a word! 😂
@@pavlovsdogman no Jesse is too nice he would go along with dale even if he knows his techniques are bad
@@jaydenbrown4386 sadly sensei Seagal proved that
@@robotix2106 Actually its proven that Steven segal's grappking and other in-close techniques are much more refined than Dale's.
@@Defender78 I mean its Aikido so there is some semblance of a martial art in there.
"If you were capable or competent, we would see evidence of that in real life."
You mean, like, the actual professional fights that Ramsey's fought in?
I imagine his enormous comment was made with a keyboard rather than a phone, but as we know, according to Dale, the hands "aren't designed to hold things very well" so he probably couldn't hold his phone long enough to type all that.
I am a way better keyboard warrior my keyboards are made of steel
Did he really say that??!?? That’s actually kinda funny. If anything, the hands are the most effective part of the body to hold things well
You do see the evidence in real life if you look 👀 we have been featured in many media stories about protecting people in real life in Detroit and you can’t do that successfully without being very capable of managing violence.
Detroit is not like Shanghai China LOL according to the FBI it’s the most dangerous city in United States most years.
We protect families 24/7 and police are called before we are called and we arrive before police and solve the issues 99% of the time before the arrive. We take the home invaders into custody and we specialize in not causing unnecessary injury and deaths. This has been for the past 27 years.
@@robertblockbusterrowe3351 what you said is true they the most effect part of the human body at holding things. What I said is also true. The hand is not made to hold things very well. This is a fact that you cannot hold my hand my arm or a finger of mine if I do not allow you. Your have is easily opened and in fact you cannot hold your self up on a chin up bar using your hands, you can be pulled down very easily.
You cannot hold a gun or a knife in your hands very well at all. The reason I say that is so people are not surprised when a person takes a weapon from their hands or it slips in their hands durning conflict.
Police officers, security, home and business owners need to understand how vulnerable they are before losing their gun i a conflict by a untrained person that grabs their gun and takes it from them.
Our training has saved countless lives and you can find their video testimonials on our UA-cam channel.
@@DetroitThreatManagementCenter Ramsey literally addressed this in the video, which you clearly didn't bother watching.
The point Ramsey is making isn't that your organisation isn't doing good, or that the armed security guards that work for you aren't capable of serving as a deterrent to crime.
His point is that the fighting techniques you teach are absolute garbage, and you have no idea whatsoever what you're doing. The hand to hand skills you show in your videos would not work in reality, and exactly NONE of the (alleged) successes of your organisation can be attributed to them.
At least in that aspect, you're a charlatan. And, because of that, I'm also extremely skeptical of everything else you say about what your organisation does and how successful you are; in short, I don't actually believe a word you say and nobody else should. For good reasons: the most publicly viewable content about you and your organisation exposes you as a fraud.
If you don't want to be treated as a joke and a fraud, then stop producing youtube videos where you teach bogus fighting techniques to your cult like followers.
People like Dale are very important - they're great confidence boosters for younger martial arts instructors like myself LOL
Seriously though, it's been very refreshing to see not only the usual suspects trashing his videos, but also your average person realizing "Hey, what's going on with self defense? This is goofy." Even if it is just one guy.
I constantly have to remind myself and my students that I have a lot to learn, just like them - but I will teach better concepts and techniques than a lot of older, more "experienced" "instructors" because a lot of people out there have used their time to gain worthless experience.
I hope one day to start a gym and attempt to be at least competent in a sea of... whatever 'self defense experts' are selling lol.
Something I've learned as I got older (34 now, so plenty of learning left!) is that experts often stop learning so can have outdated knowledge.
I had surgery this week and taught the consultant who did it all about the specific condition. It wasn't new to him in terms of seeing the thing, hence he was happy to operate, but he wasn't aware of the latest information and the classification of exactly what it was because the definitive paper on that had only come out recently.
Good doctors (which he was/is) do tend to stay roughly up to date, but in other fields I've often seen people not do that. It may well be that they're using skills and knowledge that was 100% correct at the time. Hopefully the familiarity of younger generations to the internet will reduce this issue, but I suspect it'll still be common- so many people still drive with their hands at 10/2 and shuffle the wheel...
@@Ema-nuel Properly- 9/3. Not that I'm saying religiously sticking to that is necessary of course, can't park like that. Also, nothing wrong with a bit of lazy cruising!
10/2 is like balancing on a fulcrum, it's inherently unstable. At rest it's balanced but even the tiniest movement changes the balance in the system, whereas 9/3 gives a straight line through the pivot which means it's always perfectly balanced no matter how you turn the wheel. Also, wheels are designed for that so it's comfier anyway (and doesn't involve holding your arms up as much).
Wasn't intending to get into a car debate though, I was using it as an example of how old knowledge stays around even when it's well known to be wrong.
I've trained security and law enforcement professionally and I still do. I can tell you that 80% of what gets passed off as defensive tactics is nonsense. The other 20% is never stress trained or trained with intensity (usually money and liability concerns and fails under stress).
I am on coach Dewey's side all day.
I agree 100%, but will say that DT is improving. My training 14 years ago was so bad it was scary, these days we are using far better (and more regular) training.
@@Nethezbet oh yeah it's definitely on the up. The problem is so many agencies lag behind. I guess that's the nature of the beast. But there are definitely levels to this. The good places place that extra emphasis on aliveness and scenario training. I doubt D.U.S.T does much of either.
@@gajorg69 Pretty sure Dale buys into the Bullshido principle of "This is too dangerous to do full speed/live."
@@gajorg69 Until all agencies are assimilated the public and enforcers will have to suffer thru the bullshido. lol
You really know the kinda video to start my weekend. 🤣🤣🤣
I've also received the "you're taking away people's hope that they can defend themselves" argument, and I truly don't understand it. There are two things that really break this argument down. First, isn't telling people that a bad technique won't work, and might get them hurt, better than giving people FALSE hope and confidence in techniques? And secondly, telling people that bad techniques don't work is not the same as saying that there are NO techniques which will work, these people act as if by pointing out their bad techniques you're also forbidding any alternative techniques be practiced. And as you mentioned, you've always advocated that people should get out there and train themselves, test what they learn until they find what works for them.
Sorry you had to have Dale flood your comments section with those, but thanks for giving a thoughtful, well-structured response to it.
To my eyes, it translates to "you ruined the party". You know, the "hope to defend". Like lyrics of a power metal song (ew).
It's a bit of a pitiful state but, at that point, I don't think there's turning back. It reminds me of mild protests in my University, where some weird people group kind of on their own but also somewhat loud, an odd mix, and they bark in a slow and pitiful manner like a drunk dog. I used to find it "inappropriate" but today I find it sad. Like I want to help these people. And yes they praise their holy political techniques and whoever goes against them... The same as the self defense techniques. Whoever goes against them ruins the party!
Sorry your opinion makes no sense because unlike you we use our training in real life. Why are you confused?
That is not a thoughtful well structured response, that response is pure pontification and you are co-signing it.
@@DetroitThreatManagementCenter Even assuming your guys really do go out and beat up ne'er-do-wells, it doesn't mean the particular techniques that Dewey criticized are functional. Just like in the curriculums of many systems and styles, there may be some good stuff and some bad stuff. If someone is taught basic boxing, and then to back flip in response to a push and fire off a chi ball in retaliation, and they later win a fight, guess which strategy I think they used, the boxing or the chi ball?
It's entirely possible that your hand to hand training has plenty of useful techniques and viable tactics that you convey to various officers. It's equally possible that, figuratively, among any hits you score in your curriculum, there will also be misses. There is no perfect, infallible system, and bad techniques do exist. To claim otherwise would be the true pontification.
Oh, and while I have your attention (never thought this would happen!), even if they're not your most advanced students, you probably shouldn't be letting these guys get the idea that you should have your opponent fall over your tucked knees in Yoko Wakare: ua-cam.com/video/FalM0ZlBfRM/v-deo.html It also would probably help to get a more solid grip on the opponent before dropping yourself to the floor. Furthermore, if done properly, they'll actually be rolling over your chest, not your knees. If we're borrowing from Judo, we should at least do it the right way, so I'll leave a couple demonstrations for you to reference.
ua-cam.com/video/uDIDika0f1k/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/bp1tscHlePI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/A2mmLS0JcE8/v-deo.html
DUST calling Xiao “little buddy”???
He apparently hasn’t seen what XiAo could do with a rubber knife.
😂😂😂😂
小不是太小了哈哈
The context of security work tends to be very different from civilian self defense. Security and law enforcement rely heavily on teamwork. Whenever possible, they want to subdue an individual with the help of as many of people as they can. Even bad techniques will work if there's 3 of you going after one guy. So having successfully subdued individuals with a team really has no relevance to an ordinary citizen looking for advice on how to fight in self-defense. Which is what Dale Brown claims to be teaching.
Exactly and whenever an officer is shown fighting someone alone, before backup arrives, the ones with a grappling background always shine while the ones clearly without one really struggle (and sometimes escalate to deadly force or get hurt/killed themselves)
I rarely comment twice, but this video had the gears in my brain turning, trying to be fair and impartial.
I come across guitar players that say, "yeah, but he is technical, so he can't shred." A technical guitar player is technical, because they know theory very well, they know every scale, every chord, every technique. Dale, basically is doing the same thing: Saying that a highly trained combat fighters would be lacking in a street situation is the same as saying that a technical guitarists can't shred. Very illogical and I hope that he is just being defensive at the moment and not really separating from logic.
You are confusing technique and knowledge of theory when it comes to guitar playing. A musician could be technically excellent whilst not knowing what a chord is. "Shredding" is not a quantifiable element of guitar playing; it's just a vulgar metaphor. What you refer to as shredding requires good technical ability but does not require very much knowledge of musical theory. None of this is my fault. :)
A highly trained combat sport fighter without self defense ability (situational awareness, deescalation and the like) can fair worse if he is too sure of what he can do while not reading the room or peeping the parameters of a hostile situation. A bit of both are required to do well. This video and Dale's feel like thesis and antithesis. I'm waiting for the synthesis
@@bw5020 I don’t think Ramsey would disagree with you honestly. And even if you’re Jon Jones you’re still in trouble against a weapon, you never know who is packing. DUST guy teaches point blank gun disarms, which is absolutely insane to try for real. That alone would give 1000x more insane false self confidence than any combat sport.
@@HerculesLoyd Very true, if you are ever in such a situation you comply and give them what they want. Real life isn't a John Wick movie.
I really hope China opens up soon. Dale vs Ramsey will be the funniest content on the internet
and it will be reviewed by Fight Commentary Breakdowns like " ok dude no. this guys never sparred before... this guy has never sparred before" lolz
I love me some stories about your time in Argentine. Great video as always.
"than Dale himself is more little" , that's gold man, ossu!!
Every once in a while I'll try a dust technique on a friend at random, without telling them what I'm doing. I'll do it exactly the way it's pictured in the dust video, and after they've stopped giggling and asked me what I'm doing I'll just look confused and wander away.
"Danger" Ramsey Lincoln Dewey! I appreciate your tenderheartedness towards birthdays. Happy belated 4 September 2021. My father was 43 when I was born, as I am reminded by your age. By the way, you look great. I believe you are stronger than two lions in their prime. Thank you for the Lesson(s). Pure Love & Respect.
liang zhi lao hu Two Tigers
Coach, i love how you throw these truth bombs.kkkk
Thats cult language dale. This is an intervention. Im saving you from that dark path.
😂😂😂😂😂
Apples and potatoes? The French do call the potato the apple of the earth Ramsey! I'm sure there's an apple-robot connection somewhere...
Honestly wasn't expecting myself to just sit and watch the full 43.5 mins of this, but it was entertaining so here I am (ok 41 mins right now). I'd love to see an actual collab video to properly test Dale's techniques. I feel like the Ramsey side has some "these specific techniques" in it, so perhaps there needs to be a pre-agreed rule set for any collab. By that I mean Dale should pick maybe 10 unarmed techniques and have him and one of his staff try to use them against both Ramsey and another fighter.
My favorite rebuttal was "it's comments like these that tell me you don't belong in a conversation with me on this topic..." LMFAO! Been following you for awhile my friend. You have excellent content & I have no doubt you are very adept at what you do... a "dangerous man" if you will in the world of MMA. But your intellect and ability to articulate things in a manner that cuts through the bullshit is top notch, and probably the most formidable thing about you! Keep up the good work...always speaking the gospel! PS. I was robbed a couple times in my life as well. Not in a 3rd world country... but robbed at gunpoint nonetheless. No amount of training mattered... I prayed! Hope the lock down ends soon.
I have never been mugged by someone with a gun, thankfully. I have been mugged by people with bottles, bricks, machetes, and other implements. Thankfully each time they were content with whatever amount of cash I was able to hand over. Two years in El Salvador gave me plenty of opportunities to get familiar with being threatened. I agree, people who have never been to third world countries usually don't know what they are talking about when they make those statements.
Man, I am totally agree. I am from Buenos Aires, got robbed twice and I really find funny some personal defense advices and drills even from good and respected channels such as hard2hurt, which I love . But in those good channels at least they talk about context and expectations.
I had a student ask me if any of his "stuff is legit" I told him to pull up any 3 videos and we would try it and once it failed I would then show him 3 different ways to actually defend against each. It's actually not a terrible method when you are short on time to plan out the class before hand. He got to add 9 new techniques to his tool belt and I got a good laugh.
What do you teach?
Whats best to learn for self defense?
Dale coming at you with talking points of other people. 😂😂
By the way, I worked hospital security for 3 1/2 years, and only had to go hands on or come very close three times. One was checking a guy trying to hit a nurse, one was to pin the arm of a violent person, and one a guy laid in wait for me because I had to keep him out of the ER. The latter I was ready for a fight, but he responded to verbal commands. Almost everything I was able to talk down. I have seen more than most people are aware hospital security encounters
Any security officer that is getting in fights on a regular basis, is just not good at their job.
"THAT WOULDNT WORK IN THA STREETS!!" Constantly said by someone who teaches techniques that wouldnt work anywhere at all, let alone "tha streets". If you get attacked on the streets, give them what they want, or very importantly, if you size them up and think you can outrun them, run away.
Sound advice which most actual self defense instructors will tell you. Either run if you have the distance or comply giving the attacker what they want. You only resist as your last option. Also they will tell you that if you resist you will get hurt and it's just a matter of severity.
@@bradmiles1984 yep it all depends on the situation
greatest quote of the day (12:27):
‘that tells me…you don‘t belong into a conversation about this topic’
People fail to realize that a professional fighter in an MMA match with rules can knock somebody out in a professional fight they could do it with no rules as well and be far more proficient at it
Violence only works if you’re the one using it.
that's just wrong..you haven't thought about the shoes.
@@SplicedSerpents I prefer sneakers lol 😂😆 pumas
if they could knock out another professional fighter who's deffending themselves and actively trying to knock them out then they obviously can and will knock out the average joe
@@imaddjilali7610 I agree
Looking forward to the video with you and dust! It's gonna be viral!!
It’s weird that people think MMA wouldn’t compare to their street rules as if eye gouging, kicking or stomping the head of a downed opponent etc etc is some kind of skill you need to practice
A lot of folks are convinced that knowing how to gouge eyes or kick in the balls gives a you god knows how big advantage. Street opponent may vary from overconfident chump who never threw a proper punch in his life and anything will work against him, to retired boxer who may have lost some of his speed and coordination, but if he lands a punch you will wake up tommorow and realise you have not even touched him.
@@Endru85x yeah
1 tell em to watch pride or ufc one
2 tell em that all fighting dirty will do is escalate the situation (check out armchair violence and icy Mike on this topic they have great videos)
You just put Crappling into my vocabulary lol. Thank you!
When I was working and patrolling, in my experience, if you get attacked by multiple people and you're alone...it's unlikely you're going to be able to do much even if your strength/ability is greater than each of your attackers.
Exactly, I was able to deal with two when getting jumped but then a 3 rd one came in and I got my head kicked in and they tried rolling me into a river
Oh u got very little chance against multiple attacks without a game changing weapon
Just in terms of body weight, multiple attackers overwhelm you, before we get into the natural animalistic tactics criminals employ as they manoeuvre around you while you deal with the primary threat. Regardless, one man vs two or three people must be highly skilled, an experienced fighter (not employing internet self defence bullshitudo, lucky and up against low ability attackers to come out on top. It does happen occasionally, but mostly it goes the other way.
@@TheEnrieb exactly
@@TheEnrieb ya I have a lot more training then when I started and im a muscled 235 fight weight before cut is around 215 and I think I would still have a lot of issues with 3 people .. two people is manageable but after that, not so much
Excellent Analysis, I hope you make it out of the city. Peace Warrior 😎
As always, very balanced in your critique, even recognizing that the guy does something in his neighborhood by patrolling the streets
4:15 "apples and robots" lol 😆
Great line, gotta use that sometime!
Dale clearly believes that any success by his company or its guards is directly attributed to the techniques he teaches. Narcissism at its finest. Considering how prevalent cameras have been for decades, I challenge Dale to find a single incident involving his security guards in which they used his specific techniques to overcome an assailant. After 27 years, thousands of employees, and all the lives his company has supposedly saved, there has to be ONE SINGLE incident of his techniques being used and caught on camera, somewhere. Right?
11:56 😳 that escalated quickly. You should make a video about some of the crazy stuff you've seen in detail. Sounds really interesting.
I used to work for Dale. AMA.
Some of his techniques are legit, some are not. Hes fundamentally a good dude. Has a bit of ego on him, but he will drop whatever he is doing to help someone.
That guy is an ego maniac that’s going to get someone killed.
Right on Ramsey.
My uncle Steven H. Kupihea had a saying, "Persistent Persuit of Progress".
Thank you for the video.
Fun story for people who believe in disarm techniques against firearms. I was 24 and working for bikers in a weed grow house. After a year the relationship went sour and when I went to get my final pay after our last crop they decided to put a scare and beating into me first. Walked in the house turned around and got sucker punched right in the mouth, guy's ring left a decent scar you can see when I shave. As I took the shot I reeled forward ready to counter, then the 9mm came out of his little paper bag. I froze instantly with my hands up, was ushered to the basement by his goon and promptly threw myself down the stairs so the enforcer wouldn't have the chance. Boss man bolted down after me and shoved the pistol into my mouth screaming and yelling. After having my face slapped around and my ribs kicked in from the 6"4 245 lbs kickboxer, boss man held the pistol to my knee and told me I would never walk straight again.
6 hours went by that felt like an eternity. Thousands of thoughts went through my head and not one of them was thinking it would be possible to disarm the weapon and escape using Steven Seagal level bullshit. However staying calm and complying was incredibly easy and got me out of their with minimal damage.
Glad you survived.
@@paulsciria8921 Honestly my life was never in danger, they were just trying to put fear in me. I think I knew that deep down throughout, even when he put it to my leg I remember thinking "there is no way he is gonna fire a gun in THIS house". Was honestly much more afraid during the ride home they gave me. That's when I truly felt unsafe and panic set in until they dropped me off.
@@Fightingat40 well either way glad your safe.
@@Fightingat40 dude this got me scared reading it. Glad you're still here
hopefully u don't associate with those ppl anymore.. sounds like that partnership went down real fast
A "contrived situation": one in which one side often holds all the cards, but presents it as balanced to the victim*. It's also called the Socratic Method. It's total effluvia, but widely accepted as a critical thought mechanism by those without the ability to think for themselves.
*Rigged games of chance and sport fall into this category. You've spoken on just that topic when discussing the "unfair" fights you audited and participated in. When the refs and promoter know who's going to win in advance (no matter what objective reffing would say) it's a contrived situation, too. I know you've been there and done that. I enjoyed the stories.
I live in Brazil and the first time I was attacked on streets I was 8-9 years old, and it was not my intense test proof training that saved me. lol
o que rolou?
@@elvispresley7529 Maluco me parou pra roubar o troco do açougue porque eu tava com uma sacola na mão. Muito ingênuo, parei pra ver o que ele queria dai ele mostrou o berro debaixo da blusa e pediu "o troco do bagulho".
EDIT: Pelo menos fui embora com a carne lol
EDIT 2: Até hoje meu irmão me zua dizendo que foi um velho de andador que me roubou.
"More like apples and robots."
- Ramsey Dewey
Love your videos, really respect you as a person. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom.
It would be amazing to see a charity boxing or mma match between UA-cam martial arts content creators :)
I mean Creator Clash seemed to be a big UA-camr boxing event. They should totally throw in a few martial arts YTber vs martial arts YTber fights next time if possible.
Bro ppl hate the truth
Keep doing what you doing Oss!
LOL nothing quite like having Ramsey tell you "I'm disappointed in you," it's like a properly applied ankle lock directly to your conscience. Sadly, D.U.S.T. doesn't know what that feels like. :P
Your statement makes no sense
For real. Treated him like a saddened father.
@@DetroitThreatManagementCenter Yes it does. Hes saying you dont have a conscience, Dale.
@@Likexner and evidently an inability to read a metaphor.
Real world vs sport fight. Gotta love it
I have A LOT of respect for Dale's security company, which very pointedly emphasizes deescalation and careful selection of personnel over violence. So, it makes me sad to see him presenting himself as an ultra-macho tough guy on the internet. Maybe he needs the cash that comes from internet notoriety? (I wrote this part before the 20ish-minute mark where you presented the same conjecture)
As a point of clarification, from what I understand, most of his security is actually UNARMED, with the goal being that NO ONE gets hurt (including the "bad guy"). So, with the emphasis on deescalation, I imagine his training is very effective at creating self confidence in his students, which can be a very strong deterrent to acts of violence when paired with sound judgement. I think he understands that the self confidence he gives to people is the most valuable part of his training (for better or worse), and that's why he's so protective of the training, and repeatedly alludes to the trust his students have in it, regardless of its actual effectiveness in a fight.
I felt the same way almost verbatim. Deescalation is another tool of self defense.
But it's disheartening to see him act a fool. He's projecting and self aggrandizing when it ain't necessary. :(
True, but, sometimes false hope can be even worse.
Dales stuff might work at a Walmart, you can practice descalation by holding the doors open so theives can carry big screens out of the store.
@@augusto34no. He has jobs all over Detroit. Where they literally have to look after people/places/shipments that are directly in the hood. With your comment I thought you would've researched what they do a little bit. Sure alot of his self defense tips are bogus and stupid. Ok? That's his issue. It's not being a phony everything like you're describing.
Dale nor his company reside in Detroit. They are safely miles away. According to several of his former employees he is a centi-millianair and only protects high dollar gated communities on the outskirts of Detroit.
He has no interest in visiting a BJJ class. A 170lb skinny blue belt will clown on him and his ego couldn’t handle it.
"Whatever the heck this is, the ramsey dewey show." 🤣🤣🤣 Love your channel brother!
Does anyone else find it odd how he is calling out Ramsey Dewey who he knows lives in China, and yet I never saw him respond to Tom Deblass' offer of $50k to grapple with his female brown belt students? Just saying
I love how Ramsey calmly answers Dale, only a mature and humble person entitled as the true skilled warrior is able to do so. Hats off to you Sensei, respect!
Imagine if he'd thanked Ramsay for his input and politely asked for tips? This would be a much different video.
Yeah
You are absolutely correct about the situations set up to work regardless. Sadly I don't think this was purposeful, but felt like actual improvement and perfection.
Would you consider telling the stories you mentioned around 12:00 one day? I know they're extremely grim, and I would NOT want to ask you to relive those experiences if they will hurt you to think about, but I find that fascinating.
This guy is awesome why have I not seen him before
I've seen a lot of Dales videos I find them for the most part ridiculous.
Just want to say love you show even when I disagree with you you always bring up interesting points and different ways of looking at situations
I trained Goofy once and he took down Donald
I trained bugs to defend himself from elmer
After what i ve seen in full metal disney, can't blame Goofy for doing this :)
Hadn't seen that video, so had to go searching for it. What a great video. Would love to see both you and Chewie go to his compound and show him how it all really works. Keep up the great work.
Dale is just mad people are figuring out hes a fraud. Sad.
Yet he’s steady growing. He was just in a NFL commercial. I know why most of you are mad and it’s sad😂
Thank you for this. :-) keep calling out the bad stuff, and teaching the good.
i don't sleep with shoes on, but there's a 45 at hand that will solve any invasion problems.
Brother its always nice to see you, the beard looks badass.
Dale needs a reality check and a long cut ass, honestly that guy is full of himself. He need to come to Trinidad and Tobago. He wanna talk about real life skills he won't last 30 secs with the street thugs much less for a local fighter.
He did some of his techniques against real resistance in video with peunguin0 who also said that his techniques suck before that so he is more legit than he seems
Post the link i want to see for myself
ua-cam.com/video/vTD0417wd0Q/v-deo.html
sure he made a video that made DUST seem more credible... but they are literally just a few gaming youtubers, they even admit themselves they dont really know anything about fighting. DUST is a conman, and you gotta know how to pick your targets... but as we always see with bullshito, they eventually get a bit too full of themselves.
Kinda but he didn’t do any of the techniques how he showed them. He actually had to do the things people pointed out when he called them idiots. Like, deflect the gun, and burst at no point did he magically step to the side and hold the gun out of battery. Basically proving himself wrong.
Some of his stuff can kinda work but not like his stupid tiktoks and he really is just a jerk. Yes if I stand still for him he can poke me or trip me. I think Ramsey makes a fair point pointing out flaws in Techniques it’s the only way someone improves, he isn’t telling people to be raped and murdered.
Also only thing that video really proves is he is stupid enough to play with a real gun.
Hermano, primero que nada saludos desde Chile, me encanta tu contenido, keep on the good work my friend!
Solo quería mencionar que lamentablemente, la violencia y delincuencia en Latinoamérica es tal como la describes, lamento que hayas pasado por esas horribles experiencias y pérdidas. Concuerdo contigo, es triste cuando gente cegada por la comodidad de su realidad, ignoran la cruda vida que otros menos afortunados tienen.
En fin, no todo es blanco y negro, no todo es 100% malo y Latinoamérica es una hermosa comunidad en su totalidad, te escribo en español porque te sentimos parte de esa comunidad mi hermano, ¡Un abrazo y mucho ánimo!
it was months ago, what took him so long, was he looking for intelligent options to increase his own survivability when fighting you?
He waited for the China lockdown to say 'come to me or let me come to you and I'll win, otherwise you're a coward'. Hilarious. Ghetto piece of shit thinks he's not being a con artist but 'hustling'.
Greetings from argentina, Rosario... You always have great insight.. Glad you remember our country fondly, even with all its troubles.. I have only been mugged twice (daylight and at night) but I dont go out as much.. There are good practicioners here but still many mcdojos, anyways keep up the good work. Love your content. stay safe and healthy you and your family.
I suspect he's calling you out because he knows you live in Shanghai and he'll never cross your path? 😂 Dale is like one of those guys who trains for a few months then goes into his local boxing gym and challenges the trainer only to get some reality and humility beat into him! also I'm sorry as a long time subscriber and commenter if I ever swore in any of my comments 🙏 I'm Australian and swearing is as natural as breathing for us!
Ramsey, me gusta mucho tu canal, pero cuando te escuché hablar de Argentina simplemente me volví loco. Tengo 39 años y viví toda mi vida entre el barrio de Ciudadela, Haedo y ahora en la Capital Federal. Las cosas están bastante mal por aquí, algunas veces peor que otras. Quién no lo vivió no sabe lo que es estar aquí. Te felicito por la respuesta que le diste a ese señor, por el tono de sus palabras creo que ni siquiera merece tanta respuesta, pero tu experiencia y calidad humana se demuestra en tus palabras. Como decimos por aqui: "A la gilada ni cabida"
Te mando un abrazo de amigo. Ojalá algún día pueda visitar China, me encantaría, y de paso visito tu gimnasio.
Saludos!!!
Bein’ fair, detroit IS a third world country.
Crappling... LMAO!!! That's gold.
It’s too easy for anyone who’s trained even a little in a serious art to pick them apart (DUST). Most of his takedowns can be disproven within your first 2 or 3 classes under a serious coach. My favorite ones are his demos on “BJJ black belts”. I’ve asked him several times to give up the names of the schools where these actors train to no avail. Bullshido at its finest.
May God protect you & bless you with wisdom ❤❤
This can't be reallll
100% real. Dale has left several Old Testament length comments on my videos where we tested out some of his techniques. This was the latest, and angriest one.
@@RamseyDewey Tom DeBlass offered him $100K if he could subdue one of his female brown belts
Also... "crappling" is now my favorite MMA style.
I saw my name and thought Ramsey wanted to fight me. I was like “hell nah you’d beat me up” lol. Nice video tho!
Your an inspiration. I want to train with you so bad, keep it up man, your doin gods work out there
About a half hour in when dale's sentences start falling apart it sounds like how drunk people type. And with all the talking about how long he's been doing this for sounds like he's desperately trying to convince himself that he's actually teaching something useful