Great video. I am learning about electric violin because I think it's such an underutilised instrument in prog and metal music, but it reminds me of the synth as I'm a keyboardist in prog metal. It reminds me of having a creative fretless instrument that can hang with the guitars but also provide unique textures and effects that only a fretless instrument can provide. It's a shame you see people disrespect the electric violin and not exploring all these possibilities still left at the table and for me personally, I want to explore that and find an interesting space to capture creativity.
Hi there. I cannot agree more with both of you. Both regarding classical violinist's attitude towards non-classical, as well as sharing all your experiences with acoustic/electric violins, pickups, mics etc. Great video, thanks. I have one experience I would like to share: Putting the clamp for the pickup on the acoustic violin on the upper left part of the violin body (beside the fingerboard) instead of in the lower part (close to the chin rest) seems to dampen/affect the violin significantly less. Same result on all acoustic violins I have tried. The drawback is that having a cord attached to the upper position gets more in the way when playing. But I am using a wireless transmitter (BOSS WL20) , so it doesn't matter for me.
I like Twoset as well. In fact, it was the combination of their acoustic violin vs electric violin video and all the electric violin shop videos that led me to get an electric violin for the first time! (NS design wav5). Of course, that led me to go down the rabbit hole of equipment bloat (Yamaha thr5a amp, zoom a1x, irig hd2, amplitube, blueboard, incredibow, etc)! Loving it (and loving everything Matt Bell puts out!)
12:30 I agree some classical players I know remove all but the E or all the fine tuners to reduce the weight and amplify the vibrations and I have always thought the same it is so small of a difference I prefer the utility of the fine tuners for such a small trade off - the same I would say with anything else like a shoulder rest or pickup - balance of utility over maximizing the vibration of the instrument
It depends on a lot of things but I mic an Orange Bass Combo amp, with the gain up, and run it through a Boss multi effects pedal with a tad of reverb and delay. I am also thinking about getting a microphone type of pickup for one of my acoustic violins for a more natural sound for certain types of songs.
Around 16:40 I wanted a ❤ option instead of a 👍. "Promoting music, and making people interested in practicing and playing it....We're wanting to bring people in, not keep people out." And, yes, the 20th Century DID happen! 😆
I just found this channel. Great improvised discussion ❤😃! 15:30 About TwoSet and electric violins: yep, I saw the same video(s) and had about the same reaction as you two. IMO, a solid body electric violin is definitely HARDER to play in terms of getting a good tone and projection, and you don't get natural resonances at G, D etc that help you keep your intonation spot on. I think you can hear your "raw" playing better, meaning you can learn a lot, and then you can take your new abilities back to your acoustic if you want to. In short, the solid body electric is generally not easier to play than an acoustic, and overall it's best to have both. IMO 😃.
18:07 I agree with the piano vs organ = acoustic vs electric violin analogy. (I play all four). I also agree that 40 hours/day stoic approach is not the way to go. Look after your body AND make great music! 💯
15 minutes from airport... I'm ready to go 😂😂😂 Really, THANKS A LOT I am from another country, so I needed to google it in English! You are cool, thanks, really ✨🔥🔥🔥
Any advice on this? I play an acoustic violin with a Fishman pickup. The location of my jack input mounted on the fiddle is in the way of my shoulder rest feet and there isn't really another location other than to mount unto the bracket and my shoulder rest will tend to pop off frequently. It's such a frustrating situation especially after trying to relocate my mounting brackets or even trying other shoulder rests.
I recommend calling electric violin shop during business hours and speaking w a human. Their phone number is on their website. They may have suggestions.
I know Christian has a sv250. But he doesn't have the external box thing. I have a new one of these upstairs and am considering selling rather than using quite simply because I can pick up my yev , play for a couple of minutes in the day, and I don't have to strap any boxes to myself. I'd happily pay something reasonable for a mod that gets me wireless, preferably with a dongle ( I have a g10 and a g50 that I don't use) without silly boxes. Come on EVS give us a modestly priced mod so we can have what Lindsey and Christian have. Please!
@@ChristianHowesViolin Happy days! Can they copy yours? :) If they're not in for it, maybe I could get a few made for like-minded folk... Cheers (I'll give them a call)
As a lefty, I have found the classical purists to often be exclusive over inclusive. I have been laughed at for wanting a lefty fiddle and even told there is no such thing as a lefty fiddle. Luckily, I have found a decent lefty fiddle but lefty solid electric fiddles are as rare as hens teeth. I note in the vid not a lefty in sight in a whole wall full. I believe it is a mass issue, like lefty guitars, if they make them, people will come and buy. I think if the rightist attitude in strings was diluted, more leftys would have access to strings. Music should be inclusive and encourage everyone in every way they can. Manufacturers, get making lefty fiddles, yes it will be a slow burn, but in time there will be a market and if you get in there first, you could change the world for a marginalised minority and help stop the forcing of changing hands. ;)) Play on!
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Let’s not forget about the attitude of entitlement that informs the very idea that classical music automatically deserves respect. 🤯 If we as musicians worked from the ground up to gain the respect of our audience we would see that performance is an art and it shouldn’t be taken for granted that the music you play gives you some sort of automatic “in” by itself. Be interesting, be engaging, be open and work hard no matter what the genre.
Hmm... Clause, that what to choose, Only depend, what purpose to want use must not be only reason to choose classical over electric.. (my opinion).. You know, tone has color, higher harmonics.. Also seems to, that for people these vibrations (frequencies) has curing effect on human body.. If you let "run" this sound, these vibrations via electronics (semiconductors, integrated circuit), they works DISCREETLY, so called analog signal is cutted to very small pieces, and then collected/integrated.. Because these pieces are so small, hardly to hear difference, But, anyway, some part is missing.. Healthy effect of personally listening natural sound/vibration disappear... It is like drink destilled water, instead of water from spring... It is drinkable, but taste not good.. Missing minerals, cations, etc. What give water taste.. Even listening digitalized music remove this curing effect.. So play yourself natural instruments.. Wooden flute, brass, violin, ukulele, or listen how somebody is playing in front of you.. No amplifying, or electronics.. I use silent brass to practice at night, but this usage should be a friction of time... Think about it, read about effect of music on brain, effect of vibration on human body, etc.. Live long and prosper. 😉 .
Ive gave up on classical people and the industry myself, their outlook on everything is basically corrupted by money . School districts in the US are usually only set for Orchestra if they are well off or rich ( I was from a poorer school district) lower Middle class or poor kids can just go pound sand ! Ive played electric bass fretted and fretless for 40 years and always wanted to play cello but by their own standards and BS a intermediate cello costs more the my RIC 4003 ,Sandberg, Spector and Fender basses . All of those are. professional instruments.
'Twoset' would fail at any improv and actually fail miserably at European classical music for the majority of its history, where the European performers were expected to improvise and not just learn pieces robotically due to having zero creativity.
Its a previledge to know you two Sir Chris and Sir Matt, am so excited i know you two. Thanks so much for this info biut Sir Chris I have lots of questions i want to ask. can i get your email please
Great video. I am learning about electric violin because I think it's such an underutilised instrument in prog and metal music, but it reminds me of the synth as I'm a keyboardist in prog metal. It reminds me of having a creative fretless instrument that can hang with the guitars but also provide unique textures and effects that only a fretless instrument can provide. It's a shame you see people disrespect the electric violin and not exploring all these possibilities still left at the table and for me personally, I want to explore that and find an interesting space to capture creativity.
Hi there. I cannot agree more with both of you. Both regarding classical violinist's attitude towards non-classical, as well as sharing all your experiences with acoustic/electric violins, pickups, mics etc. Great video, thanks.
I have one experience I would like to share: Putting the clamp for the pickup on the acoustic violin on the upper left part of the violin body (beside the fingerboard) instead of in the lower part (close to the chin rest) seems to dampen/affect the violin significantly less. Same result on all acoustic violins I have tried. The drawback is that having a cord attached to the upper position gets more in the way when playing. But I am using a wireless transmitter (BOSS WL20) , so it doesn't matter for me.
I like Twoset as well. In fact, it was the combination of their acoustic violin vs electric violin video and all the electric violin shop videos that led me to get an electric violin for the first time! (NS design wav5). Of course, that led me to go down the rabbit hole of equipment bloat (Yamaha thr5a amp, zoom a1x, irig hd2, amplitube, blueboard, incredibow, etc)! Loving it (and loving everything Matt Bell puts out!)
12:30 I agree some classical players I know remove all but the E or all the fine tuners to reduce the weight and amplify the vibrations and I have always thought the same it is so small of a difference I prefer the utility of the fine tuners for such a small trade off - the same I would say with anything else like a shoulder rest or pickup - balance of utility over maximizing the vibration of the instrument
It depends on a lot of things but I mic an Orange Bass Combo amp, with the gain up, and run it through a Boss multi effects pedal with a tad of reverb and delay. I am also thinking about getting a microphone type of pickup for one of my acoustic violins for a more natural sound for certain types of songs.
Awesome! Just what I needed, thank you, you rock!
Glad it helped! :)
Around 16:40 I wanted a ❤ option instead of a 👍. "Promoting music, and making people interested in practicing and playing it....We're wanting to bring people in, not keep people out." And, yes, the 20th Century DID happen! 😆
Ha thanks Susan!
Good stuff guys!
Thank you!
I just found this channel. Great improvised discussion ❤😃!
15:30 About TwoSet and electric violins: yep, I saw the same video(s) and had about the same reaction as you two. IMO, a solid body electric violin is definitely HARDER to play in terms of getting a good tone and projection, and you don't get natural resonances at G, D etc that help you keep your intonation spot on. I think you can hear your "raw" playing better, meaning you can learn a lot, and then you can take your new abilities back to your acoustic if you want to.
In short, the solid body electric is generally not easier to play than an acoustic, and overall it's best to have both. IMO 😃.
18:07 I agree with the piano vs organ = acoustic vs electric violin analogy. (I play all four).
I also agree that 40 hours/day stoic approach is not the way to go. Look after your body AND make great music! 💯
Thanks John!
Great interview folks!!🇨🇦
Thanks!
I love how Christian always has a loop cued up❤️😂
Great video! Really helpful information. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Jenny!
Very Cool! I would bet money that when electric guitars first came out, the same argument was made.
Yep that’s what I’d imagine as well thanks michael
Fun fact: electric violins predate electric guitars.
@@ElectricViolinShop Wow! That's crazy, i had no clue! Very interesting
For the first time I see both of you in one video
:)
I wish you were in the UK!! 😊
I'm only a zoom call away!:)
Very good video! So, what pickup will you recommend for an acoustic cello? and is there a possible combination for pickup and mike? Thanks a lot!!
I recommend calling electric violin shop to get their answer to this question. They are at www.electricviolinshop.com they will help you!
Classical music is ossified and stripped of its spirit and joy. Listen to Gershwin play Gershwin!
15 minutes from airport... I'm ready to go 😂😂😂 Really, THANKS A LOT
I am from another country, so I needed to google it in English! You are cool, thanks, really ✨🔥🔥🔥
You're welcome 😊
Any advice on this? I play an acoustic violin with a Fishman pickup. The location of my jack input mounted on the fiddle is in the way of my shoulder rest feet and there isn't really another location other than to mount unto the bracket and my shoulder rest will tend to pop off frequently. It's such a frustrating situation especially after trying to relocate my mounting brackets or even trying other shoulder rests.
I recommend calling electric violin shop during business hours and speaking w a human. Their phone number is on their website. They may have suggestions.
Great video, thank you! (The expression is, "Cut your teeth," like a baby getting their first teeth).
Ah yes thank you Nicole!
I know Christian has a sv250. But he doesn't have the external box thing. I have a new one of these upstairs and am considering selling rather than using quite simply because I can pick up my yev , play for a couple of minutes in the day, and I don't have to strap any boxes to myself. I'd happily pay something reasonable for a mod that gets me wireless, preferably with a dongle ( I have a g10 and a g50 that I don't use) without silly boxes. Come on EVS give us a modestly priced mod so we can have what Lindsey and Christian have. Please!
I hear you! You can always call EVS and speak w a human
@@ChristianHowesViolin Happy days! Can they copy yours? :) If they're not in for it, maybe I could get a few made for like-minded folk...
Cheers (I'll give them a call)
nice to meet you my name is hakeem need help with my violins not eclectic try use my blow does not work
Maybe they should try to be intersting! HÁAAA YES I LOVED IT
Haha yeah that was an awesome response!:)
As a lefty, I have found the classical purists to often be exclusive over inclusive. I have been laughed at for wanting a lefty fiddle and even told there is no such thing as a lefty fiddle.
Luckily, I have found a decent lefty fiddle but lefty solid electric fiddles are as rare as hens teeth. I note in the vid not a lefty in sight in a whole wall full.
I believe it is a mass issue, like lefty guitars, if they make them, people will come and buy. I think if the rightist attitude in strings was diluted, more leftys would have access to strings. Music should be inclusive and encourage everyone in every way they can.
Manufacturers, get making lefty fiddles, yes it will be a slow burn, but in time there will be a market and if you get in there first, you could change the world for a marginalised minority and help stop the forcing of changing hands. ;))
Play on!
right on Kevin! Thank you. for transcriptions, lessons & proven strategies to grow your musicianship subscribe to my free newsletter here: swiy.co/Christian_Sub
Let’s not forget about the attitude of entitlement that informs the very idea that classical music automatically deserves respect. 🤯 If we as musicians worked from the ground up to gain the respect of our audience we would see that performance is an art and it shouldn’t be taken for granted that the music you play gives you some sort of automatic “in” by itself. Be interesting, be engaging, be open and work hard no matter what the genre.
Amen to that Leslie!:)
It really does depend….and this is why my equipment keeps increasing!!!🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Haha I know what you mean!:)
An amp or a PA. Ok, what’s the difference?
Many differences … amp is more portable for one
Hmm... Clause, that what to choose, Only depend, what purpose to want use must not be only reason to choose classical over electric.. (my opinion).. You know, tone has color, higher harmonics.. Also seems to, that for people these vibrations (frequencies) has curing effect on human body.. If you let "run" this sound, these vibrations via electronics (semiconductors, integrated circuit), they works DISCREETLY, so called analog signal is cutted to very small pieces, and then collected/integrated.. Because these pieces are so small, hardly to hear difference, But, anyway, some part is missing.. Healthy effect of personally listening natural sound/vibration disappear... It is like drink destilled water, instead of water from spring... It is drinkable, but taste not good.. Missing minerals, cations, etc. What give water taste.. Even listening digitalized music remove this curing effect.. So play yourself natural instruments.. Wooden flute, brass, violin, ukulele, or listen how somebody is playing in front of you.. No amplifying, or electronics.. I use silent brass to practice at night, but this usage should be a friction of time... Think about it, read about effect of music on brain, effect of vibration on human body, etc.. Live long and prosper. 😉
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Ive gave up on classical people and the industry myself, their outlook on everything is basically corrupted by money . School districts in the US are usually only set for Orchestra if they are well off or rich ( I was from a poorer school district) lower
Middle class or poor kids can just go pound sand ! Ive played electric bass fretted and fretless for 40 years and always wanted to play cello but by their own standards and BS a intermediate cello costs more the my RIC 4003 ,Sandberg, Spector and Fender basses . All of those are. professional instruments.
I hear you
'Twoset' would fail at any improv and actually fail miserably at European classical music for the majority of its history, where the European performers were expected to improvise and not just learn pieces robotically due to having zero creativity.
Its a previledge to know you two Sir Chris and Sir Matt, am so excited i know you two. Thanks so much for this info biut Sir Chris I have lots of questions i want to ask. can i get your email please
My email is chris@christianhowes.com and I have many resources at christianhowes.com