Yeah, THIS is the sweetest I've ever seen Hatie Katie be to Steffy! (Even though they're friends in real life) It took me awhile but Hatie Katie grew on me. I love 💕 that she was there for Steffy....that was sweet and mighty big of her, considering she's always despised Steffy. Kudos to Hatie Katie! 👏👏👏👍👍👍
@@SuperShepard1 yeah, like 100 yrs ago!!! My God! Why is THAT still being brought up? Hatie Katie is not perfect & she's not even w$ Bill anymore. 🤷♀️
Hope probably thought Liam would be overwhelmed with joy to see Hope walk through the door. She probably expected him to embrace her and ask for her hand in marriage. Since that didn't happen, she had to lie to Liam by telling him she can love him more than steffy could Hope said it like it was fje truth, but her actions proved otherwise She just once again proved how completely selfish she is
" Things are working out exactly as they were intended." The loss of a child, all part of destiny's plan for you and Liam? Wow! Hope can be a cold, self serving piece of work, her immaturity and lack of life experience showing through to say the least!
At least Hope was like 20 years old. A 33 year old Steffy bought a baby like 2 days after Hope lost her baby and named Hope's husband the father of her child. Taylor also thought that it's destiny that Beth died and she hoped that Hope will divorce Liam so she could be with Thomas and replace Caroline for Douglas. And Taylor was in her late 50's at the time... I bet you didn't think they were being cruel and immature. These double standards are hilarious... I get it. Hope is Brookes child so she has to be the villain in your eyes, but you guys fail to see that Steffy is just a younger Brooke.
@@ankina86 Well, I don't think I suggested they were any better. I'm a fan of the show but don't really have strong favourites and on balance at this point, I'd say they are all crazy! Though Steffy sleeping with Bill while married to Liam, and Taylor shooting Bill in revenge, probably takes the cake! I was merely referring to Hope's behaviour in this scene, especially her insensitivity to Liam who just lost a child. I've always had a soft spot for LOPE actually (when Kim Matula was Hope that is), but Hope comes across as a real self-serving. ice-maiden here, bordering on psychopathic. Even more unbecoming since she always pretends to be 'the good one', so virtuous and moral.
I really hate Rick. He did all he could to get Caroline and then he just dumps her for Maya? Why did they even bother? And they trashed Caroline’s character to make Maya look like the good girl. Caroline wasn’t a brat when she first came on the show.
I've always wondered if they did it for that reason or they always envisioned Caroline to be like that and that was the first time we didn't see Caroline get her own way over something. Must admit the first time she did it over working at Dayzees I could sympathise though she didn't articulate it the best but it just showed an ongoing petulance.
Hope 🙄 its like your not even listening to what Liam is saying. This wasn’t his choice he wasn’t ready to end his marriage, but all you can hear is that this is your opening. Seriously? You saw Steffy she was not in her right mind and neither is Liam. Hope, you’re making the same mistake you made last time picking up with Liam as if his time with Steffy meant nothing. You got burned before and as much you want to call it manipulation none of that is true. Liam will always be in love with two women, and you can’t start a relationship when you just got out of one. You need time and space to fully heal.
If Steffy and Hope would both hear what Liam said like few days before that to his dad then I bet Hope would be more pleased because it went more or less like this " Steffy is great, but I still think about leaving her because of Hope. I would marry Hope in Malibu that day". Check the transcripts.
"I can't help, but feel things are working out exactly as they were intended..." 🙄🙄🙄 That was such an ass remark about a situation that ended with someone who losing a child resulting in them leaving their husband. "Yeah, it's Steffy's fault/choice" blah blah Even then, it's an asinine thing to say to the man you love that is dealing with his whole world crumbling under their feet. Had Steffy said that, everyone would have cow!!!
Hopeless can see Liam is devastated, she still doesn't care.... she's throwing herself at him! Yuk! Give him time.... she's so selfish and entitled! 🙄🙄🙄
Hope don't care about Liam's children with Steffy. It evident here and in 2018. She took glee in death of his child, and Liam thought she is so good. LOL If he is the judge of what's good or bad then his thoughts don't mean anything. Why does Katie care? Isn't she Team Hope? lol I guess she knows the feeling because she felt the same thing about Brooke, and like her mother Hope is taking full advantage. SMDH
I Wish the show would run an acid splash storyline for Hope's face . A whole year of bandages and actually having to act is necessary for the hope character
Bc she's a selfish, insensitive, snobby, entitled, spoiled lil brat! She thinks she's so much better than Steffy.... she's NOT! She's a basket case and too exhausting.
Caroline, you served your purpose getting Rick the executive position. He doesn't need you anymore. Hope, there's something macabre about you thinking a dead baby is your road to happiness.
Liam say she is moving to Paris and Hope said"I am so sorry".That is hilarious!! What she is really saying is,he has to be with me now.He has no choice.
Hope is such a narcissist. .. telling liam things worked out "exactly how they were intended" She's been telling katie "i can give him babies" and "i can be his wife" but she tells liam it's not about that, it's about how she loves him more than steffy does. Hooe is so manipulative. .. i really wish liam would have seen the real Hope and called her out on it. Hope's so called "high moral code" ... was that by Brooke's standards?
Liam keeps saying "We were married..." Like, "WERE", past tense. Why is it that they always act like a ring coming off is the end of the marriage? Katie pulled off HER ring, so Bill hopped in bed with Brooke cuz "the marriage is over". Liam speaking in past tense here just cuz a ring came off. Um, no. No divorce papers have been drawn up yet let alone signed. Just like current day, Hope shows Thomas her empty wedding ring finger & they proceed to have sex for like 3 days straight like she was officially divorced...It's just silly cuz a ring coming off is NOT an official, legal end to justify hopping into someone's bed or jumping onto the next opportunity that crosses your path!
I really wish he would have opened his eyes about hope and saw her for the self-centered, entitled, snob she is and how manipulative she is, called her out on it, and told her to leave. She didn't even give Liam 5 minutes before she ran right over to the cliff house and started pushed for a reunion again.
They wrote Steffy to act like shes in her 40s and out of time to have a baby..or at least explore other options😐 (I know this is written for her to leave)
@@MsGhost79 Hope and Liam both did not know what was really going on. They both should have known that this was totally out of character and a lot more needed to be explained. What Katie went thru was a perfect example.
hope was another IVY ready to pick up the pieces poor Steffy loved Liam so very much she let him go but Liam only got with Hope when Steffy was no longer an option This is what the Hope fans cant seem to get
... pretty sure hope was there well before ivy even appeared 😅😂 there was hope even before steffy when there was an Oliver triangle and then an amber baby....
Wow Hope couldn't wait 5 minutes after Steffy left to see Liam. Ironic that even with Steffy gone, they still couldn't make their relationship work. Looking forward to the next obstacle.
What is this storyline even about?! Why can't Liam know that Steffy is not able to conceive anymore?! This just makes no sense. Even if he'd know, she could still have made the decision to leave him and go to Paris. But Liam, please, stop whining for once and behave like someone with self-respect!
Not every couple has children. This doesn't make it or break it but I do agree with Katie that you should talk to Liam and be honest and not run away from your issues
Rick sweet? 🤣🤣🤣Not even close! he used Caroline to get his position at Forrester. And now that he has it he can move on to the next best thing. Betcha Caroline is regretting trusting Rick more than Thomas.
So Liam has talked about Hope in front of Steffy so now he is talking about Steffy in front of Hope.This man is good.He can do this because he knows he have both of these women wrapped around his finger.Hope is waiting for him to say he wants her more but he really doesn't know who he wants.
Caroline next time look good before you leap and remember the game you play always played back on you Katie stop it you always want you niece with Liam so stop pretending Hope easy comes easy go you couldn't even wait till steffy left the country before you run to Liam
Ronn moss said the show was getting political and Rick falling for Maya so quickly after working so hard to get Caroline is prime example, the show pushing "SJW" making Rick's character fall for a "black" woman and later, turning Maya's character into a "Transgender" and Rick marries her. So i dont feel anything for this couple.
Fear and defeated got u, that y u r running. away, don't come back for Liam, u lost your cased, she never know that it was Hope that told Liam to Marry her before the baby is born. Liam didn't want to marry Steffy.Steffy giving Liam away , she never had him.
People that worship Taylor and Steffy complaining that Hope thought that Steffy's miscarriage means that she and Liam could be together again... How ironic. Steffy bought a child that would be Beth's age like 2 days after the funeral and named Liam the father and it was not only a miscarriage. Hope actually saw a dead baby and believed it was hers which is 10 times more traumatizing. Taylor immediately saw an opportunity for Thomas and Hope to be together so Steffy could have Liam and Douglas could have a mother... Woman in her 20's doesn't get a pass, but Steffy in her 30's and Taylor in her 50's did get a pass for their fantasy built on Beth's grave. These double standards are hilarious.
steffy didn't name him as the father of 'phoebe' Liam just claimed it. she was the sole parent on any and all adoption papers. she was looking for a child to adopt while hope was still pregnant, so when the opportunity arose she took it.
Katie even tried to talk steffy in to staying even if it meant her own niece stayed heartbroken. Go katie.
Can you imagine how furious Brooke and Hope would be if they knew that? 😅
Katie was a good friend to Steffy here. She earned my respect here. She was able to put aside their past in this moment.
Look at Katie acting like a big sister, to Steffy.
Well at the time she was her "step" mother in law
Yeah but she really wants Hope to be with Liam
Yeah, THIS is the sweetest I've ever seen Hatie Katie be to Steffy! (Even though they're friends in real life) It took me awhile but Hatie Katie grew on me. I love 💕 that she was there for Steffy....that was sweet and mighty big of her, considering she's always despised Steffy. Kudos to Hatie Katie! 👏👏👏👍👍👍
@@JefferyWaybrightSreffy tried to take Katie's husband and get him to leave her!
@@SuperShepard1 yeah, like 100 yrs ago!!! My God! Why is THAT still being brought up? Hatie Katie is not perfect & she's not even w$ Bill anymore. 🤷♀️
Steffy hasn’t even left yet and hope is a terrible person
First time I see a Logan fight for steffy and Liam...lol
katie can see her own situation when she had postpartum depression 😓💔
This is the first time I see another person wanting steffy and Liam to be together especially a logan
Hope walks in sees liam devastated after losing steffy and still thinks he never loved steffy
Hope probably thought Liam would be overwhelmed with joy to see Hope walk through the door. She probably expected him to embrace her and ask for her hand in marriage. Since that didn't happen, she had to lie to Liam by telling him she can love him more than steffy could
Hope said it like it was fje truth, but her actions proved otherwise
She just once again proved how completely selfish she is
And Hope still wants to believe Liam only married Steffy because of the baby!🙄
Hope is a moron and sne couldn't wait 2 minutes before pouncing on Liam when steffy lost her baby and after steffy left.
I love that necklace that Katie has on in this episode.
" Things are working out exactly as they were intended." The loss of a child, all part of destiny's plan for you and Liam? Wow! Hope can be a cold, self serving piece of work, her immaturity and lack of life experience showing through to say the least!
At least Hope was like 20 years old. A 33 year old Steffy bought a baby like 2 days after Hope lost her baby and named Hope's husband the father of her child. Taylor also thought that it's destiny that Beth died and she hoped that Hope will divorce Liam so she could be with Thomas and replace Caroline for Douglas. And Taylor was in her late 50's at the time... I bet you didn't think they were being cruel and immature. These double standards are hilarious... I get it. Hope is Brookes child so she has to be the villain in your eyes, but you guys fail to see that Steffy is just a younger Brooke.
@@ankina86 Well, I don't think I suggested they were any better. I'm a fan of the show but don't really have strong favourites and on balance at this point, I'd say they are all crazy! Though Steffy sleeping with Bill while married to Liam, and Taylor shooting Bill in revenge, probably takes the cake! I was merely referring to Hope's behaviour in this scene, especially her insensitivity to Liam who just lost a child. I've always had a soft spot for LOPE actually (when Kim Matula was Hope that is), but Hope comes across as a real self-serving. ice-maiden here, bordering on psychopathic. Even more unbecoming since she always pretends to be 'the good one', so virtuous and moral.
It is pretty insensitive. This Hope is really naive about things. The new Hope, after going what she's gone through, would never say that.
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@@ankina86 you 💕 sort of a bunt cake
I really hate Rick. He did all he could to get Caroline and then he just dumps her for Maya? Why did they even bother? And they trashed Caroline’s character to make Maya look like the good girl. Caroline wasn’t a brat when she first came on the show.
Julie Thaxton Rick has always been a egotistical prik.
I've always wondered if they did it for that reason or they always envisioned Caroline to be like that and that was the first time we didn't see Caroline get her own way over something. Must admit the first time she did it over working at Dayzees I could sympathise though she didn't articulate it the best but it just showed an ongoing petulance.
I couldn't stand this Maya character. Her and Rick characters were such a joke as a couple. Horrid couple 🤢!
Basically Liam just said Steffy was wrong. She makes him happy not Hope!
If Hope can't see Liam's true love and happiness is with Steffy than she wins the award for delusional!
I don't understand how a woman can sit and listen to a man go on and on about how he can make things work with another woman
Steffy did it quite a lot, too. These girls just take it.
Hope 🙄 its like your not even listening to what Liam is saying. This wasn’t his choice he wasn’t ready to end his marriage, but all you can hear is that this is your opening. Seriously? You saw Steffy she was not in her right mind and neither is Liam.
Hope, you’re making the same mistake you made last time picking up with Liam as if his time with Steffy meant nothing. You got burned before and as much you want to call it manipulation none of that is true. Liam will always be in love with two women, and you can’t start a relationship when you just got out of one. You need time and space to fully heal.
If Steffy and Hope would both hear what Liam said like few days before that to his dad then I bet Hope would be more pleased because it went more or less like this " Steffy is great, but I still think about leaving her because of Hope. I would marry Hope in Malibu that day". Check the transcripts.
"I can't help, but feel things are working out exactly as they were intended..." 🙄🙄🙄 That was such an ass remark about a situation that ended with someone who losing a child resulting in them leaving their husband. "Yeah, it's Steffy's fault/choice" blah blah Even then, it's an asinine thing to say to the man you love that is dealing with his whole world crumbling under their feet. Had Steffy said that, everyone would have cow!!!
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Oh the hope fans would have crucified Steffy for saying or doing half the stuff hope gets away with.
Well at least she didn't buy a baby for 250k and name Steffy's husband the father of the child few days after Steffy lost her pregnancy.
@@nataliearreola6361 it's the other way around honey. I can't imagine what you guys would do if Hope would do 1/3 of what Steffy has done.
@@ankina86 🙄
now you see Hope how much he loves Steffy and always will want her
Hopeless can see Liam is devastated, she still doesn't care.... she's throwing herself at him! Yuk! Give him time.... she's so selfish and entitled! 🙄🙄🙄
Hope wouldn’t even give Liam a day to think or nothing gosh I hate hope bleh
Karma is Beth being adopted
@Sara Zimmermann so you know what hope said and did when steffy lost her baby?
Karma.
@@nataliearreola6361 hope say many thinks she was selfish there but when she thinks about liam she is sick the same steffy ,
Hope don't care about Liam's children with Steffy. It evident here and in 2018. She took glee in death of his child, and Liam thought she is so good. LOL If he is the judge of what's good or bad then his thoughts don't mean anything. Why does Katie care? Isn't she Team Hope? lol I guess she knows the feeling because she felt the same thing about Brooke, and like her mother Hope is taking full advantage. SMDH
Oh the good old days.
Wow, hope couldn't even give him one day 🙄
Steffy asked her to go to Liam!
I Wish the show would run an acid splash storyline for Hope's face . A whole year of bandages and actually having to act is necessary for the hope character
As long as she doesn't lie to him and trap Steffy in a gondola it's fair game.
@@nataliearreola6361 😂😂😂😂🤣❤️
Bc she's a selfish, insensitive, snobby, entitled, spoiled lil brat! She thinks she's so much better than Steffy.... she's NOT! She's a basket case and too exhausting.
Little desperate Hope.
Hope is such a c word here
Caroline, you served your purpose getting Rick the executive position. He doesn't need you anymore.
Hope, there's something macabre about you thinking a dead baby is your road to happiness.
Liam say she is moving to Paris and Hope said"I am so sorry".That is hilarious!! What she is really saying is,he has to be with me now.He has no choice.
😅😅 good point!
Hope is such a narcissist. .. telling liam things worked out "exactly how they were intended"
She's been telling katie "i can give him babies" and "i can be his wife" but she tells liam it's not about that, it's about how she loves him more than steffy does.
Hooe is so manipulative. .. i really wish liam would have seen the real Hope and called her out on it.
Hope's so called "high moral code" ... was that by Brooke's standards?
The nerve of Hope. Yes you should have called, you are despicable ! Liam is grieving leave him alone.
Liam keeps saying "We were married..." Like, "WERE", past tense. Why is it that they always act like a ring coming off is the end of the marriage? Katie pulled off HER ring, so Bill hopped in bed with Brooke cuz "the marriage is over". Liam speaking in past tense here just cuz a ring came off. Um, no. No divorce papers have been drawn up yet let alone signed. Just like current day, Hope shows Thomas her empty wedding ring finger & they proceed to have sex for like 3 days straight like she was officially divorced...It's just silly cuz a ring coming off is NOT an official, legal end to justify hopping into someone's bed or jumping onto the next opportunity that crosses your path!
the only reason he is looking at you Hope is because its what Steffy wants
liam actually looks disgusted by Hopes comments
as he should, that hopeless is disgusting
I really wish he would have opened his eyes about hope and saw her for the self-centered, entitled, snob she is and how manipulative she is, called her out on it, and told her to leave.
She didn't even give Liam 5 minutes before she ran right over to the cliff house and started pushed for a reunion again.
They wrote Steffy to act like shes in her 40s and out of time to have a baby..or at least explore other options😐 (I know this is written for her to leave)
As much of a brat Caroline became, she didn't deserve being treated like this.
In a way...but she kept dodging Rick everytime he tried ending things...
Well didnt take hope long
Shes a Logan...
You blame her, but what about him. He should have said no but he didn't. Hope is not fully aware of the situation here. Because of Lame
@@MsGhost79 true liam is terrible but for some reason these girls are fighting over him lol
@@MsGhost79 Hope and Liam both did not know what was really going on. They both should have known that this was totally out of character and a lot more needed to be explained. What Katie went thru was a perfect example.
Kind of like when Steffy married Liam the day after Hope gave him his ring back!
talk about a heartless
He love her, notice he wanted to kiss her.😊
hope was another IVY ready to pick up the pieces poor Steffy loved Liam so very much she let him go but Liam only got with Hope when Steffy was no longer an option This is what the Hope fans cant seem to get
What about steffy how many times she and liam hook up because he and hope break up.. y'all really buggin
... pretty sure hope was there well before ivy even appeared 😅😂 there was hope even before steffy when there was an Oliver triangle and then an amber baby....
Hope is a disgusting selfish monster here
Maya is such a boyfriend stealer ....
B&B retro Hope is just like her mom!
Hope didn't waste any time running to Liam and Steffy's house to jump on Liam. She probably expected him to propose to her right away.
Wow Hope couldn't wait 5 minutes after Steffy left to see Liam. Ironic that even with Steffy gone, they still couldn't make their relationship work. Looking forward to the next obstacle.
What is this storyline even about?! Why can't Liam know that Steffy is not able to conceive anymore?! This just makes no sense.
Even if he'd know, she could still have made the decision to leave him and go to Paris.
But Liam, please, stop whining for once and behave like someone with self-respect!
HOPE YOU ARE ME ME ME
He just lost his baby and his wife like stop being so desperate and let the man heal for a second
Ketie you a big hypocrisy since when did you care about my sweet I know my favourite steffy will come back stronger ❤
Not every couple has children. This doesn't make it or break it but I do agree with Katie that you should talk to Liam and be honest and not run away from your issues
Rick sweet? 🤣🤣🤣Not even close! he used Caroline to get his position at Forrester. And now that he has it he can move on to the next best thing. Betcha Caroline is regretting trusting Rick more than Thomas.
So Liam has talked about Hope in front of Steffy so now he is talking about Steffy in front of Hope.This man is good.He can do this because he knows he have both of these women wrapped around his finger.Hope is waiting for him to say he wants her more but he really doesn't know who he wants.
And along comes Hope......EWW!!!!
Katie, was one that mentioned about thar baby y Liam marry her, that's what scare Steffy away. Steffy knows second to Hope.
Caroline next time look good before you leap and remember the game you play always played back on you Katie stop it you always want you niece with Liam so stop pretending Hope easy comes easy go you couldn't even wait till steffy left the country before you run to Liam
Liam makes me sick
MsGhost79 and yet you keep watching
Maya makes me sick
Steffy! On plane again crying about her lost.
Hope has static in her hair LMAO
they like hair big in America 😂😂😂
Liam did not set off to marry you of him own free will ..Brook manipulated the whole thing.
Lol hopeless your desperate
So very desperate
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Ronn moss said the show was getting political and Rick falling for Maya so quickly after working so hard to get Caroline is prime example, the show pushing "SJW" making Rick's character fall for a "black" woman and later, turning Maya's character into a "Transgender" and Rick marries her. So i dont feel anything for this couple.
But it is like Maya was not even a likable character...so horrid! We could have done without this character on B&B... 😆
It WAS ALL A TRAP OOOH NOW STEFFY WANTS TO RUN AWAY
How can it be a trap when she was away and found out she's pregnant hmmm
Trap? She was living with liam and in a relationship with him when she got pregnant
God shes desparate
Maya🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Fear and defeated got u, that y u r running. away, don't come back for Liam, u lost your cased, she never know that it was Hope that told Liam to Marry her before the baby is born. Liam didn't want to marry Steffy.Steffy giving Liam away , she never had him.
Let steffy go please good 🛑 riddance to steffy 💞 bye bye
Omg can Katie ❤️💜a
Taylor just mind their own business for once it's getting old and vv borrrring añnoying
People that worship Taylor and Steffy complaining that Hope thought that Steffy's miscarriage means that she and Liam could be together again... How ironic. Steffy bought a child that would be Beth's age like 2 days after the funeral and named Liam the father and it was not only a miscarriage. Hope actually saw a dead baby and believed it was hers which is 10 times more traumatizing. Taylor immediately saw an opportunity for Thomas and Hope to be together so Steffy could have Liam and Douglas could have a mother... Woman in her 20's doesn't get a pass, but Steffy in her 30's and Taylor in her 50's did get a pass for their fantasy built on Beth's grave. These double standards are hilarious.
steffy didn't name him as the father of 'phoebe' Liam just claimed it. she was the sole parent on any and all adoption papers. she was looking for a child to adopt while hope was still pregnant, so when the opportunity arose she took it.
Hope throws herself at him not comfort takes advantage...