birdie birb 🐦 :3 btw, some people are asking for sparkle to be at 168 spd + eagle. I get your point but my showcases don't go into that sort of high investment, the highest spd support i've ever used on my showcases is a 171 spd tingyun with 4 pc muskeeter spd bonus (and she has 10 more base spd compared to sparkle).
can you test acheron E2S1 ("with robin" acheron build in the video) + sparkle S5 DDD with eagle set(153 spd) + same jiaoqiu with eagle set (153 spd) + gallagher multiplication Lightcone? I need to compare if using sparkle with a DDD light cone is better than using sparkle with a signature on acheron E2S1 team. Thanks 🙏
You don't need 168 spd in this case because Sparkle gets a 2 turn ult on the second wave witth some decent hit rng (as shown in this video), 146 eagle vonwaq + s1 ddd should be enough for 3 move on each wave, 4p messenger is just completely useless unless you have a super specific setup.
Man,due to gallagher with qpq,it makes robin such a good character since most of her energy problems has been easily solved since galagher is free with qpq too
168 speed DDD Sparkle should be able to match Robin here, then the tiebreaker factor for me would be the Eidolons, and in that case Robin wins hands down, Sparkle E2 is only better than Robin E1 if the team Def Shred is higher than 63% and lower than 80%. Another valid tiebreaker would be the comfort. 168 Sparkle is way more comfortable and consistent than Robin to use.
@@BailuGaming 168 DDD sparkle wouldn't be able to to match Robin here, as Robin advancing the team also means more stacks compared to Sparkle only advancing Acheron. Using DDD and 168 spd also means her buff volume is lower.
@@BailuGaming Wouldn't that compromise her buff too much? You get an extra Acheron turn but less buffs, and you get 3 turns alr with the same setup using Robin (Plus the other teammates) with less effort and better buffs (And SPD boots ATK loss is covered by Robin so it equals out)
sparkle team is short by 3 stacks of acheron's ult but sparkle increased acheron's damage by 10% than Robin team. Robin is basically the go to if you want 0-cycle in any team then sparkle team if you want big numbers
@@user-ej9ie5ff5x actually, no. The original commentor is correct. They stated "Acheron's damage" which is 100% accurate. (ST, Kafka) Sparkle final hit: 337,529 Robin final hit: 306,724 Robin final hit (IF her coordinated attack landed): 330,622 So, for Acheron's PERSONAL damage, which would be "big number screenshot" damage, Sparkle is better by about 10% in overkill situations where Robin's coordinated attack does not land. However, for non-overkill situations where Robin's attack lands alongside acheron's ult, Sparkle is only better for the "screenshot" dmg by around 2% Funny how that works out. Obv I'm not saying that robin is worse than sparkle, robin has always been better. teamwide turn manipulation is busted as fuck. Also, if you remove aventurine's debuffs from the enemy, I imagine robin's "overkill" damage would actually end up being higher, but we're not taking that into account, because then you'd want to compare Sparkle and Robin with aventurine debuffs, or with Gallagher QPQ. Sparkle is not bound to QPQ gallagher, but Robin in the acheron team is for the 0 cycle scenario.
This is currently 2 weeks old and still a better vid than others out there that just regurgitate his skills. Thank u. Didn’t pull Robin bcuz I didn’t want to hear singing on repeat, but I’d do anything for my Acheron 😊
If we're trying for low 0 cycle clears wouldn't 168 speed (with less crit to make up for the insane speed) Sparkle on Eagle and DDD be better here? It would give her 1 extra turn and let her 0 cycle like the Robin team while also being comfier to use past 0 cycle.
I generally stick to a standard build to appeal to more people and i do not prefer to go to super high relic investment, in this build she has 2-3 spd rolls on every single piece.
@@cornflakebutsilly Yeah that makes sense seeing as 160 speed is standard on most Sparkle builds for 1 cycle clears instead of 0. But I think for a versus showcase it would make more sense for Sparkle to either go 134 speed and all in on crit damage or 168 speed DDD and Eagle because 160 speed doesn't really do much for her here. I liked the showcase either way though showing a standard Sparkle vs standard Robin. I think Robin edges out Sparkle when it comes to average investment but Sparkle is slightly better at higher investment and insane speed tuning. For Acheron at least.
Robin: Sparkle, gtfo of my world! Got to be honest, didn't see this one coming at all. Really interesting comparison. Yet another day I realise what a mistake not pulling for her was.
The energy management and action management to get the most out of QPQ for Robin is very smart. Its good that you are able minimize rng by just being patient so this is basically her best case scenario, but I dont think Sparkle is that good with her. Can you try to make this with Pela instead with JQ? Wanna see how much of the difference it is
Honestly, the Sparkle+Archeron e2 comp is overrated, consider how Sparkle buff mainly crit and dmg%, which is what Archeron have a lot. And the 50% action foward don't help either, as Archeron's crimson self regen is not that much. Change to Robin who buff a lot of atk and action foward the whole team is just better
@@levi3248for the Acheron team his S1 is a big buff for example you will do more damage against this boss with him then Silverwolf with the Def ignore and Res pen boost that’s just how big his buff is. TLDR he sents SW into the shadow Realm ( aka stuck to the mono Q team )
@@The_CodFish69 I mean, he gives Acheron a 74% dmg vulnerability at E0S1. SW gives 20% dmg res decrease, 13% res pen and 69% def ignore with S5 pearls, and weakness implant (which also gives extra res pen). That’s…definitely more… Don’t get me wrong, I love Jiaoqiu, and he’s definitely BiS for Acheron is most cases but in the very very few cases where it’s completely single target, SW may be better (especially in AS). He’s also the only character in Genshin or HSR besides Acheron who’s LC im going for, i don’t think I’m biased but if I am, it’s toward Jiaoqiu, not silver wolf
What if both harmonies do not use the LC sign? Is robin still better? I don't have the lc sign robin and sparkle +sign, so I plan on gacha sparkle when it reruns e0s1 acheron btw
This would be much harder to pull off without Robin's LC. Robin needed to get hit 3 times to get her ult twice and that's with her signature. If you don't mind the investment, a 168 DDD and Eagle Sparkle should be much more consistent if both are E0S0.
Imagine calling Robin "mid" because Ruan Mei exist Edit: This comment is supposed to be a joke, we can stop arguing now. We each like what we like, keep it to yourself and shut up already.
@@jordicastella8799 Oh you can go back to the Robin vs Pela video, even though Ruan mei was never mention in that vid. Yet Ruan mei stan still go in and say Ruan mei is better than Robin or Robin is mid
@@jordicastella8799No one, idk why but I've never seen anyone bringing up Ruan Mei more than toxic Robin fans. They mentioned Ruan Mei, more than people who uses Ruan Mei. I guess it fits that Robin is an idol if her fanbase can be this toxic.
Not me starting a riot cause i lost my robin to freacking e2 bronya i literally screamed when harmony symbol pop up the i flopp when bronya show up😔. But i promise ill get e1 and her sig lc. just hope her rerun banner is not with sunday release 😭☠️
Robin, topaz and gallagher have had the highest stocks robin and topaz have gained more buffs with the release of new fua characters and robin with jiaoqiu and gallagher is the bis team for e0 and e2 Acheron Gallagher also is so good cause of his quid pro quo procs and frequent attacks which are perfect for energy hungry teams, march’s hunt form, e1 jade, and feixiao
Isn’t the first team missing two stacks remedied by purely only skilling with Jiaoqiu? In the 2nd wave, there was a point that was only a sliver of ult is missing for Jiaoqiu, which if you did not basic on the first wave, should be available. There were 2 enemy attacks not debuffed by ashen roast at that point, because there’s only a max trigger per ult. But anyway, Robin team is still cheaper due to having a 4 star sustain. Edit: There is no need to be sp neutral on Jiaoqiu, if you’re using Sparkle. See 1:35 for reference of missed stacks.
A really good showcase, as expected robin is the queen for 0 cycle, that 100% AV is just nuts, and for sparkle, kinda sad she got bashed so hard (by so many toxic) here, because her 0 cycle requires unusual build, ultra high speed, DDD, wind set (something only nerds actually farm them 🤣). Well just a little useless info though, i used them together instead of comparing them :v, infact the run is really smooth, they fit each other honestly, so for either fanbois just use them together if you have them, then gallagher can fill the FF support of whatever ur 2nd team is, he is goated anywhere, anyway. By Putting them together means Acheron's overflowing with damage and energy, most likely gonna 0 cycling most moc sustainless
Yo need advice here... kinda conflicted of whom should I pull between Jiaoqiu or Sparkle plus I'm guranteed so I gotta make the next pull worth it. (or should I skip till Robin) I have the following: - E2S2 Acheron - Bronya E1S1 - Gallagher E6S1 (Huohuo's LC) - Pela E6S5 (Sweat LC) - Ruan Mei E0S1 Help :')
Since u have e2s2 acheron, go for jiaoqiu. With jiaoqiu her team will be complete and wont be powercrept for a long time. Dmg buff wise bronya and sparkle not too big different. Plus bronya adv 100% turn, where acheron can move 2 times, with just her she can generate 6 stacks
pela straight up does not work with Robin. Jiaoqiu only enables this teamcomp by applying so many debuffs by himself (which he needs to carry because Gallagher only does 2 debuffs with his ult + enhanced basic), which allows Robin to slot in (sparkle is kind of different since she allows Acheron to basically double her self stack generation with S1 + skill). Gallagher is mostly there for QPQ for Robin's energy since Aventurine S1 is better in basically every other scenario. Jiaoqiu >>>Pela (in Acheron comps)
If only we have two Gallaghers, my Gallagher is occupied by my Firefly team. 😢 Great showcase though. I think I’ll just go for e0s1 Jiaoqiu to save more pulls for Feixiao, then eventually Robin’s rerun!
@@Dado_nastro The Gallager they mention is someone fast, friendly, have a lot of turn to proc QPQ, and recover tons of skill points. Which I don't think Lingsha can do tho
@@ariprizki430 I can pull for Lingsha for Firefly but then I would run into sp problem since my Firefly is only e0. Lingsha wouldn't work in this team as well as Gallagher because she doesn't utilize qpq as well as Gallagher and can only provide 1 debuff per ult rotation.
can I ask a question... just to confirm things in the Notes at the beginning of the video, you sad "QPQ Galla is mandatory" would this mean that people need to have a Galla AND QPQ to make this team work? or would subbing Galla for another sustain be fine? or how about a different Abundance like say Lingsha with QPQ.. would that work? because I feel like people are misinterpreting some things... like they are too focused on Robin and don't get me wrong, Robin is AMAZING as always, but people seem to be forgetting that QPQ Galla makes this comp work because unlike normal follow up teams Robin can't regen energy as well in this comp
@@mystic07x11 the problem is that, like I said, people are too focused on Robin just read the comments in this video most of them either praise Robin too much or downplay Sparkle take a guess what would happen if any one of these people do this comp and put Aventurine instead of QPQ Gallagher... suddenly Robin isn't charging her energy fast enough and the entire team is having SP problems the issue is not with Gallagher being hard to obtain(at least if you specifically chose him during the bartending event) or QPQ being in the MoC shop.. the issue is people's tunnel vision and at the end of that is Robin and Robin only
@AJLaz000 no it is frustration from ppl that sparkle is meant to be best hyped carry unit bo question and someone who role is sorted to more a duel dps style us still better than sparkle what that tell about how op next harmony will be
If I wanted to use E0 Acheron with 1 harmony and 1 nihility, would robin still be better than sparkle? I’m assuming it’s robin since the next video is using robin(?)
I don't have Jiao yet and i can probably 0 cycle this with Sparkle and i use FX as a sustain. I say probably because well i can always 0 cycle. It's Acheron + Mono quantum team i am using atm. With Jiao replacing SW however my damage will go even higher. Calced that Jiao buffs out perform SW even if i weakness implant. Though i'll be going for E2.
it’s just that the sp kinda went to waste with that team as none jq/aven/gal will need to use their skill too much, on general robin being able to 100% the whole team means it’s also extra energy for the whole team too, which sometimes may lead to more stacks/ult (while at sparkle it’s just for the main dps) you can work this with pela but i think you will miss out on a lot of stacks as the vid above only got to get 0 cycle thanks to jq’s stacks, on a longer battle the stacks generation will also have a bigger gap
Yep, in a regular MoC both would 0 cycle by overkilling and you won't really see any difference, but here Kafka's 40% Lightning RES shows you Acheron + Jiaoqiu + Robin's bruteforce potential.
Could we get a e0s0 (gnsw) acheron with e0s0 (eyes of prey) jiaoqiu + pela (resolution) vs e0s0 (gnsw) acheron with e0s0 jiaoqiu (eyes of prey) + ruan mei (memories) please? I considering to skip jiaoqiu for robin unless he is a huge upgrade to my current team
Jiaoqiu is the best teammate for Acheron the Robin comp will not work as well with Acheron without Jiaoqiu. Robin rerun is probably not in 2.5 but you can always wait to pull til after the livestream show us who is rerunning.
Ruan Mei would not perform as well because she doesn't have 100% av forward that Robin has. That 100% av forward allies her allies to take extra turn meaning more energy for their next ultimate. And you need Jiaoqiu for Robin to work well. Jiaoqiu allows you to run a harmony unit at e0 because of how much stacks he provides.
Jiaoqiu's LC or e6 acheron? I can probably fetch Jiaoqiu without harming my saving too much but not sure about his light cone (My acheron is currently e2)
you would be losing the buff of acheron's passive by not having another nilhidad remember, obviously the damage you lose would most likely make you lose at least 1 cycle
Any idea of a build for jiaoqiu? I have the 4pc dot set on with the 2pc effect hit rate set but only 145 speed because I cannot get speed or ehr on substats at alllll
4pc DOT and effect hit rate set if you want him on DOT team whereas you want Eagle of Twilight Line 4pc and Vonwacq 2pc for Acheron to make sure he is getting in as many attacks possible and keeping his ult up.
Someone explain why does Robin work better for E2 Acheron? Sparkle looks to give more buffs, DMG boost along with free CRIT DMG, Robin's stuff is the same but CRIT DMG -> ATK. Wouldn't more CRIT DMG be better?
@@cornflakebutsilly robin has THAT much personal DMG to out-DMG Sparkle's free CRIT DMG? I get the 100% AA and 0-cycling, but I just felt like the free CRIT DMG and DMG boost of Sparkle is more, over time. Does Robin's DMG on burst apply per hit of the Ult or just the final hit?
She only better if she can keep up her ult up time, since a whole team get more turn, its more stack for acheron. But If you watch it carefully, you can see that robin in this vid get attacked alot, this guy mostly rerun this stage many time with robin to have this perfect run. In reality, ronbin will have s very hard time to 0 cycles this stage because of rng, she only work in stage like hoolay when the the boss aoe a lot, or stage that have buff that restore energy.
won't be as comfortable and smooth, gal works as a battery for robin using the light cone quid pro quid. without that robin prob won't get enough energy.
It will you just lose out on debuff on basic atk after ult debuff that Gallagher does. However if you get e2 Aventurine, he will have way more consistency since e2 give debuff on basic atk and e1 makes his ult always apply shields.
Couple misplays on sparkle's side, and for some reason no Sig or even incessant for JQ despite every other 5* having their sig? Would have been a 0 Cycle for Sparkle if that was the case.
The results were a lot closer than i thought. Robin seems to do more damage by quite a bit but sparkle gives off more ultimate per cycle For consistency sake I'd say sparkle had better performance but for 0 cycle? Well who else, Robin absolutely is the best to make anyone 0 cycle. She should be T0 harmony alongside RM by now because of that team-wide 100% advance forward. Anyways thanks for doing my recommendation :D
every fucking team in this game beside break i remove ruan mei and use robin , robin teams clears 2/3 cycles faster i dont know why ruan mei copers batchest her versatility
You already said it. RM is best in break teams. No other harmony beats her in that niche. Outside of break teams, robin is best. But if your team relies heavily on SP, sparkle is your girl
Bro they are both good and for 0 cycle I use ruin mai robin and bronya the real question is these sparkle copers if I ever have sp issues I use my boy gallagher
I'm still undecided if should I pull for Jiaoqui for my e1 Acheron (yes I'm planning to e2 and s1 her) or should I pull for Sparkle's LC (I have bad luck on Crit rate rolls so the CR on her LC might help me) or skip this patch entirely to save. Thoughts?
yep, sparkle has good replacements for her sig like ddd, past and future, and many other things so i think jiaoqiu is going to be better for long term investment for your acheron
@@Sampoforeverrrr My Sparkle is using the s1 Tingyun NH LC coz I only have few Harmony LCs so I guess will stick to it although the energy passive is worst to get.
@@jyusatsu I would use the MoC lc on Sparkle over that. The 32 dmg% is often a lot better than other options and only performs slightly worse than her sig for any characters who don't act much outside of their buffed turn. If you got something else for now fair enough but it's nice to have for Sparkle.
I have E0 Robin, no sparkle. I can't take gallagher away from my FF team. But I do have E0 aventurine with trend. I also have gepard's LC. So should I just pull for Jiaoqiu instead of sparkle? I'm worried because of the SP consumption of that team.
@@ルリ-ruriJiaoqiu’s stack generation is good enough solo that he enables E0 Acheron to run him as the only Nihility which lets her slot in a Harmony unit that can buff her enough to make up for the loss of a second Nihility at E0-namely, Robin’s buffs are enough to compensate for the loss of Acheron’s double Nihility passive. You can find a video on it on Yellovv’s channel where Jiaoqiu + Robin is Acheron’s strongest team even at E0.
@@xo8677 e0 acheron doesnt utilize her full kit with sparkle also sparkle doesnt fill in acheron weakness which is low attack unless shes at least e1s1, something robin e0 fix. e0 acheron + sparkle are just not worth it. using pela would achieve more or less similar result while using less resource.
Robin is still better. She can give her team an extra action whereas Sparkle can only do it on one ally. Funny enough in both showcases Sparkle only gives Acheron two action, the same Robin gives. Robin provides more team dmg compare to Sparkle. Team dmg seems to matter more as we shift away from hypercarry meta comps.
Nah Sparkle is still really good for JL and DHIL. Also, it's not like just because Robin does slightly better, sparkle is dead. Just wait for next simple CRIT DPS (not followup) and Sparkle should be BiS (or second BiS).
@@DAHN9000 Wouldn’t Robin be better still? Every crit dps does better with Robin compared to Sparkle in terms of low cycle clear. Sparkle offers more sp comfort which rn its only dhil and qq that benefits it. Seele is an exception because she is a quantum unit that benefits from Sparkle’s nocturne ascension passive.
Nope, universal market doesn’t stack with jiaoqiu’s stack unless in the extra turn but aventurine doesn’t have much aggro for enemy to hit twice so his lightcone is better
I don't have Robin, but the only other thing I see which a lot of people seem to have glossed over gushing over robin is that if as you say you NEED Gallagher with QPQ then it kind of reduces robins value even if "damage number higher" T1 with aven and sparkle is still way more flexible.
Bro most of the teams people use robin in dont even have an abundance let alone qpq gallagher, and she does just fine. Robins energy is a problem but it's a problem with many solutions, quid pro quo gallagher is just one of them. Constant follow ups, tingyun, bronya, huohuo, there's a ton of ways to funnel energy into her efficiently
this team form yellovvv team, they don't show that because expen cost but this team clear the same cycle compare with team (arche robin jaoqui galla ) in his test
More impressively I’ve seen good MMORPG raiders who used mouse to press all the ability buttons and move around, but acing the raiding content lol. Now that is really impressive…
Jiaoqui and get robin in 2.5 if u don't have her already as even at e0 as Jiaoqui gives so many stacks it allows u to put a harmony unit without really missing out on stacks he is the enabler for having harmony units for e0 acheron
@@UltimatePollo3495 I don't have robin and just saw that robin is in next patch I'll skip jaoqi for now since its his first banner he'll come back soon and pull robin for my dot and I am planning to pull an E2 acheron so I'll skip him for now anyway thanks for replying I appreciate it☺️
@@UltimatePollo3495 I'll wait for ver 2.5 live stream and if Robin is there then I'll skip this banner or if there good characters in ver 2.6 drip marketing
i mean its good, robin scales better and is the obvious better pick up with her e1. If robin can match sparkle in one of her bis teams and is more universal, danil alone cant make her more viable. I would still pick up sparkle to have all harmony but robin is clearly better in most of my current teams
she's not that good for acheron, her energy is basically useless and bringing her to the robin team there might cause some sp issues since jq is not that sp positive
@@Sampoforeverrrr i meant huohuo in sparkle team since both jq and sparkle will be able to speed up their ult rotation while acheron wuld enjoy 3 turns of 40% atk buff..and ofc more jq ult so more frequent ult debuff stack refreshing
@@bigzhong466 ohh yeah but aventurine is still better for the stacks because of his lightcone which also gives 10% vuln which stacks with jiaoqiu's own ashen roast. he is used probably because of the 10% vuln as well as his ult which contributes to the overall stacks for acheron
Aventurine and gallagher provides stacks for Acheron. These extra stacks does matter because it allows Acheron to ult more often meaning more net dmg. HuoHuo doesn't provide any stacks herself.
You are showcasing Acheron e2+sparkle comp wearing sustain when the comp clearly dont need it to do a c0 clear, ofc Robin Galla qpq is going to run better if you play sustain, now remove aventurine and stick Bronya or RM/Robin on that spot and lets see how the comp stomps with even easier c0 run duh.
@@cornflakebutsilly Yea I know its crazy But that's the only way for fair competition with Robin, the queen of 0c imo. Every 0c video nowadays always have Robin and she makes it easier for every comp, not just this one.
Dont come back when a hunt/destruction unit comes out that eats all your sp for damage and power creep everyone dont come back when sparflop becomes tier 0 dont comenack when sparflop become a emanator stay on that side 😂
birdie birb 🐦 :3
btw, some people are asking for sparkle to be at 168 spd + eagle. I get your point but my showcases don't go into that sort of high investment, the highest spd support i've ever used on my showcases is a 171 spd tingyun with 4 pc muskeeter spd bonus (and she has 10 more base spd compared to sparkle).
can you test acheron E2S1 ("with robin" acheron build in the video) + sparkle S5 DDD with eagle set(153 spd) + same jiaoqiu with eagle set (153 spd) + gallagher multiplication Lightcone?
I need to compare if using sparkle with a DDD light cone is better than using sparkle with a signature on acheron E2S1 team. Thanks 🙏
only xolze can have that relics
You don't need 168 spd in this case because Sparkle gets a 2 turn ult on the second wave witth some decent hit rng (as shown in this video), 146 eagle vonwaq + s1 ddd should be enough for 3 move on each wave, 4p messenger is just completely useless unless you have a super specific setup.
Does acheron actually wants lightning orb in this team?
@@crystalturtle-f2s is DDD+eagle sparkle can be better for E2S1 Acheron than sparkle with sign lightcone ?
"1extra turn can change everything"
- The Singing Bird
@@sa-jy4veumm , sparkle dont use ultimate btw
@@sa-jy4veand her dmg as well
@@thfz77Umm Sparkle doesn't even 0 cycle so what exactly?
Man,due to gallagher with qpq,it makes robin such a good character since most of her energy problems has been easily solved since galagher is free with qpq too
Robin Star Rail is indeed a epic game.
168 speed DDD Sparkle should be able to match Robin here, then the tiebreaker factor for me would be the Eidolons, and in that case Robin wins hands down, Sparkle E2 is only better than Robin E1 if the team Def Shred is higher than 63% and lower than 80%.
Another valid tiebreaker would be the comfort. 168 Sparkle is way more comfortable and consistent than Robin to use.
@@BailuGaming if you dont mind me asking, why 168? is it a SPD break point? cuz my sparkle is siting at 164, should i try to make it higher?
@@BailuGaming 168 DDD sparkle wouldn't be able to to match Robin here, as Robin advancing the team also means more stacks compared to Sparkle only advancing Acheron. Using DDD and 168 spd also means her buff volume is lower.
@@BailuGaming Wouldn't that compromise her buff too much? You get an extra Acheron turn but less buffs, and you get 3 turns alr with the same setup using Robin (Plus the other teammates) with less effort and better buffs (And SPD boots ATK loss is covered by Robin so it equals out)
@@td984but Sparkle usually advances Acheron 3 times the first cicle, isn’t that a lot?
Robin just Casually Sends Sparkle to the Shodow Realm...
Lmo now I pulling only jiaoqui for my acheron
Ty for these comparaisons, it helps for reconsidering pulls plans
sparkle team is short by 3 stacks of acheron's ult but sparkle increased acheron's damage by 10% than Robin team. Robin is basically the go to if you want 0-cycle in any team then sparkle team if you want big numbers
Do u mean by 3 times ult or the 3 stacks of ult's charhe
Wdym? Robin team did more dmg get your eyes checked or maybe watch it again.
Yeah bro robin 0 cycle and robin a best damage acheron ult ahaha @@user-ej9ie5ff5x
@@user-ej9ie5ff5x actually, no. The original commentor is correct. They stated "Acheron's damage" which is 100% accurate.
(ST, Kafka)
Sparkle final hit: 337,529
Robin final hit: 306,724
Robin final hit (IF her coordinated attack landed): 330,622
So, for Acheron's PERSONAL damage, which would be "big number screenshot" damage, Sparkle is better by about 10% in overkill situations where Robin's coordinated attack does not land. However, for non-overkill situations where Robin's attack lands alongside acheron's ult, Sparkle is only better for the "screenshot" dmg by around 2%
Funny how that works out. Obv I'm not saying that robin is worse than sparkle, robin has always been better. teamwide turn manipulation is busted as fuck.
Also, if you remove aventurine's debuffs from the enemy, I imagine robin's "overkill" damage would actually end up being higher, but we're not taking that into account, because then you'd want to compare Sparkle and Robin with aventurine debuffs, or with Gallagher QPQ. Sparkle is not bound to QPQ gallagher, but Robin in the acheron team is for the 0 cycle scenario.
@@pally3370 that 10% is due to adven's light cone. On the gallagher run, its only 280000
Not my racist quen get flopped again... well gotta wait for the skillpoint hungry meta😢😢😢😢
HELP LMAO
There needs to be a skill point set
Lmao just wait for hoyo to hop off the meat of FUA and Break and she should be back in business
@@Radiant450the next new meta are summons…
@@tuananhdang7385well to be frank, sparkle’s still a good support for summon based characters
JESUS ROBIN... THE POWER OF SINGING
This is currently 2 weeks old and still a better vid than others out there that just regurgitate his skills. Thank u. Didn’t pull Robin bcuz I didn’t want to hear singing on repeat, but I’d do anything for my Acheron 😊
Goated showcase 🙏
If we're trying for low 0 cycle clears wouldn't 168 speed (with less crit to make up for the insane speed) Sparkle on Eagle and DDD be better here?
It would give her 1 extra turn and let her 0 cycle like the Robin team while also being comfier to use past 0 cycle.
Yes
I generally stick to a standard build to appeal to more people and i do not prefer to go to super high relic investment, in this build she has 2-3 spd rolls on every single piece.
@@cornflakebutsilly Yeah that makes sense seeing as 160 speed is standard on most Sparkle builds for 1 cycle clears instead of 0. But I think for a versus showcase it would make more sense for Sparkle to either go 134 speed and all in on crit damage or 168 speed DDD and Eagle because 160 speed doesn't really do much for her here.
I liked the showcase either way though showing a standard Sparkle vs standard Robin. I think Robin edges out Sparkle when it comes to average investment but Sparkle is slightly better at higher investment and insane speed tuning. For Acheron at least.
@@grim3103 fair tbh
168 spd sparkle will actually be very doable given the new planars that were leaked
Robin: Sparkle, gtfo of my world!
Got to be honest, didn't see this one coming at all. Really interesting comparison. Yet another day I realise what a mistake not pulling for her was.
This video is perfect.
"unplayable outside fua team"
"only good for 0 cycle"
"easy skip cus worse than sparkle/ruan mei"
- 🤡🤡🤡
I don't feel bad for skiping Sparkle right now xd
I have Robin and RM.
Fr lmao, I love seeing people cry that they skip Robin because of Feixiao
@@MiIkywayCookie "don't come back when robin is BiS for every team besides superbreak, stay on that side"
@@MiIkywayCookiemost of the skippers during Robin's release were Firefly wanters though
@@whippedforagroupcalleddrea5169true ngl
The energy management and action management to get the most out of QPQ for Robin is very smart. Its good that you are able minimize rng by just being patient so this is basically her best case scenario, but I dont think Sparkle is that good with her. Can you try to make this with Pela instead with JQ? Wanna see how much of the difference it is
Honestly, the Sparkle+Archeron e2 comp is overrated, consider how Sparkle buff mainly crit and dmg%, which is what Archeron have a lot. And the 50% action foward don't help either, as Archeron's crimson self regen is not that much. Change to Robin who buff a lot of atk and action foward the whole team is just better
Jiaoqiu being sp positive is cap lmao you need to spam E-E-BA to make his ult 0 downtime@@sa-jy4ve
@@dyaztama1364 you only have to do this when "playing" google sheets, where enemies never attack and never die
So do you think it’s worth pulling E1 for Jiaoqiu over E0 Sparkle if you already have E1S1 Bronya?
@@levi3248for the Acheron team his S1 is a big buff for example you will do more damage against this boss with him then Silverwolf with the Def ignore and Res pen boost that’s just how big his buff is.
TLDR he sents SW into the shadow Realm ( aka stuck to the mono Q team )
@@The_CodFish69 I mean, he gives Acheron a 74% dmg vulnerability at E0S1. SW gives 20% dmg res decrease, 13% res pen and 69% def ignore with S5 pearls, and weakness implant (which also gives extra res pen). That’s…definitely more…
Don’t get me wrong, I love Jiaoqiu, and he’s definitely BiS for Acheron is most cases but in the very very few cases where it’s completely single target, SW may be better (especially in AS).
He’s also the only character in Genshin or HSR besides Acheron who’s LC im going for, i don’t think I’m biased but if I am, it’s toward Jiaoqiu, not silver wolf
What if both harmonies do not use the LC sign? Is robin still better?
I don't have the lc sign robin and sparkle +sign, so I plan on gacha sparkle when it reruns
e0s1 acheron btw
up, same question
If u plan on further investment E1 Robin is probably the best character ever lol
This would be much harder to pull off without Robin's LC. Robin needed to get hit 3 times to get her ult twice and that's with her signature.
If you don't mind the investment, a 168 DDD and Eagle Sparkle should be much more consistent if both are E0S0.
Can you do this same video but with E1S1 bronya? Never see Bronya in these comparison videos but she's amazing for E2 Acheron
This just show Gallaguer is the Goat.
And lingsha is Gallagher 2.0 insane.
I just want to pull Lingsha because I need a second Gallagher 🤣
@@cristiana.9077 same for me ✌️
@@cristiana.9077fr but nobody will never be as goated as my man
Imagine calling Robin "mid" because Ruan Mei exist
Edit: This comment is supposed to be a joke, we can stop arguing now. We each like what we like, keep it to yourself and shut up already.
Who called Robin "mid"? XD
@@jordicastella8799 Oh you can go back to the Robin vs Pela video, even though Ruan mei was never mention in that vid. Yet Ruan mei stan still go in and say Ruan mei is better than Robin or Robin is mid
@@iamwayne6138They are crazy just like ruan mei😂😂😂 what do you expect 🎉🎉
@@jordicastella8799No one, idk why but I've never seen anyone bringing up Ruan Mei more than toxic Robin fans. They mentioned Ruan Mei, more than people who uses Ruan Mei. I guess it fits that Robin is an idol if her fanbase can be this toxic.
Nobody calls her mid
Robin fanbase really trying to be victims in everything I guess
Not me starting a riot cause i lost my robin to freacking e2 bronya i literally screamed when harmony symbol pop up the i flopp when bronya show up😔. But i promise ill get e1 and her sig lc. just hope her rerun banner is not with sunday release 😭☠️
With the banner leaks I’m seeing it’s not looking too good for you 😞😞
@@AimFlash2506 yes that's why I'm just gonna skip sparkle and get jiaqio then save for robin and sunday
literally me
@@armihnfruity4788stop being angry man bronya and himeko are the best u can lose to at least it not bailu
@@UltimatePollo3495 I can be angry us much I want because that's my account e1 bronya is enough for me I don't care on her eidolons more than that.
First comment and please grant me an incredible amount of luck in pulling this foxian boiyaaa.
You have been guaranteed 💯🙏
@@nickn_myae me too pls
@@Lukasenku all Jq wanters will be Jq Havers🗣️
Good luck for your pulls :D
@@nickn_myae ME TOO!! ME TOO!!!!
Robin, topaz and gallagher have had the highest stocks robin and topaz have gained more buffs with the release of new fua characters and robin with jiaoqiu and gallagher is the bis team for e0 and e2 Acheron Gallagher also is so good cause of his quid pro quo procs and frequent attacks which are perfect for energy hungry teams, march’s hunt form, e1 jade, and feixiao
Isn’t the first team missing two stacks remedied by purely only skilling with Jiaoqiu? In the 2nd wave, there was a point that was only a sliver of ult is missing for Jiaoqiu, which if you did not basic on the first wave, should be available. There were 2 enemy attacks not debuffed by ashen roast at that point, because there’s only a max trigger per ult.
But anyway, Robin team is still cheaper due to having a 4 star sustain.
Edit: There is no need to be sp neutral on Jiaoqiu, if you’re using Sparkle. See 1:35 for reference of missed stacks.
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A really good showcase, as expected robin is the queen for 0 cycle, that 100% AV is just nuts, and for sparkle, kinda sad she got bashed so hard (by so many toxic) here, because her 0 cycle requires unusual build, ultra high speed, DDD, wind set (something only nerds actually farm them 🤣).
Well just a little useless info though, i used them together instead of comparing them :v, infact the run is really smooth, they fit each other honestly, so for either fanbois just use them together if you have them, then gallagher can fill the FF support of whatever ur 2nd team is, he is goated anywhere, anyway.
By Putting them together means Acheron's overflowing with damage and energy, most likely gonna 0 cycling most moc sustainless
Still gonna use sparkle because the quantum and electric color match than robin's physical color :3
Yo need advice here... kinda conflicted of whom should I pull between Jiaoqiu or Sparkle plus I'm guranteed so I gotta make the next pull worth it. (or should I skip till Robin)
I have the following:
- E2S2 Acheron
- Bronya E1S1
- Gallagher E6S1 (Huohuo's LC)
- Pela E6S5 (Sweat LC)
- Ruan Mei E0S1
Help :')
few questions. What is your second team/dps. Are you comfortably clearing content in all 3 modes, pf as and moc with acheron
JQ by good margin. Acherons biggest nemesis currently is PF and JQ helping Acheron getting few extra ults off will help a lot more then Sparkle.
@@HelloThere-hz6po
My second team is Boothill team, I can easily clear MoC and AS except PF (i hate PF and I don't have Himeko)
@@ReynaldoGrandeJrII what’re your pf teams? You prolly need to focus more on pf, so prolly jq for now
Since u have e2s2 acheron, go for jiaoqiu. With jiaoqiu her team will be complete and wont be powercrept for a long time. Dmg buff wise bronya and sparkle not too big different. Plus bronya adv 100% turn, where acheron can move 2 times, with just her she can generate 6 stacks
Why is this convincing me to pull skip sparkle... now just 1 question is jiaoqiu that big of a difference w robin gallagher instead of pela?
Yes
For general use, Jiaoqiu + Robin is much better. For Acheron specifically, it's absolutely insane.
pela straight up does not work with Robin. Jiaoqiu only enables this teamcomp by applying so many debuffs by himself (which he needs to carry because Gallagher only does 2 debuffs with his ult + enhanced basic), which allows Robin to slot in (sparkle is kind of different since she allows Acheron to basically double her self stack generation with S1 + skill). Gallagher is mostly there for QPQ for Robin's energy since Aventurine S1 is better in basically every other scenario. Jiaoqiu >>>Pela (in Acheron comps)
@@DAHN9000 i see but his is lightcone significant in this team comp dmg?
@@tsuyu6015
Not really? Jiaoiqiu works best whether or not you have his lightcone. The only thing that changes is lower build requirements for his ehr
If only we have two Gallaghers, my Gallagher is occupied by my Firefly team. 😢
Great showcase though. I think I’ll just go for e0s1 Jiaoqiu to save more pulls for Feixiao, then eventually Robin’s rerun!
Hello Lingsha coming 😅😅😅
Lingsha is literally Gallagher. But 5 star.
@@Dado_nastro The Gallager they mention is someone fast, friendly, have a lot of turn to proc QPQ, and recover tons of skill points. Which I don't think Lingsha can do tho
@@iamwayne6138 but if he pulled for lingsha than Gallagher is no longer occupied, no?
@@ariprizki430 I can pull for Lingsha for Firefly but then I would run into sp problem since my Firefly is only e0. Lingsha wouldn't work in this team as well as Gallagher because she doesn't utilize qpq as well as Gallagher and can only provide 1 debuff per ult rotation.
can I ask a question... just to confirm things
in the Notes at the beginning of the video, you sad "QPQ Galla is mandatory" would this mean that people need to have a Galla AND QPQ to make this team work? or would subbing Galla for another sustain be fine? or how about a different Abundance like say Lingsha with QPQ.. would that work?
because I feel like people are misinterpreting some things... like they are too focused on Robin and don't get me wrong, Robin is AMAZING as always, but people seem to be forgetting that QPQ Galla makes this comp work because unlike normal follow up teams Robin can't regen energy as well in this comp
I think the idea is pull for lingsha freeing up ur gallagher in break teams so u can use him with robin and acheron
Gallagher was free + Quid pro quo is basically free in the shop , so I don't see the problem
@@mystic07x11 the problem is that, like I said, people are too focused on Robin
just read the comments in this video
most of them either praise Robin too much or downplay Sparkle
take a guess what would happen if any one of these people do this comp and put Aventurine instead of QPQ Gallagher... suddenly Robin isn't charging her energy fast enough and the entire team is having SP problems
the issue is not with Gallagher being hard to obtain(at least if you specifically chose him during the bartending event) or QPQ being in the MoC shop.. the issue is people's tunnel vision and at the end of that is Robin and Robin only
@AJLaz000 no it is frustration from ppl that sparkle is meant to be best hyped carry unit bo question and someone who role is sorted to more a duel dps style us still better than sparkle what that tell about how op next harmony will be
Usual Robin W.
Has this girl even taken an L?
Yes, he lost his brother
@@Valravne728 💀
@@Valravne728 *HE?!?*
@@Dado_nastroa tiny secret
@@Valravne728um wot
can you tell me which one is better e1 sparkle or e1 robin without signatures?
@@7amaKl E1 robin
@@cornflakebutsilly thanks
Still work with e0s1 acheron , sparkle no sig , jiaoqui nos sig and aventurine no sig?
If I wanted to use E0 Acheron with 1 harmony and 1 nihility, would robin still be better than sparkle? I’m assuming it’s robin since the next video is using robin(?)
Sparkle in thumbnail: Kon
Yep, skipping Feixiao now for Robin-chwannnn~~~!!!!
watching this so i can have e1 robin on her rerun 😞🙏
I don't have Jiao yet and i can probably 0 cycle this with Sparkle and i use FX as a sustain. I say probably because well i can always 0 cycle. It's Acheron + Mono quantum team i am using atm. With Jiao replacing SW however my damage will go even higher. Calced that Jiao buffs out perform SW even if i weakness implant. Though i'll be going for E2.
So, if someone could please dumb down why Robin would be preferable as the harmony unit? And also, would this work with Pela instead of Jiaoqiu?
Robin because she boost atk a lot and she gave extra 1 cycle for advancing all allies for 1 turn. you can but the cycle will be longer
it’s just that the sp kinda went to waste with that team as none jq/aven/gal will need to use their skill too much, on general robin being able to 100% the whole team means it’s also extra energy for the whole team too, which sometimes may lead to more stacks/ult (while at sparkle it’s just for the main dps)
you can work this with pela but i think you will miss out on a lot of stacks as the vid above only got to get 0 cycle thanks to jq’s stacks, on a longer battle the stacks generation will also have a bigger gap
Robin + Gallagher with Quid Pro is basically a staple for this pseudo archetype of action advance team.
Can robin still achieve the 2nd ult even with the event 4 star LC and QPQ gallagher? Or do you really need her sig LC for that?
with the 4* LC you might have to rely on getting hit once or twice, otherwise there's no big difference in terms of energy
@@cornflakebutsilly thank you i guess i'll get robin on her rerun
@@cornflakebutsilly whats about bronya lightcone ? or is the 4 star event lc better ?
@@rezzyra bronya lc is better, if you have bronya lc i wouldn't even recommend pulling for sig tbh
@@cornflakebutsilly damn really ? so signature > bronya lc > event lc ?
How about sparkle, acheron, bronya, JQ?
Is there any replacement for gallagher with qq lc since my Firefly is taking him?
They called me crazy for pulling and wanting Robin
at the beginning of the cycle you can use ult sparkle and acheron and spam e aventurine to optimize acheron stack
Robin salesman channel
Can compare e2 hanabi vs e2 robin for acheron
Should I pull robin e1 or her sig on re run I don’t have bronya LC
@@donew1thita11 E1
Both can 0 cycle but Robin is always more comfortable
Yep, in a regular MoC both would 0 cycle by overkilling and you won't really see any difference, but here Kafka's 40% Lightning RES shows you Acheron + Jiaoqiu + Robin's bruteforce potential.
Sparkle DID not 0 cycle… at least in this comparison
@@cornflakebutsillyHave you done E0S1 Acheron + Sparkle and Jaq as the only nihility? I haven't seen it with other showcases
@@eldijdjbruh214 Eagle Sparkle lowkey could have 0 cycled since she only needed 3 more stacks which is only 1 more turn.
@@jj6148 168 eagle set is not relatable anyway
Could we get a e0s0 (gnsw) acheron with e0s0 (eyes of prey) jiaoqiu + pela (resolution) vs e0s0 (gnsw) acheron with e0s0 jiaoqiu (eyes of prey) + ruan mei (memories) please?
I considering to skip jiaoqiu for robin unless he is a huge upgrade to my current team
Jiaoqiu is the best teammate for Acheron the Robin comp will not work as well with Acheron without Jiaoqiu. Robin rerun is probably not in 2.5 but you can always wait to pull til after the livestream show us who is rerunning.
Ruan Mei would not perform as well because she doesn't have 100% av forward that Robin has. That 100% av forward allies her allies to take extra turn meaning more energy for their next ultimate.
And you need Jiaoqiu for Robin to work well. Jiaoqiu allows you to run a harmony unit at e0 because of how much stacks he provides.
My robin with signature still clears slower than my sparkle with past and future. Maybe I'm just bad?
Keep in mind this showcase is with S1 in Robin and Sparkle.
You know bro that Kafka have a huge electro resistance?
Jiaoqiu's LC or e6 acheron? I can probably fetch Jiaoqiu without harming my saving too much but not sure about his light cone (My acheron is currently e2)
If you're going for e6 i think it wouldn't be a problem for you to get one more 5 star
Can i use e2 acheron with robin, sparkle and aventurine?
you would be losing the buff of acheron's passive by not having another nilhidad remember, obviously the damage you lose would most likely make you lose at least 1 cycle
@@jaredolvera506okay thank you!
what about the same team but with some eidolons? like e1s1 jiaoqiu with e2s1 sparkle vs robin e1s1
Can you do Kafka + JQ + Robin VS Kafka + BS + Robin?
can you do the same but sparkle and robin e2?
Any idea of a build for jiaoqiu? I have the 4pc dot set on with the 2pc effect hit rate set but only 145 speed because I cannot get speed or ehr on substats at alllll
4pc DOT and effect hit rate set if you want him on DOT team whereas you want Eagle of Twilight Line 4pc and Vonwacq 2pc for Acheron to make sure he is getting in as many attacks possible and keeping his ult up.
Can you do acheron e2s1 + jiaoqiu in as?
Someone explain why does Robin work better for E2 Acheron? Sparkle looks to give more buffs, DMG boost along with free CRIT DMG, Robin's stuff is the same but CRIT DMG -> ATK. Wouldn't more CRIT DMG be better?
100% team action advance and robin's personal damage
@@cornflakebutsilly robin has THAT much personal DMG to out-DMG Sparkle's free CRIT DMG? I get the 100% AA and 0-cycling, but I just felt like the free CRIT DMG and DMG boost of Sparkle is more, over time.
Does Robin's DMG on burst apply per hit of the Ult or just the final hit?
@@user-38rufhoerh3id Atk is just as good as crit dmg in hsr, sometimes worse sometimes better
She only better if she can keep up her ult up time, since a whole team get more turn, its more stack for acheron.
But If you watch it carefully, you can see that robin in this vid get attacked alot, this guy mostly rerun this stage many time with robin to have this perfect run. In reality, ronbin will have s very hard time to 0 cycles this stage because of rng, she only work in stage like hoolay when the the boss aoe a lot, or stage that have buff that restore energy.
If I have zero interest in swapping out Aven (who is e0s1) for Gallagher, will the team with Robin still work?
won't be as comfortable and smooth, gal works as a battery for robin using the light cone quid pro quid. without that robin prob won't get enough energy.
@@kingramp7312 aven also does a bunch of fua + basics and ulti so would not be as bad
It will you just lose out on debuff on basic atk after ult debuff that Gallagher does.
However if you get e2 Aventurine, he will have way more consistency since e2 give debuff on basic atk and e1 makes his ult always apply shields.
Couple misplays on sparkle's side, and for some reason no Sig or even incessant for JQ despite every other 5* having their sig? Would have been a 0 Cycle for Sparkle if that was the case.
The results were a lot closer than i thought. Robin seems to do more damage by quite a bit but sparkle gives off more ultimate per cycle
For consistency sake I'd say sparkle had better performance but for 0 cycle? Well who else, Robin absolutely is the best to make anyone 0 cycle. She should be T0 harmony alongside RM by now because of that team-wide 100% advance forward.
Anyways thanks for doing my recommendation :D
every fucking team in this game beside break i remove ruan mei and use robin , robin teams clears 2/3 cycles faster i dont know why ruan mei copers batchest her versatility
but they are ignorant
You already said it. RM is best in break teams. No other harmony beats her in that niche. Outside of break teams, robin is best. But if your team relies heavily on SP, sparkle is your girl
Bro fighting a battle with himself
Bro they are both good and for 0 cycle I use ruin mai robin and bronya the real question is these sparkle copers if I ever have sp issues I use my boy gallagher
I'm still undecided if should I pull for Jiaoqui for my e1 Acheron (yes I'm planning to e2 and s1 her) or should I pull for Sparkle's LC (I have bad luck on Crit rate rolls so the CR on her LC might help me) or skip this patch entirely to save. Thoughts?
Yes, you should. He's still the better nihility for her
yep, sparkle has good replacements for her sig like ddd, past and future, and many other things so i think jiaoqiu is going to be better for long term investment for your acheron
@@wandersonvitor3054 will consider it. Now it's just a matter of winning my 50/50 or have enough pulls to get him.
@@Sampoforeverrrr My Sparkle is using the s1 Tingyun NH LC coz I only have few Harmony LCs so I guess will stick to it although the energy passive is worst to get.
@@jyusatsu I would use the MoC lc on Sparkle over that. The 32 dmg% is often a lot better than other options and only performs slightly worse than her sig for any characters who don't act much outside of their buffed turn. If you got something else for now fair enough but it's nice to have for Sparkle.
i might just skip sparkle for e1 robin tbh. i don't have dhil anyway so most of the time, robin is an upgrade if not a sidegrade to her
how does bronya compare to limited harmonies? i'm guessing for acheron she's definitely not as good as robin but what about between sparkle and rm?
@@jamanisi can be a good alternative for sparkle if you can manage skill points
@@cornflakebutsillyI would only use bronya if u had gallagher on multiplication to get u them skill points
If bronya is e2s1? Absolutely, also very strong if you have her just at e1s1.
now i regret skipping for robin cuz now she is in every team that i play except fua 😭
robin is the real harmony t0 , ruan mei copers have to accept it
I have E0 Robin, no sparkle. I can't take gallagher away from my FF team. But I do have E0 aventurine with trend. I also have gepard's LC. So should I just pull for Jiaoqiu instead of sparkle? I'm worried because of the SP consumption of that team.
Jiaoqui is sp postive his rotation is skill basic basic adventurine sp postive so is robin so pull for jiaqiao and then put geopard lc on ur adventure
can u try e0 acheron, jiaoqiu, robin vs pela, and adventure
Hey there! Could you test E1 black swan+Kafka LC with Pela vs Jiaoqiu E0S1 with Pela? Thank you if you do it!
Gallagher variant is not auto friendly in this team. He doesn't ult 😢
If enemy hit two times, is possible debuff from jiaque stack with debuff from lc trend?
@@fauzanhaidar8792 yes
@@cornflakebutsilly do you have video acheron team with jiaque and peservation use lc trend?
good replacement for gallagher since he is on my firefly team?
Lingsha when she out
Aven?
video by video makes me pissed that i lost to robin to that child......(clara)
Same but mine is to that punching bag ice kid (Yanqing)
@@jyusatsu
At least Clara is fun to play, you could’ve gotten yanqing instead of
@@Lakata125 that’s true though my argenti is already good enough
Well, I lose Robin to Yanqing but I still got Robin (I grinded the hell out of it)
Nice, I can skip sparkle
What about E0S1 Acheron with Hanabi + Jaq as the sole nihility? I dont think i have seen that yet
no need, the result obviously wont be good. if not e2 or smore stick to 2 nihility
@@ルリ-ruriJiaoqiu’s stack generation is good enough solo that he enables E0 Acheron to run him as the only Nihility which lets her slot in a Harmony unit that can buff her enough to make up for the loss of a second Nihility at E0-namely, Robin’s buffs are enough to compensate for the loss of Acheron’s double Nihility passive. You can find a video on it on Yellovv’s channel where Jiaoqiu + Robin is Acheron’s strongest team even at E0.
@@xo8677 e0 acheron doesnt utilize her full kit with sparkle also sparkle doesnt fill in acheron weakness which is low attack unless shes at least e1s1, something robin e0 fix. e0 acheron + sparkle are just not worth it. using pela would achieve more or less similar result while using less resource.
Robin is still better. She can give her team an extra action whereas Sparkle can only do it on one ally. Funny enough in both showcases Sparkle only gives Acheron two action, the same Robin gives.
Robin provides more team dmg compare to Sparkle. Team dmg seems to matter more as we shift away from hypercarry meta comps.
@@ルリ-ruri you consider 4k+ atk low?
Jiaoqiu e0s1,acheron e0s1,pela e6s5(pearls) vs acheron e0s1,kafka e0s1, bs e1s1
Ok wtf why are all the characters i pulled for falling off......
Nah Sparkle is still really good for JL and DHIL. Also, it's not like just because Robin does slightly better, sparkle is dead. Just wait for next simple CRIT DPS (not followup) and Sparkle should be BiS (or second BiS).
@@DAHN9000 Wouldn’t Robin be better still? Every crit dps does better with Robin compared to Sparkle in terms of low cycle clear. Sparkle offers more sp comfort which rn its only dhil and qq that benefits it. Seele is an exception because she is a quantum unit that benefits from Sparkle’s nocturne ascension passive.
Falling off 1 cycle instead of 0 😢 same rewards btw
Unless you’re running 0 cycle setups then I wouldn’t worry too much about it
@@DAHN9000 Acheron isn't FuA and here we are. Sparkle is BiS only for SP-guzzlers, that's all.
Can you do pls Jiaoqui and Guin Kafkaless DoT?
😂 still i am sad that my e4s1 sparkle is viable... gotta die hard like sparkle😅😅😅
Will you do a high investment sparkle for 0 cycle and Robin high investment 0 cycle. I saw a comment on sparkle benefitting more from high investment
Still, imma get my sparkle e2 first and then i can decide between robin and ruan mei lmao
sparkle aven could have 0 cycle with better aven rng, and i think aven on universal market could have done better.
Nope, universal market doesn’t stack with jiaoqiu’s stack unless in the extra turn but aventurine doesn’t have much aggro for enemy to hit twice so his lightcone is better
I don't have Robin, but the only other thing I see which a lot of people seem to have glossed over gushing over robin is that if as you say you NEED Gallagher with QPQ then it kind of reduces robins value even if "damage number higher" T1 with aven and sparkle is still way more flexible.
You can pair her with tingyun or bronya to use her 2nd ult. There's a lot of play you can do, the problem is you can find it or not
Gallagher is free
QPQ is also free
Aven and sparkle is not
Your 'flexible' come with a cost, it's not free to gain those flexibility.
It is just in this specific team. There are many other ways to resolve Robin ult cost. It is not like Firefly who glued with HMC
Bro most of the teams people use robin in dont even have an abundance let alone qpq gallagher, and she does just fine. Robins energy is a problem but it's a problem with many solutions, quid pro quo gallagher is just one of them. Constant follow ups, tingyun, bronya, huohuo, there's a ton of ways to funnel energy into her efficiently
Can you try archeronFua i have seen this team clear boss hoolay 1cycle ( all e0s1 )
this team form yellovvv team, they don't show that because expen cost but this team clear the same cycle compare with team (arche robin jaoqui galla ) in his test
wait this guy uses his mouse to select the abilities instead of pressing the button
More impressively I’ve seen good MMORPG raiders who used mouse to press all the ability buttons and move around, but acing the raiding content lol. Now that is really impressive…
So sparkle or jiaoqi?
Jiaoqui and get robin in 2.5 if u don't have her already as even at e0 as Jiaoqui gives so many stacks it allows u to put a harmony unit without really missing out on stacks he is the enabler for having harmony units for e0 acheron
@@UltimatePollo3495 I don't have robin and just saw that robin is in next patch I'll skip jaoqi for now since its his first banner he'll come back soon and pull robin for my dot and I am planning to pull an E2 acheron so I'll skip him for now anyway thanks for replying I appreciate it☺️
@@Izumi144 I see gl on ur pulls
So what is ur plan now banner is out?@@Izumi144
@@UltimatePollo3495 I'll wait for ver 2.5 live stream and if Robin is there then I'll skip this banner or if there good characters in ver 2.6 drip marketing
This channel is discreetly promoting Robin without telling u
Anyone with brain cells can realize it 😀
i mean its good, robin scales better and is the obvious better pick up with her e1. If robin can match sparkle in one of her bis teams and is more universal, danil alone cant make her more viable. I would still pick up sparkle to have all harmony but robin is clearly better in most of my current teams
robin deserves to be promoted after all the doomposting she got on release
Таких глупых ошибок в этом видео при игре с Искоркой... Вообщем вы правы
If Robin has the 4* Memories of the Past cone and Sparkle has the 4* Past and Future cone, is Robin or Sparkle better?
Why would you give Robin Motp 😭😭😭
@@oyfum2638 I am F2P :v
@@luis7576 if you have the 2.2 event Light Cone, you can use that on Robin and give the Memories LC to Harmony Trailblazer
the event 4 star LC is her 2nd best LC
@@luis7576even then, aurely there is better options? Were you not here for the free event lc
Stop doing this to me man ...
-1 bronya?
@@_a_ce Can compete with sparkle if she's E2
more like brinya competes from e1 s1@@cornflakebutsilly
robin queen ended everyone in terms of both gameplay and design
Ruan Mei: 30 cylces
But prydwen said she’s the best!
Lmao fr. I love my Robin
@@eldijdjbruh214they’re an RM simp what do u expect? 😅
lol she nestled rent free in your brain thats just show great ruan queen is
Huehue where?
she's not that good for acheron, her energy is basically useless and bringing her to the robin team there might cause some sp issues since jq is not that sp positive
@@Sampoforeverrrr i meant huohuo in sparkle team since both jq and sparkle will be able to speed up their ult rotation while acheron wuld enjoy 3 turns of 40% atk buff..and ofc more jq ult so more frequent ult debuff stack refreshing
@@bigzhong466 ohh yeah but aventurine is still better for the stacks because of his lightcone which also gives 10% vuln which stacks with jiaoqiu's own ashen roast. he is used probably because of the 10% vuln as well as his ult which contributes to the overall stacks for acheron
Aventurine and gallagher provides stacks for Acheron. These extra stacks does matter because it allows Acheron to ult more often meaning more net dmg. HuoHuo doesn't provide any stacks herself.
@@ninthfriend3347 well jq wuld ult more plus 40% atk is still pretty much a lot for a team where theres barely any atk source
You are showcasing Acheron e2+sparkle comp wearing sustain when the comp clearly dont need it to do a c0 clear, ofc Robin Galla qpq is going to run better if you play sustain, now remove aventurine and stick Bronya or RM/Robin on that spot and lets see how the comp stomps with even easier c0 run duh.
Its only fair for Sparkle to have 168 DDD Eagle, just saying...
Wait, she needs to have 168 speed? I thought it was enough to have +160 speed
that's 7 more spd rolls 💀
bru thats nowhere possible for any f2p casual players. i can literally only get to 155 for my hyperspeed bronya, so sad.
@@SampoforeverrrrJust roll better.
@@cornflakebutsilly Yea I know its crazy But that's the only way for fair competition with Robin, the queen of 0c imo. Every 0c video nowadays always have Robin and she makes it easier for every comp, not just this one.
Why are you using basic with jq on a sparkle team lol
Dont come back when a hunt/destruction unit comes out that eats all your sp for damage and power creep everyone dont come back when sparflop becomes tier 0 dont comenack when sparflop become a emanator stay on that side 😂
When
@@rezaabiyoso1855 version 4.0 trust 🙏🙏
Even if that dud happen I got my boy gallagher the best sp generator in the game
No ruan mid on sight makes me giggle
Lmaooo
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