Warframe? Didn't the kids try really hard to murder that autistic kid? Should double check if all or some au kids don't understand emotions. It would suck if took away something you wasn't supposed to. I just assumed this particular autistic kid that was being murdered by the other kids didn't understand emotion and It was most likely not representation of every autistic kid ever.
sir your video triggered me. it bothered me how often you were walking away from valuable loot when you had plenty of opportunity to pick those things up.
Once again, the formula: - Reveal crappy product - It gets fan backlash - Insult the fans - “Don’t like it don’t buy it” - Watch as the product flops - Blame fans for game not selling - Studio Closes This is The Way 🙂↕️
"Concord was largely considered a flop." $400 million and 8 years of development for dismal player counts, shut down after 3 weeks, and all purchases refunded. That's not "largely considered a flop". That's _objectively_ a staggeringly massive flop.
@@qu1253 Fair point. I misremembered. And in the further interest of fairness, apparently the $400 million budget claim was from an unnamed alleged Concord developer and its legitimacy has been questioned by some in the industry. But just as the difference between 2 and 3 weeks is ultimately trivial, so is the actual budget. The fact that they refunded all purchases, and therefore made $0, makes it objectively a flop no matter what the budget was.
If watching a teaser trailer for a "super hype" new game, shrugging apathetically, and moving on with my life never looking at that game again is considered "pushing back", then I am Sisyphus incarnate.
So I go to the grocery store. Buying some eggs. I check a carton of eggs as I grab them and I noticed three of the eggs are cracked. I put them back on the shelf. I don’t buy those eggs. I opened another and all the eggs are in good shape. I buy them. Such a simple concept. Consumers want to buy something that is not broken. I did not break the eggs.
Now imagine the carton of broken eggs also had hateful speech toward you written all over it, and when you didn't buy it a legion of grocery store employees as well as random other shoppers started coming at you with torches and pitchforks for DARING to make that decision. Then you'll have modern western media!
I don't want to see anyone fail. But I'm tired of having fringe viewpoints shoved down my throat and then when I complain I'm called a chud, incel, etc. Games are suppose to be about entertainment and fun not about "the message" and until devs and game companies relearn this I'm not buying their 💩.
I wish these people would keep Hi-Fi Rush out of their mouths, it was doomed from the beginning with XBox having zero faith in its success, the people in the big chairs decided to shutter the studio before the game even released When it did come out and ended up successful and insanely popular, the higher-ups still didn’t care and decided that because they wouldn’t see a return on investment for a sequel until a couple years later they shut the studio down The entire thing is corporate bullshit and executives hating money
Not to mention, the fact that the game was available on game pass day 1, the xbox game pass can offer some great deals for us to play games at minimum cost, but from a corporate perspective it may not bring that much revenue, specially if we take into account the fact that not many people are going to sign a subscription to play one game or maintain that subscription for longer periods of time. Hi-fi rush is an awesome game, but if they were expecting to get loads of money with a strategy like that one, then they are to blame for having such a high expectation in the first place. Also, a game does not need to be a gold mine in order to be successful, but this is something that the gaming industry never learns.
The funniest thing to me is the investors behind games studios work off of presumptions of sales projections. Fortune tellers have been known to be selling snake oil for a long long time.
All I’m going to say is, if fable or oblivion remake is bad, I’m not buying either. Nostalgia can’t make me do anything. Not when I have the original games and consoles to play them on. It’s like they hate money. And I have a feeling Bethesda is going to destroy oblivion by taking everything out like spell crafting to hide how much shit they took of Skyrim
Games media has a issue of being too close to the game developers instead of the players. They just often feel like a 2nd pr team for game devs and publishers.
Thats because media has not been objective since the early 2000's. Access media, paid for soonsored articles, no accountability, and allowing politics to shape a narrative have all lead in this direction. Its a shame but not a shocker.
That's because they are exactly that more often than not, in practice, and that has been the case since the dawn of video game hobbyism itself. Collusion between critic and industry is as old as the modern press itself. There are 19th century business ads with bought-out reviews for all manner of things including the origin of the ubiquitous "Snake-Oil salesman"; aka, charlatanry. Charlatans, far more often than not, ran their scam by simply colluding with media-press figures by buying out their opinions and printing fake testimonials. Of course, once people catch onto the sham, the market self-corrects and anyone pulling that crap sees less and less efficacy...for a time anyway. ("There's a sucker born every minute" is true; nobody is born all-knowing.)
Problem is if the journos don't stay close to the makers of the products, they get access revoked for review material, while others who do suck the game makers dicks will get access which means they publish first which means the ethical ones who remain neutral or critical get buried. Nothing short of some sort of legal enforcement keeping journos from getting too close to the source will suffice to solve that conundrum
Nah. If they were doing that they would be writing about games at least and not about their stupid agenda shite nobody gives a crap about! I wanted this people off the grid for some years and now they're about to do it themselves.
These devs literally hire " consultants " that openly say they want to " burn the games industry down ", they're getting exactly what they're supporting.
“People purposely misunderstanding” is rampant in all parts of life atm. In the entertainment, social, and political landscapes, people refuse to be honest because then they’d be faced with the truth that they’re part of the problem and would no longer be able to sit atop their high horse, and they’d actually have to put forth effort to change. Change is hard. Admitting you’re wrong and part of the problem is harder. These types of people take the “path of least resistance” and place the burden of change on everyone else. Placing blame on others takes minimal effort and will even net you a plethora of “allies” that pat you on your head for saying the right things rather than challenging the inconsistencies of ideologies within all spheres of life.
Once people get comfortable with a job, they feel entitled to that job, whether they continue to do it well or not. The same thing goes for people with lots of experience or certifications. This is why savvy businesses these days are hiring for soft skills over experience. You can’t easily or cheaply train someone to have integrity or be organized, but you can easily train someone to input data in a computer.
My man, you didnt buy something that was not meant for you WOW YOU REALLY SHOWED THEM 😂 Do you feel proud when you're not buying tampons and lipsticks too? Once you stop being insecure, the world will feel a lot less hostile to us, men, i promise
I'm saving the money to put in the next guys pocket. I put together a rig just to play Elden Ring, I wish there were more devs that understood how to make a digital megalith.
I would argue the auto industry has been doing this for 20+ years. People in the US, for the most part, don't want giant and impractical SUVs and trucks. But through advertising about as subtle as a shovel to the face, we were told that is what we should buy. And then you have companies like Ford that just straight up stop selling sedans right when they are super popular all because their profit margins are lower.
Stop giving an important role to people whose work is still less than mediocre at best. They may work there, but they are simply not ready to be in control or direct what will happen to the product because their concern is not do their job well, but push their point of view nobody asked for, which is highly unprofessional.
@@thetrav2100 Shareholders are largely uneducated on gaming. Look at all the single player, non MTX ridden successes like BG3 and Palworld. The money's there for the taking but they listen to the CEO's who tell them Multi Shooters, MTX and Current Year politics are gonna make them rich. If I'm investing thousands in stock, I'm not listening to CEO's guaranteed a bonus regardless of profit, I'm doing my own research. Morons.
I can buy a good and fun game ...or I can buy a game that lecture me on an idelogogy that promote racism, sexism and add to that a DEI studio that hate my guts... Well I'm dumb so I bought the good and fun game.
@@RaskaTheFurry of cours it exists. Same as racism and white supremacy. Its just that DEI is a little bit more sensitive topic. I think that the word DEI also has no real meaning tho, since people abuse it more than I abuse my sleep schedule. But if you create a character whos personality is being gay, and use it as some goofy plot armor! DEI my friend. Its also bad writing to an extend, but not really since its used with an intention. Not to write a good character, instead a character that fills in certain political boxes.
If you say so. But to me, it's a simple thing; a game is uninteresting to me, I don't buy it. A game is bad, I don't buy it. The devs treat customers poorly, I'm not buying it.
Absolutely. I don't have much time to play games and I'm sure as hell don't have that much money either, so make it count, make it worth my penny, my times.
The way games media have tried to rewrite the history of the sweet baby inc controversy, constantly leaving out the malicious actions of the staff members of the company, explains why no one takes them seriously anymore
@@mramisuzuki6962 did we win GG1? I thought the outcome was every gaming site/magazine started hiring unqualified femal activists wich criticised big studios for not beeing diverse and modern enough, wich led to, again hiring of unqualified activists. So Gamergate 1 led to downfall of western gaming we are experiencing now. Thats at least how i see it.
Customer: "I don't like this in my games" Industry/media: "If you don't like it, don't buy it" Customer: "Ok" Industry/Media: "It's the fault of far-right trolls and "chuds" that our game didn't sell, they did this to us." If the stuff they are cramming into every aspect of games had any market whatsoever, the game would have sold. Full stop. If Veilguard had an audience, they would have bought it. Same with Concord. People saying "I don't want this" and calling out propagandistic content don't stop the people that would want this from buying it. In fact, the dialogue on it would be free advertisement for the "modern audience". If, that is, a modern audience existed. It doesn't. I hope the people that pushed this crap feel comforted by the fact that their still employed executives got that ESG grant money while they, themselves head to the unemployment office.
To be fair, Veilguard did sell reasonably well for the product that it is. It's just the product they released and what they wished for were two entirely different things.
Something I noticed regarding their coverage of Black Myth Wukong was since they couldn't use racism as a way to demonize the developers, since the game is heavily influenced by the chinese culture and made by people from that culture, they instead latch onto the sexism argument. They are doing anything to desperately demonize people more successful than them and frankly its gross.
They couldn’t use racism? All they’ve used are the same racist tactics that mainstream media has been using on their reports on China. Big sale numbers? Dismiss it just by saying it’s mainly Chinese, as if Chinese gamers just don’t matter. Even the sexist arguments they used are mainly poorly translated texts that they claim is sexual harassment because they know most people can’t speak Mandarin, just like how mainstream media frames statements from Chinese leaders outside of context or given a poor literal translation to make China seems more sinister.
The mention of special attention for layoffs reminded me of my job. At the end of 2023, entire shifts in multiple rooms were laid off, all the way up to the supervisors, at my manufacturing job. I'm sure at least 100 people were out of a job, but I don't remember it being mentioned even in the local news. Meanwhile, game journos are reporting on 6 people being laid off at smaller studios.
Journalists: "IT RUBS THE PROPAGANDA ON IT'S SKIN OR ELSE IT GET'S THE HOSE AGAIN!"("Silence of the Lambs" reference) Gamers: "I'm not buying that shit. You're crazy." KEKW! How could you punish journalists like that? They might lose their "Feminist"-card.
When I was a teen, I busted my ass off on a new job I started. My clothes were drenched in sweat and my back sore in that first week. In the end I was still fired because THE CUSTOMER, the guy who pays my boss and that boss in turn pays me, didn't like my work, so I was let go. Things are different now, but you get the point. I'm blue collar and I understand the relationship between me getting paid and the customer being satisfied irrespective of whether I work hard or not, but somehow those HIGHLY EDUCATED developers aren't able to? That is bullshit!
Because to them, the customer is the investor money like Blackrock, Vanguard etc. They see it as getting free money so who cares what the gamers think. Except that money is really just a cheap loan, and loans need to be paid back and to do that you have to SELL your product. Just like Hollywierd, studios forgot who really pays their bills.
Just remember; education =/= wisdom. Someone can be a university graduate with a PhD and still be dumb as a rock when it comes to knowing how and when to apply their expertise and when to keep their mouth shut, be humble, and listen to those who may have wisdom to share.
I'm a trans person in real life, and I'm not even allowed to criticize how the AAA industry writes characters and stories to represent me. The response has ranged anywhere from "You're self loathing," to "You aren't a real trans person." I want to sympathize with struggling video game publishers, but its impossible when they can't handle criticism from the very people they are misrepresenting.
Not to be a dick, but this, by far, is the most amusing part if the whole agenda. People who should have every say in this whole debacle are ostracized because their not following the regime to the letter. Wokeness, LGBTQ+, feminism and generally all leftist ideals are all gonna crumble to nothing because supporters of these things don't actually have the tolerance they claim to have. If anything, it's been moderates (most of American voters) that have been doing all the tolerating these past ten years.
As long as the gaming industry insists on treating gamers' legitimate concerns as "conspiratorial nonsense", then they should brace themselves for an even shittier 2025 and 2026. I mean, I can continue to not buy AAA games forever, but how long can the industry continue not selling them?
@@samuel5591 Yup. Been engrossed in DayZ, Civ5, Skyrim, FO4, Baldur's Gate, FFXIV, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk... and a bunch of stuff been sitting in my steam list for years waiting for me to catch up. I could play good stuff for the next 10 years without buying a new game.
My steam and gog libraries are quite big with lots of stuff i havent played yet. I can go years without buying New games and be fine. Can they go years without selling?
It's also only going to get easier. People are already capitalizing on the massive hole the AAA industry has been working on for the last several years. Imagine how easy it'll be when each AAA has a AA clone producing the gameplay people want without all the extra fat.
Unlike the Canadian government, I'm not in a position to fund false economies: I reserve my disposable income for games I want to actually play, that's all. If no one is buying your games, then your games are obviously not good and perhaps you're in the wrong line of work. This is like the gamer version of Kitchen Nightmares where people don't go to restaurants and the owners reach out to Gordon Ramsey. They are told it's because their food is shit and they chase customers away by yelling at them, yet they are in denial and blame the customers anyway. Then they go out of business. Free market 101: give your customers what they want or someone else will.
@@killerdude151 These people dont even realize they are fighting an unwinable battle and keep wasting money for nothing. We literally have to do nothing to win.
@@YanDaMan263even if I somehow lost access to my backlog I'd just double down on reading books until a good game comes out. We are not their captive audience.
"In March, harassment toward a small consultancy company called Sweet Baby Inc. reached new heights as bad actors organized through Discords, Steam forums and other online spaces. Branding themselves as Gamergate 2.0" - aka. writing history new 2.0 This whole debacle started when employees of this "small consultancy company" (which takes millions for their consultations) tried to deplatform a Steam group and harass the creator of said steam group also trying to permanently ban his steam account in the process, just because he wanted to keep track of games that where made by said consultancy company. Obviously that didn't go over well with people and this whole thing kicked loose which was then dubbed by, not the supposed aggressors, but the "victims" as gamergate 2.0. at least that's my recollection of events.
A lot of attention to SBI came about from their CEO presentation telling developers to 'terrify' their HR department if they didn't get on board with hiring them (for MILLIONS). SBI are nothing more than grifters trying to bully and intimidate companies via fear of twitter cancel culture. And they had the audacity to try and play victim. Fuck them and everyone like them. They are a huge part of the problem and the sooner the industry is rid of them, the better off gaming will be.
Which by the way tells you that they knew what they were doing. Why wouldn't you want someone to make a list of all the games you worked on? Unless, of course, there was some kind of problem with those games?
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese Exactly. The company's been a thing since 2018, but no one knew they even existed until the steam group incident. Makes you think that they were purposefully trying to hide themselves from the general public and lashed out because they'd been spotted.
You just figured out how to spot corruption. Congratulations. When you see a decline in services, paired with a rise in cost to maintain said services, there is corruption. This is true in 100% of cases you find this pairing. Corruption is not limited to government. And corruption is more than just money. One can be engaged in corruption when ZERO money is involved. Corruption is corruption, no matter what it looks like.
There are multiple reasons that games fail. 1. Game companies that do not respect the game and their audience. 2. Game companies get involved with politics and agendas. And many others, but i can not list on here because i probably get flagged by youtube. I would like to see game companies stick to their roots, but i do not see that happening anytime soon.
3. .01% chance of Negative Review Bomb from gamers misunderstanding 4. ??? Tagged game (this causes platforms to not know how to recommend it, so they just don't
2 kinda just folds into 1, because let's be real...if we wanted to spend our time on reading people's political views we'd be scrolling the news sites, not booting up our gaming rig. If you want to actually sell your wares you need to be peddling something people actually want to buy. That's been a basic truth for as long as trade and bartering has been a thing. Thousands of years ago, dawn of civilization levels of old.
Yeah, movies and TV shows, just look at the modern state of franchises like Star Wars and Star Trek, every time the response to criticism from the entertainment industry is to call the consumers bigots.
It’s funny how history seems to repeat itself. The video game industry was nearly killed in 1983 because of the sheer number of crappy games being released by big video game companies causing people to stop buying video games. Now here we are 42 years later and the same crap is happening again.
seeing the growing number of straight garbage AI games on the Playstation Store front page is seriously alarming. how many damn "Trading card game shop manager" type of dogwater games can they pump out!? holy crap, can we get any quality control in here? remember back on the Snes/N64 days when games had the "Nintendo seal of approval" for them to be sold? bring that back, stop lettig AI crap invade your store front.
Games aren't first need items, it's a luxury. You can't sell crap as luxury and expect millions of people buy it, that's how art galleries work and only a small amount of people buy their crap worldwide (and it's always to launder money). From a business perspective 2024 was simply absurd.
It's just bloated AAA. I still buy AA and lower. Most AAA are imcomplete - either bug-laden or have planned DLC. I'll just get to it when it's complete so I can sit down and go through all the content in one go. Plus, isn't there that movement of people encouraging others to buying smaller and shorter games to support sustainability? I'm technically supporting that without meaning to.
Fingers crossed for Nintendo being the guiding light just like it was back then with the NES and SNES that basically brought gaming back to its glory 🤞😁
And it's not over. I think the biggest question for 2025 is which studio will be closed first this year? Ubisoft? Obsidian? Bioware? The larger point here is that LegendaryD is dead on that we're going to see more of what happened in 2024 because many of these studios are still not listening to the players, and it won't be our fault when they fail. I won't feel bad about that at all because as LD pointed out, it will make room for new developers who are more interested in making good games instead of pushing their misplaced world views.
As someone with a professional design education, I cannot tell you enough how much I see in games in recent years complete and utter failing or ignoring of some of the most fundamental design principles, stuff that the entire field of design in any capacity is based on. Its like they hire people who have no idea what they are even doing and are in their job by being self-proclaimed instead of professionally tought. And I am not talking about indie games. AA - AAA games is where I see very questionable UI, UX and lack of QoL features. Way too many times in recent years I played a game and was completely dumbfounded by major parts of it as they clearly say that the people that worked on and and the people in charge probably don't have a professional comprehension of design. It got worse and worse over the years, from formatting issues, ignoring informative clarity, basic framing and more. Things are done more and more just... surface-level without the professional in-depth understanding and execution. (Obviously this is a topic way to large to break down properly in a youtube comment).
Yeah. Cuz they fired or chased off their experienced devs who were hired under the old meritocratic system, and brought in inexperienced and incompetent staff that only got their degrees because of DEI and only got hired because of DEI
"Its like they hire people who have no idea what they are even doing and are in their job by being self-proclaimed instead of professionally tought." - cause it's true ; )
thats what happens when you get rid of and stop hiring ppl who are skilled and tlented at making videogames and replace them with ppl who are skilled and talented at virtue signaling for woke ideological values. the entire AAA industry is now a blob of left wing lobotomites, much like our mainstream media.
Call of Duty's UI makes my eyes bleed. Everything's laid out like a streaming website, and so much space is taken up by microtransaction crap. I really miss the simple, clean menu design of the 360 era COD games. Heck, just talking about it is making me want to play one of those old COD games, but they're all unplayable on PC due to RCE exploits that Activision has never acknowledged and never attempted to fix (this seriously should warrant a lawsuit. They're selling software that could genuinely result in the user's PC getting compromised. But even if they weren't, I'm not paying the exorbitant prices Activision wants for 10+ year old games). I don't think anything compares to Sushi Squad: Kill the Justice League, though. I seriously got a headache watching footage of that game because the screen is constantly exploding with giant damage numbers and flashy colors. It's genuinely unpleasant to look at.
You are always welcome to join the industry and show everyone how it's done. If you're such an expert, you can have a shot at making your own dream game. Just get off that high horse and stop throwing shade at a whole segment of industry like it is a monolithic structure, and not thousands of people and projects, each with a unique situation and set of limits and goals. Until then you're not being constructive in criticisms, and are likely just talking about things in a context you do not grasp. Peace.
My understanding was that gamergate was never the gamers doing it. It was the journalist and developers doing it. That is still on display now in 2024 as opposed to 2014.
Funny cuz they called gamers that voiced their opinions as Gamer Gate 2. Gamers didn't call themselves that, once gaming journalists leave. The industry will be one step closer to healing.
@@HanSolo__ Oh there is plenty of money in the biz, but not for them, as they are learning the hard way. In just a few years, Ubisoft went from a 12 billion dollar titan to less than a tenth of that (as of this comment).
There are actually a couple of instances where Warframe has done this. There are a couple of quests where someone can be classified as special yet tell the most compelling stories. I think the quest you are talking about is "The Sacrifice," and I have to agree that it is one of the best quests ever. Even then, there are many ways that this DEI can be successful, if not extreme. Some of these journalists need to watch Warframe stories to understand how to include diversity well. Just the most recent update quest, "The Hex", had 6 main characters, A speedy nerd in Volt (who I think is Arab or Indian his looks match, but his accent doesn't someone can correct me idk), a medic-loyal girl, in Trinity (who is Latino), a cheery metal bender in Mag (Who is Asian), Quincy is the hitman that reminds me of Deadshot being Cyte-09 (who is black), Author is who everyone listens to because they like him ( He is white), and my favorite being his sister Eleanor (who was based on my main in Warframe), being she can't speak normally but only telepathically communicate and control/read minds (in other words, very cool a word special)
Crazy how game journalism has changed, I remember picking up game magazines back in the day, full of joy about what I was about to read, now I feel nauseated. Thank you for voicing sane commentary. *and a big kudos to the Asian game companies for keeping games real!
I'm a 3D Character Artist with over 10 years of experience working in some of the more recognisable companies in Europe. I don't wanna work on those games. I don't wanna make all those ugly, uninspired, boring, lackluster characters those studios want me to make. Most of the projects I've been a part of in all of these years have gone to shit. But I don't have a choice in it. I gotta work. I gotta make a living and there is no other choice in Europe than to work on a "sinking ship". Do you think I wouldn't want to work in Larian? Well too bad. There is just one Larian in Europe and everyone wants to work there. There is not enough good studios to work in. Everything else is pretty much garbage.
@@Bokto1 2 times I tried to start an indie project with a couple of my colleagues. Both times ended the same way. We've been overworked, some of us were too burnt out or had other life struggles. So it ended up going nowhere.
@@Bokto1yes and no Most funding and loans want to support DEI since its appealing for the current large chunk of western investors Why is it because it’s the largest amount of loan applications in the industry usually bank rolled from black rock and Chinese firms to weaken their competitors and to support some vague current good thing liberal politic So trying to escape that mold is possible from crowdfunding to smaller studios But you will fundamentally make less money and have less reach if you refuse to play ball in the current industry That’s not even factoring the reality that no one is training developers outside of DEI approved education which makes finding good talent even harder Since no one is investing in employee training unless they have too most companies hire contractors because the diploma mills are that bad
Is it actually not possible to still make them asthetic. Even if you can't make exactly what you would like, is it not possible to produce something solid?
@@jordanmeyler9239 I have no saying in almost anything I do. They give me a concept, done by a concept artist, lead artist above me feedbacks what I do, then it goes to art director and he says what's supposed to be changed or not. Sometimes those people are somewhat reasonable and you can sway a few things your way. Most of the time I just hear "Just do what I said". I'm just a cog in the machine. I'm just supposed to recreate the concept art most of the time anyways and if said concept art has ugly proportions, weird clothes, weird faces or whatever political agenda you want to represent. No matter what it is, I'm paid to recreate it. I'm not paid to have a say in it.
@@not_clever_username_here6945 yeah you’re right on that. I also like it to work at a coffee shop… I prefer coffee but if a customer orders tea, I’m not going to force them to drink my coffee because I don’t like tea.
I think my previous reply glitched, but yes, you’re right. I liken it to working at a coffee shop… If somebody orders tea from me, but I prefer to drink coffee, I don’t forcibly give them a coffee instead of the tea they ask for; that’s basically what these publishers are doing.
My favorite these days: - Publisher buys a successful game developer company. - Publisher tells them to make a game they are not good at. - Publisher micro-manages the development and rushes the game. - Publisher releases the half-done game, it doesn't meet their fantasied profit target. - Publisher shuts down the developer company entirely, a company that produced good games previously now never to exist.
Calling gamer “incel” or content creator “grifter” because they don’t like how you make games and won’t buy them is peak low IQ. Game devs will never learn.
oh look that, someone crying. You can call them what ever you want, but don’t expect people to like someone who just insult them and blows off all their criticism. If you think everyone gamer an incel and every content creator a grifter just because you don’t like what they say with no actually argument and only insult, that is peak stupidity.
@@terrnoisrp8894 Oh look, someone's triggered. Can't you read? I clearly said MOST of gamers and content creators today are incels and grifters, not "everyone". This is peak stupidity.
7:44 Tango Gameworks. Hi-fi Rush was for sure a success but the studio ended up getting shutdown. Definitely not the studio's fault. The fault lies with poor upper management in Microsoft.
It was way too easy on our part. We just didn’t buy any of those games. We saved a lot of money and we get to watch them flail and drown in their own hubris. *I see this as an absolute win.*
One thing i find odd: They never blame all the women and the trans ppl who didn´t show up to buy these games. I get that "the world is diverse" and that these games a for a diverse audience. But they never blame the ppl who these games are made for who didn´t show up, it´s always guys who get the blame.
it's also because those people aren't as common as they want everyone to believe, so even when they all "show up" to buy it, it appears as an epic flop anyways, because vast majority of people are instead normal people, the ones they continue saying "this isn't for you" to
Business managers stepped into the video game world and used their “business” experience to make more money for the developers, by following the (current) trend. What they didn’t realize is that @the video game world” doesn’t thrive on trendiness. It thrives on development companies creating a game that grasps the interest of the consumer and keeps them engaged and wanting to play the game more and/or again. If a developer is great at RPG’s, that’s what they should stick to! Alternatively, if that studio is great at making open world games….stick to that. So to sum it all up, if your brand new house falls down after you buy it, it’s not the builders fault. It’s your fault because you moved in.
Well if people stoped buying the companies product… then we could make a change. But unfortunately, we as gamers, never stand together and companies will continue to do their shady businesses as long as gamers never boycott their products
9:20 As a game developer let me say its not as easy as getting out of a bad situation! We dont have that many jobs going around right now and we have a lot of TALENTED and AMAZING people that are looking for jobs. Being an average worker, you kinda dont feel like you have a choice when you noticed bad leadership. But people do start looking for new jobs when something we dont have control keeps developing. Just my two cents! Love your work, keep it up.
who could have guessed that the journalists trying to twist a false narrative and pull the wool over the consumers eyes would be upset when the shoe is on the other foot
I'd agree with all of this but unfortunately, things aren't as easy as "make the game that the audience wants" and then all will be fine. People are going to buy all kinds of crap for some reason (just look at Call of Duty or the NBA, F1 and whatever series) year after year. The billions these games make don't automatically make them good. Also, somewhere along the line, both sides of this conflict lost the plot. Studios, journalists, "anti DEI" content creators, and even those allegedly neutral ones are happy talking about how diversity is important (or not important) or how you should stop worrying about everything else and just make a good game. Both sides are incorrect because diversity won't sell a game, being good won't sell a game. Name recognition, good marketing is going to sell games. However, the only people in this equation who truly want to sell games are the executives who have no clue HOW TO MAKE a game. They don't write articles, don't make youtube videos and nobody even knows their names. If even the developers say stupid things like "we hate money" then there's really no hope left.
It used to be the customer is always right. And sales were good. Some reason, the Customer is always racist, toxic, sexist, ect. leads to bad sales. Strange.
@verysadcatc7897 lol, my comment? Sorry if I was somehow unclear. I'm stating the journos are idiots because when things go bad, it's that gamers are bad, not the designs. It makes zero flipping sense.
Well to be fair that particular phrase/mindset: "The customer is always right" has never really been a force positive in anything. In many ways it has done more harm than good not just in gaming but in business in general.
Proud to be a part of the booming indie scene. Last year I went to a good couple of bigger industry events such as Gamescom representing the company I work for. Targeting specifically Indie for our services has had the studio I work for having their best year yet! I can't help but feel for the people laid off, its hard, it sucks and as you said its almost always down to the execs not the artists. Surprisingly a lot of the big studios still seem to be sticking it out and not changing strategies. That was reflected in what people were lining up for. A closed off demo showcase for AC: Shadows you were waiting maybe 15 minutes max. The game "The first Berserker:Khazan" people were waiting for 2+ hours including myself to get hands on with it. A lot of the popular stands and booths were coming from Chinese developers, Gatcha Wifu games. AAA booths still had traffic but the big names just didn't seem to pull the big crowds in anymore. The shift is happening quickly and honestly is a welcome change of direction as both an artist and someone who loves gaming as a whole.
The answers : 1. They chased trends instead of trying the make people happy; 2. They sacrificed game design for monetization; 3. They pushed terrible, preachy and ideology driven writing; 4. They allowed incompetent, talent-less, bitter activist to poison the well; and 5. All of which just produced bad games nobody wanted to play, let alone buy.
@@anthony_stuff does it need to be to the point of frustration to be called out and be turned off / annoyed by it ? In my view, you are buying entertainment (which can also be art and a memorable experience). The moment said entertainment robs me of the joy I paid for, I will obviously chose to invest my time and money elsewhere. Is that fair ?
@@anthony_stuff indeed, it is subjective, hence pointless to debate. It would however seem enough people were annoyed by specific ideologies for it to have a significant impact on sales, to the point of resulting in massive layoffs. It's definitely not the only reason, but it definitely did not help.
I actually wouldn't mind a hero shooter that has a campaign, and offline mode... but sadly they are just online only pvp with lots of microtranactions. So I never care for the ones we have.
11:00 >mega corporation fails to deliver the product and suffers financial consequences >journo blames capitalism of all things for suffering of the corporation What?! Baffling.
It doesn't matter the medium: Game, show, book, if you're putting the message above the story, above what people are expecting from that medium, you're always going to fail.
To admit that it was their own fault would mean having to question every aspect of their business model. They can’t do that. So much has been put into their self-righteous belief that it would tear them to the core to admit even the smallest aspect led to the failures we saw. They’ll take the ship, crew and everything down with them before they ever contemplate changing course.
It's like kitchen nightmares, Gordon asks the owners why they are losing money and they always blame the customer, then he finds they been selling "fresh frozen" and often expired products and there kitchen is a mess.
"Vote with your wallet" actually works. If no one wants your product, it's not fine to blame the customer. The customer is always right. Industry layoffs are what happens when companies misread the market and don't give customers what they want. The AAA developers have been getting away with this crap for like 10 years and people have finally had enough. It's pretty simple economics across every industry. I don't feel bad when I don't buy a Mac - I just don't want a Mac. I don't feel bad when I don't buy a AAA game because I didn't want to play it. I think we should probably fire like half the reporters too who misrepresent the trends in the industry. Let gaming go back to the indie scene, let 10 nerds make the best game they can. Go try A Short Hike, Untitled Goose Game, Tunic, and Outer Wilds. Vote with your wallet.
1983 has finally arrived again. I purchased zero AAA games in 2024. None for me, none for gifts for others. All we have to do to win is to not give money to people who hate us.
@@kenshinhimura9387 The difficulty isn't the problem for me. It's how hard it is to get decent gear. I'm only about halfway through act 2 and I'm starting to hit a brick wall with my tempest monk because the game just refuses to drop any decent gear for me. It's not just me, either. Tons of people have been complaining about how hard it is to get decent gear without trading.
@@qu1253 I used act 1 gear all the way through. Didn't seem to ever hit any walls. Melee classes will have to level up a bit more than a summon necro but you shouldn't need to keep getting better gear. Your skills should carry you. It should be hard to get decent gear. We don't want this game turning into Diablo 4 where it pukes out elite items every times you blink making the game super boring.
One of the few essays I actually remember writing in school was a second year English course. My professor set the topic as the importance of activism. This was back in 2017, when the woke movement was starting to pick up steam, and I had already seen a few of my favorite IPs get ruined, and was sick of seeing people I knew that had never thought or cared about politics or history were suddenly acting like they’ve always cared about history and politics while ranting about Trump. It was probably the best essay I’ve ever written, and my thesis was that activism does more harm for movements than good. I pointed out the long history of activism groups turning public opinion against their causes due to the extreme tactics used, their tendency to shut out anyone that doesn’t conform to the groupthink, and that most of the key figures in activist groups tend to use them as a grift for public positions or money. My ultimate point was that activism, no matter how noble the cause, always ends in one of two ways: 1 - they immediately harm their cause with extreme tactics that push normal people to their opposition. 2 - they get what they want, but the people in charge don’t want to give up the fame and wealth they gained along the way, and you end up with activist groups that constantly need to keep moving the goalposts to justify their existence, which inevitably ends up pushing normal people towards their opposition. I then argued that the best way to achieve progressive ideals, is to do it naturally, and that activism will only work if the activists appear to be nothing more than peaceful folk just trying to live their lives, and dissolve their groups once they’ve achieved their goals. Less than a decade later, every point I made has been proven dozens of times over.
Bro these reporters and bloggers are straight up being paid under the table, I refuse to believe anyone is that idiotic. They're either biased or getting bribed.
The question though. Everyone is talking about the layoffs, or developers working overtime or whatever. Why should an average player (like me) care about layoffs or other work conditions? Why should i care whether some random programmer or artist whom i wont meet ever have a job or no? I can guarantee, the do not care whether i have a job, the don't care whether people that buy their games have a job, so why we should care about them? It is a market relationship: if they have a product i like/wont I will buy it. If they don't - i wont. I wish people stop pushing empathy card in a seller- buyer relationship.
True. Idgaf about their layoffs. It’s their fault for making weird games no one wants to buy into. It’s not our fault that we didn’t buy the newest unimaginative garbage from ubisoft or EA or Sony or whatever. It’s on them. They make the changes people don’t like. They make the games the people don’t like. They listen to the journalists that don’t represent the consumer. It’s their fault and they can choke on it.
To a certain extent I agree with you... but listen... I don't care much about whether you have a job or not but I DO care if YOU get fired because YOUR BOSS got told to do so by some influencer or consultant who has no friggin idea what you do on a daily basis or how you're supposed to do it. GFX artists being replaced by generative AI is NOT going to make your games any better for the foreseeable future. VA's being replaced by AI-VA-generators will NOT make your games any better for the foreseeable future. A board of directors who thinks you can do twice as much in half the time for half the money is NOT going to make your jjob any better in the foreseeable future... but it's happening and it's happening en masse
@@AshAsmodeus Fair enough. Gotta admit, I would be upset if a developers I like and follow would use an AI generated content instead of handcrafted by actual people.
Exactly this. At the end of the day it's nothing personal, just business. Make good games and sell them at reasonable prices and people will but them, that simple. IDC about layoff or other drama within the games industry.
you should really take a good look at online forums for each game that failed for there are alot of people with bad criticism that did actually get herd, I am not saying you got influenced by these people, I am just saying that there was actually some people that got influenced to not buy a game because of that
Honestly I see it as a good thing. While painful for some, it follows a good cycle of a reduction in stagnation. Gaming companies goals stopped being to make a good game and instead to make as much money as possible with the least amount of risk. These ideas result in the same game being repurposed with new assets and new story and minimal innovation or even attempts at making anything that was different from the last generation of games. I still can't wrap my head around the whole POE and then people then getting into POE 2. it's just more of the same thing. So many games are just more of the same thing. Lastly I'd like to bring up the point that people rate the success of a game based on how long they play it... I.e. how addictive the game is to their brains and not how fun it actaully is. A good example of a really fun game that was short was Braid. Cool innovative and original mechanics and even a compelling artistic story. The game might've only been about 6 hours. That 6 hours was more memorable and satisfying than 100 hours of gameplay grinding out that next gear set... I know we do this to ourselves but the industry uses techniques that are known to cause habitual and addictive behavior.
"Gamers are not buying our games, we need to lay off 34 thousand people this year." Developers release unmarketable trash, that no one wants to play and then accosts the general public for not buying their slop. Yes, it is the gamers who are wrong.
Christ, this article is so frustrating. I think they genuinely touch on some good points in terms of economics & how it's overall effecting the industry in ways which aren't talked about nearly as much as they probably ought to be (at least by mainstream journalism avenues) - though I do think they miss some more overarching connecting points. That said, the second half of this is some of the most heinously disingenuous perpetuation of lies from media corpos in gaming from the past 2 decades. I 1000% echo your sentiments about how ENTIRELY sick I am of gamergate's re-writing is being done by these types of 'writers'. The thing that's most frustrating though is being caught between not wanting to give them any sort of engagement (as there's high likelihood of being engagement bait) & wanting to refute the litany of bold face lies being spread by this degenerative slop.
13:05 New Blood Interactive is an indie publisher. Their games include DUSK, Ultrakill, Faith, and more. The "We love you. We miss you. We hate money." is a play on one of their common marketing phrases, where they put their games at really low prices and say "We love you. We hate money." Don't lump New Blood in with the corporate pigs at Ubisoft or Sony. The billboard was both an acknowledgement and critique of the industry's financial decisions. They really do hate money.
The entitlement amongst game developers is laughable. As a business owner myself, I'd be an absolute fool to blame any one of my clients if business slows down for me. The devs that deserve to thrive will do so, and those that deserve to shut down will do so too
i read a comment the other day, i don't remember if this person was quoting someone or if it was their own words, but they said something to the effect of: "You don't have to like your customer, but you do have to respect them" and that's because at the end of the day; their paycheck is your paycheck
Dragons age my god the messaging was the opposite of subtle ...feels like a nuclear bomb of messaging and it really tarnished the game for me..well more so as the game still was not that good lol
Befor watching the video, the awnser to that first question seems like a multiple step process rather than one simple one. Studio's became greedy (most likely publishers) and began extracting as much profit as possible out of every aspect of production/launch and life time of the game. They laid off massive amounts of staff in various areas of creation leading to understaffed, overworked people working tired on a project they no longer care about due to work related stress, alot of people getting laid off were quality control/bug testing, so games released in a poor state and are negatively rated out the door. Other layed off staff were the most experienced and higher paid game designers that actual drove games to become pleasurable/immersive/fascinating products, and those that are left are trying to save their jobs or have some skin in the game so they implement as many ways to squeeze money out of consumers over actual gameplay.
0:45 What happened to gaming industry? Gaming industry finally did what our parents couldn't, losing our interest in games🤣 Thank god some devs still understand what gamers want and providing us with masterpieces💯🔥
Its very simple if studios make unfinished, poor quality, buggy, use old systems, woke, shallow, repetitive, with little content games along with greed of companies with micro transactions and lootboxes Gamers will NOT buy those games! Gamers will buy good games like BG3 with high quality, indeepth interesting stories with choises with consequences, a world that is alive and vibrant, and have a superb communication with its player base, full price content for a fair price because common people have worse economy now due to corporate greed. Thank you Larian Studios and Sven for telling the truth to the GREED corporate companies what truly matters in doing excellent games and show it is possible! ❤❤❤
2024 was kinda a mess for me. Most of the games i was excited for like Helldivers 2 and space marine 2 was done extremely well but Enshrouded, Forever Winter and some Ultra modlist for Skyrim got me enjoying my first year of gaming on my first pc that i built myself but also struggling to cope with my 51yo father passing away in march. Getting by in life despite the hardship of grief but as long i focus on the things that keeps me happy like my hobbies such as games and model kits or my family who still around but im looking forward to tons of games but im afraid im gonna have a hard time getting to some of em with Monster Hunter Wild is gonna hold me Hostage besides Mecha Break filling my satisfaction for a PvP shooter. But as someone who hates to see layoffs im not happy with Bungie current management and the way they operate as Destiny is suffering from it but oh well Warframe 1999 has my attention till monster hunter wilds releases but its funny how DEI is becoming a problem but if your looking to use DEI to cut costs what else are you cutting because Quality from AAA games is awful for the past few years
It was me. I did this.
www.twitch.tv/legendary_drops
@@LegendaryDrops I followed you. Let’s do a collab one of these days.
@@LegendaryDrops This truly is an "I am Spartacus!" moment
Destiny 2: Final Shape did great but still had significant lay offs.
Warframe? Didn't the kids try really hard to murder that autistic kid?
Should double check if all or some au kids don't understand emotions.
It would suck if took away something you wasn't supposed to.
I just assumed this particular autistic kid that was being murdered by the other kids didn't understand emotion and It was most likely not representation of every autistic kid ever.
sir your video triggered me. it bothered me how often you were walking away from valuable loot when you had plenty of opportunity to pick those things up.
Once again, the formula:
- Reveal crappy product
- It gets fan backlash
- Insult the fans
- “Don’t like it don’t buy it”
- Watch as the product flops
- Blame fans for game not selling
- Studio Closes
This is The Way 🙂↕️
tbf slop like CoD still sells well.
@@noonespecialtbhcod playerbase is like nba and fifa playerbase they dont know anything else and buy the same thing for years
@@noonespecialtbh COD Bros have been buying the same game for over 15 years. theyre an entirely different world of lost
This is the way.
@@bonewheel6071they are a different kind of breed
"Concord was largely considered a flop."
$400 million and 8 years of development for dismal player counts, shut down after 3 weeks, and all purchases refunded.
That's not "largely considered a flop". That's _objectively_ a staggeringly massive flop.
Small correction: Concord shut down in less than 2 weeks. It was live for 10 days before Sony pulled the plug.
Thats not a flop, thats not even a bomb, that's a Nuclear Devastation
Flop doesn't really convey how bad it was. It was an actual disaster of game development.
@@qu1253 Fair point. I misremembered.
And in the further interest of fairness, apparently the $400 million budget claim was from an unnamed alleged Concord developer and its legitimacy has been questioned by some in the industry.
But just as the difference between 2 and 3 weeks is ultimately trivial, so is the actual budget. The fact that they refunded all purchases, and therefore made $0, makes it objectively a flop no matter what the budget was.
Can you flop if you never even got up off the ground?
If watching a teaser trailer for a "super hype" new game, shrugging apathetically, and moving on with my life never looking at that game again is considered "pushing back", then I am Sisyphus incarnate.
One must imagine @ChrisHoppner happy, lol.
The wokeys are hearing *"KEEP EM COMING"* for about the millionth time at this point
So I go to the grocery store. Buying some eggs. I check a carton of eggs as I grab them and I noticed three of the eggs are cracked. I put them back on the shelf. I don’t buy those eggs.
I opened another and all the eggs are in good shape. I buy them.
Such a simple concept. Consumers want to buy something that is not broken.
I did not break the eggs.
B-But you are supposed to buy eggs to support the egg farmers! Don't you understand? Their jobs are at steak!
@aquapendulum lol i love that argument they try to use. the devs get paid by the studio a wage. they arent paid by the success of the game.
Now imagine the carton of broken eggs also had hateful speech toward you written all over it, and when you didn't buy it a legion of grocery store employees as well as random other shoppers started coming at you with torches and pitchforks for DARING to make that decision. Then you'll have modern western media!
@@aquapendulum mmmmmmmmm steak.
😂
I'm proud to be part of the reason western AAA is failing
Edit: This post has more thumbs than concord had players
Yep, thanks for the ego boost game devs, I did that without even trying
I don't want to see anyone fail. But I'm tired of having fringe viewpoints shoved down my throat and then when I complain I'm called a chud, incel, etc. Games are suppose to be about entertainment and fun not about "the message" and until devs and game companies relearn this I'm not buying their 💩.
Activists wanted to burn the games industry to the ground. We burned their jobs instead.
Hear hear, brother!
Lmfao, I want to agree with you, but I hate giving my money to China.
I wish these people would keep Hi-Fi Rush out of their mouths, it was doomed from the beginning with XBox having zero faith in its success, the people in the big chairs decided to shutter the studio before the game even released
When it did come out and ended up successful and insanely popular, the higher-ups still didn’t care and decided that because they wouldn’t see a return on investment for a sequel until a couple years later they shut the studio down
The entire thing is corporate bullshit and executives hating money
Not to mention, the fact that the game was available on game pass day 1, the xbox game pass can offer some great deals for us to play games at minimum cost, but from a corporate perspective it may not bring that much revenue, specially if we take into account the fact that not many people are going to sign a subscription to play one game or maintain that subscription for longer periods of time.
Hi-fi rush is an awesome game, but if they were expecting to get loads of money with a strategy like that one, then they are to blame for having such a high expectation in the first place.
Also, a game does not need to be a gold mine in order to be successful, but this is something that the gaming industry never learns.
The funniest thing to me is the investors behind games studios work off of presumptions of sales projections. Fortune tellers have been known to be selling snake oil for a long long time.
All I’m going to say is, if fable or oblivion remake is bad, I’m not buying either. Nostalgia can’t make me do anything. Not when I have the original games and consoles to play them on. It’s like they hate money. And I have a feeling Bethesda is going to destroy oblivion by taking everything out like spell crafting to hide how much shit they took of Skyrim
Games media has a issue of being too close to the game developers instead of the players. They just often feel like a 2nd pr team for game devs and publishers.
Thats because media has not been objective since the early 2000's. Access media, paid for soonsored articles, no accountability, and allowing politics to shape a narrative have all lead in this direction.
Its a shame but not a shocker.
cause they are ; )
That's because they are exactly that more often than not, in practice, and that has been the case since the dawn of video game hobbyism itself. Collusion between critic and industry is as old as the modern press itself.
There are 19th century business ads with bought-out reviews for all manner of things including the origin of the ubiquitous "Snake-Oil salesman"; aka, charlatanry. Charlatans, far more often than not, ran their scam by simply colluding with media-press figures by buying out their opinions and printing fake testimonials.
Of course, once people catch onto the sham, the market self-corrects and anyone pulling that crap sees less and less efficacy...for a time anyway. ("There's a sucker born every minute" is true; nobody is born all-knowing.)
Problem is if the journos don't stay close to the makers of the products, they get access revoked for review material, while others who do suck the game makers dicks will get access which means they publish first which means the ethical ones who remain neutral or critical get buried.
Nothing short of some sort of legal enforcement keeping journos from getting too close to the source will suffice to solve that conundrum
Nah. If they were doing that they would be writing about games at least and not about their stupid agenda shite nobody gives a crap about! I wanted this people off the grid for some years and now they're about to do it themselves.
These devs literally hire " consultants " that openly say they want to " burn the games industry down ", they're getting exactly what they're supporting.
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Crazy that normal ppl have to work 9 to 5 while consultants get paid to make games worse
Blackrock really out here shelling out the big bucks just so consultancy companies can go “make it gayer and blacker, more womxn too.”
@@helloenemy
Don't forget vanguard and state street and any other name brand you know of
Literally this. Why would you buy something made by someone that hates your guts?
“People purposely misunderstanding” is rampant in all parts of life atm. In the entertainment, social, and political landscapes, people refuse to be honest because then they’d be faced with the truth that they’re part of the problem and would no longer be able to sit atop their high horse, and they’d actually have to put forth effort to change. Change is hard. Admitting you’re wrong and part of the problem is harder. These types of people take the “path of least resistance” and place the burden of change on everyone else. Placing blame on others takes minimal effort and will even net you a plethora of “allies” that pat you on your head for saying the right things rather than challenging the inconsistencies of ideologies within all spheres of life.
That.... Actually makes a lot of sense.
Yep, that's almost everyone in general.
We all one way or another.
We're reaching levels of widespread narcissism that are untenable and a correction is on its way.
This really sums the whole thing up nicely. Great comment.
Once people get comfortable with a job, they feel entitled to that job, whether they continue to do it well or not. The same thing goes for people with lots of experience or certifications. This is why savvy businesses these days are hiring for soft skills over experience. You can’t easily or cheaply train someone to have integrity or be organized, but you can easily train someone to input data in a computer.
When they say "Is not for you" and "don't like it don't buy it" I just followed their advices
My man, you didnt buy something that was not meant for you WOW YOU REALLY SHOWED THEM 😂
Do you feel proud when you're not buying tampons and lipsticks too?
Once you stop being insecure, the world will feel a lot less hostile to us, men, i promise
"Wait a minute, I'm not the target audience"
I'm saving the money to put in the next guys pocket.
I put together a rig just to play Elden Ring, I wish there were more devs that understood how to make a digital megalith.
The way gaming Companys & even "gaming journalist" feel so entitled to peoples money. No questions just consume.
Good get out of here go pick up golf or something
It was me, Barry. I convinced Firewalk Studios to sell for $40 in a market of free-to-plays and to design aesthetically unappealing heroes.
o7 good work! keep it up!
Bazza…come on man! Do better!
😂😂😂
Barryyyyyy, you assholeeeee
🤣🤣🤣
I love when voting with your wallet works.
Now if we could only convince the sports game crowd to join us…
They like sport games. They are beyond saving.
Imagine, just imagine if NBA 2k 24 had the same microtransaction philosophy as GGG, they'd just freaking print money.
Lol sport game fans
They're gambling addicts that the governments failed to help they're sadly beyond hope :(
and the Paradox crowd.
I ruined games in 2024 and I'm going to keep doing it. Send me a check and I'll spare your studio.
What if it comes on condition that you have to play their games and pretend to enjoy doing it?
@@ns7495 Not a problem, because they are in no position to make demands.
Based
Other tham money what if they send you a game (good game) with no DIE propaganda. Because i don't see they have some money left.
@@4N4NG_R4B0i expect to be paid equal to sweet baby. Wat is this wage discrimination?
Yes, it was me, I ruined 2024.
It was this guy, I saw him do it.
What a f'kin legend!
Insert "I do my part!" meme
Why did you do it?? Happy now??😆
I do my part
This is the only market where the customers are blamed for not buying products they don't like.
movies have been playing this card since 2016
I would argue the auto industry has been doing this for 20+ years. People in the US, for the most part, don't want giant and impractical SUVs and trucks. But through advertising about as subtle as a shovel to the face, we were told that is what we should buy. And then you have companies like Ford that just straight up stop selling sedans right when they are super popular all because their profit margins are lower.
Stop hiring people that hate your customers. Simple as.
The HR ladies that make the hiring decisions hate the customers the most, lol
They can't cause that's the goal... Not creativity and creation... Destruction
@racingraptor4758 Genuine entropy.
Stop giving an important role to people whose work is still less than mediocre at best. They may work there, but they are simply not ready to be in control or direct what will happen to the product because their concern is not do their job well, but push their point of view nobody asked for, which is highly unprofessional.
You're telling execs who hate you to hire people who dont???
Imagine working in an industry where your consumer is telling you exactly what they want
its so simple but... shareholders dont want what the consumers want
@@thetrav2100it's actually activists devs destroying those companies..
Egged on from the sidelines by their activist lovers in the media. But remember, gamers are the problem...
@@Euduchaus that 2
@@thetrav2100 Shareholders are largely uneducated on gaming. Look at all the single player, non MTX ridden successes like BG3 and Palworld. The money's there for the taking but they listen to the CEO's who tell them Multi Shooters, MTX and Current Year politics are gonna make them rich.
If I'm investing thousands in stock, I'm not listening to CEO's guaranteed a bonus regardless of profit, I'm doing my own research.
Morons.
0:13 My answer: because most AAA games released this year sucked. Simple as.
I can buy a good and fun game ...or I can buy a game that lecture me on an idelogogy that promote racism, sexism and add to that a DEI studio that hate my guts...
Well I'm dumb so I bought the good and fun game.
Nothing like DEI exists, its just bad writing
@@RaskaTheFurry of cours it exists. Same as racism and white supremacy. Its just that DEI is a little bit more sensitive topic. I think that the word DEI also has no real meaning tho, since people abuse it more than I abuse my sleep schedule. But if you create a character whos personality is being gay, and use it as some goofy plot armor! DEI my friend. Its also bad writing to an extend, but not really since its used with an intention. Not to write a good character, instead a character that fills in certain political boxes.
@@RobertFromEarthname 10 games that have done any of that?
@@CrimsonBladezzconcord, dusk born, dragon age veil guard… it’s too early but there’s dozens more
If you say so. But to me, it's a simple thing; a game is uninteresting to me, I don't buy it. A game is bad, I don't buy it. The devs treat customers poorly, I'm not buying it.
And thats perfectly fine. Dont need a high brow reason to not buy game.
It is the same for any product. I won't spend money on things I don't want and/or that don't interest me. Period.
Absolutely. I don't have much time to play games and I'm sure as hell don't have that much money either, so make it count, make it worth my penny, my times.
Snowflake
@@CrimsonBladezz
What an utterly idiotic remark.
The way games media have tried to rewrite the history of the sweet baby inc controversy, constantly leaving out the malicious actions of the staff members of the company, explains why no one takes them seriously anymore
It’s worked the first time with GG1 it’s funny because the gamers actually won GG1.
blackrock ceo said it himself " force behaviours " and " use buzzwords " oh and also " hire based on diversity " .
they are directly complicit to it too.
@@mostcomplicatedman8115 Yeah, a CEO. They're famously completely out of touch people (with a handful of exceptions)
@@mramisuzuki6962 did we win GG1?
I thought the outcome was every gaming site/magazine started hiring unqualified femal activists wich criticised big studios for not beeing diverse and modern enough, wich led to, again hiring of unqualified activists.
So Gamergate 1 led to downfall of western gaming we are experiencing now.
Thats at least how i see it.
"cover for the industry instead of covering what's in the industry" hit the nail on the head
Customer: "I don't like this in my games"
Industry/media: "If you don't like it, don't buy it"
Customer: "Ok"
Industry/Media: "It's the fault of far-right trolls and "chuds" that our game didn't sell, they did this to us."
If the stuff they are cramming into every aspect of games had any market whatsoever, the game would have sold. Full stop. If Veilguard had an audience, they would have bought it. Same with Concord. People saying "I don't want this" and calling out propagandistic content don't stop the people that would want this from buying it. In fact, the dialogue on it would be free advertisement for the "modern audience".
If, that is, a modern audience existed. It doesn't. I hope the people that pushed this crap feel comforted by the fact that their still employed executives got that ESG grant money while they, themselves head to the unemployment office.
Most of veilguard sales was to the old guard. Modern lol.
To be fair, Veilguard did sell reasonably well for the product that it is. It's just the product they released and what they wished for were two entirely different things.
Their only tool is scolding. You can't scold people into buying a product.
@@asmosisyup2557 veilguard sold off IP relevance. Remove dragon age from the title and you would see sales plummet even further
Nah, they're too entitled to believe they're at fault.
Something I noticed regarding their coverage of Black Myth Wukong was since they couldn't use racism as a way to demonize the developers, since the game is heavily influenced by the chinese culture and made by people from that culture, they instead latch onto the sexism argument. They are doing anything to desperately demonize people more successful than them and frankly its gross.
Then the Monkeh bonked records harder than the Giga bonk with Free Mind+ Synced clones that you do kek.
The smear campaign by journos and people like Alanah Pearce was absolutely disgusting and abhorrent, i hate them for it.
They couldn’t use racism? All they’ve used are the same racist tactics that mainstream media has been using on their reports on China. Big sale numbers? Dismiss it just by saying it’s mainly Chinese, as if Chinese gamers just don’t matter. Even the sexist arguments they used are mainly poorly translated texts that they claim is sexual harassment because they know most people can’t speak Mandarin, just like how mainstream media frames statements from Chinese leaders outside of context or given a poor literal translation to make China seems more sinister.
But also the fanbase are salty gamer-rage twats anyways, whiny that it didn't win some internet prize
They r pretty misogynist and racist. The journo lists
The mention of special attention for layoffs reminded me of my job. At the end of 2023, entire shifts in multiple rooms were laid off, all the way up to the supervisors, at my manufacturing job. I'm sure at least 100 people were out of a job, but I don't remember it being mentioned even in the local news. Meanwhile, game journos are reporting on 6 people being laid off at smaller studios.
I didn't ruin shit
You didn't, companies did
Yes you did I saw you
I saw you too. 🤭
Journalist non-gaming people corporations money etc
Journalists: "IT RUBS THE PROPAGANDA ON IT'S SKIN OR ELSE IT GET'S THE HOSE AGAIN!"("Silence of the Lambs" reference) Gamers: "I'm not buying that shit. You're crazy."
KEKW! How could you punish journalists like that? They might lose their "Feminist"-card.
When I was a teen, I busted my ass off on a new job I started. My clothes were drenched in sweat and my back sore in that first week. In the end I was still fired because THE CUSTOMER, the guy who pays my boss and that boss in turn pays me, didn't like my work, so I was let go.
Things are different now, but you get the point. I'm blue collar and I understand the relationship between me getting paid and the customer being satisfied irrespective of whether I work hard or not, but somehow those HIGHLY EDUCATED developers aren't able to? That is bullshit!
I think you're making a mistake here of thinking the cause is the developers. They don't make the decisions, those come from higher ups.
@eon6274 That’s not as true as it used to be. The failure of Concord, Veilguard, and Suicide Squad is due to the incompetent and delusional devs.
Because to them, the customer is the investor money like Blackrock, Vanguard etc. They see it as getting free money so who cares what the gamers think.
Except that money is really just a cheap loan, and loans need to be paid back and to do that you have to SELL your product.
Just like Hollywierd, studios forgot who really pays their bills.
Just remember; education =/= wisdom. Someone can be a university graduate with a PhD and still be dumb as a rock when it comes to knowing how and when to apply their expertise and when to keep their mouth shut, be humble, and listen to those who may have wisdom to share.
Have you seen vids of modern white collar businesses? They're basically adult day cares now, white collar millennials are fucking children.
I'm a trans person in real life, and I'm not even allowed to criticize how the AAA industry writes characters and stories to represent me. The response has ranged anywhere from "You're self loathing," to "You aren't a real trans person." I want to sympathize with struggling video game publishers, but its impossible when they can't handle criticism from the very people they are misrepresenting.
Not to be a dick, but this, by far, is the most amusing part if the whole agenda. People who should have every say in this whole debacle are ostracized because their not following the regime to the letter. Wokeness, LGBTQ+, feminism and generally all leftist ideals are all gonna crumble to nothing because supporters of these things don't actually have the tolerance they claim to have. If anything, it's been moderates (most of American voters) that have been doing all the tolerating these past ten years.
As long as the gaming industry insists on treating gamers' legitimate concerns as "conspiratorial nonsense", then they should brace themselves for an even shittier 2025 and 2026. I mean, I can continue to not buy AAA games forever, but how long can the industry continue not selling them?
/closes wallet
I can do this alllll day.
@@samuel5591 Yup. Been engrossed in DayZ, Civ5, Skyrim, FO4, Baldur's Gate, FFXIV, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk... and a bunch of stuff been sitting in my steam list for years waiting for me to catch up. I could play good stuff for the next 10 years without buying a new game.
“Survive to 2026” doesn’t have quite the same ring to it lol.
My steam and gog libraries are quite big with lots of stuff i havent played yet. I can go years without buying New games and be fine. Can they go years without selling?
It's also only going to get easier. People are already capitalizing on the massive hole the AAA industry has been working on for the last several years. Imagine how easy it'll be when each AAA has a AA clone producing the gameplay people want without all the extra fat.
Unlike the Canadian government, I'm not in a position to fund false economies: I reserve my disposable income for games I want to actually play, that's all. If no one is buying your games, then your games are obviously not good and perhaps you're in the wrong line of work. This is like the gamer version of Kitchen Nightmares where people don't go to restaurants and the owners reach out to Gordon Ramsey. They are told it's because their food is shit and they chase customers away by yelling at them, yet they are in denial and blame the customers anyway. Then they go out of business. Free market 101: give your customers what they want or someone else will.
I liked the analogy to Kitchen Nightmares, that's a good one
That is why dei cartel will make a law requiring u to buy or they cut ur social accounts and banks. Welcome to nato
Maybe Sven Vinke can become the games industries Gordon Ramsay 😂
They've just forgotten what a free market is, because there aren't many places where it still exists.
The whole year can be recapped with 2 acronyms, DEI and AI
How gamers didnt open their wallet for slop in 2024. Just another day for intelligent consumers then.
Basically. 🤔
I'm glad people are starting to smarten up, We really hold all the cards, we just gotta vote with our wallets.
@@killerdude151 These people dont even realize they are fighting an unwinable battle and keep wasting money for nothing. We literally have to do nothing to win.
@@YanDaMan263even if I somehow lost access to my backlog I'd just double down on reading books until a good game comes out. We are not their captive audience.
Gamers? intelligent? Good one😂
"In March, harassment toward a small consultancy company called Sweet Baby Inc. reached new heights as bad actors organized through Discords, Steam forums and other online spaces. Branding themselves as Gamergate 2.0" - aka. writing history new 2.0
This whole debacle started when employees of this "small consultancy company" (which takes millions for their consultations) tried to deplatform a Steam group and harass the creator of said steam group also trying to permanently ban his steam account in the process, just because he wanted to keep track of games that where made by said consultancy company. Obviously that didn't go over well with people and this whole thing kicked loose which was then dubbed by, not the supposed aggressors, but the "victims" as gamergate 2.0. at least that's my recollection of events.
A lot of attention to SBI came about from their CEO presentation telling developers to 'terrify' their HR department if they didn't get on board with hiring them (for MILLIONS). SBI are nothing more than grifters trying to bully and intimidate companies via fear of twitter cancel culture.
And they had the audacity to try and play victim.
Fuck them and everyone like them. They are a huge part of the problem and the sooner the industry is rid of them, the better off gaming will be.
Which by the way tells you that they knew what they were doing. Why wouldn't you want someone to make a list of all the games you worked on? Unless, of course, there was some kind of problem with those games?
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese Exactly. The company's been a thing since 2018, but no one knew they even existed until the steam group incident. Makes you think that they were purposefully trying to hide themselves from the general public and lashed out because they'd been spotted.
If you don't want backlash, don't lash.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXxWhat type of lashing do you want?
SBI: Yes
Studios act like us gamers feel as though games are a necessity. It’s not. I’ve checked out years ago and I play what I get value out of. That’s it.
AAA Price went up, quality of the product went down. Its not surprising whats going on.
You just figured out how to spot corruption. Congratulations. When you see a decline in services, paired with a rise in cost to maintain said services, there is corruption. This is true in 100% of cases you find this pairing. Corruption is not limited to government. And corruption is more than just money. One can be engaged in corruption when ZERO money is involved. Corruption is corruption, no matter what it looks like.
There are multiple reasons that games fail.
1. Game companies that do not respect the game and their audience.
2. Game companies get involved with politics and agendas.
And many others, but i can not list on here because i probably get flagged by youtube.
I would like to see game companies stick to their roots, but i do not see that happening anytime soon.
3. .01% chance of Negative Review Bomb from gamers misunderstanding
4. ??? Tagged game (this causes platforms to not know how to recommend it, so they just don't
BRock, VGuard, SStreet, Microsoft. Some investment companies that like pushing race supremacy crap.
Sometimes they play it so safe they loop back to being at risk again.
2 kinda just folds into 1, because let's be real...if we wanted to spend our time on reading people's political views we'd be scrolling the news sites, not booting up our gaming rig.
If you want to actually sell your wares you need to be peddling something people actually want to buy. That's been a basic truth for as long as trade and bartering has been a thing. Thousands of years ago, dawn of civilization levels of old.
“Politics” you mean they make a game that dares to have a female lead or have a gay person in it
Is there any other major industry that openly loathes their customer base the way the games industry does?
Yeah, movies and TV shows, just look at the modern state of franchises like Star Wars and Star Trek, every time the response to criticism from the entertainment industry is to call the consumers bigots.
@ true. I guess the whole entertainment industry is going this direction.
It’s funny how history seems to repeat itself. The video game industry was nearly killed in 1983 because of the sheer number of crappy games being released by big video game companies causing people to stop buying video games. Now here we are 42 years later and the same crap is happening again.
seeing the growing number of straight garbage AI games on the Playstation Store front page is seriously alarming. how many damn "Trading card game shop manager" type of dogwater games can they pump out!? holy crap, can we get any quality control in here?
remember back on the Snes/N64 days when games had the "Nintendo seal of approval" for them to be sold? bring that back, stop lettig AI crap invade your store front.
Games aren't first need items, it's a luxury. You can't sell crap as luxury and expect millions of people buy it, that's how art galleries work and only a small amount of people buy their crap worldwide (and it's always to launder money). From a business perspective 2024 was simply absurd.
It's just bloated AAA. I still buy AA and lower. Most AAA are imcomplete - either bug-laden or have planned DLC. I'll just get to it when it's complete so I can sit down and go through all the content in one go.
Plus, isn't there that movement of people encouraging others to buying smaller and shorter games to support sustainability? I'm technically supporting that without meaning to.
Fingers crossed for Nintendo being the guiding light just like it was back then with the NES and SNES that basically brought gaming back to its glory 🤞😁
And it's not over. I think the biggest question for 2025 is which studio will be closed first this year? Ubisoft? Obsidian? Bioware? The larger point here is that LegendaryD is dead on that we're going to see more of what happened in 2024 because many of these studios are still not listening to the players, and it won't be our fault when they fail. I won't feel bad about that at all because as LD pointed out, it will make room for new developers who are more interested in making good games instead of pushing their misplaced world views.
As someone with a professional design education, I cannot tell you enough how much I see in games in recent years complete and utter failing or ignoring of some of the most fundamental design principles, stuff that the entire field of design in any capacity is based on.
Its like they hire people who have no idea what they are even doing and are in their job by being self-proclaimed instead of professionally tought.
And I am not talking about indie games. AA - AAA games is where I see very questionable UI, UX and lack of QoL features.
Way too many times in recent years I played a game and was completely dumbfounded by major parts of it as they clearly say that the people that worked on and and the people in charge probably don't have a professional comprehension of design.
It got worse and worse over the years, from formatting issues, ignoring informative clarity, basic framing and more. Things are done more and more just... surface-level without the professional in-depth understanding and execution. (Obviously this is a topic way to large to break down properly in a youtube comment).
Yeah. Cuz they fired or chased off their experienced devs who were hired under the old meritocratic system, and brought in inexperienced and incompetent staff that only got their degrees because of DEI and only got hired because of DEI
"Its like they hire people who have no idea what they are even doing and are in their job by being self-proclaimed instead of professionally tought." - cause it's true ; )
thats what happens when you get rid of and stop hiring ppl who are skilled and tlented at making videogames and replace them with ppl who are skilled and talented at virtue signaling for woke ideological values. the entire AAA industry is now a blob of left wing lobotomites, much like our mainstream media.
Call of Duty's UI makes my eyes bleed. Everything's laid out like a streaming website, and so much space is taken up by microtransaction crap. I really miss the simple, clean menu design of the 360 era COD games. Heck, just talking about it is making me want to play one of those old COD games, but they're all unplayable on PC due to RCE exploits that Activision has never acknowledged and never attempted to fix (this seriously should warrant a lawsuit. They're selling software that could genuinely result in the user's PC getting compromised. But even if they weren't, I'm not paying the exorbitant prices Activision wants for 10+ year old games).
I don't think anything compares to Sushi Squad: Kill the Justice League, though. I seriously got a headache watching footage of that game because the screen is constantly exploding with giant damage numbers and flashy colors. It's genuinely unpleasant to look at.
You are always welcome to join the industry and show everyone how it's done. If you're such an expert, you can have a shot at making your own dream game.
Just get off that high horse and stop throwing shade at a whole segment of industry like it is a monolithic structure, and not thousands of people and projects, each with a unique situation and set of limits and goals.
Until then you're not being constructive in criticisms, and are likely just talking about things in a context you do not grasp. Peace.
My understanding was that gamergate was never the gamers doing it. It was the journalist and developers doing it. That is still on display now in 2024 as opposed to 2014.
Funny cuz they called gamers that voiced their opinions as Gamer Gate 2. Gamers didn't call themselves that, once gaming journalists leave. The industry will be one step closer to healing.
Yup. They also called us bigots, racists and every other name in the book.
They won't leave. There is too much money in the business.
@@HanSolo__
Can't really make that kind of money if you only make sh*t 😂
@@HanSolo__ Oh there is plenty of money in the biz, but not for them, as they are learning the hard way. In just a few years, Ubisoft went from a 12 billion dollar titan to less than a tenth of that (as of this comment).
These devs and “journalists” are literally, in real time, doing the whole “Cutting off your nose to spite your face”.
"literally"
Let's hope not.
@@t1glistenerelfwhy not?
@@t1glistenerelf Literally means the opposite of actually. As in a literal manner. Look up the definition.
@@Bassalicious Alright, you almost got me there. Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8.
There are actually a couple of instances where Warframe has done this. There are a couple of quests where someone can be classified as special yet tell the most compelling stories. I think the quest you are talking about is "The Sacrifice," and I have to agree that it is one of the best quests ever. Even then, there are many ways that this DEI can be successful, if not extreme. Some of these journalists need to watch Warframe stories to understand how to include diversity well. Just the most recent update quest, "The Hex", had 6 main characters, A speedy nerd in Volt (who I think is Arab or Indian his looks match, but his accent doesn't someone can correct me idk), a medic-loyal girl, in Trinity (who is Latino), a cheery metal bender in Mag (Who is Asian), Quincy is the hitman that reminds me of Deadshot being Cyte-09 (who is black), Author is who everyone listens to because they like him ( He is white), and my favorite being his sister Eleanor (who was based on my main in Warframe), being she can't speak normally but only telepathically communicate and control/read minds (in other words, very cool a word special)
Pablo’s mom has got it going on 🎵 😂
Crazy how game journalism has changed, I remember picking up game magazines back in the day, full of joy about what I was about to read, now I feel nauseated. Thank you for voicing sane commentary.
*and a big kudos to the Asian game companies for keeping games real!
I'm a 3D Character Artist with over 10 years of experience working in some of the more recognisable companies in Europe. I don't wanna work on those games. I don't wanna make all those ugly, uninspired, boring, lackluster characters those studios want me to make. Most of the projects I've been a part of in all of these years have gone to shit. But I don't have a choice in it. I gotta work. I gotta make a living and there is no other choice in Europe than to work on a "sinking ship". Do you think I wouldn't want to work in Larian? Well too bad. There is just one Larian in Europe and everyone wants to work there. There is not enough good studios to work in. Everything else is pretty much garbage.
Can you start a new studio?
@@Bokto1 2 times I tried to start an indie project with a couple of my colleagues. Both times ended the same way. We've been overworked, some of us were too burnt out or had other life struggles. So it ended up going nowhere.
@@Bokto1yes and no
Most funding and loans want to support DEI since its appealing for the current large chunk of western investors
Why is it because it’s the largest amount of loan applications in the industry usually bank rolled from black rock and Chinese firms to weaken their competitors and to support some vague current good thing liberal politic
So trying to escape that mold is possible from crowdfunding to smaller studios
But you will fundamentally make less money and have less reach if you refuse to play ball in the current industry
That’s not even factoring the reality that no one is training developers outside of DEI approved education which makes finding good talent even harder
Since no one is investing in employee training unless they have too most companies hire contractors because the diploma mills are that bad
Is it actually not possible to still make them asthetic. Even if you can't make exactly what you would like, is it not possible to produce something solid?
@@jordanmeyler9239 I have no saying in almost anything I do. They give me a concept, done by a concept artist, lead artist above me feedbacks what I do, then it goes to art director and he says what's supposed to be changed or not. Sometimes those people are somewhat reasonable and you can sway a few things your way. Most of the time I just hear "Just do what I said". I'm just a cog in the machine. I'm just supposed to recreate the concept art most of the time anyways and if said concept art has ugly proportions, weird clothes, weird faces or whatever political agenda you want to represent. No matter what it is, I'm paid to recreate it. I'm not paid to have a say in it.
Fromsoft gave employees raises, shift up (stellar blade) gave all employees a PS5 pro and bonuses. Make good game, make money, keep job.
“The customer is always right in matters of taste.”
These publishers fail to remember this.
Most people don't even know the latter half of the statement had existed lmao
But yeah, true
@@not_clever_username_here6945 yeah you’re right on that. I also like it to work at a coffee shop… I prefer coffee but if a customer orders tea, I’m not going to force them to drink my coffee because I don’t like tea.
I think my previous reply glitched, but yes, you’re right. I liken it to working at a coffee shop… If somebody orders tea from me, but I prefer to drink coffee, I don’t forcibly give them a coffee instead of the tea they ask for; that’s basically what these publishers are doing.
I’m so happy I “ruined” gaming in 2024… can’t wait to continue “ruining” it on 2025
My favorite these days:
- Publisher buys a successful game developer company.
- Publisher tells them to make a game they are not good at.
- Publisher micro-manages the development and rushes the game.
- Publisher releases the half-done game, it doesn't meet their fantasied profit target.
- Publisher shuts down the developer company entirely, a company that produced good games previously now never to exist.
Calling gamer “incel” or content creator “grifter” because they don’t like how you make games and won’t buy them is peak low IQ. Game devs will never learn.
Even though most gamers and content creators ARE that today? Sure, pal. Sure😂
oh look that, someone crying. You can call them what ever you want, but don’t expect people to like someone who just insult them and blows off all their criticism.
If you think everyone gamer an incel and every content creator a grifter just because you don’t like what they say with no actually argument and only insult, that is peak stupidity.
@@terrnoisrp8894 Oh look, someone's triggered. Can't you read? I clearly said MOST of gamers and content creators today are incels and grifters, not "everyone". This is peak stupidity.
@@terrnoisrp8894 He's a liberal. They lost hard this year.
@@terrnoisrp8894yeah take it easy on the poor guy
its an attrition war.
they keep releasing shitty games
we will keep not buying them
lets see who give up first.
The ones spending billions of dollars or the ones closing their wallets or playing games from a decade ago 🤔
7:44 Tango Gameworks. Hi-fi Rush was for sure a success but the studio ended up getting shutdown. Definitely not the studio's fault. The fault lies with poor upper management in Microsoft.
It was way too easy on our part. We just didn’t buy any of those games. We saved a lot of money and we get to watch them flail and drown in their own hubris. *I see this as an absolute win.*
100% Feels good. I have no pity for these companies.
One thing i find odd:
They never blame all the women and the trans ppl who didn´t show up to buy these games. I get that "the world is diverse" and that these games a for a diverse audience.
But they never blame the ppl who these games are made for who didn´t show up, it´s always guys who get the blame.
women and trans are not real
it's also because those people aren't as common as they want everyone to believe, so even when they all "show up" to buy it, it appears as an epic flop anyways, because vast majority of people are instead normal people, the ones they continue saying "this isn't for you" to
No way, you're telling me that the people who always play victim.....don't take accountability for their own actions!? That's crazy!
People don't want a safe space. They want you to be like them.
Business managers stepped into the video game world and used their “business” experience to make more money for the developers, by following the (current) trend. What they didn’t realize is that @the video game world” doesn’t thrive on trendiness. It thrives on development companies creating a game that grasps the interest of the consumer and keeps them engaged and wanting to play the game more and/or again. If a developer is great at RPG’s, that’s what they should stick to! Alternatively, if that studio is great at making open world games….stick to that.
So to sum it all up, if your brand new house falls down after you buy it, it’s not the builders fault. It’s your fault because you moved in.
0:41 Stay off Twitter. People blame everyone but themselves. Greed, Complacency, Un checked egos and so much more.
Gamers didn't ruin 2024, gamers tried to stop games from being ruined in 2024.
Companies ruined 2024
Just watch the video....
@@noonespecialtbh DEI and LGBTQ ruined 2024
Well if people stoped buying the companies product… then we could make a change. But unfortunately, we as gamers, never stand together and companies will continue to do their shady businesses as long as gamers never boycott their products
9:20 As a game developer let me say its not as easy as getting out of a bad situation! We dont have that many jobs going around right now and we have a lot of TALENTED and AMAZING people that are looking for jobs. Being an average worker, you kinda dont feel like you have a choice when you noticed bad leadership. But people do start looking for new jobs when something we dont have control keeps developing. Just my two cents! Love your work, keep it up.
I am not buying videogames with ugly game designs and videogames with forced gender identity socio-politics.
who could have guessed that the journalists trying to twist a false narrative and pull the wool over the consumers eyes would be upset when the shoe is on the other foot
I'd agree with all of this but unfortunately, things aren't as easy as "make the game that the audience wants" and then all will be fine. People are going to buy all kinds of crap for some reason (just look at Call of Duty or the NBA, F1 and whatever series) year after year. The billions these games make don't automatically make them good.
Also, somewhere along the line, both sides of this conflict lost the plot.
Studios, journalists, "anti DEI" content creators, and even those allegedly neutral ones are happy talking about how diversity is important (or not important) or how you should stop worrying about everything else and just make a good game. Both sides are incorrect because diversity won't sell a game, being good won't sell a game. Name recognition, good marketing is going to sell games.
However, the only people in this equation who truly want to sell games are the executives who have no clue HOW TO MAKE a game. They don't write articles, don't make youtube videos and nobody even knows their names. If even the developers say stupid things like "we hate money" then there's really no hope left.
It used to be the customer is always right. And sales were good. Some reason, the Customer is always racist, toxic, sexist, ect. leads to bad sales. Strange.
Definitely, a game journalist made this comment.
@verysadcatc7897 lol, my comment? Sorry if I was somehow unclear. I'm stating the journos are idiots because when things go bad, it's that gamers are bad, not the designs. It makes zero flipping sense.
Well to be fair that particular phrase/mindset: "The customer is always right" has never really been a force positive in anything. In many ways it has done more harm than good not just in gaming but in business in general.
@illegalalien6542 ohh, i totally agree. I'm just saying it's far healthier than ignoring your customers and insulting them.
Yes it's our fault....the fault of the customers for not buying any slop from multi billion dollar corporations
It's clearly time to change your channel name to LEGENDARY MIC DROPS because you are constantly spitting straight facts.
Proud to be a part of the booming indie scene. Last year I went to a good couple of bigger industry events such as Gamescom representing the company I work for. Targeting specifically Indie for our services has had the studio I work for having their best year yet! I can't help but feel for the people laid off, its hard, it sucks and as you said its almost always down to the execs not the artists. Surprisingly a lot of the big studios still seem to be sticking it out and not changing strategies. That was reflected in what people were lining up for. A closed off demo showcase for AC: Shadows you were waiting maybe 15 minutes max. The game "The first Berserker:Khazan" people were waiting for 2+ hours including myself to get hands on with it. A lot of the popular stands and booths were coming from Chinese developers, Gatcha Wifu games. AAA booths still had traffic but the big names just didn't seem to pull the big crowds in anymore. The shift is happening quickly and honestly is a welcome change of direction as both an artist and someone who loves gaming as a whole.
The answers : 1. They chased trends instead of trying the make people happy; 2. They sacrificed game design for monetization; 3. They pushed terrible, preachy and ideology driven writing; 4. They allowed incompetent, talent-less, bitter activist to poison the well; and 5. All of which just produced bad games nobody wanted to play, let alone buy.
6. They forgot who ultimately pays their wages.
bro wym by number 3? Personally I've never felt a game do this to me to a point of frustration
@@anthony_stuff does it need to be to the point of frustration to be called out and be turned off / annoyed by it ? In my view, you are buying entertainment (which can also be art and a memorable experience). The moment said entertainment robs me of the joy I paid for, I will obviously chose to invest my time and money elsewhere. Is that fair ?
@ but that’s extremely subjective is it not?
How is it robbing you? Specifically
@@anthony_stuff indeed, it is subjective, hence pointless to debate. It would however seem enough people were annoyed by specific ideologies for it to have a significant impact on sales, to the point of resulting in massive layoffs. It's definitely not the only reason, but it definitely did not help.
The guy who made the faker ahri skin….he got fired. The skin brought in over like 10 million dollars or something from Asia
For me its when they say Concord failed because no one wants hero shooters anymore.
I actually wouldn't mind a hero shooter that has a campaign, and offline mode... but sadly they are just online only pvp with lots of microtranactions.
So I never care for the ones we have.
Marvel Rivals proved that a lie.
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>mega corporation fails to deliver the product and suffers financial consequences
>journo blames capitalism of all things for suffering of the corporation
What?! Baffling.
It doesn't matter the medium: Game, show, book, if you're putting the message above the story, above what people are expecting from that medium, you're always going to fail.
To admit that it was their own fault would mean having to question every aspect of their business model. They can’t do that. So much has been put into their self-righteous belief that it would tear them to the core to admit even the smallest aspect led to the failures we saw. They’ll take the ship, crew and everything down with them before they ever contemplate changing course.
It's like kitchen nightmares, Gordon asks the owners why they are losing money and they always blame the customer, then he finds they been selling "fresh frozen" and often expired products and there kitchen is a mess.
"Vote with your wallet" actually works.
If no one wants your product, it's not fine to blame the customer. The customer is always right. Industry layoffs are what happens when companies misread the market and don't give customers what they want. The AAA developers have been getting away with this crap for like 10 years and people have finally had enough.
It's pretty simple economics across every industry. I don't feel bad when I don't buy a Mac - I just don't want a Mac. I don't feel bad when I don't buy a AAA game because I didn't want to play it. I think we should probably fire like half the reporters too who misrepresent the trends in the industry.
Let gaming go back to the indie scene, let 10 nerds make the best game they can. Go try A Short Hike, Untitled Goose Game, Tunic, and Outer Wilds. Vote with your wallet.
1983 has finally arrived again. I purchased zero AAA games in 2024. None for me, none for gifts for others. All we have to do to win is to not give money to people who hate us.
You didn't buy Elden Ring???? What about Elden Ring DLC? You didn't buy Path of Exiles 2?
@@kenshinhimura9387 Considering what a mess Path of Exile 2's endgame and general progression is, I'm kinda regretting my purchase right now.
@@qu1253 I haven't had any issues with progression. The game is not as difficult as people claim. I've played through with summon Necro and Barbarian.
@@kenshinhimura9387 The difficulty isn't the problem for me. It's how hard it is to get decent gear. I'm only about halfway through act 2 and I'm starting to hit a brick wall with my tempest monk because the game just refuses to drop any decent gear for me. It's not just me, either. Tons of people have been complaining about how hard it is to get decent gear without trading.
@@qu1253 I used act 1 gear all the way through. Didn't seem to ever hit any walls. Melee classes will have to level up a bit more than a summon necro but you shouldn't need to keep getting better gear. Your skills should carry you. It should be hard to get decent gear. We don't want this game turning into Diablo 4 where it pukes out elite items every times you blink making the game super boring.
One of the few essays I actually remember writing in school was a second year English course. My professor set the topic as the importance of activism. This was back in 2017, when the woke movement was starting to pick up steam, and I had already seen a few of my favorite IPs get ruined, and was sick of seeing people I knew that had never thought or cared about politics or history were suddenly acting like they’ve always cared about history and politics while ranting about Trump.
It was probably the best essay I’ve ever written, and my thesis was that activism does more harm for movements than good. I pointed out the long history of activism groups turning public opinion against their causes due to the extreme tactics used, their tendency to shut out anyone that doesn’t conform to the groupthink, and that most of the key figures in activist groups tend to use them as a grift for public positions or money.
My ultimate point was that activism, no matter how noble the cause, always ends in one of two ways: 1 - they immediately harm their cause with extreme tactics that push normal people to their opposition. 2 - they get what they want, but the people in charge don’t want to give up the fame and wealth they gained along the way, and you end up with activist groups that constantly need to keep moving the goalposts to justify their existence, which inevitably ends up pushing normal people towards their opposition. I then argued that the best way to achieve progressive ideals, is to do it naturally, and that activism will only work if the activists appear to be nothing more than peaceful folk just trying to live their lives, and dissolve their groups once they’ve achieved their goals.
Less than a decade later, every point I made has been proven dozens of times over.
I have to know... what did your professor think of the paper?
@@black_jackal_ I'm curious too.
Spot on observations.
id like to read it
@@black_jackal_ I predict the "professor" said: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Higher Education is mostly geared toward different levels of activism.
Bro these reporters and bloggers are straight up being paid under the table, I refuse to believe anyone is that idiotic. They're either biased or getting bribed.
The ideology that's responsible for these problems is so pervasive there doesn't need to be a centralized conspiracy to explain the situation.
It’s the 2nd one.
The question though. Everyone is talking about the layoffs, or developers working overtime or whatever. Why should an average player (like me) care about layoffs or other work conditions? Why should i care whether some random programmer or artist whom i wont meet ever have a job or no? I can guarantee, the do not care whether i have a job, the don't care whether people that buy their games have a job, so why we should care about them? It is a market relationship: if they have a product i like/wont I will buy it. If they don't - i wont. I wish people stop pushing empathy card in a seller- buyer relationship.
True. Idgaf about their layoffs. It’s their fault for making weird games no one wants to buy into. It’s not our fault that we didn’t buy the newest unimaginative garbage from ubisoft or EA or Sony or whatever. It’s on them. They make the changes people don’t like. They make the games the people don’t like. They listen to the journalists that don’t represent the consumer. It’s their fault and they can choke on it.
To a certain extent I agree with you... but listen... I don't care much about whether you have a job or not but I DO care if YOU get fired because YOUR BOSS got told to do so by some influencer or consultant who has no friggin idea what you do on a daily basis or how you're supposed to do it. GFX artists being replaced by generative AI is NOT going to make your games any better for the foreseeable future. VA's being replaced by AI-VA-generators will NOT make your games any better for the foreseeable future. A board of directors who thinks you can do twice as much in half the time for half the money is NOT going to make your jjob any better in the foreseeable future...
but it's happening
and it's happening en masse
@@AshAsmodeus Fair enough. Gotta admit, I would be upset if a developers I like and follow would use an AI generated content instead of handcrafted by actual people.
Exactly this. At the end of the day it's nothing personal, just business. Make good games and sell them at reasonable prices and people will but them, that simple. IDC about layoff or other drama within the games industry.
Ah yes, an online group is what stopped me from selecting games on the store and hit the purchase button. Damn, they need to be stopped.
you should really take a good look at online forums for each game that failed for there are alot of people with bad criticism that did actually get herd, I am not saying you got influenced by these people, I am just saying that there was actually some people that got influenced to not buy a game because of that
@@jannickandreasen7896 who cares though? It's a game
Honestly I see it as a good thing. While painful for some, it follows a good cycle of a reduction in stagnation. Gaming companies goals stopped being to make a good game and instead to make as much money as possible with the least amount of risk. These ideas result in the same game being repurposed with new assets and new story and minimal innovation or even attempts at making anything that was different from the last generation of games. I still can't wrap my head around the whole POE and then people then getting into POE 2. it's just more of the same thing. So many games are just more of the same thing. Lastly I'd like to bring up the point that people rate the success of a game based on how long they play it... I.e. how addictive the game is to their brains and not how fun it actaully is. A good example of a really fun game that was short was Braid. Cool innovative and original mechanics and even a compelling artistic story. The game might've only been about 6 hours. That 6 hours was more memorable and satisfying than 100 hours of gameplay grinding out that next gear set...
I know we do this to ourselves but the industry uses techniques that are known to cause habitual and addictive behavior.
"Gamers are not buying our games, we need to lay off 34 thousand people this year."
Developers release unmarketable trash, that no one wants to play and then accosts the general public for not buying their slop.
Yes, it is the gamers who are wrong.
Mockery and criticism is now abuse and harassment. Pointing out poor decisions is now an attack.
2024 was the year I finally quit the habit of gaming. I was already strapped for time, but not I'm just not interested in it.
Christ, this article is so frustrating. I think they genuinely touch on some good points in terms of economics & how it's overall effecting the industry in ways which aren't talked about nearly as much as they probably ought to be (at least by mainstream journalism avenues) - though I do think they miss some more overarching connecting points. That said, the second half of this is some of the most heinously disingenuous perpetuation of lies from media corpos in gaming from the past 2 decades. I 1000% echo your sentiments about how ENTIRELY sick I am of gamergate's re-writing is being done by these types of 'writers'. The thing that's most frustrating though is being caught between not wanting to give them any sort of engagement (as there's high likelihood of being engagement bait) & wanting to refute the litany of bold face lies being spread by this degenerative slop.
13:05 New Blood Interactive is an indie publisher. Their games include DUSK, Ultrakill, Faith, and more. The "We love you. We miss you. We hate money." is a play on one of their common marketing phrases, where they put their games at really low prices and say "We love you. We hate money."
Don't lump New Blood in with the corporate pigs at Ubisoft or Sony. The billboard was both an acknowledgement and critique of the industry's financial decisions. They really do hate money.
19:40 wasn't that the same thing they did to people who played Harry Potter?
Starting the year off swinging with a title like that xD
The entitlement amongst game developers is laughable. As a business owner myself, I'd be an absolute fool to blame any one of my clients if business slows down for me. The devs that deserve to thrive will do so, and those that deserve to shut down will do so too
i read a comment the other day, i don't remember if this person was quoting someone or if it was their own words, but they said something to the effect of: "You don't have to like your customer, but you do have to respect them"
and that's because at the end of the day; their paycheck is your paycheck
The industry ruined games in 2024, the gamers just finally had enough of it and stood up against it 😂
people say that every year. They said that in the early 2010's.
Dragons age my god the messaging was the opposite of subtle ...feels like a nuclear bomb of messaging and it really tarnished the game for me..well more so as the game still was not that good lol
Befor watching the video, the awnser to that first question seems like a multiple step process rather than one simple one.
Studio's became greedy (most likely publishers) and began extracting as much profit as possible out of every aspect of production/launch and life time of the game. They laid off massive amounts of staff in various areas of creation leading to understaffed, overworked people working tired on a project they no longer care about due to work related stress, alot of people getting laid off were quality control/bug testing, so games released in a poor state and are negatively rated out the door. Other layed off staff were the most experienced and higher paid game designers that actual drove games to become pleasurable/immersive/fascinating products, and those that are left are trying to save their jobs or have some skin in the game so they implement as many ways to squeeze money out of consumers over actual gameplay.
Of course we did. We stopped tolerating low quality trash, and started holding these companies accountable for their actions.
And yet you guys still bought trash like DD2 and CyberBUG...
"It's the customers fault they didn't buy the game"
That's a weird way of saying they made the right decision, but i'll take it.
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What happened to gaming industry?
Gaming industry finally did what our parents couldn't, losing our interest in games🤣
Thank god some devs still understand what gamers want and providing us with masterpieces💯🔥
Its very simple if studios make unfinished, poor quality, buggy, use old systems, woke, shallow, repetitive, with little content games along with greed of companies with micro transactions and lootboxes Gamers will NOT buy those games!
Gamers will buy good games like BG3 with high quality, indeepth interesting stories with choises with consequences, a world that is alive and vibrant, and have a superb communication with its player base, full price content for a fair price because common people have worse economy now due to corporate greed.
Thank you Larian Studios and Sven for telling the truth to the GREED corporate companies what truly matters in doing excellent games and show it is possible! ❤❤❤
Too bad people or "journalists" that need to hear this aren't listening to this
They’ll be out of jobs soon enough anyway. Fuck em.
2024 was kinda a mess for me. Most of the games i was excited for like Helldivers 2 and space marine 2 was done extremely well but Enshrouded, Forever Winter and some Ultra modlist for Skyrim got me enjoying my first year of gaming on my first pc that i built myself but also struggling to cope with my 51yo father passing away in march.
Getting by in life despite the hardship of grief but as long i focus on the things that keeps me happy like my hobbies such as games and model kits or my family who still around but im looking forward to tons of games but im afraid im gonna have a hard time getting to some of em with Monster Hunter Wild is gonna hold me Hostage besides Mecha Break filling my satisfaction for a PvP shooter.
But as someone who hates to see layoffs im not happy with Bungie current management and the way they operate as Destiny is suffering from it but oh well Warframe 1999 has my attention till monster hunter wilds releases but its funny how DEI is becoming a problem but if your looking to use DEI to cut costs what else are you cutting because Quality from AAA games is awful for the past few years
Glad I could do my part
They're literally doing the meme:
"Am I out of touch? No, it's the (gamers) that are wrong"
7:39 Tango Gameworks?! It was acquired later, but come on bruh, at least Google before making statements with such absolute conviction.