An amazing story. I was confirmed into the Catholic Church by Norbert Dorsey in 1991. In Ormond Beach, Fl. I haven’t heard anyone mention his name in decades.
During whole 56 minutes of this speech I was thinking of my dad. Simple explanation, he’s a son, a husband, and a father. He’s 1 person but also has 3 very different roles to play. If a human being can be triune then why even question if God can. Aren’t we made in his image?
@@TheGariego yes, and there are three very distinct persons in a Christian man that is a son, husband, and father. 1 the obedient son, 2 a faithful husband to his wife. 3 the first teacher of the knowledge of God and a comforter when children are young. How is that heresy? A child could never understand the love of a Heavenly Father without their earthly father being the first example. That’s why God placed a man as the head of his home just as Christ is head of the church. I agree that there are three very distinct persons in one God.
The Oriental Orthodox rejected the Nicean Creed, and then the Eastern Orthodox rejected that the Holy Spirit comes from the Son as well as the Father. Without God himself coming down to tell you, how are you supposed to know who is right? The churches when they split insisted that correct faith was a matter of salvation. But how can it be fair that my salvation depends on choosing a position on this issue, when I don't believe it's even possible for me to know?
It’s not fair, which is why you shouldn’t be Eastern Orthodox or Catholic. You should be Protestant, even if non denominationally. The message of the Gospel is true faith in Jesus and his sacrifice for you is sufficient for salvation. Make your best effort to determine the truth on the particulars and follow his commands and you’ll be good.
The Catholic Church was founded by Christ and so is the pillar and bulwark of truth, as Scripture says. We know what's true by her teachings, not others.
Anglican theology directs us to see the Holy Spirit as a personal stand in for Jesus, now the Christ in the here and now...personally present yet invisible - praying directly to the Father through Christ.
It is not clear from scripture that God is a Trinity of co-equal 'persons' and that is precisely why it took over 3 centuries to formulate the doctrine. The scriptural passage quoted by Professor Bruce does not prove the doctrine of the Trinity, for (1) it says that all power was _given_ to Christ (a co-equal divine 'person' doesn't need to be _given_ power) and (2) the triad mentioned is not explained. It is actually compatible with Arianism, as much as other theologies.
@@HulkRampage It’s not modalism. I’m not saying the Father switches into Jesus mode. I’m saying Jesus is emanated or begotten from the father. Jesus is God with us. This is in agreement with Catholic theology.
@@Zevelyon Oh, okay. The Father is the eternal origin of the Son. And the Father and the Son together are the eternal origin of the Holy Spirit. They are all God, but none of them confuses their persons. In CC this is well explained.
An amazing story. I was confirmed into the Catholic Church by Norbert Dorsey in 1991. In Ormond Beach, Fl. I haven’t heard anyone mention his name in decades.
God bless you
During whole 56 minutes of this speech I was thinking of my dad.
Simple explanation, he’s a son, a husband, and a father.
He’s 1 person but also has 3 very different roles to play.
If a human being can be triune then why even question if God can. Aren’t we made in his image?
This is the heresy of modalism. He is not just playing three roles: there are three distinct persons in one God.
@@TheGariego yes, and there are three very distinct persons in a Christian man that is a son, husband, and father.
1 the obedient son, 2 a faithful husband to his wife. 3 the first teacher of the knowledge of God and a comforter when children are young. How is that heresy? A child could never understand the love of a Heavenly Father without their earthly father being the first example. That’s why God placed a man as the head of his home just as Christ is head of the church.
I agree that there are three very distinct persons in one God.
The Oriental Orthodox rejected the Nicean Creed, and then the Eastern Orthodox rejected that the Holy Spirit comes from the Son as well as the Father. Without God himself coming down to tell you, how are you supposed to know who is right? The churches when they split insisted that correct faith was a matter of salvation. But how can it be fair that my salvation depends on choosing a position on this issue, when I don't believe it's even possible for me to know?
It’s not fair, which is why you shouldn’t be Eastern Orthodox or Catholic. You should be Protestant, even if non denominationally. The message of the Gospel is true faith in Jesus and his sacrifice for you is sufficient for salvation. Make your best effort to determine the truth on the particulars and follow his commands and you’ll be good.
The Catholic Church was founded by Christ and so is the pillar and bulwark of truth, as Scripture says. We know what's true by her teachings, not others.
Good point
Consubstantial...with the Father
Anglican theology directs us to see the Holy Spirit as a personal stand in for Jesus, now the Christ in the here and now...personally present yet invisible - praying directly to the Father through Christ.
I think of generation i think or Aristotle's generation and corruption
It is not clear from scripture that God is a Trinity of co-equal 'persons' and that is precisely why it took over 3 centuries to formulate the doctrine. The scriptural passage quoted by Professor Bruce does not prove the doctrine of the Trinity, for (1) it says that all power was _given_ to Christ (a co-equal divine 'person' doesn't need to be _given_ power) and (2) the triad mentioned is not explained. It is actually compatible with Arianism, as much as other theologies.
Jesus is the Father’s character/avatar in the mmorpg that is reality
Man, don't do this :/
It's modalism heresy
@@HulkRampage It’s not modalism. I’m not saying the Father switches into Jesus mode. I’m saying Jesus is emanated or begotten from the father. Jesus is God with us. This is in agreement with Catholic theology.
@@Zevelyon Oh, okay. The Father is the eternal origin of the Son. And the Father and the Son together are the eternal origin of the Holy Spirit. They are all God, but none of them confuses their persons. In CC this is well explained.
@@HulkRampage Yes, agreed.