Hi Kim - me again. The most accurate (and also efficient) way to improve at any function is to be around the parent version of that function - as it is literally the parent function's job to always be on, tirelessly, supporting the hero and protecting the child. The parent's purpose is, literally - "parenting" in the sense of being our guides for said functions. For example, as an ENTP - when people are around me, whether anybody likes it or not - they will know more Ti (truths about how things work) as a result of interacting with me. ENTPs and ESTPs improve our race's Ti, just as all the other types do the same with their parent function. "Why not the hero function?" The reason why the parent function is better in terms of "improving" or "learning" a function is because the parent function is designed to democratize, teach, and guide. (whereas the hero function is designed to blaze through any objective - to be a role model - to be looked up to). Obviously, a role model means people look up - admire it. Admiration is the furthest thing from understanding, so the hero function usually cannot teach others as it is just so much stronger than everybody else's that it usually ends up making people rethink their lives. "I never knew there was someone like that - there's no point in even trying anymore" For example, an ESFP might think they are very hard working because of their Te child that loves to task complete and check off boxes and organize things. Then they meet a Te hero, and come to the accurate understanding that their place in the world is not Te. It's something all of our child function's go through as we grow up. I, for example, had to come to the understanding that I am just not talented at bringing people together and creating harmony, no matter how much I want to do so. It's genuinely what makes me happy - as any Fe child would be - but the hero cannot blossom until the child submits to the parent. (This is why the first two functions is known as the "fully developed ego block" in russian socionics, which is simply a slightly more accurate system than mbti, as the information set is less diluted) The parent is just weak enough to be reachable to the other 6 perspectives (child, insecurity, nemesis, etc.) - but strong enough to lead and teach them. It is not unreachable like the hero. As such, know that your hero is your gateway to wealth, as it is your 99th percentile tool - your "talent" per say. Since money is just value (anytime money goes from point a to point b, it is because value was exchanged in some way, which is the Ti of how money works) You are able to ascend your monetary status by ascending your value, which first comes from understanding what your value actually is. I have a feeling you will do great things connecting our race together with this information set. You have an open mind that is also empathetic, you are constantly learning, and you are very easy / relaxing to listen to, unlike me - who is very overwhelming and can only be taken in small amounts - but that is with any wind type. Wishing you all the best!
I think being around people that share similar functions is not going to stretch our minds and get those gears going if we don't test our minds to the limit in improving our Ne and Ni the whole point of the exercise is our minds coming up with as many angles, solutions , possibilities and ideas I'm all about stretching my mind to the limit we don't get breakthroughs if we don't challenge ourselves that's my perspective and Your right about that I can only take you on a macro level lol! but then again I compartmentalize my feelings so it wouldn't phase me
@kimtopology4257 being around people that share similar functions is only half of the equation - it is the precursor. The other half is perception and intent of learning. You most definitely CAN expand your mind and perceive many more Ni and Ne perspectives through being around the parent version of the functions. If you don't have the first half, and try to only do the second half by yourself - it will still work, but just not to the same degree. I was not saying anything about your methods explained in the video. I think your methods are fine and they work and they are good intentioned, but the optimal, more accurate, faster way to improve at these functions is 1. To be around the parent version of said function so you have the opportunity to observe the patterns, strengths, and weaknesses of said parent function 2. Intent to perceive and improve and expand the information set through deep thought and analysis (this part you already have down). Was just offering a simple way to accelerate your learning, should you choose to take it, that's all. ✌️
@@kimtopology4257 lol - good thing we both know there is no such thing as a test you can take online to accurately type anybody. Most are marketing / email grabs. most people don't even know how to answer questions with brutal honesty, because it makes them feel bad. or they can misinterpret and answer by saying what they WANT to be the truth, rather than what is actually the truth All the online stuff is blegh. The fundamentals will always ring true. It's literally as simple as learning the 64 perspectives and observing which ones are firing as you are interacting with said human. Every other typing method is inferior - I'd love to be proved wrong. mbti is the absolute worst, most diluted version of royal psychology that exists today. Studying carl jung and the cognitive functions is much closer to the full truthful information set studying socionics is just a better version of mbti - it doesn't compare to learning from the big hitters themselves (freud, jung, plato, hippocrates, etc.) hope you are doing well out there - take care!
Hi Kim - me again. The most accurate (and also efficient) way to improve at any function is to be around the parent version of that function - as it is literally the parent function's job to always be on, tirelessly, supporting the hero and protecting the child. The parent's purpose is, literally - "parenting" in the sense of being our guides for said functions.
For example, as an ENTP - when people are around me, whether anybody likes it or not - they will know more Ti (truths about how things work) as a result of interacting with me. ENTPs and ESTPs improve our race's Ti, just as all the other types do the same with their parent function.
"Why not the hero function?" The reason why the parent function is better in terms of "improving" or "learning" a function is because the parent function is designed to democratize, teach, and guide. (whereas the hero function is designed to blaze through any objective - to be a role model - to be looked up to).
Obviously, a role model means people look up - admire it. Admiration is the furthest thing from understanding, so the hero function usually cannot teach others as it is just so much stronger than everybody else's that it usually ends up making people rethink their lives. "I never knew there was someone like that - there's no point in even trying anymore"
For example, an ESFP might think they are very hard working because of their Te child that loves to task complete and check off boxes and organize things. Then they meet a Te hero, and come to the accurate understanding that their place in the world is not Te. It's something all of our child function's go through as we grow up. I, for example, had to come to the understanding that I am just not talented at bringing people together and creating harmony, no matter how much I want to do so. It's genuinely what makes me happy - as any Fe child would be - but the hero cannot blossom until the child submits to the parent. (This is why the first two functions is known as the "fully developed ego block" in russian socionics, which is simply a slightly more accurate system than mbti, as the information set is less diluted)
The parent is just weak enough to be reachable to the other 6 perspectives (child, insecurity, nemesis, etc.) - but strong enough to lead and teach them. It is not unreachable like the hero.
As such, know that your hero is your gateway to wealth, as it is your 99th percentile tool - your "talent" per say.
Since money is just value (anytime money goes from point a to point b, it is because value was exchanged in some way, which is the Ti of how money works)
You are able to ascend your monetary status by ascending your value, which first comes from understanding what your value actually is.
I have a feeling you will do great things connecting our race together with this information set. You have an open mind that is also empathetic, you are constantly learning, and you are very easy / relaxing to listen to, unlike me - who is very overwhelming and can only be taken in small amounts - but that is with any wind type.
Wishing you all the best!
I think being around people that share similar functions is not going to stretch our minds and get those gears going if we don't test our minds to the limit in improving our Ne and Ni the whole point of the exercise is our minds coming up with as many angles, solutions , possibilities and ideas I'm all about stretching my mind to the limit we don't get breakthroughs if we don't challenge ourselves that's my perspective and Your right about that I can only take you on a macro level lol! but then again I compartmentalize my feelings so it wouldn't phase me
@kimtopology4257 being around people that share similar functions is only half of the equation - it is the precursor.
The other half is perception and intent of learning.
You most definitely CAN expand your mind and perceive many more Ni and Ne perspectives through being around the parent version of the functions.
If you don't have the first half, and try to only do the second half by yourself - it will still work, but just not to the same degree.
I was not saying anything about your methods explained in the video. I think your methods are fine and they work and they are good intentioned, but the optimal, more accurate, faster way to improve at these functions is
1. To be around the parent version of said function so you have the opportunity to observe the patterns, strengths, and weaknesses of said parent function
2. Intent to perceive and improve and expand the information set through deep thought and analysis (this part you already have down).
Was just offering a simple way to accelerate your learning, should you choose to take it, that's all.
✌️
@@ethanyosh www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/ILI-INTp
I have done this test couple of times and always get ILI lol!
@@kimtopology4257 lol - good thing we both know there is no such thing as a test you can take online to accurately type anybody. Most are marketing / email grabs.
most people don't even know how to answer questions with brutal honesty, because it makes them feel bad.
or they can misinterpret and answer by saying what they WANT to be the truth, rather than what is actually the truth
All the online stuff is blegh. The fundamentals will always ring true.
It's literally as simple as learning the 64 perspectives and observing which ones are firing as you are interacting with said human. Every other typing method is inferior - I'd love to be proved wrong.
mbti is the absolute worst, most diluted version of royal psychology that exists today.
Studying carl jung and the cognitive functions is much closer to the full truthful information set
studying socionics is just a better version of mbti - it doesn't compare to learning from the big hitters themselves (freud, jung, plato, hippocrates, etc.)
hope you are doing well out there - take care!