What happened to John Cantlie? In the footsteps of forgotten Isis hostage | Times Reports
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Anthony Loyd heads to Mosul to retrace the last known movements of John Cantlie, abducted by an Isis terror cell in 2012.
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I really hope he is still alive. I believe he did and said anything to stay alive as long as possible. Who can blame that? I looked at him as playing a role trying to survive.
Not necessarily...maybe he found it completely different from what the media describes.
In the end, human conflicts do not end, and each side sees itself as being right.
John was convinced that his kidnappers are right
@@superblackmarketxx Naw man. He told you up front he had a gun to his head. He knew of all the beheadings and he was trying to survive I believe but unless he comes out alive we will never know.
Yeah
@@superblackmarketxx You make a truly valid point. A point that I think a lot will not accept but regardless of how John felt we must always take into consideration that it was built on the fear of being tortured, fed propagandist lies or of being killed.
In the video's it was clear he was sick and malnourished. He was also very pale and his teeth were very bad from the non existing hygiene.
John did what he had to do to survive and anybody reading this would have done the same. Here’s hoping he’s still alive…..
Well said. 😢
Listening to the podcast, it's sad but such a good series Thanks Anthony for bringing us the podcast
This video supplements the article very well, it’s a very sad tale and you can only hope his family gets some sort of closure some day regarding his probable death.
He had converted to islam during his stay in Syria and its assumed that he died in a
British airstrike
@@zaydawde3862BS!
As ISIS fell apart I am certain John died somewhere from a air strike, or stray bullet, or ISIS just killed him when they felt the walls were closing in on them. I've always wondered where he is but he has to be dead now. RIP.
Chen 6 years since last heard of
It's best not to be "certain" about something you don't know and actually let him rest in peace if is indeed dead.
If he was alive he would've turned up by now I think.
You will say anything to if they threatened to behead you or torture you
For real
Cantlie was kidnapped, rescued, and then went back. Not smart.
I appreciate the show about this man John Cantlie but I don’t believe the question at the beginning of the show asking where his alliances stood is a fair one.
The man was fighting for his life and every time he did a story for ISIS it was a chance for him to live one day longer.
My hope is that we eventually find out what actually happened to John and see him reunited with his friends and family.
If not then hopefully a chance to find his body and the story behind his death.
I was coming to comment something similar and went ahead with the like on yours. Agree completely. I found the question distasteful
@@treycowart8006
Yes I hear you. After watching this I spent weeks thinking about this man and all the daily fear he must went through.
The only glimmer of good or of hope for this man is throughout his daily fear of death I hope he found some sort of peace in that or that he escaped or got out somehow and is living some where in this huge world of ours under an alias.
I know and understand that the likelihood of him somehow getting out is extremely slim but I do hold some hope. Or maybe one day someone can come forward and tell us where he is buried so his family can lay him to rest where they choose.
His last name is Cant Lie so i guess we should believe it all.
@War observer💯 قد يكون هذا احتمالًا على الرغم من كونه صغيرًا للغاية. أظن أنه قُتل بعد فترة وجيزة من استخدامه كصحفي. دعونا نأمل أنه مهما حدث يمكن لم شمله مع عائلته ذات يوم. أو أنهم حصلوا بطريقة ما على نهاية لهذه المأساة.
@@treycowart8006 I havent listened to this full youtube video but I did listen to the entire podcast series. So not sure how much is not said here that may be said on the podcast. I dont think its distasteful for the hosts to ask this question SIMPLY BECAUSE the US Govt thought he had turned. Others accused him of turning. I think that is the ONLY reason they bring this up. Anthony KNOWS he didnt turn and he was doing everything he could to survive. The govt probably accused him of turning hoping others would believe those words and leave this all behind and not look into it.
I spoke with John once and he was a nice guy. I don't believe he turned, rather he tried to survive.
I remember Cantlie from Fast Bikes magazine in the 90s. Cantlie Jimmi and Shake Byrne who went on to become British Superbike Champion many years in a row. How sad we don’t know what became of him.
I too remember Sonic fondly , I dont know why I thought of him just now but hoped he would make it out alive and not taking too much interest in the media wished for a happy ending to his plight. I trust there is still some hope until we learn otherwise , god speed Sonic!
Rest in peace
The poor man apparently died in anAir Strike. RIP Mr. Cantlie 🥺
Sad, but I suppose better than having your testicles set alight in a cage
@@version736ha2 airstrike burns you btw so same thing
He died by a
British airstrike
@@chanvax2111 unless you're talking about napalm, no.
@@upcomingcloudrapperluca7645wrong
Why why why do y'all keep going into dangerous places and then pleading to be rescued. It defies logic
Very insightful.
(1970-2017)
Who can ever believe he turned and had any sympathy for those isis animals.
Of course he just tried to survive, try to become their "friend" and said whatever he believed they wanted to hear.
This is a great series and podcast but it’s ruined by them clearly drawing the story out over so many parts. This is obviously a commercial decision but I fortunately frustrates the listener and ruins the impact of an otherwise great production.
Shame really
Sad. U can see his health detoriorate and he take breath after every word. I think they hold him in some cell or room gave him just enough to survive and took him out when they needed him… but after Mosul have been surrounded only fighters would have food and he starved to death somewhere in cell or airstrike bomb has fallen on him…why did he go in same place where he was captured before….
Not forgotten in my book.
John 2019 in baghouz.
Coraggioso giornalista.
Mai dimenticato.
How Iraqi army won this hospital....we can see lots of distruction of Iraqi army
Why doesn’t the British government do something
Why do you think
They cannot look after their own citizens at home!
Wooo this would have been convincing
I agree , when you have been beside a friend in captivity, and he and other people you have been held hostage have murdered so brutally, what was he to do when an opportunity was given to him to live and possibly get away alive ., I’d life to believe he is alive , but I don’t think he is, once he’s captures had to move fast to stay alive themselves I think the murdered he , , peace brother
its assumed that he died in a
British airstrike
Having a propaganda figure literally named "can't lie" is a 200iq play.
RIP !!!
Were is John Cantlie?
its assumed that he died in a
British airstrike
@@zaydawde3862He didnt convert to islam
@@cyberslumzRather, he converted to Islam
Incredible Daze
The man who sold him a bar of soap is clearly lying about not knowing if Cantlie was a captive or not.
We don’t know that. He did appear to be quite relaxed in his reporting for ISIS so maybe the man interviewed did believe that.
Hes likly still scared about talking of ISIS on camera and is watching what he says. They still have sleeper cells
5:38 it may have been a spontaneous idea to film the scene, but what he says is clearly theatralic and unconvincing and sounds like a pseudo-attempt at blaming UK. What he was really thinking about the situation is difficult to know, guessing about it is like playing 4D-chess. thus I do not find it useful to analyze this as a comment on UK/US policy. to me, the whole story of Cantlie is more that of a personal tragedy of a difficult personality.
he was a hostage... think
Poor man is dead. Some think he was in ISIS others said he was CIA
I have strong feeling that this man is goin to be released soon I have this strong feeling I wish that he really come back to his family
"strong feeling" well above any other factor is unfortunately what the hawks depend on to send decent people to the death in slavery or on the battle field because it is easy to manipulate with lies if you are not educated about a situation or don't apply critical thinking to situations though you may mean well.
You think his alive? Why would ISIS feed someone for 6 years?
He's put himself in Iraq knowing that he is in danger and the narrator asks why he isn't being rescued by his country. I'm not saying abandon him but it was his decision to put himself in harms way
Well he was kidnapped in Syria for starters, if that attitude was to prevail you would never get news out of the worlds danger spots, the gov failed him and his partner James Foley, they also failed the other UK and US hostages. Other governments did and saved their citizens
wasn't he rescued and then he went back?
@@petedoggett he was kidnapped twice then he decided to return to Syria.
@@TheIceman567 I thought he was only kidnapped one previous time before, not twice?
@@wellthissucks112 yeah then he was again in 2014.
Where is John cantlie
its assumed that he died in a
British airstrike
an Great journalist and Human who had the opurtunity to see the truth whit his own eyes in Syria
and Iraq.
Speacially the bombings of the Western coalition shocked him the most
where he himself fell victim his own. J. Cantlie died in Mosul after an Allied Airstrike .
Jihadi John??
He was beheaded off camera. It sucks because he looked like a genuine guy.
Where do you got these informations from ?
I have seen john in Las Vegas he is alive and working as a Elvis Presley impersonator
bullshit lol
JOHN CANT LIE
Play stupid games, win stupid prices
Exactly.
It’s actually not stupid at all. Journalist go to these war zone to bring light to the realities of people living them. Just as aid workers, they go to help, in distinct way, but help nevertheless. It heroic and respectable if anything.
@@kingslayer_ttf they’re stupid
You get nowhere in life without balls. Doesn't always work out, sadly.
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Is ISIS still a thing? Bruh, thats so 2010's. Old news
it was literally 3 years ago when they lost the war
🤡
Well heres the thing , they lost their territories , since 2018-2019, nowadays ISIS has no more territory to control as it had before their defeat in Baghuz, but this did not destroy the organization, nowadays ISIS is still present in Iraq and Syria and is carrying out a kind of urban warfare because of their numerous sleeper cells, In fact, at the beginning of the year, ISIS launched one of the largest attacks since their territorial lose on a prison in northern Syria in order to free jihadist prisoners, which proves that the group still has the capacity to regroup and plan large-scale attacks, even though ISIS is currently attempting to regroup in western Syria near Deir Ez Zor, where the group seems to be the most active. Then we must not forget the many ISIS franchises that have opened in West Africa and that are also very active also called ISWAP but also in Sinai, Philippines, Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan. Conclusion, we don't talk about it more than before but the group is still alive and active, and I think it is a matter of time before it gradually rebuilds itself in the Middle East especially since the withdrawal of US forces.
@Melanie Hale ty , Just to clarify, the name of the group "ISWAP" (Islamic State West African Province) is in fact the name used by their branch in Africa, otherwise the organization itself still goes by Islamic State (IS), as for example their branch in Syria and Iraq is called "ISIS" (Islamic State in Iraq and Syria) What makes the organization so complex is the fact that it has so many branches all over the world that has different names. so in the end we just end up calling them ISIS.
Are you forgetting that ISIS killed 13 US soldiers in 2021?
They're still around.
Guy went syria to create monster , monster killed the guy. Simple
wtf?
@@interestedparty7428 rumours circulated that he was an intelligence asset that helped train anti Syrian regime proxies
@@danielqmul Thanks for the translation, the OP was gobbledegook!
@@danielqmul those rumours have no truth in them!
He was killed by coalition airstrike