Thank you for making these videos. I was gifted a Penn 750ss that very difficult to crank. I decided to take apart to see if I could salvage it, using your video as a reference. All that I found was the grease had solidified. I had to run a micro screwdriver through every tooth of every gear, then scrubing them with a toothbrush. I flooded all of the bearings in reel oil and worked them back and forth. It's smooth as butter now and I am happy.
Dennis, just finished working on one today. I got it to go with a 550ss that I got in September. It’s certainly not my best looking Penn reel but it will be a great surf reel next spring! I could not get the main gear out of the side plate because the bearing was stuck so rather than taking a chance at damaging the reel I worked around it. I don’t think the reel had been serviced in quite a while. I was very impressed with the quality of the gears in this reel. I replaced the pinion bearing with a sealed bearing on my reel. My reel had a washer on top of the AR ratchet that wasn’t present on your reel. Also my reel had a chrome handle shank rather than a black one. Wish I had watched this before I serviced mine. Great video Dennis! - Chris
A very solid weight-made reel! I’m always amazed at the prices on these reels and the others in this series command on sales and auction sites. I’m also amazed at how much more use you can get out of one paper towel than I can. By the way, you are lucky with bearings! Good video Dennis.
Hi Dennis. These 650 's are really great reels, and undoubtely one of the most well regarded models from Penn. About a year ago I bought one 650ss from US, in used condition but in really good shape and I' ve been using it without any issues. A few days ago I bought another new in box from Germany and dated in the box from 28JUL1993. Btw, as I was servicing the new reel I've noticed that the crosswind gear is entirely made of brass, while in the used reel the crosswind gear is zinc w/a brass bushing. Very interesting, looks like they produced different combination of gear material at some point.. . Keep up the good work.
There are two different versions of the reel. If you have the one with the 650 stamped in the side plate and not the one with the metal badge, then you will notice the difference. I believe the 650 with the stamped case was called the 650 pro and did have the brass gearing - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Hi Dennis. It's a metal badge in the sideplate, same as the other one. There is no mention to "650 Pro" in the reel, box or papers. It's brand New and gave me some trouble to take it apart, screws were stiffened and the internals were dry, and so was the grease, but in the end the reel was perfectly serviced.
Hello Dennis, I have been reviewing your videos, great work. My goal was to see how the Pivot arm(Part 34c) is placed into that part of the assembly. I took mine apart and that piece is actually missing. I have no idea where it went. I am ordering the part. Would you please take time to make a video regarding that part of the assembly. TIA!
If you switch the handle to right side you have to have 15bl pivot right? Is there a drive screw that fits in the left side of the gear the 9a doesn’t have the correct threads. Or is it not needed?
I don't know. You can contact the folks at Mysticparts.com They sell the reverse pivot and they should know if there is a comparable screw for the 9a with the reverse thread - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Dennis, can you advise about the drag not working properly, when drag is applied it is loosening and tightening because the top capture nut is turning w drag
I will take two guesses here. The first is that your drag stack is stuck to the metal washers and it needs to be serviced or the washers replaced in order to free it up. The second would be that the cap is broken or the threads on the axle shaft ore worn and not holding the tensioner knob firmly on the axle shaft. I would inspect all three. - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Thanks for reply, The washers were out of order after checked against schematic. Good to go now. Would be great to see a video on how the different working configurations via knob turns apply to different fishing situations- or tricks of the trade - great content for us legacy reel enthusiast....
Yes - it holds the bearing in place and stabilizes the main gear. It is available through Mysticparts.com and you can order it by following the link here www.mysticparts.com/9A-650-Screw-Standard-Drive-Screw-P4950.aspx Dennis
hi can you tel me the diameter of the scrow of the main shaft full diameter Dimensions, length, diameter, step of the tooth, and brain diameter of the screw..
Thank you for making these videos. I was gifted a Penn 750ss that very difficult to crank. I decided to take apart to see if I could salvage it, using your video as a reference. All that I found was the grease had solidified. I had to run a micro screwdriver through every tooth of every gear, then scrubing them with a toothbrush. I flooded all of the bearings in reel oil and worked them back and forth. It's smooth as butter now and I am happy.
Glad to help - Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
Dennis, just finished working on one today. I got it to go with a 550ss that I got in September. It’s certainly not my best looking Penn reel but it will be a great surf reel next spring! I could not get the main gear out of the side plate because the bearing was stuck so rather than taking a chance at damaging the reel I worked around it. I don’t think the reel had been serviced in quite a while. I was very impressed with the quality of the gears in this reel. I replaced the pinion bearing with a sealed bearing on my reel. My reel had a washer on top of the AR ratchet that wasn’t present on your reel. Also my reel had a chrome handle shank rather than a black one. Wish I had watched this before I serviced mine. Great video Dennis! - Chris
Yes - there were several versions o=f the reel with different handles and a/r set ups. Best wishes on the upcoming surgery - Dennis
Thanks for the videos. I will clean my old 650 SS tomorrow.
Good luck! Good maintenance will keep that reel fishing for a long time to come - Dennis
A very solid weight-made reel! I’m always amazed at the prices on these reels and the others in this series command on sales and auction sites. I’m also amazed at how much more use you can get out of one paper towel than I can. By the way, you are lucky with bearings! Good video Dennis.
The don't all come out easily! I've had my share of frozen ones. Thanks Chris - Dennis
Hi Dennis. These 650 's are really great reels, and undoubtely one of the most well regarded models from Penn. About a year ago I bought one 650ss from US, in used condition but in really good shape and I' ve been using it without any issues. A few days ago I bought another new in box from Germany and dated in the box from 28JUL1993. Btw, as I was servicing the new reel I've noticed that the crosswind gear is entirely made of brass, while in the used reel the crosswind gear is zinc w/a brass bushing. Very interesting, looks like they produced different combination of gear material at some point.. .
Keep up the good work.
There are two different versions of the reel. If you have the one with the 650 stamped in the side plate and not the one with the metal badge, then you will notice the difference. I believe the 650 with the stamped case was called the 650 pro and did have the brass gearing - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Hi Dennis. It's a metal badge in the sideplate, same as the other one. There is no mention to "650 Pro" in the reel, box or papers. It's brand New and gave me some trouble to take it apart, screws were stiffened and the internals were dry, and so was the grease, but in the end the reel was perfectly serviced.
There's my reel. Thank you kindly.
I have 2 of these. Really appreciated the instructions Dennis. I also have 2 722SS a 710 Greenie and a 704 Greenie.
Thanks for the note - Glad to help. The series follows the same format, so this video will assist in servicing the others - Dennis
... perfect, as always... thx for sharing your skills... 👍🏼😀
I appreciate the kind words and feedback. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
Your unbelievable taught me so much
Thanks for the note. Glad to have helped - Dennis
It was the bail was bent down some its running great now thanks again!!
Glad it helped - Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
saved my butt I knocked the whole stack of drag washers on the floor thank you
YW Dan - Best wishes
Awesome Tutorial!!!!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the note - Dennis
I use barbecue lighter fluid to clean the reel components and it works well. lighter fluid dissolved the grease very well.
Good to know! I stay away from the highly flammable stuff but I may try it is I get a stubborn issue - Dennis
Hi Dennis,
A nice spinner indeed !! Thanks for the shout out, too. Will be in touch by email.
Best Wishes,
Cons
Thanks Cons - will connect. Sounds like a lot of road miles have passed since we talked - Dennis
Thanks I'll check for both!
YW
Hello Dennis, I have been reviewing your videos, great work. My goal was to see how the Pivot arm(Part 34c) is placed into that part of the assembly. I took mine apart and that piece is actually missing. I have no idea where it went. I am ordering the part. Would you please take time to make a video regarding that part of the assembly. TIA!
What reel? I don't see the 34C in the 650 SS schematic
If you switch the handle to right side you have to have 15bl pivot right? Is there a drive screw that fits in the left side of the gear the 9a doesn’t have the correct threads. Or is it not needed?
I don't know. You can contact the folks at Mysticparts.com They sell the reverse pivot and they should know if there is a comparable screw for the 9a with the reverse thread - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Dennis, can you advise about the drag not working properly, when drag is applied it is loosening and tightening because the top capture nut is turning w drag
I will take two guesses here. The first is that your drag stack is stuck to the metal washers and it needs to be serviced or the washers replaced in order to free it up. The second would be that the cap is broken or the threads on the axle shaft ore worn and not holding the tensioner knob firmly on the axle shaft. I would inspect all three. - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Thanks for reply, The washers were out of order after checked against schematic. Good to go now. Would be great to see a video on how the different working configurations via knob turns apply to different fishing situations- or tricks of the trade - great content for us legacy reel enthusiast....
what years were these reels produced?
These reels were introduced in the early to mid 1980's and were discontinued in 1992 - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Why is my penn 650ss not reeling. It seems like the gold gear (main gear) is rubbing against that top little gear.
There could be a lot of reasons. It is likely in the gear chain. Possible worn, damaged or broken teeth and any one of the gears. - Dennis
Is the 9a drive screw needed
Yes - it holds the bearing in place and stabilizes the main gear. It is available through Mysticparts.com and you can order it by following the link here www.mysticparts.com/9A-650-Screw-Standard-Drive-Screw-P4950.aspx Dennis
Do u repair these reels still?
Yes - please send a note to my email 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com for service and repair information - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle emailed thanks
What is going on when the handle hits the bail ?
The bail is probably missing the bump guard behind the bail arm. It can also be that the bail wire is bent down and needs to be trued up - Dennis
Woo-hoo!!! This is my reel-- mine is practically new--- and there appear to be desperate, lonely women on the site. Win-win!!
@Gene Well, that is very disturbing....and I was gonna give her my SS number. Sad.
hi can you tel me the diameter of the scrow of the main shaft
full diameter Dimensions, length, diameter, step of the tooth, and brain diameter of the screw..
I'm sorry, but I don't know that information. Maybe you can check with Mysticparts.com. They are the Penn Parts experts - Dennis
I would not send my reel for you to clean and grease it would be scratched up 🆙 . You need to take some classes sir .
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You do so many things wrong. I would not send a reel for you to clean or anything else .
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Why bother commenting? Troll!