This Small Archaeological Site in Canada Could Rewrite Human History
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2023
- Some say that the ancient tools and weapons made at the Sheguiandah National Historic Site of Canada predate the last ice age, over 90 centuries into antiquity. So what's so special about this little-known archaeological site? Why are archaeologists so baffled by the findings here? And what implications does it have on our history, culture, and development as a species? These questions and more are answered in this short, one-hour documentary:
Flakes From the Past
This small archaeological site in Canada could rewrite human history...
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I was an Anthropology student at McMaster University in the early 1970s. I wrote a paper on the Sheguiandah site over 50 years ago! It’s great to see how things have progressed.
This is cool!
Nice! Thanks.
I illuminate the quartzite I find with a high power flashlight, revealed ancient images
This OP is 100% able to refute the previous original comment made by an Ancient Aliens fanatic. That idiot is 1 of the right wing looney toons who think all authorities are liars who are "out to get us" and are "hiding the truth". What a bunch of crazies! I sure wish all channels would delete their idiotic comments!
Their presence makes it near impossible for us real history buffs to find the truly relevant comments, or to have a conversation. The way those morons fill up the comment sections of all history viideos is terribly unfair to the rest of us!
Whenever we see them with their bullshit ranting about scientists and archeologists we need to report them for misinformation. Every single 1 of them!
A student of Jim Anderson?
It does not rewrite history. It rewrites our understanding of history.
West Asia was named after Zeus' mistress - Europ - 600AD.. ..All Humans Are African.
people evolved in Africa, from one common ancestor, a couple hundred thousand yrs ago Over time, some people walked out of Africa and spread across the world.
The branches of the family that spent thousands of years in colder places without a lot of sun … eventually they lost much of their melanin and turned a bunch of different shades, depending on the conditions where they were.
… the king of Portugal had hired Zurara to write a biography of the king’s uncle - Infante Henrique … better known as Prince Henry the Navigator -1st major to exclusively enslave & trade continental
Writing in 1453, Zurara chronicles & glorifies Prince Henry’s voyage, a decade before. In describing resulting slave auction back in Portugal, in 1444…Zurara lumped together different-looking captives
So Zurara portrayed slavery as an improvement over freedom in Africa, where, he wrote, “They lived like beasts.” They “had no understanding of good, but only knew how to live in bestial sloth.”
Zurara’s writings were widely circulated among the elite in Portugal…& their ideas about continental Africans…led the way as human trade expanded among west Asian countries like Spain France
& England west Asian Africans [post Zeus' mistress Europ]
slave traders [military order of Christ] commissioned the invention of this sort of codified racist idea, of Black people [from south of the Sahara, Africa] 1450s
- pink-beige west Asian European Africans fashioned 1682 white in the colonies that became US
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In 1682 … the first legislative body in colonial America The Virginia House of Burgesses passed a law limiting citizenship to Europeans
- making all non-Europeans - “Negroes...” aka in English "BLACKS" as the law put it - quote, “slaves to all intents and purposes.”
the 1682 law included the first documented use in the English-speaking colonies of the word “white” [vs English European or Christian] to describe [brown to lightest pink-beige west Asian Africans aka Europeans] considered full citizens.
Racism is racial prejudice that has been incorporated into the activities and procedures of major institutions, corporations, social systems (such as those related to housing, education, and health), and other arenas of major social activity (such as politics, the media, finance, and banking)
Racism serves both to discriminate against ethnic minorities and to maintain advantages and benefits for west Asian Africans colonial government invented "White" Americans
~ descendants of mt-MRCA -- darkest brown to lightest pink-beige
All living humans descend in an unbroken line purely through their mothers, & through the mothers of those mothers, back until all lines converge on one woman -- mitochondrial eve
we became a species ranging from the darkest brown to the lightest, pink-beige, and everything in between … shades of brown with an array of yellowish and reddish tinges
not even that!... we call ''History'' the part of the past that is recorded, and written by contemporary historians... everything before that is not ''History'' but Pre-History... and is blurred by theories... that's just a theory... nothing proven or recorded... an assumption... a wish to be... the Americas were Free of humans... until the Asians invaded from the North in several waves... the turms ''indigenous'' and ''native'' are incorrect...
@@user-McGiveragreed on those two words... which is why Canada's use of the term "First Nations" makes a bit more sense, although is still a bit fuzzy... as in the first nations here that we're aware of; obviously not the first ones to have existed there.
@@user-McGiver The ignorance and expression manifest destiny of your comments are troubling and insulting to the peoples who where here first. You discount the theories expressed in the documentary then try to prove your point by expressing yet another theory. Nothing you said is scientifically proven nor relevant unless you're a published and peer reviewed scientist in this field. Which I highly doubt.
@@lazaruslong92you may be right in your words but you speak from a bitter place.
Extremely touching, we don't realise how much we owe to these ancient people, we are here because they found a way to survive and pass the exercise of survival to us.
Thx for lettings us endure complete misery and suffering. Yeah owe? More like blame. Stop having children. Why I don't have kids ? I don't want my loved ones to have to go through half the hell I have..
My forefathers came from Europe so I don't own anything to these ancient people.
In September 2021, U.S. Geological Survey researchers and an international team of scientists announced that ancient human footprints discovered in White Sands National Park were between 21,000 and 23,000 years old
Plenty of Ancient sites in the Americas blow up this "indigenous" bullshit meme.. in addition if it's so hot today, why are the seashores on this island well above today's levels??
@LAB71 Not anymore. Recently, fossils of terrestial plants inside the footprints were dated and luminescence data was collected from samples of the footprints that confirm the dates. They're 20,000 years old.
The science is clear. The mythology around Native Migrations, not so much.
@LAB71 No there isn't . A follow up study in 2023 confirmed those dates by radiocarbon dating in situ pollen.
@@user-xw4gr9kn8n yeah ... having supporting facts doesn't slow down debate. Consensus takes time.
The age of the footprints opens up new areas of research, so the "debate" is actually "We don't know how they got here, and we have no other evidence." Then we can test theories of how they could have been there so early and look for other evidence. This is a great time for archeology! We have DNA and LIDAR etc. to help us out.
Wow! As valuable as the Osidian and Obsidan trade was to the Black Sea region down to the Mediterranean region. This documentary is a true contribution to all of us, thank you.
Yeah look up Alibates Flint here in Texas. Its been found at sites up in Michigan. It is gorgeous and it shows they were advanced enough trade wise to be able to move from northern tip of Texas all the way to Michigan.
@@SamtheIrishexan in my part of the world, a archeological complex was developed due to the deep stratification of stone tools, and the fact that unique patterned tools and specific chert types were found in multiple areas. Proving the early people here were travelling or trading with people of considerable distance away.
I've found ancient points, and I've also used material out of my local area to make my own stone points.
Thanks for sharing your story.
Forgot to mention, the archeological complex is known as the Cow Head complex.
awesome ! I'm getting very interested in learning to knap. also have found many artifacts here in the northeast do you have any learning videos possible you could recommend either your own or other people's It would be greatly appreciated . Some of the materials used here in NH was quarts rhyolite and argillite there are a couple of spots known to archeologists that the people quaried thousands of years ago.
@@lifeaccordingtogizzmoroncu9721 Hello, I came across this channel some while ago and it's actually a website too that has lots of knapping materials, tools, and instructions. If you are determined, a decent set of knapping tools can be made up fairly easily too. Getting the stone suitable for knapping is the hardest part unless you live near a natural source of it, like I do 🙂. Other than this one called Hunt Primitive there is another you could search for called Paleo tracks with Donny Dust. Great source of stone point information. He dresses the part too let me mention. youtube.com/@huntprimitive9918?si=oJ1CGhD4phN9FwTV
I live on Florida Treasure Coast. The local park has an info board saying there has been 16k years of human habitation in that area
The White Sands footprints have been reliably dated to approximately 22,000 years. Humans have been in the Americas for a long time.
So, pre-Clovis.
Inaccurate methods for dating are widely used.
Facts
clovis culture is a racist myth used to rationalize war crimes. meadowcroft and dozens of other sites predate the thawing off the lesser dryas. @@UA-camr-ep5xx
I'm from Toronto, on a school class hike, the teacher walked us through a farmers field. I looked down by chance and found a spear head. It was in the Bruce peninsula. That was 50 yrs ago. Always wanted to learn the art. Never too late.
What happened to the people who made these spearheads?
@@Ofelas1 good question. Never thought of that.
Yup never too late so get at it
@@Ofelas1 drug addicts in downtown vancouver
@1 That would make a good follow-up video. He did say that the site was likely abandoned when better alternatives like iron became available for tools, meaning trade goods from white settlers. I think that I've read that few native people were living on Manitoulin Island later, but that may be after the settlers came in and cut down most of the trees. I have visited Manitoulin often and wondered what it was like before settlement. Very different, obviously.
We live in GA and find huge arrowheads, axes, spear points and even giant shark teeth on the banks of the Savannah river around Augusta (especially when the water is low) but there are many other places where the ground is littered with more recent artifacts as well. Let's work to learn all we can. Let's welcome new discoveries and not try to hide them. It's so important to know the past because it is essential for being ready for the future. Our ancestors were so much more skilled than we've been told. Each find is like a time machine. It's simply amazing to see so far back in time but we also have SO MUCH more to learn about things that happened not so long ago also. I'm excited to hear each new wrinkle in time. Great video.
The phosphate mine here in north Florida turned up a fist sized piece of mammoth ivory. The young man who found it was excited to show off his find, tho he didn't know what it was.
Only when I looked at the broken end was I able to see the growth rings, like tree rings.
The piece was the deep black associated with fossils. The truly amazing thing was how heavy it was, for being the size of my fist it weighed more than 2 kilos, nearly 5 pounds
It's quite astonishing how far people travelled. There is a very important archeological site on the Ottawa River not far from where I live which was used as a "toll station" by the people who controlled it going back thousands of years. Basically to pass, you paid a toll. That was one of their gigs. They have evidently found stone implements on that site which come from the Ohio River Valley and I believe they found artifacts in the Yukon which were traced to that site on the Ottawa River. These people travelled thousands of kilometers across some of the most forbidding land on the continent.
What tribe are you ?
I had just been watching a few videos from people who find all types of fossils and rocks, just like you said! So many bones or teeth I wouldn't have even known until he pointed out the spinal discs then I could see them everywhere, before that they just looked like rocks. Oh, and GORGEOUS country side!!
@@VillageTechnologieshi, do you know the name of the site on Ottawa River? I'd like to look it up, thanks
I love the cooperation with the indigenous people. THAT is so important. I enjoyed this video, very much!
You don't have much experience with indigenous people, do you?
@@number62 What do you mean?
can we stop saying indigenous? Its the dumbest term ever. No one is indigenous to anywhere...
@@ScottyBennitone People should be able to choose what they are called, and in Canada the word "indigenous" is one the most favored terms, along with "The First Nations". If you don't like it that's too bad.
@@cattymajiv you can call yourself that, doesnt mean its true though...
Just a few days ago, my husband found a gorgeous arrowhead in a new field of ours. We live on an old farm on 100 acres bordering a river. An archaeologist a few years ago, told us what we find is prehistoric, meaning very old. My favorite find is a little round cooking stone. They heated them in a fire, then added them to liquid to heat it. I never walk this ancient land without thinking about those who were here long ago.
shouldn't take the arrow heads you should leave them where you find them
@@brigsmith949 After talking to our state archeologist, she assured us that what we find here scattered on the river, is no longer in situ, and therefore removing them does no harm. About three miles upriver, there is a village site. It is wrong to disturb anything there as each artifact’s placement could contain clues about the inhabitants.
@@brigsmith949why?
@@karmaleenash2841 also bad luck i always throw them into the river so no one takes them from where they rest. guy on the same river has the biggest collection in canada he died at 40 randomly, just a thought
Beautiful!
A site like Sheguiandah is a rare gem. The implications of such ancient human activity in Canada could lead to a major paradigm shift in our understanding of prehistoric cultures.
They don't want to change the HISTORY BOOKS 🙄
@@larrywhittaker9901Who is they?
@@Trumpsterfire101
Haven't you heard of the recently discovered They tribe ?
They are absolutely everywhere 😮
I have long believed that the land bridge was not the route into the Americas, rather that boats were used. By skirting the ice pack they would have access to food and a refuge from bad weather.
@@Trumpsterfire101Aliens disguised as liberals
Thank you for the opportunity to learn about this site and the people who used it. Well presented.
I'm sure you been told before about the way you communicate. This is my opinion: the speed, the tempo of your commentary has a great balance. Soft spoken, very clear and easy to follow. something that is very much appreciated by people who has a different first language. ,😁 It is. My oh my, you would be great on tv.
Thanks!
@@baileylineroadThe Solutreans were the first humans to be in North America?
@@scottlanghorst1483 No wonder they never replied! That line of bullshit is a complete pack of lies. Stop watching videos by the Ancient Aliens crowd, Graham Hancock, Brien Foerster, Eric Von Danikan, and the other charlatans. Their thinking is "Why should I waste 10 years getting a PHD, when I can just make stuff up? It's SO MUCH EASIER! And this way I can get rich quick!"
Stick to the videos made by reputable organizations, like accredited universities and organizations. And try reading an actual book for once. One by a real expert. Not one about somebody's pack of lies.
@@scottlanghorst1483...their point very closely resemble the bi-facial points found at Clovis. A point was found on the east coast that also resembles the clovis style projectiles
@@scottlanghorst1483 let's examine the evidence... The Clovis culture and knapping style is found across North America. Was considered technologically superior to its contemporaries of the time period. The Solutrean style of knapping and tool sets are identical to Clovis. They have traced Solutrean tools found in the Basque country, to quarries on the East Coast of the Americas. The language of the Basque people (Solutreans) does not have ties linguistically to any language in Europe. Their language does share words with Native American tribes though. The largest population centers for Basque people, outside of the Basque country, are northern Nevada and southern Idaho. Those people are returning to their homeland. After the great flood pushed them out of North America, they migrated to Europe and established a colony in the area between Spain and France called the Basque country. The mainstream migration story of these cultures are presented backwards. There is more evidence of this reverse migration in other cultures as well. The Ainu people of northern Japan are the original samurai and are completely different genetically than the Jomon culture of the rest of the island. Their knapping style and tool sets have been found on the Idaho side of the Snake River in an area known as Coopers Ferry. These are the oldest known artifacts in North America. The Nez Perce (Nimi'ipuu) tribe of Idaho, Oregon and Washington also possessed evidence of a reversed migration. When a legendary Chief of the Nez Perce surrendered to the U.S. Army he presented General Howard with a stone tablet as a peace offering. It was known as the "mystery glyph" as no one at the time could identify the cuneiform it was written in. Chief Joseph said, it was handed down through his family for many generations and was a gift from the people who once dominated the region. It wasn't until 1963, with the discovery of Göbekli Tepe that the mystery glyph had a known origin. The mystery glyph tablet that had been passed down for generations was written in Sumerian cuneiform. The oldest known site of civilization in Europe. 😮 Some little known history I thought I would share with you (and anyone reading this). Fact check this information...you can't make this stuff up 😂
What a great piece! This should be on TV! Thanks for putting this together. You have created a lifestyle that I dreamed about, doing my best to create our little homestead in WV.
It is too educational for TV.
@@flouisbailey PBS
Knapping (sp) is such a beautiful art. I'm glad it isn't lost
you have the correct or orthodox spelling
There's a guy in Bishop California that does arrowheads snapping. And obsidian rocks or boulders are easily found a bit north of Bishop.
mid-day knapping is nice
I'm from this region. It's fascinating seeing how the rocks I grew up around were used.
Edit: I'm from Sudbury, spent a decent amount of time exploring Manitoulin Island & Killarney. Amazing landscapes, with the most peaceful atmosphere.
As a young Archaeology student I got to spend a few months making an archaeological survey of Killarney park during the mid-70's. An absolutely beautiful area. Our base was in Sudbury.
Is there any way to get some of this material? Or is it all protected?
@MikeJones-vb1me Northern Ontario has very little enforcement of any "rules" to be honest. The Provincial motto is "Yours To Discover". Perhaps the specific archeological sites where artifacts have been discovered are under some form of protection. However, the La Cloche Mountain range & Niagara Escarpment on Manitoulin Island are littered with piles of these types of rock all over the place. If you were to do The Crack or Cup And Saucer trails, you would come across many piles of loose rock of these sorts. I never found any artifacts, but I was never aware they used these rocks for tool making until I saw this video!
@bobbarron6969 Yes Killarney and the surrounding Georgian Bay region has some truly amazing scenery. Very under-rated, extremely peaceful.
I would suggest approaching the band(s) on whose land it is on. They may be able to get some for you. If you just want the type of rock not specific to that area surely it's found other places.
What a wonderful account of both ancient and recent human and natural history.👍
Yeah! A good rendering of history
Only that the Anglo World love their lagacy but they don't want them among them, they do the same everywhere they rule they decimate them they want them extinct
Like dinosaurs, América, Australia, New Zesland, Hawaii, Africa,, is not glorious!
Inglorious bastards 😮
Thank you so much for the marvelous background as you walk us through this beautiful park marked with spellbinding art and informative plaques. I'm fascinated by archaeology and native culture and really appreciate the experts that contributed to this video.
What makes them "experts"?
@@usmcmustang2972 You're asking me? Lol. In my view, usually it's practice, lived experience or focused study.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO, CANADA NEEDS TO PUT OUT MORE LIKE THIS
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Steve
I agree, Canada is so rich with history. Grew up along the Niagara escarpment area in the 70's (as a teenager) and found 4 perfect gouge's all side by side on my uncles farm. Same quartzite material and have them on my wall in a beautiful glass and wood shadowbox. Very best wishes to you and yours and hope you have a wonderful, safe new yr dear.
You'll never know anything about our history as long as you have to have a degree(knowledge is different than a degree), funding, permission, permits, etc. The amount of red tape in the name of sacred sites is bs. You should not forget also. The money that pays for the digs, gets to write the story at the end of the day. Just look at what you can't do around that site. Explore. Most major sites discovered in recent times. Was due to someone on an adventure. Ie: Göbekli Tepe
Grandma, your CAPS-LOCK got stuck again. Find your glasses, please, if you can't read the NORMAL text.
@@voornaam3191awe 😕 were the rude lil whippersnapper's eyes hurt by having to read all caps? thank goodness you were still able to see and express your umbrage over this offense * le phew *
or maybe you just need to see a proctologist to get that stick extracted from yer butt
Very interesting video would like to see more videos like this.amazing early manufacturing site and Hardest to think and to know is that they didnt have safety glasses to protect eyes from stray flakes flying up..the artistry in these handmade tools are amazing to see.💙🇺🇲🇨🇦
I am Anishinaabe I was born in the Sudbury District. I hate the old photos of the Indigenous who are drawn naked, or half naked. For a few reasons, there is no way any of us were that, impractical. Being eaten by Mosquito's, or scratched by small brush, branches and or getting burrs on you, or how about how cold it is in Canada.
Thank you for highlighting this quarry site. It is always interesting to see how and when these sites were utilized 🏹🏹
Glad it was helpful! Drop by my website baileylineroad.com for a visit sometime. You'll find lots of stuff there, including tool giveaways, articles and lots of other stuff of interest to hands-on, how-to people.
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Steve
Thanks for the wonderful video, and a huge thanks for not ruining it with crappy background music.
The judicious use of the music that you chose is pretty good.
Grew up sheltered by the escarpment. Older brothers found flint arrowheads in plowed fields. Paved over now.
Cool video, very interesting - cheers from Alberta!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for this most interesting presentation . One of my friends was from Gore Bay on Manitoulin..so my interest was spiked when Manitoulin was mentioned ...and my passion for archeology.
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Steve
@@baileylineroad Thanks for your reply and will check out your website ! Lucille
My father was born on Manitoulin and we used to visit my grandmother in Gore Bay every summer.
I lived on manitoulin Island from 89 - 02 ... beautiful place
@carolynking5470 my dad was born in mindemoya
Great program about this remarkable archeological site.
Very interesting video. Thank you for posting it.
I know of a place here in New Hampshire that is very much like this place . it has a huge knoll of quarts that is literally surrounded by hundreds of thousands of chips and flakes. certainly not nearly as big as this site but does have many of the same charectoristics . I have known about it for a long time and people hike and hunt around the area but it's never been acknowledged as an archeological site . Watching this documentary has inspired me to contact the state archeologist and show them my spot so as It could possibly be protected for the future. thank you for posting this and it's been added to my bucket list of places I want to visit now!
pretty much everywhere quartz is at the surface. after all they didn't even have horses to run down to wal mart and pick up a chunk. there were probably a few battles over these locations.
I wonder if there's gold there?
Gold is often found in quartz deposits.@@victorhopper6774
The quartzite in this video is a little different from regular quartz. You can't make arrowheads like this from regular quartz. But that place in New Hampshire might not be quartz either. You can tell be the way the rock breaks - the stuff in the video breaks like glass, and work for arrowheads. Those arrowhead making techniques dont work on milky or clear quartz. It'd be cool to hear a follow-up on the New Hampshire place. I'm just south of there, and found all kinds of rocks. I found a small clear quartz crystal in a pocket in a rocky outcropping in a farm field behind my old apartment complex. I noticed white quartz veins in the rocks, and followed them until one opened up a little, and a single crystal had formed inside. It was loose by the time I'd found it. We get calcite veins around here, too. It shatters in chunks rather than like glass (or maybe like "safety glass"😂 not shards, and neither quartz nor calcite flake off with percussion strikes. That's how you can tell for sure). I know where there's marble and alabaster in Vermont, and I wouldnt be surprised if New Hampshire has that too. What you found nay have been an old quarry, just a matter of how old?
I have a Cousin, who has been able to make these, Arrowheads that you would NEVER be able to tell the difference between a Arrowhead, that was made thousands of years ago, yet he will make them right in front of you. He makes it look easy, yet some people have the ability and experience and someone can't no matter what. Tells me certain people had their specialty. 😊
Same here and have been knapping for almost 50 yrs now, i stopped selling my pieces decades ago when i found out some people were buying them, then turning around and selling them as authentic pieces of history for hundreds of dollars apiece. I was disgusted by this and have NEVER sold another piece.This "sham" creates a nightmare. Best wishes.
I find the real ones in the ground.
I watched a flint napper made heads. He was so upset at my mention of the Solutrians that he tried to accuse me of theft to make me feel uncomfortable and rally hate against me. I did not know at that time that a narrative shift happened after ww2 that hid the truth and created alternative narratives that support the false out of Africa theory. Thank the good for DNA sequencing that illuminates the massive lies. Science will be given back to the observer, eventually.
Lol
@@shanghunter7697You should do a video demonstration on how to make arrow heads and post it on UA-cam. Maybe donate some of your works to colleges or museums.
Really well done. Thank you!
very interesting documentary! thank you! would be great to discover settlements in the area too!
❤Thank you for this awesome documentary History. I am glad to hear/seeing the tools. And not forgetting that many Sasquatch/BIGFOOT around you ,and the Fotos, you can see them all. Structure is good 👍 to ,i seeing 👀 very much appreciate your effort on your YT ,
I'm not sure if you 🤔 can read this, but Thank you again. Lovely to hear/see video. From 🇩🇰 Denmark. 🤗
next time I am in Ontario I 'd like to visit their museum ,very informative video thanks !
Merci to share those precious history facts we’ve us, interesting and impressive thanks, we can feel you joy to share thanks
Wonderful video! Thank you!
My dad recently got into flint knapping with antlers and stones. My Dad and I are traditional bow hunters. So he’s super into the old knowledge of life and hunting.
Congratulations Kemosabe!
You and your dad should do some videos on napping and making arrows.
I found this video to be very well done and quite interesting.
I do find the title to be rather misleading and a bit"sensational" for such well done, informative and professional work but I am glad that it didnt deter me from watching. The beautiful paleo point is what got my attention!
Thanks for posting this!
I agree. Nearly every video has a sensationized titles (and words in the thumbnail pictures) because UA-cam favors them. Also idiotic facial expressions.
Several times we see what an archeologist would call a folsom point
30:06 - Awesome knapping demonstration.
Good insight, thanks.
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Steve
Excellent!
Great video my health prevents me from going here but I love knowledge. Thanks
Good for you, it doesn't hurt to know things.
thank you. this was both interesting and informative.
I've been curious about this for a while, so why not ask ...
why is it many youtube videos show the same video twice back to back?
Good Morning! Thanks for your note. I'm not sure what you mean with same video playing back to back. Can you send me an example?
Bye for now,
Steve
Thanks for the info
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That was satisfying to watch, and I feel smarter just listening to it. I would love to go there!
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Steve
I live between the escarpment and Lake Ontario and when I was a kid we would find arrowheads in the creek area where we played. As recent as 6 or eight years ago a neighbour was selling arrowheads they dug up in their garden.
🤫 government will be looking to profit from your nieghbors HARD WORK and research 🤮
every little piece of the puzzle, no matter how small or insignificantly seeming helps 'paint' a picture or helping form the data-set & characteristics that become the proverbial 'window' into a particular past. Well done!
Ivwas writing a paper on exploring earth before the ice age, great video. Thanks to the Archeologist, we're gaining on information only previously known to be delusional ideals. Many Thank you all for your participation and anticipation in these great histories
And now we have 22 thousand year foot prints in NM.
That's some lovely quartzite. Nice material
one of the most interesting videos I have ever watched
Cool history lesson! 😍
Good Morning Kate Lynn! Thanks for your kind words and for watching!
great program i have found points made of sheguiandah quartzite here in the chesapeake bay in maryland
Wow! That's really interesting. Tell me more about the points you've found. Local stories from here on Manitoulin Island talk about Aboriginal people making trading voyages south by canoe into what is now the US, sometimes staying away for years at a time. I imagine the Sheguiandah points may have made it down that way. What can you tell me about your finds? Bye for now, Steve
@@baileylineroad i live on a island called smith island and i have hunted for artifacts for 40 years and found thousands and thousands of arrowheads here is a link to a two part outdoors show that was done about me and finding artifacts on the chesapeake bay island
@@baileylineroad ua-cam.com/video/yZWQyGnJ3B0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/T8bI6rKp4eo/v-deo.html
Thanks Tim! I don't see a link. Can you send again? Perhaps to my email address: steve@stevemaxwell.ca @@timmarshall2062
Interesting, but the last ice age ended around 10,000 years ago, right? - So, either this artifact is a bit younger than that - OR it's WAY older, even PRE-dating the last ice age. The ice sheet during the late glacial period extended into and across the Sheguiandah. Mr. Randall Carlson has a lot of interesting takes on this stuff, by the way.
last ice age ended at 12,900 years at younger dryas boundaries
So great too hear about the ancient history of this country and its people thanks so much very interesting.
Agree. The Cordilleran and Laurentide ice sheets covered Canada and parts of the northern USA. The ice began to melt around twenty thousand years go and the land was pretty well ice free around 10, 500 years ago. The ice remaking was the mountain glaciers.
The comments here give me a bad feeling about the video. Too many displays of ignorance, when I'd expect a quality documentary to attract intelligent discussion. The Late Cenozoic Ice Age has been ongoing for the last thirty-four millions years. What you ignorant ones are referring to is the last glacial period. People keep bringing up the Younger Dryas as if it's some magic spell. Usually mentioned by people who listen to what's his face, Hancock, falling for his very deliberate lies. I'd shoot myself, if I caught myself falling for such idiocy.
@Henry-nw3vj Irrelevant to the topic
This is one of the best videos I've come across on UA-cam in quite a while. But, there is nothing here that is going to rewrite human history. I learned a lot of this when I visited Manitoulin Island when I was a young teenager in '73
History is so important. It is the dust of what we are today. 🇨🇦
I'm no expert but I feel like we as humans have been here longer than we think I feel our history and Religion has been rewritten many times. The only thing that seems to change for the good is when we realize what has been hidden from us.
Get a fucking grip. Nobody is hiding anything from you. If you got off your butt and stopped watching the stupidity posted to UA-cam by idiots like the dispicable Graham Hancock, you would see that very clearly. Try picking up a book written by a real expert, or read 1 of the scientific journals, or even just read a popular archeology magazine, and you will see very clearly that nobody is hiding anything.
That's just a ploy for pity by Hancock and his ilk, and to try to raise your emotions, but it's all just to sell his books and videos, so he can avoid getting a real job, because he's not qualified for any real job, and NOBODY on this earth would hire him. Even Joe Rogan can only tolerate him for an hour at a time! Without suckers like you, he won't be able to travel the world 1st class, and stay in luxury hotels.
But all of you people are far too lazy to bother looking up the facts. It might require you guys to get up off your couch. And to read things that actually require some effort to comprehend. God forbid that people might actually learn some scientific vocabulary! And then you you guys blame the scientists for the fact you know nothing about any of it, which is the most moronic thing I've ever heard of!
Every time I hear somebody make that absurd claim I realize that nearly the entire US is made up of real idiots. By far the most are right wingers who are already used to swallowing the EXTREMELY ABSURD lies told by the orange cult leader. It's time all the right wingers and the ridiculous Ancient Aliens fanatics woke the hell up and faced reality!
We are discovering new information about the human story in history every day. Evidence now shows humans beings have been in the Americas for 23,000 years, at the very least.
Anyone can make someone like yourself, believe anything you want to believe ...
@@usmcmustang2972oh stop being such a stick in the mud
Of course religion has been rewritten. It is in the hands of scam artists and grifters. No God. Just scams.
AFTER 10 minutes..ONTRIO is stated. "Sheguiandah is an archaeological site and National Historic Site of Canada. It is located on the northwestern shore of Manitoulin Island in Manitoulin, ONTARIO.
I've always wanted to go to Ontrio! 😆
Both are wrong! It’s Ontarryario 😂
Wasn't the Great Lakes formed during the last ice age around 11-15 thousand years ago and wasnt Manitoulin island under 1.5 miles of ice during the last ice age
Thomas Lee was forced to resign through back-stabbing and ridicule, because he maintained that the stone tools were most likely from as far back as 125,000 years ago. Many geologists agreed on the very old age of the site. I guess Mr. Thomas didn't tow the establishment line.
I'm in Ontario and the Huron fishing weirs near me are older than the pyramids as well.
Which Pyramids?? The one's in Egypt or the one's in the Grand Canyon (USA) ??
There are no pyramids in the Grand Canyon!@@32clove
@@32clove they are almost as old as the oldest pyramid in the world, the weirs came about 700 years after the oldest pyramid.
Wasn't Cananda covered by miles of ice until about 11800 years ago? So how does this site rewrite human history? In the USA there is the Clovis & preClovis dating back at least that far. Then there are the sites in Turkey & surrounding countries dating even further back. Then there are the Bosnia pyramids dating back over 30000 years. A great find no doubt but much later than alot of other sites. Just my 2 coppers.
Read the description lol
The Bosnia pyramids are not accepted as 30,000 years old generally. Remember the 'ice free corridor in Canada and the short warm period around 12,500 years ago before the Yunger Dryas.
And remember that UA-cam favors the clickbait titles! Just like TV does, or did when anyone watched it, UA-cam favors the lowest common denominator. In other words, it caters to the dumbest among us!
Wow. I've been through that area several times and didn't know about this.
At one time I taught my self to nap flint I had found some rocks of flint that were fairly easy to flake and I found that smaller points were quite easy to make. It is very hard to make large spear points
Point taken
Shame old crafts are kept alive by so few or lost completely. My dad was a shipwright when no tools were electric/battery powdered.
I wonder about if the black mat layer is clearly present in this place. Which delienates the end of Pleistocene and start of Holocene. If not, is there any theory about why it's missing? Could it be because there was an Icesheet during the time?
Hello, I love hearing more about life on Mother Earth, and being in Ontario is exciting!! What I am wondering is about the fact that Lake Superior is not a lake at all! It has been proven that... it is in fact an old Ocean or Sea! Do you have any knowledge about this information??? This was brought to my attention by those who have examined all the "Great Lakes" in great depths! I find this all so very fascinating!!! Could L. Superior have originally been part of/connected to James Bay? Migwich
I'm not an archeologist but I do know that northern lower Michigan is filled with ancient coral fossils so at some point the great lakes region was definitely a shallow Sea, but connected to James Bay I think that's a stretch.
Doesn't a sea have to be at "sea level"? Otherwise isn't it just a giant lake?
@@sid7088 it might have been 50 million years ago and probably was
Michigan ( my home state) has many ancient coral formations as well.as some huge salt deposits. I am sure at some point in history the whole region was an ancient sea.
@@sid7088 An Ocean or Sea also has to be connected to the Oceans, and must also therefore be saltwater. Lake Superior is most definately NOT!
17:40 there is a gorgeous profile on that piece
I use to live in chapleau. Near there . This is pretty amazing
Definitely a archaeological extravaganza
I’ve noticed that there seems to be more native Americans/First people are becoming archeologists than 20-30 years ago. Because much of the time, it’s likely their ancestors it seems more effective and somewhat poetic that they be the ones doing this. Their traditions and stories would seem to give insight. Being a repressed people who have lost so much of their culture and land, it must be nice to have the existence of their people here so much further back than once believed.
In east texas, in a small town, a site beside a site is considered 20,000 years old or more in private but in public, the Texas A&M and other college intellectuals that initially investigated refuse to even suggest such heresy.
Dimwits.
The sites in Southern Ontario are everywhere, sand mounds were destroyed along with the bones of the passed on and their artifacts. The sand was used to mix cement in the urban sprawl .
Am facinated with ancient people we are older than what the educational systems are teaching
Because some nutcases with no education believe in aliens, or pretend to, and used that to get rich? Sorry! Try again!
Nothing has been "rewritten" as much as human history by noted scientists.
And who on earth is "noting" historians? They "note" themselves. So, who are "noting"? The boring ones. The average ones. The wrong ones. How do you select the best ones? All you get is fights. History proves it. Quarrel quarrel quarrel. Yuck.
Possibly
I am certain Time Team's Phil Harding would love to join you in Canada, flint napping if he wasn't in Britain. very interesting the huge mining and making industry of ancient times. The Haida too have some great uncovering's of Early fishing methods and more, but they also keep secretive the precious Haida Black stone resources they carve- Argillite.
Very cool 👍🏻
After this video I must come and visit.
I suspect this site fell out of favour for high quality tools a bit earlier than suspected as trade routes opened up and better quality stone was available. I mean that stuff is the best quartz you'll find but it's still terrible in comparison to many other stone types. In my area there's a few pink quartz zones that were clearly used for basic crude tools but whenever someone finds an actual point or well crafted item it's always chert or flint imported from a long ways away. In fact it seems even the copper tools around the great lakes fell out of favour for the same reasons. Good quality stone is far easier to work and became far easier to get a hold of over time as populations increased and more resource discoveries were made. Of course that site could have probably been a go to for lower quality tools right up until more modern times when the flow of good stone was interrupted for whatever reason.
The stone used here is quartzite, not quartz. He said that people came hundreds of miles for this good quality stone.
He said that it was likely abandoned when iron became available. That was traded from the white men.
Wow that's Ancient.
Really Does raise the question of : How some human grouping with such an existence history.
Did NOT even manage to develop a written language.
Absolutely Crucial to the continuance accumulation of any aquired knowledge beyond day to day feeding .
But only when settlements reached the size and complexity that we consider to be civilization, or cities, did they actually need writing. What man needed and had the materials for, he invented, what wasn't needed wasn't invented. Eventually many other inventions came from cities too, like the potter's wheel, and eventually the cart.
Very interesting.
My Uncle is a archeologist, he wears shirts that are too small also!! 😊
Archaeologists are not baffled. They are scared to challenge todays history lesson.
Very true.
They aren’t scared at all.
Pride, arrogance, and money rule over science.
@@SmokeGray nah
Here’s the truth about academia:
1) Some attend grad school because they have a genuine passion for their subjects of study, and wish to make it their career. However, an equal or larger number do it because they don’t know what they want to be when they grow up and figure that a career as an academic is at least somewhat prestigious, and affords opportunities for “intellectual challenge.“
2) In light of the large numbers of the second group entering the faculties of colleges and universities, we find that an old adage - Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach - applies more to college and university academics than to secondary school teachers.
3) Because the pretend scholars in that second group do not want to be viewed by their peers as wannabes or less-than-genuine academic minds, they frequently compensate by using excessively technical language and arrogance to convince others of their intellectual superiority. The more one hears words like “paradigm“ the less that professor actually has to say.
4) Given the competition for limited permanent, tenured faculty positions, combined with the arrogant attitude of those pretend scholars who have advanced into the academic and administrative hierarchy, the atmosphere at many colleges and universities is frequently one involving a great deal of cliquish, political, infighting, and petty defense of territory against intruders, such as women and minorities. This is why many university departments are actually the opposite of a place of enlightened thought and speech, but rather are the bastians of old boy attitudes, perversely, even by those females who have climbed the tenure rungs.
5) Lacking the innate brilliance or interest in a chosen field, the pretend scholars will focus on publishing complex, but not controversial research that essentially rehashes the work of others and features three page-long footnotes equivocating to the point that nothing at all is said or expressed. Lesser talented, pretend scholars hope to keep a place in their departments by presenting a façade of intellectuality while remaining sufficiently noncommittal to avoid negative political consequences within the department.
6) In an interview on the topic of academic resistance to new ideas, Harvard astrophysicist, and former chair of the Harvard University Astronomy Department, Avi Loeb, has said that above all else, academics desire to be seen as experts in their chosen fields. If they are to admit that new ideas or unknown phenomena warrant further study, that is in essence a confession of ignorance and lack of expertise on the topic. This most academics, particularly the pretend scholars, lack either the desire or the courage to concede. This has been true regarding the existence of UFOs, which the United States Department of Defense acknowledged as real back in 2017, and Congress has been studying in recent years, or the existence of as yet unknown animals, such as Sasquatch, credible evidence of which exists in vast quantities that scoffing academics either pretend does not exist, or are ignorant of altogether.
Similarly, new theories, such as human occupation of North America and South America predating the Clovis culture by many millennia, are viewed as attacks on the status quo. Insecure pretend scholars and mainstream academia nervously protect and guard against newcomers with their new ideas, who might be viewed as the new stars in their field.
It takes far less knowledge, creativity, passion for a subject, and courage to defend an established theory than it does to discover a new one. This is very apparent in archaeology when we see determined attempts to discredit any theories and discoveries that suggest that humans inhabited the New World more than 20,000 years ago.
Of course, there must be scrutiny and careful review of new theories and findings. Certainly there can be mistakes made, whether by overly eager attention-seekers, or by well-meaning, genuine enthusiasts of the topic. There needs to be a reasonable study to discern which is more accurate, the old established theory, or the new, potentially revolutionary one.
And, we must also guard against the sort of excessive open-mindedness that would result in conspiracy theorists’ brains rolling out their ears if they tipped their heads over enough. Fringe historical and archaeological theories regarding Phoenicians, Marc Anthony and Cleopatra, Welsh monks, Vikings, and Templar knights traipsing around North America and leaving alleged artifacts, such as the Kensington Runestone, the Newport Tower, hidden treasure troves in the walls of the Grand Canyon, or underground stone “temples” at the source of a spring are simply the products of overactive imaginations, hoaxers, or misidentification of the works of 17th and 18th century colonists.
I make these comments with a degree of bitterness over the fact that sadly, too many of the professors I had in college and university were pretend scholars rather than individuals who actually cared much about their chosen fields, and had any achievements in them. The world of academia needs more courage to be open-minded, just as the world of avocational enthusiasts needs more reasonable, common-sense skepticism.
Just during the 3/4 of a century that I have been alive the dates of human occupation of the America's has been pushed back numerous times. IMO, only, names like Indian, American Indian, Native American, First Nations, are all colonial terms. I really liked the part in the video where the narrator says that there is a third, competing theory, that people have been there since time immemorial. To my way of thinking, as these dates get pushed back further and further, as archaeologists dare to dig deeper and deeper, as traditional stories are shared and proven, we start to seriously approach an "immemorial" date. Oral histories ARE truth. Their truth is our truth too. I live just a few miles away from several of the earliest examples of Clovis culture, 13,000 years ago, including one of the few Mastadon kill sites. I may know less than John Show but I'm learning all the time.
History is a written discipline. Archaeology is artifactual and hypothesis. Archaeology can reinforce a written source of evidence, or disprove it,
What this article is all about is Prehistory, and is as such open to debate and conjecture!
That is not to say that it is of no value, quite the opposite, but do not confuse the two disciplines.
On The Oregon Country Fair property in Veneta Oregon we have the Earliest yet dated Outdoor Ovens along the Ling Tom River. It was a Kayapyla people the Original People of this lands gathering place for over 20,000 years. Eastern Oregon has other ancient sites.
My partners family Kayapula has been here in North America for well over 20,000 years.
Camus bulbs are still collected and turned into bread by local Original People to thos day.
So cool that we are still gathering there 20,000 years later! I’ve been attending for the last 3 decades. It’s truly an essential event.✌🏻☮️
Did they know that lady with the long skull head?
FYI: The pyramids are between 10,800 and 11,200 years old based on the water erosion present. During the younger drias period.
Manitoulin Island is an absolutely breathtaking place.
Agreed .. I lived there from 89-02
It's amazing the knowledge held for millions of years is now lost. If we had to start over, how long would it take to determine only a few types of stone are useful in this way?
6:50 Quartzite does not form from liquid magma.
Its quartz predecessor forms from magma, that cools & solidifies. When the quartz is reheated and cools, quartzite is formed.
@@charleshash4919Can also form from highly compacted sandstone, I believe.
@@bobfoster687 In any case, it's metamorphic, not igneous.
There are way more than a handful of people who know how to make stone tools today.
I and 2 other archaeology classmates were taught by our instructor back in the day. The 3 of us got pretty good at it. Over the years since I have met with many others who have learned it and others that teach it. A quick UA-cam search found over a dozen channels that show stone-flaking. Sorry, Dr. Julig you seem to be out of practice on your stone-flaking skills and selection.
i think this might be the stone that was brought to N.W. Ontario to trade that helped replace the Copper tools that were used around lake Superior
Really interesting!
Thanks! I find this stuff fascinating, too.
Thanks for watching!
Steve
@@baileylineroad I have a few pieces of quartzite handed down from my grandmother. Never realized what it was, but could tell it was different from regular quartz. Now i have to try making a blade obviously LoL Pretty wild learning that we have our own Obsidian like material up here.
I can get into it more but, Smithsonian and the power Religion on the planet will not let you change history to the TRUTh... We found Clovis arrow heads 120 feet down and the Archeological Society said they can only go 40 ft, so all his work was abolished and he was denounced from the Arch. Society..
Junipersnow; this extraordinary claim needs more back up. Source, evidence etc. Until then, your claim can't be taken more serious than an flat earthers claim.
@@sidekickbob7227 I dont give a fk what you think and Im not here to be your friend.... My grandma was born on a reservation and one of my life goals is to resurrect the stories she knew and prove she was no Savage like your people called here. You do the research A- hole. Im working with reservations and elders, not your universities or lying Archeologist Society. .... its not in your history books.
@@sidekickbob7227 I dont give a fk what you think and Im not here to be your friend.... My grandma was born on a reservation and one of my life goals is to resurrect the stories she knew and prove she was no Savage like your people called here. You do the research A- hole. Im working with reservations and elders, not your universities or lying Archeologist Society. .... its not in your history books.
@@sidekickbob7227 Thanks for saving me some work! That's what I came here to say. Plus, anyone who writes that badly can't be taken seriously. They are so unclear that their comment makes no sense at all, in addition to lacking any verifiable facts at all.
New date on sphinx? Allegedly 80000 years old. Eighty thousand? Now thats rewriting history. Humans have been around a lot longer than historians admit.
Gunung Padang pyramid is said to be at least 30,000 years old. Probably older.
Much IS kept from us, as i'm sure you know.
Chuckled a little bit when he said flint napping is a lost skill, or only held by a few.
My whole scout troop practiced it when I was in Scouts as a kid. We had a few kids that made arrows so impressive you'd think they had grown up doing it.
Toronto has interesting finds too
Knapping . . . has become quite the hobby, in my experience largely within the "primitive archery" community. One of the members of that community ... Ryan Gill ... has demonstrated the how-to and effectiveness of weapons from stone and wood.
Yes this is where I live close to where I live I m baffled by the all the fossils and different rocks
In the region south of Lake Superior it's fairly clear of flint or chert for tool making, but there are deposits of natural copper. The first people in the region learned how to heat and anneal copper for implements.
Stone tool making regions would have produced good trade goods for other natives in the region.
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I hope it results in a paradigm shift in our understanding of how to restore ancient pathways and hunting and hiking trails and get rid of car culture. [i.e. I could now walk from Niagara Falls to Fargo in the Dakotas--Fall2Fargo--on renewed trails and it would be nice to have the Manitoulin link.] Nothing's more native than walking. If all goes well I'll walk to your site in a couple of years.