Canon 5d Mark ii no edit portraits
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- Canon 5d mark ii outdoor portrait shoot with no editing. + tips
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the pictures do come out earthy tone. maybe similar to the baroque paintings. i feel the classic 5d has a Vermeer like quality to the pictures and the 5d2 has Baroque style
Oh that’s a very good description I like that
I love watching your videos Martin. So much common sense and great advice. Have to say though that I preferred the unedited RAW file than the brighter edited version! Horses for courses, as always. I now take my 5D classic with me when a portrait opportunity is possible. With a 1.8 nifty-fifty, it just nails beautiful photos all the time!
Hi Cliff thanks! That was edited back in 2015 so would be edited differently these days. Love my 5d classic too!
I'd be happy with all my photographs if they came out like this Martin
Thank you Paul !
Thanks for sharing. I learn more from your videos than I do from anyone else's.
Thank you Ian that’s very kind
This was one of your videos that made me buy a 5d2!
good! its a fantastic camera!
Great portraits. I have had my 5D MKII for a long while now, along with my now ancient Nikon D800. For the love of god I really don't understand why people are lusting after all those super expensive digital cameras with unnecessarliy high MP sesnors and all those focusing points and modes. I guess as Ansel Adams once remarked " the most important part of a camera is located six inches behind it ." Thank you.
hahhaah yes well i think people just like new technology and buying things
Brilliant and very informative. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Great content as usual. There are so many things that you bring up that have been on my mind for years. There’s no reason not to crop if it makes the picture better. I even crop to odd aspect ratios sometimes, which disturb some of the true believers in the golden ratio of photography. Pixels are pointless if they are only there to show imperfection. I would go as far as to say that many of the younger artists I watch on UA-cam and on Instagram are obsessed by detail and sharpness, and would probably do better work with less expensive gear. But I’m a grumpy old guy with too much old gear in the cupboard. I decided to buy another 6D after watching your videos, and now I’m after a 24-70/2.8 as well. I have the 5D classic and the 5DII, but usually I prefer the 1Ds Mk.III for the planned sessions. It has great colours in my honest opinion. The 5’s and 6’s are a lot easier to lug around though.
Thank you for this I have video about this not sticking so strictly to these composition rules it will be my next video I think. People don’t understand it and take it too literally.
Great pictures Martin I love the picture and as you say there is so little editing to do.
Just gonna say the same thing… Any 5D against any newer cameras.. since watching your channel I feel like I’ve wasted £100s on newer so called professional camera’s.. clearly you’re a talented photographer and it shows in your work., Keep banging out your videos they’re the best …
Thank you John, the more expensive cameras can be worth it too they can make life easier especially regarding focus!
Well…... that’s your next or future video.. how to nail focus …especially in when in servo … I tried it today and failed miserably!
Ohhhh ok I could do that
If you could advise how to stop drinking so much at the weekend that would be good too!
@@johnstaples1606 hahahaha well id say replace it with something mentally stimulating instead like learning something new, i know the question was rhetorical but still!
Nice to see ooc jpegs, that 135 is a very nice lens. Good work and good information. Best wishes!
Thanks again John! 135 is a lovely lens
This video has shown me that, in a strange way, the 5D mark II is very filmic. And I have always considered the 5D classic as the full-frame that looked most like film. You make the 5D II seem quite appealing. I still own two or maybe three 5D classics--I'm afraid to get rid of them because they were such a revelation for me when I left 35mm and medium format. I still marvel at not having to pay for film.
i was thinking of getting one of the two, kind of for this reason. both can be got for a very reasonable price. mk ii slightly less heavy which is a plus point.
@@Humungojerry both are excellent. I grabbed a 5D as a cheap backup body and honestly it's become my go-everywhere camera because I don't worry about the value or damage possibility when I drag it with me in my bag everywhere. The big camera and red rings can stay at home aside from when I want to do proper shoots.
@@mikafoxx2717 i ended up getting the classic in the end, i do like the results. however didn’t realise i was getting a low serial number one - so have exchanged it for a later serial, due to the mirror problem. (though i’ve read conflicting things online as to whether later versions actually fixed this or not)
i’ve used a mk ii before and really liked the results. lovely colours
@@Humungojerry if you motor doesn't fall off, don't worry about it. If it does, get yourself some epoxy and put it back on..
Love these explanations! Really helps!
Even in the 2022 its still a damn tank, love it
it is for sure!
These SOOC files were using the Adobe Color camera calibration profile as opposed to the Canon Standard/Neutral camera calibration; is there a reason for it. I would like to see a video from you describing the differences between the camera calibration profile differences. Thanks for the awesome videos. Keep them coming.
Hi Rudy, the difference with the calibration is very small but for this i kept it at adobe colour because i assume a lot of people dont know about camera profiles. Really though the difference is not there anyway you can hardly see a difference.
@@MartinCastein, actually I can see substantial differences on my Canon 5D Classic between Adobe Color and Canon Standard or Canon Neutral [my preferred calibration profile for editing portraits], especially in the reds and warmer colors. But even the greens and blues change hue when selecting Canon Standard calibration profile in LR. The same is true for the Canon 7D; although less pronounced.
In your video about the Canon 5D Classic camera settings, I believe, you recommended using the camera neutral profile. Shouldn't we try to match whatever profile we picked on the camera on LR?
Thanks so much for the valuable information you share with us.
@@RudyGiron It really depends from shoot to shoot, what I mean is, in this shoot the difference is tiny between the profiles. Normally I will look through the profiles and see if i prefer it but they can add contrast. The difference with the neutral profile can be a lot more dramatic but it doesnt always suit. The reason i shoot with neutral on the cameras is so i can see the most dynamic range in the histogram. Ultimately though just choose shoot by shoot what like the look of the most as a starting point. You wont go wrong with any of them. I often like the adobe color look though its a good middle ground profile.
Thanks for the video! As you may recall, I’ve got the 5DM2 and the EOS-R. I’m gaining ground with the R but I do really enjoy using the 5D mostly because it’s so comfortable. I wish I could have a camera body with the focusing of the R in the body of the 5DM2. I’m still working out how to get sharp pictures from either body but I think it’s coming along. I put the 5D away and force myself to pick up just the R when I want to go practice shoot. It’s nice to see that I can embrace a little higher of an ISO outdoors to keep the shutter speed up. I’ve been in the mistaken mindset that I’ve got to keep the ISO as low as humanly possible in every shoot to get clean pictures. That explains why I’m getting so many blurry pictures, I think. You may not be setting out to teach people how to shoot but for myself at least, you teach me something every time I watch your videos. Thank you!
Keith
Thanks for this Keith glad to hear you are making some progress, yea very much so you can increase iso to keep shutter speed up. I think a lot of photography technique has been lost and just isn’t on UA-cam. I’m aiming to teach more on my channel as I run out of camera reviews to do. It was always my plan to make this lore of a teaching channel with behind the scenes videos so that is the ultimate direction. I suffer from PTSD which has limited me at times but it will come together shortly.
@@MartinCastein thanks again. Sorry to hear about the PTSD. I can relate. I’m 22 years in to a 25 year career as a law enforcement officer so I’m pretty sure I suffer with it as well! I just think the Post part is more fittingly Current. I can only imagine how it’s going to change when I retire…
Time really does seem to fix things though but I’ve found my landscape photography does me a lot of good I think if you find things that are meaningful to you it really helps.
@@MartinCastein my wife and I are going on vacation to my home state of New York next week and I’ll be bringing along my gear. I’m sure looking forward to getting some opportunities to photograph. The time to relax and decompress is going to be enjoyed as well. Take care of yourself and I’ll look forward to the next video!
@@MartinCastein Thank you for opening up about that. I also have the same, but well into recovery and it always brings a tear to my eye of happiness when awareness can be spread to help reduce the stigma of it and tell the world that there is a path forward.
Wonderful images and gorgeous model. I noticed you were using “Adobe Color” as your default profile for this vid, and switched to straight “Color” for the end edit. Do you ever use the camera matching profiles, or do you just go with whatever profile feels best for the shot/shoot?
Hi Lyndon, thanks again, i left it on adobe color as there isnt much difference, sometimes i check to see which i prefer but the difference was nearly impossible to see. I usually do just leave it on adobe color though, i also assume not many people will know about the colour profiles.
Wow, I can't believe you also noticed it. I asked Martin a very similar question about using matching camera calibration profiles.
Another great video Martin. I'm a long term subscriber to your channel and enjoy seeing your reviews on older cameras as well as your style of editing. I note that you've gone through settings of the 5d mk 1. Any chance you could run through your settings on the mk 2 or are they largely the same? Keep up the great videos 👍
Hi Iain, thanks for your comment, the mark ii settings are the same expect i make the print button on the back be the live view button, other than that its the same though. :)
Damn it!!! I have a 5D and a 6D (amongst others, including a 50Mp 5D-SR, which I don't really like). The 5D mk2 is available for £270 in Excellent condition. I really find these cameras hard to resist at these prices. I may need to trade in my Canon M50 and lenses for one.
I just cant believe you havent completed the 5d 5dii 6d trilogy, i think you need to have a long hard think about things....🤣
Your outdoor photoshoot for the model was much more compelling in terms of composition on spot than it was indoors!! I have been watching your work for a while now and you were stunning in shooting a male model in every respect of portrait photography there!! Your sense of posing, use of light, and the timing were just breathtaking and so were your landscape photographs!! But I don't know if have made this photoshoot for making this video as tutorial but it lacked the fluttering you in others I mentioned!! I shouldn't be a harsh critic of a photographer of your repute, but I must say the photographs indoors could be better composed if you had levelled the camera vertically up or down and so horizontally; you didn't have to lose pixels while cropping!! You said you took the pictures with a telephoto (135mm, probably, if I've not heard it wrong) and in that case you might be struggling for space off the model but couldn't you shoot them with a wider lens and your trouble would be much less for finding what you meant out of the photoshoot?!!
this is a very very old photoshoot, the shooting horizontal to crop thing is because with people you cant shoot the same image twice and you dont know what the client needs. It helps to crop after, this is why commercial photographers like high megapixel cameras because the images get shot wide to be cropped after depending on adding text or logos or making it a vertical instead. Dont worry about throwing away pixels, that is a youtube idea only. The shoot was for a commercial client and was accepted. The 135 shots didnt really work because we didnt have space and too many people about but i was only trying it out because we had everything we needed already. Hope that helps!
Thankyou Martin, another great video! Very good Information showing how you crop your images. Im learning alot from your experience/channel.
Do you have any future thoughts with regards to online workshop or something similar.
Take care Chris.
Thanks Chris, online workshop is coming later dont worry, not yet though, in planning stages.
Will be this year though.
@@MartinCastein thx Martin. I have some lovely camera's a 5, 6 and 7D (all mk1's, if that's what we could call them) it would be great to use them (specially 5 and 6D ) to their potential.
Keep up the great channel m8, you have quite a few followers now 👍😁
@@chrissmith7069 Getting there Chris, still a pretty small channel but loads of content coming and will grow gradually, thanks for your support!
Yet again thank you for such a no BS informative video and this is quickly becoming my favourite photography channel.
Do you have any thoughts on how the 5D Mk III differs from the I and II? And do you have any thoughts on if the 5DSR has a similar look to the III or not?
Hi Dave, thank you! I have a video on this you can see but overall id say the mark 1 has a sort of creamy smooth rendering that feels more film-like but not a copy of film, its very very pleasing for portraits and probably canons best colour in a camera to date. The mark ii is a total shift in colour range but is actually really in its own way but much more earthy and brown toned, also lends itself really well to photographing people and the colour range is probably better for nature/landscape type work too. The mark iii for me gave a much blander rendering but its still good, the images look very very sharp on it almost as if the raw files have been sharpened by the camera, the camera body on the mark iii though is a true modern camera body and focus system is good too and the whole camera feels much better than the 1 and 2 and is a good choice for those making money from photography. The 5dsr i havent used but i had the 5ds it is very good too but the images seem to have a lot more contrast applied to them. For me the mark 1 and 2 stand apart in the images they produce. These cameras are hard to use as you go to the older models though. You should be aware though the focus on the mark 1 and 2 is the same and is pretty awful by modern standards.
@@MartinCastein Thank you for the detailed reply!
I wasn't sure if I was imagining the 5DSR producing very clinical images compared to the 6D, but I guess it must be.
Great images Martin ! The colours look stunning SOOC! Do you think they are better than the D800 ? Especially for people ?
For people yes definitely, for landscapes no. 5d ii feels a good generation behind d800 In tech. I mean it’s really basic
@@MartinCastein the colours just look amazing ! I really do struggle with Nikon colours. Always have since my D300s
Nikon can come into it’s own sometimes though but the 5d ii is just very pretty in terms of colour. The camera is very basic though.
@@scottwesterman221 yeah this can be a problem, canon solves the colour issue but introduces new problems like low dynamic range, worse auto focus etc. so you have to choose depending on your needs with the older bodies. Nikon is better for most things that dont include people, i prefer canon for people due to the colour.
@@MartinCastein Hi Martin not sure if you remember our conversations in the past but I have a D800 and in the past have shot budget weddings on a couple of Sony A6000’s ! I was wondering if you like to shoot weddings in Aperture priority ? And also if you think the camera’s focus is good enough to use AF-C or stick with AF-S focus and recompose?
Thanks again
Scott
Hi Martin,
Hope you are doing well.
Your photos are just amazinggg!!
It's a really wonderful video,thank you.
I am amazed to see the great photographs that came straight out of the camera canon 5d mark ii.
I own a canon 5d classic mark i and i love it for portraits of my wife and kid.
I am thinking of buying another camera this week.
Shall i go and buy a canon 6d or canon 5d mark ii?which one do you recommend?
Which camera will give me the best skin tones in portraits?
I would like to use the camera for family portraits and some travel photography sometimes.
Your suggestion will be highly appreciated.
Thank you again🙏
Hi thank you! Well the 6d is a generation newer and he slightly better focus, the 6d is more like the 5d classic in colour the 5d is quite different but in a nice way of its own, has the same focus system as the 5d classic. You can tell the 6d is a bit newer for sure. It’s hard to say really but the 6d is a bit newer and better for it so I’d say 6d
@@MartinCastein ok so i think i will go with the canon 6d.
Thank you very much 🙏
Would you say that there are cameras that are better for different kind of models? Hair colour, skin tones and eye colour could possibly bring out different possitive sides of the sensor.
If I had to guess id say the 5d mark ii would do best with non white skin but im only guessing really. But yes there would be a difference, interesting question.
@@MartinCastein My better half is of Mediterranean origin and I would say that the 5D Mark II is the better choice for portraits of her. But I have colleagues that are from old Scandinavian stock (I’m from Sweden) and they are definitely better portrayed with 5D Mark I.
@@mberggren9768 thats pretty much in line with what i would have expected then.
Martin what about the Adobe Color profile being Adobe's interpretation of the file? Can't you select the camera profiles and try too?
You can try if you like them I actually like the adobe profile on the 5d cameras but do experiment with others too.
Thank You
nice
Thanks
Chévere
How did you set up your camera
Martin... I just bought a 5D2 ! OMG, your videos kill my wallet =D
When I compare 5D3 and 5D2, it's difficult for me to see the differences between the two models. I think that 5D2 is softer with colors tones, specially with red and gray. And it's just a little warmer with brown tone. The 5D3 is more punchy with red tone and more sharp. But sharp isn't important like you learn to us.
I would like to sell my 5D3, but it's faster and more versatile. But maybe I could sell it and keep my 1DX... But... Maybe not.
I just have two hands, but I would keep all my cameras XD
What do you think about 5D2, 5D3 and maybe 1DX ?
Love your work. Thanks for sharing your passion to us
You will see the differences more in different conditions, for example in the middle of the day almost all cameras look identical but as time goes on you see the differences and eventually you can clearly pile the photos into two different groups.With regards to your cameras, keep them all if you can and just wait longer to get new ones, Ive regretted most of the sales ive made of camera gear.
@@MartinCastein I understand. Thanks for your reply 🙏
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Thanks Paul!
I am a little confused. How are those no edit photos? They look like raw files with adobe profile added in Lightroom. Wouldn’t a jpeg show us no edit photos?
JPEGs are edited by the camera. Everything is edited to some degree no matter what but the least edited is a raw file straight from camera.
Sorry if I caused any grief Martin. I didn't realise linking an article would trigger the youtubes.
Oh don’t worry it just goes into a different list and I forget to check in there, it’s no issue 🙂
Great photos. What color profile do you use, standard or natural I guess?
Thanks, neutral. But these are raw files not jpegs
not very good edits at the end (at the beginning, the ones with 0 adjustments are perfect!), IMO; blown highlights and bad WB. Or maybe it's that your monitor is too 'forgiving'...
Another good upload Martin. Are you familiar with 'kit-cat' portrait style ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit-cat_portrait
Sorry Arthur, this got held for review for the link so i didnt see it, I remember this i learnt about it ages ago but had forgotten but yes I like that with the showing of hands still.
I hate editing photos my legs go numb
Thats fair enough! i quite enjoy it but i can see why people dont