@@RaindropConstruction But the original comment is not dumb. If you wire direct to battery.. u woud not need one if it was already built in.. if it is connectet through a switch panel (if the panel dont have fuses) u need it. But if the panel has fuses before the switch.. it would be wate to add a secondary fuse on the same cable 🤣 as long it dosent have the chance to jump over to the rest of the system its okei.. Me personally have panel with fuses, nothing goes direct on battery. Everything goes through fuses on the panel. And even if my battery short.. it will blow all fuses in the panel, and everything would be dead... no fire... or at least it shoud not. Haha. But ofc the safest to do is always to add a fuse to the fat red cable to your battery.. this way it cant go wrong. And it will be a much smaller job to fix problem if u have a short... so yes im also gonna install one. I dont need it, but i want it for convinience if all hell breaks lose
It's not a dumb question, but it's a similar question as why wouldn't it just come with its own battery? You're buying a DIY solution as opposed to a meticulously made jakery or bluetti system. This gives you more control of what you want to do and doesn't charge you out the bumb for all the tiny little features if you're capable of doing them yourself. There are some other reasons but I consider this the most practical answer to your question, which is a great, valid question.
Let me just add on to that, as an electrical professional, there's a lot of systems that we use that could come with more built in, but these guys make a lot of money charging for the same equipment they've been making years and years and years😂 They think "if it ain't broke don't fix it.. just charge more"
I bought one of these plus the remote for it as well, only to find out the remote does NOT work with the new black inverters, only the old blue ones. then why put an Rj11 adaptor socket in them if there is no remote available for them? or am I missing something here Adventure Kings?
tis true.. they have no remote yet. took them ages to make one for the old inverter models so 12 months from now we might have an option with the new inverters lol
With my car running and using an 1100w appliance it causes my 100 amp circuit breaker to trip between my starter bat and isolator. Please help. However if I by pass the dcdc charger amd plug directly to the battery box it won’t throw it but the engine running won’t keep up with the inverter and just turns off. This is so frustrating.
Hi there, For a shorter term installation that should be fine, however for longer term installations having the fuse there is always good for peace of mind, though not critical. Regards, Andrew
Hey love the vid, where you install the inverter to the mounting board. Is there any videos or explanations about these fitouts. I have a canopy similar and are keen to do the same thing
Purchased this inverter and connected 150A circuit breaker between inverter and battery connecting with the cables that came with the inverter. When i connect my 1200w pizza oven to the inverter the fuse blows after only a minute and cables are hot. Why???
Hi there, It may be that the peak draw on the oven may be going over the maximum for the system, though without being able to test it directly we've only got a hypothetical understanding of the situation. Regards, Andrew
Hi there, Thank you for the follow up, while there is a spin-up you're generally looking at a roughly .5 second wait from boot to ready to use. Regards, Andrew
Hi there, Thank you for the comment, I can advise that the shown unit would be the Altronics Chassis Mounted Fuse Block, however we would for this installation recommend an MRBF fuse block which are made for being set to terminals and would get you far better mileage. Regards, Andrew
Woud I need the mega fuse if I’m planning on connecting the inverter to a battery box? If so do I put it on the battery terminal or the box terminal? Thanks
Hi there, We would strongly recommend the inverter to be closely attached directly to the battery, with this we would also recommend having a fuse between the battery and inverter. Regards, Courtney
Hi there, I can advise that these will comfortably run most units up to 1200w, anything at or above that level you would need to check their peak draw as some units can use anywhere from 150% to 200% their continuous listed draw on start up. Regards, Andrew
Hi there, This does not require to be earthed as our inverters are equipotentially bonded, the process works by connecting exposed parts to an earthing system (also known as a grounding system). Regards, Courtney
Hi there, In this vehicle set up we have a solar system that runs through one of our MPPT regulators that keeps the battery topped up between usage. Cheers, Andrew
@AdventureKings thanks for the reply. I am trying to work out how I could run a 4000w pure sine wave inverter from a leisure battery. It would have to be moved around though in a box with wheels. To reach places far from the van.
Hi there, It's perfectly fine for use, we wouldn't recommend continuous use, however as with all such 12v set ups it's always about budgeting your power to ensure you don't cut out when you need it. Regards, Andrew
Heys mate quick question im hoping you can help me with. How do you rate this older unit to the new current model? Im currently about to get my hands on an unopened brand new kings1500W Pure Sine Inverter like the one in this vid and wanted to know if its worth me using or buy a new current model. 🙏
Hi, All of the Kings inverters comply with AS/NZS 4763:2011 Safety of portable inverters and both the Black and Bluie 1500W are awesome units. The blue model offers two outlets (though still only rated to a maximum of 1500W combined) and works with the Kings inverter remote, plus it's aligned with the 500W and 3000W models. but in terms of overall, they're very similar. Plenty of people still use the black one with zero worries, so if you're happy with it, there's no need to upgrade! Cheers, Courtney
Ha, Just watched this one and didn’t see the earth installed on the 240v ac side, is it part of the 12v dc negative or is it not needed, double insulated or something? Thanks
Just keep in mind that your cabling is matched to the power draw of the inverter and the fuse or circuit breaker is matched with the size and length of the cable to protect it in case of a short. I'm not sure about the smaller diameter negative cable - my understanding of electrical theory is that the smaller negative cable will bottleneck the circuit. Also, if you're using a crappy lithium battery with a BMS that sometimes trips under the load of a blender starting up, then an easy-to-reset circuit breaker that caps the possible inverter power draw a bit is much easier than getting external power to the battery to reset the BMS, especially in a camper.
These kings batteries have a 100ah max continuous discharge and 160ah 10 second max pulse discharge so not so crappy compared to 90% of other lithium batteries on the market so could probably handle your blender start up !
@@michaelsrowland 500W / 12V = 41.7A, for which 6G should be perfect and have some headroom to minimise voltage drop in case the inverter is not right next to the battery. You can Google "Cable Ampacity" if you want to work this out in future.
I have seen you use the big fuse on a couple of your videos yet I can’t seem to find it at Adventure Kings stores. Where can these be purchased from ? Thanks
Why can’t they just have a complete kit to do everything instead of only finding out you need some fuse or extra wire and you are stuck half way through your build
The only problem i see with this install is he hooked the main battery feed to the same side as the inverter so the inverter will still get power from the main battery even if the fuse is popped
Hi Tony, Yes! We've just released a new model. You can check it out here - www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/kings-1500w-pure-sine-wave-inverter-safe-reliable-240v-power-in-your-vehicle-campsite.html Cheers, Mia
Help please. I have this kings battery box with Inverter. Set up as a second auxilary battery which charges up when driving. I connected a solar panel with a solar controller via the anderson plug while stationery to see if it would charge 2nd battery and blew a fuse at my car battery end and flattened car battery. Can you think why? I could hear the isolater relay working (clicking) so not sure how it all works if solar attached. I wasn't drawing power from second battery at the time. Was just working out if it all worked.
When I connect my inverter to the battery it gives of of a spark my system is all kings 100 amp hour lithium and 1500 inverter am I doing any thing wrong cheers mate
Hi there, In order to prevent a live circuit sparking remove the cable fuse and only return into the fuse holder once all wiring is connected. Regards, Courtney
I’ve got an exchange in the morning from number to my dad‘s inverter plugged in to my dad‘s room plugged into my room not in the bathroom because there is no plugs not put into the Fishtank spoken to 15 fish tanks in my room another fishing for Amapola Indiana Fishtank in plugged in 4:29
Can you run the ground from the inverter just to the vehicle somewhere?? Or does it have to go to the battery??? I keep seeing both. And what's the benefit of each if any??
I run mine to a chassis ground, best bet is to check it with a multimeter if the is a voltage difference between the negative terminal and the chassis ground I would change my earth
I thought you were going to talk about how many watts/ battery/ amps etc it is needed to run this
Why wouldn't the inverter just have a fuse already??
You want the wire going to your inverter to be fused in case there is a short a long the way
@@RaindropConstruction
But the original comment is not dumb. If you wire direct to battery.. u woud not need one if it was already built in.. if it is connectet through a switch panel (if the panel dont have fuses) u need it. But if the panel has fuses before the switch.. it would be wate to add a secondary fuse on the same cable 🤣 as long it dosent have the chance to jump over to the rest of the system its okei..
Me personally have panel with fuses, nothing goes direct on battery. Everything goes through fuses on the panel. And even if my battery short.. it will blow all fuses in the panel, and everything would be dead... no fire... or at least it shoud not. Haha.
But ofc the safest to do is always to add a fuse to the fat red cable to your battery.. this way it cant go wrong. And it will be a much smaller job to fix problem if u have a short... so yes im also gonna install one.
I dont need it, but i want it for convinience if all hell breaks lose
If the invertor had a fuse and it blows u have to open it up to replace the fuse 2:31 @user-zj1ry8wz1z
It's not a dumb question, but it's a similar question as why wouldn't it just come with its own battery? You're buying a DIY solution as opposed to a meticulously made jakery or bluetti system.
This gives you more control of what you want to do and doesn't charge you out the bumb for all the tiny little features if you're capable of doing them yourself.
There are some other reasons but I consider this the most practical answer to your question, which is a great, valid question.
Let me just add on to that, as an electrical professional, there's a lot of systems that we use that could come with more built in, but these guys make a lot of money charging for the same equipment they've been making years and years and years😂
They think "if it ain't broke don't fix it.. just charge more"
its so good to be able to buy stuff watch stuff then put in stuff cause of watchin and listenin to stuff then ya go buy stuff
From home depot? Wire guage wat size
Can the inverter be run through the 12v battery Monitor system
I bought one of these plus the remote for it as well, only to find out the remote does NOT work with the new black inverters, only the old blue ones. then why put an Rj11 adaptor socket in them if there is no remote available for them? or am I missing something here Adventure Kings?
tis true.. they have no remote yet. took them ages to make one for the old inverter models so 12 months from now we might have an option with the new inverters lol
With my car running and using an 1100w appliance it causes my 100 amp circuit breaker to trip between my starter bat and isolator. Please help. However if I by pass the dcdc charger amd plug directly to the battery box it won’t throw it but the engine running won’t keep up with the inverter and just turns off. This is so frustrating.
Fuse size?
What size are the +ve and -ve terminals on the inverter and what size lugs would they fit?
Hi there,
For our 500W inverters the terminal sizes are M8 and for our 1500W and 3000W inverters the terminals are size M10.
Regards, Courtney
Thanks
Have adventure kings made a remote for this one yet
So the existing power wire is what recharges the lithium battery when it gets low? And is the power wire connected to the car battery by engine?
Hi there,
That is correct, but the power wire is connected to the alternator through the DCDC charger.
Regards, Courtney
Hi do I need to put circuit breaker or fuse if I connect the inverter to the terminal on battery box considering the box already has circuit breaker?
Hi there,
For a shorter term installation that should be fine, however for longer term installations having the fuse there is always good for peace of mind, though not critical.
Regards, Andrew
Hey love the vid, where you install the inverter to the mounting board. Is there any videos or explanations about these fitouts. I have a canopy similar and are keen to do the same thing
Did you ever get any feed back on the canopy fitout? I’m looking to do something similar and this system looks perfect
Purchased this inverter and connected 150A circuit breaker between inverter and battery connecting with the cables that came with the inverter. When i connect my 1200w pizza oven to the inverter the fuse blows after only a minute and cables are hot. Why???
Hi there,
It may be that the peak draw on the oven may be going over the maximum for the system, though without being able to test it directly we've only got a hypothetical understanding of the situation.
Regards, Andrew
Did you or do you need to precharge the capacitor before use?
Hi there,
Thank you for the follow up, while there is a spin-up you're generally looking at a roughly .5 second wait from boot to ready to use.
Regards, Andrew
What is the brand of the fuse holder for + battery post please?
Hi there,
Thank you for the comment, I can advise that the shown unit would be the Altronics Chassis Mounted Fuse Block, however we would for this installation recommend an MRBF fuse block which are made for being set to terminals and would get you far better mileage.
Regards, Andrew
What gage of wires are you using????
Hi there,
We recommend a 150a fuse for our 1500W inverter!
Cheers, Courtney
Woud I need the mega fuse if I’m planning on connecting the inverter to a battery box? If so do I put it on the battery terminal or the box terminal? Thanks
Hi there,
We would strongly recommend the inverter to be closely attached directly to the battery, with this we would also recommend having a fuse between the battery and inverter.
Regards, Courtney
Hi thanks for the vid. i need to power a speaker and mixer outdoors. could you recommend a set up please?
What kind of metal should the stud be
Heavy Metal , such as Pantera or Slipknot
Would this run a 30watt appliance ?
Hi there,
I can advise that these will comfortably run most units up to 1200w, anything at or above that level you would need to check their peak draw as some units can use anywhere from 150% to 200% their continuous listed draw on start up.
Regards, Andrew
Have you connected your neg/ground cable from the inverter to the car battery or another location in the vehicle?
Hi there,
This does not require to be earthed as our inverters are equipotentially bonded, the process works by connecting exposed parts to an earthing system (also known as a grounding system).
Regards, Courtney
How long would that battery last without a recharge?
Hi there,
This would depend on how much power you are drawing from your battery.
Regards, Courtney
If I want to keep this connected to my battery box permanently do I still need to add a fuse?
Hi there, as the video advises the installation process, a fuse is not needed in this case. We hope this has assisted.
@@AdventureKings What's the reason for this? Is there a 100AH fuse hidden in the box somewhere? Genuinely curious thanks!
How do you charge the battery?
Hi there,
In this vehicle set up we have a solar system that runs through one of our MPPT regulators that keeps the battery topped up between usage.
Cheers, Andrew
@AdventureKings thanks for the reply. I am trying to work out how I could run a 4000w pure sine wave inverter from a leisure battery. It would have to be moved around though in a box with wheels. To reach places far from the van.
Why won’t the Kings remote switch work on the 1500 W inverter?
Hi there,
Our remotes work with our new blue model 1500W inverter!
Regards, Courtney
Is it wise to power a 1500w inverter off a 12v battery? Considering the high amp required? I'm confused..
Hi there,
It's perfectly fine for use, we wouldn't recommend continuous use, however as with all such 12v set ups it's always about budgeting your power to ensure you don't cut out when you need it.
Regards, Andrew
What size cable would be required for a 500w inverter
Great explanation. Where do you get the fuse box and circuit breaker from?
did you ever figure this out?
@@Scaped they sell them at Jaycar
Amazon was great for this and cheap and well made.
I’ve got a small inverter 2k just running from extension cable 5:07
Is there a remote for this yet?
I got told Feb there will be one
What’s the point of a remote anyway?
Heys mate quick question im hoping you can help me with. How do you rate this older unit to the new current model? Im currently about to get my hands on an unopened brand new kings1500W Pure Sine Inverter like the one in this vid and wanted to know if its worth me using or buy a new current model. 🙏
Hi,
All of the Kings inverters comply with AS/NZS 4763:2011 Safety of portable inverters and both the Black and Bluie 1500W are awesome units. The blue model offers two outlets (though still only rated to a maximum of 1500W combined) and works with the Kings inverter remote, plus it's aligned with the 500W and 3000W models. but in terms of overall, they're very similar.
Plenty of people still use the black one with zero worries, so if you're happy with it, there's no need to upgrade!
Cheers,
Courtney
@@AdventureKings 🙏
Ha,
Just watched this one and didn’t see the earth installed on the 240v ac side, is it part of the 12v dc negative or is it not needed, double insulated or something?
Thanks
I want to know this as well is this second earth is necessary or not
How long was the replaced stud to fit the mega fuse?
I woulda put little spacers under the inverter to help airflow cause most have a intake slot on the bottom.
This one has cooling fans on the end.
@seanlowe4785 intake slots are still on the bottom
Hi. Been doing a bit of research on inverters. Wouldn’t the 1500w be too powerful for the 120ah lithium? Or ok. Thankyou.
Hi Paul,
Unfortunately inverters draw a large amount of power all at once which will trip the temperature sensor in the cells.
Regards, Courtney
Hi will this in Inverter run a 2.2kw electric air compressor??
no, a 1500w inverter will not run 2200w compressor
No you need a 2500w or more inverter to run 2200w
The night is about to get loud in my car at 1am in the city LOL
Just keep in mind that your cabling is matched to the power draw of the inverter and the fuse or circuit breaker is matched with the size and length of the cable to protect it in case of a short.
I'm not sure about the smaller diameter negative cable - my understanding of electrical theory is that the smaller negative cable will bottleneck the circuit.
Also, if you're using a crappy lithium battery with a BMS that sometimes trips under the load of a blender starting up, then an easy-to-reset circuit breaker that caps the possible inverter power draw a bit is much easier than getting external power to the battery to reset the BMS, especially in a camper.
These kings batteries have a 100ah max continuous discharge and 160ah 10 second max pulse discharge so not so crappy compared to 90% of other lithium batteries on the market so could probably handle your blender start up !
Yeah I think Kings have stupidly cheaped out by including a 6AWG cable, by my math they should have included a 4AWG to avoid any issues.
What size cable for a 500 w inverter ?
@@michaelsrowland 500W / 12V = 41.7A, for which 6G should be perfect and have some headroom to minimise voltage drop in case the inverter is not right next to the battery. You can Google "Cable Ampacity" if you want to work this out in future.
I have seen you use the big fuse on a couple of your videos yet I can’t seem to find it at Adventure Kings stores. Where can these be purchased from ?
Thanks
did you ever find out?
@@Scaped Jaycar but online only
Why can’t they just have a complete kit to do everything instead of only finding out you need some fuse or extra wire and you are stuck half way through your build
Nice video, but I don't understand why you play loud music
Hi there,
Thank you for taking the time to leave this feedback on the audio balance.
Cheers, Andrew
The only problem i see with this install is he hooked the main battery feed to the same side as the inverter so the inverter will still get power from the main battery even if the fuse is popped
He should have put the main cable on the battery side of the fuse block so only the inverter current draw was fused.
Yup. Was looking for this comment lol
How’d you guys make the mounting board? Thanks
Why does the cable spark when you connect it to inverter
Capacitor in the inverter
Is that a new inverter?
Hi Tony,
Yes! We've just released a new model. You can check it out here - www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/kings-1500w-pure-sine-wave-inverter-safe-reliable-240v-power-in-your-vehicle-campsite.html
Cheers, Mia
@@AdventureKings so I believe the old version with the slopped ends used to have two outlet sockets. Why has this version only got one?
Help please. I have this kings battery box with Inverter. Set up as a second auxilary battery which charges up when driving. I connected a solar panel with a solar controller via the anderson plug while stationery to see if it would charge 2nd battery and blew a fuse at my car battery end and flattened car battery. Can you think why? I could hear the isolater relay working (clicking) so not sure how it all works if solar attached. I wasn't drawing power from second battery at the time. Was just working out if it all worked.
When I connect my inverter to the battery it gives of of a spark my system is all kings 100 amp hour lithium and 1500 inverter am I doing any thing wrong cheers mate
Hi there,
In order to prevent a live circuit sparking remove the cable fuse and only return into the fuse holder once all wiring is connected.
Regards, Courtney
how to turn my battery off
Hi there, We recommend to use an isolation device.Regards, Rachael
I’ve got an exchange in the morning from number to my dad‘s inverter plugged in to my dad‘s room plugged into my room not in the bathroom because there is no plugs not put into the Fishtank spoken to 15 fish tanks in my room another fishing for Amapola Indiana Fishtank in plugged in 4:29
Jackson Sarah Anderson Brian Thomas Matthew
That's wrong. Don't install an inverter in a hot area like the canopy on your ute. Insulated caravan is fine.
Can you run the ground from the inverter just to the vehicle somewhere?? Or does it have to go to the battery??? I keep seeing both. And what's the benefit of each if any??
I run mine to a chassis ground, best bet is to check it with a multimeter if the is a voltage difference between the negative terminal and the chassis ground I would change my earth