I completely agree with the damage some of the supports do. It’s more needed for them to be viable in 5v5, plus they still ultimately have to focus on healing the team.
@@windwalkerrangerdm You’re right, let’s just let supports get completely dominated when isolated. Sounds totally fair. The game totally doesn’t cater to dps with the reduced CC and all. Totally not a skill issue on your part
@@StoicScape219 Why are you so hurt buddy? Haven't you played any moba? Any turn based game with classes? Or even, Paladins for instance? Do you ever hear Paladins players worry about the support chars being too weak overall? I have been producing games professionally for 6 years now. Granted, I'm mainly a developer but 6 years is a long enough time to spend with game designers, so I know what I'm talking about, OK? This corner blizzard have found themselves in is due to the playerbase actually. The playerbase of the game doesn't have enough people who would play support for the sake of supporting the team. They would feel inferior when their dps teammates get all the kills. They are (on average, mind you) incapable of getting satisfaction from a team victory where their contributions were essential. So blizzard has to give them kill potential, which is quite different from "a chance to fight back". Just play paladins and you will see how "4 chars with shields on the game" doesn't break the fun, and how supports can be support without killing, and how they can also fight back under certain situations.
@@windwalkerrangerdm You’re out here supporting the idea of purely supporting and heal botting basically? That’s nice. Last i checked the community as a whole, Blizzard included purposely wanted to move away from that. They purposely wanted to make the game more brawl and purposely gave supports more opportunity to defend themselves due to lack of protection. Nobody wants to play a game just to passively contribute and get dove on all game because targeting supports is an easy solution every game. If you’re a developer then stick to your coding because your sense of game balance and business sense is dog shit. Nobody would play support to have a bad experience and have minimal impact. If it were up to you every support would be a bot mercy player and just like on launch, nobody would play the role. Even now support has the shortest queue time because hardly anyone really wants to play it in comparison to other roles. You don’t even know the intended direction of OW2 so how are you going to argue about it 😂 Also, fuck paladins no wonder you have that skill issue killing supports. You just don’t like targets that can hit back. Asking me why I’m hurt when you’re typing up an essay for me. Don’t forget your MLA format little buddy 🤣
Pretty much every support aside from mercy is a dps in the new format with maybe the only other exception being brig because of how high her skill cieling is to be useful
Nah, Ana its better for multitasking, she can do damage while healing in the backline, your whole team will be always in your line of sight, with Bap you need to be in the frontline with your Tank if you also want to do damage and with that you cant see what its happening on your back, maybe your team its dying because of flankers.
My friends got me into this game coming from apex legends and also starting to learn mnk. Love this game so far. Ashe so far is my fav but this character seems like I need to try him 🙏🏽
my worst fear is having a dps moira, bap, and zenyatta that ignores their team for an extra pick. in the end i’m glad that your teammates called you out for heals but geeze, after playing overwatch for nearly three years, I’ve seen so many more dps supports since the release of ow2
tbf, the whole point of zen is that he’s basically a dps in the support slot. He can heal passively so he’s wasting lot’s of damage if he doesn’t focus on killing.
I think he means that with Zen you can just throw a healing orb on someone and just forget about it, you don't need to actively focus on heals while it's attached to a teammate
Tim getting carried in every fps game and thinking he deserves to be in that rank is hilarious
On god
that was so fun to watch live, glad you're helping little timmy in his matches, we all know my man really needs it.
Lol at 4:05 he literally thought he was on Soldier and right clicked the enemies down the stairs
baps heal and dmg output is fucking incredible
“sUpPoRtS ArE SuPpOsEd To HeAl OnLy” -jay3
I completely agree with the damage some of the supports do. It’s more needed for them to be viable in 5v5, plus they still ultimately have to focus on healing the team.
Nah it's just garbage game design.
@@windwalkerrangerdm skill issue
@@windwalkerrangerdm You’re right, let’s just let supports get completely dominated when isolated. Sounds totally fair. The game totally doesn’t cater to dps with the reduced CC and all. Totally not a skill issue on your part
@@StoicScape219 Why are you so hurt buddy? Haven't you played any moba? Any turn based game with classes? Or even, Paladins for instance? Do you ever hear Paladins players worry about the support chars being too weak overall?
I have been producing games professionally for 6 years now. Granted, I'm mainly a developer but 6 years is a long enough time to spend with game designers, so I know what I'm talking about, OK?
This corner blizzard have found themselves in is due to the playerbase actually. The playerbase of the game doesn't have enough people who would play support for the sake of supporting the team. They would feel inferior when their dps teammates get all the kills. They are (on average, mind you) incapable of getting satisfaction from a team victory where their contributions were essential. So blizzard has to give them kill potential, which is quite different from "a chance to fight back".
Just play paladins and you will see how "4 chars with shields on the game" doesn't break the fun, and how supports can be support without killing, and how they can also fight back under certain situations.
@@windwalkerrangerdm You’re out here supporting the idea of purely supporting and heal botting basically? That’s nice. Last i checked the community as a whole, Blizzard included purposely wanted to move away from that. They purposely wanted to make the game more brawl and purposely gave supports more opportunity to defend themselves due to lack of protection. Nobody wants to play a game just to passively contribute and get dove on all game because targeting supports is an easy solution every game. If you’re a developer then stick to your coding because your sense of game balance and business sense is dog shit. Nobody would play support to have a bad experience and have minimal impact. If it were up to you every support would be a bot mercy player and just like on launch, nobody would play the role. Even now support has the shortest queue time because hardly anyone really wants to play it in comparison to other roles. You don’t even know the intended direction of OW2 so how are you going to argue about it 😂
Also, fuck paladins no wonder you have that skill issue killing supports. You just don’t like targets that can hit back. Asking me why I’m hurt when you’re typing up an essay for me. Don’t forget your MLA format little buddy 🤣
Pretty much every support aside from mercy is a dps in the new format with maybe the only other exception being brig because of how high her skill cieling is to be useful
Damn, now I wanna see Jay climb to GM on Bapt. He's cracked.
Sadly I don’t think support is fun to play as a dps main. Ana is fun tho
@@Jay3Reacts with one less tank , everyone is bloodthirsty to be kill supports and it does become unfun at times
@@Jeremy-ul4ph iit sad tenemy can just dive in healer and got flame by team so stressful :/
Nah, Ana its better for multitasking, she can do damage while healing in the backline, your whole team will be always in your line of sight, with Bap you need to be in the frontline with your Tank if you also want to do damage and with that you cant see what its happening on your back, maybe your team its dying because of flankers.
I main bap and you lowkey taught me something I needed to lookout for so appreciate it king!
Like what?
@@11bangbang84 people to kill
@@11bangbang84 dis
My friends got me into this game coming from apex legends and also starting to learn mnk. Love this game so far. Ashe so far is my fav but this character seems like I need to try him 🙏🏽
And this is why bap is my main
Everyone complain about dps moira. but everyonne know the true dps support is baptiste
wtf was tim doing this whole game
As A baptiste main I approve
Bap has always been a dps character now that there is less shields he can just reek havoc
youre missing out Jay... my gold comp games come with a dps moira
This is how Jay is playing and Tim is still losing 😅
my worst fear is having a dps moira, bap, and zenyatta that ignores their team for an extra pick. in the end i’m glad that your teammates called you out for heals but geeze, after playing overwatch for nearly three years, I’ve seen so many more dps supports since the release of ow2
tbf, the whole point of zen is that he’s basically a dps in the support slot. He can heal passively so he’s wasting lot’s of damage if he doesn’t focus on killing.
In a normal match I agree but sometimes you get that terrible dps player and you gotta try to make up for it
@@aregularhuman4776 he heals other characters passively?
I think he means that with Zen you can just throw a healing orb on someone and just forget about it, you don't need to actively focus on heals while it's attached to a teammate
@@stargazerl2958 he can throw the orb and than just forget about it. not an actual passive but it’s technically working passively
How does this man take down a reaper like it's nothing when I get absolutely rinsed by them if I even peek around a corner next to one
movement my doggy
@@jerrichkock7023 Played Bap like Jay today and rinsed a reaper myself :D
This character is like lucio woke up one day and chose violence
Lucio can 1 burst all headshos, boop melee a low hp target and wreck them. Still does a lot just harder to aim with.
Bap is soldier 2.0
Jay you don’t need to reload after every few bullets you still have 20 bullets and 9 heals
As a bap main I approve this video LUL
7:20 Mercy was like: Yeah, keep dps
(No offence btw, just a fun fact)
Did Jay and Tim always play together or is this new?
No Tim is playing with Jay to get boosted out of gold rank.
They used to play years ago when Jay3 was J3sus
But nothing has changed. Tim is still needing to be boosted out of gold lol
This is disgusting to watch lmao, now I know what people mean when they say most support players are healbots. Just a WTF carry hahaha
just like ana you can heal by just shooting but you seme to be using right click more ot heal