Hey guys, so it has come to my attention that I might have somewhat misinterpreted Iron Inquisitors defense power. So I was under the impression that basically anyone could Mastermind onto him, however it does not say anything like "regardless of point value or keywords" or anything like that. So while all friendlies adjacent to him can use Mastermind on characters with Masters of Evil keyword, it looks like they still have to be higher points or share a keyword per the normal rules of Mastermind. Now this actually only came up like once during the states event, but you will see it happen in one of my next gameplay videos because I don't think either of us were aware of that. I don't think that it would have changed the outcome of that game much at least, but my apologies if I spread any misinformation about how his power works. Just wanted to let you all know, cause knowing is half the battle! Lol
A nicely timely report as I also played a Symbiote team at the UK Nationals last weekend. Mine wasn't so complex but it was a proper theme team with the Symbiote keyword. Its core was Prime Spider-Man and Carnage Silver Surfer too but the other team members were Iron Man and Superior Iron Man who have Extremis/Extrembiote schticks too. They were equipped with the All-Black Necrosword, Black Symbiote, Darkhold and the Emotional Modifier so it had quite a dark theme too. It did ok, scoring 3-1 in the Swiss but failing to make the cut as there were four other 3-1s with more points. So, it seems that I need to play faster to wreak more carnage and so keeping the complexity level down is important. I had a similar deck of Tarot cards but should perhaps cut those as they slow the game down and tend to be two-edged.
Lucas! You piloted this team fantastically into the top 4! I think this team definitely could have made it into the final round with a little more practice against the “less common” meta teams. That map looks great in your video, btw 🎉
Congrats on top 4! Definitely a nasty team, played a win a map this last weekend and got 2nd place by 5 points... which would have been a much bigger stretch had the first place winners last opponent hadnt randomly conceeded mjd match for no reason other than he was done playing the game that day. Have a big icq this weekend and i anticipate seeing similiar set ups, ive had to fight prime spidey both in tournaments as well as casually with friends and ive never been able to take him down thanks to his defense ability and generally his black or red symbiote most people run on him. It might not be the most meta team out there, but i plan on representing what i feel is a pretty slept on team which is detectives, i have a first round bye going into it so wish me luck!
If you could I would try to get Mephisto. Spidey with Mephisto is constantly healing Spidey that 1 damage he took and removing a token from him to allow him to do 2 actions every turn. It’s just an insane combo!
Question: whats your opinion about taking Hero Clix to to the videogames. Why a game with 21 years of life havent get a good version on PC or IPHONES? Perhaps a automatized simulator like the YGOPRO on Yu-gi-oh TCG.
It would be great if they had something like that. We do have Roll20 that people use to play online, and it's OK, but an actual dedicated online version of the game would be nice.
No that's different. Precision strike says damage from this attack can't be reduced below 1, the sword says during the attack, they can't reduce damage below 1. Slightly different wording but knockback isn't damage from an attack so it does not work with Precision strike.
Love the tip on placing the shipping container under characters, but I have a question. Is it the new text on Super Strength that allows you to both pick up AND place the Terrain Marker in the same turn? I'm wondering if the text supercedes 17.8 in the Comprehensive. Hope that makes sense! I want to try it this weekend, but I want to be able to back it up with the rules. I'm sure I'm just missing something. 😊
No, what let's spiderman do it specifically is that he has sidestep and charge. You can only pock up or put down an item once per move, so he can pick it up when moving with sidestep, and then drop it when moving with charge.
@@HeroclixHeadquarters Ahhhh, gotcha. I figured that even though Sidestep is a free action, that picking the marker up counted towards the turn and would not allow you to place it. Thank you so much! 🤜
Can you explain stop clicks? There seems to be more and more of them recently. You mentioned that knock back can take out a stop click? I’ve definitely been playing this wrong haha 😂
Well, knockback damage is separate from the attacks damage. So for example, if you hit a character for 4 and they click it like 1,2,3 and reveal a STOP click, then they will stop turning the dial and not click the 4th click of damage. Then you would apply knockback and assuming they are knocked off elevated or into a wall, etc. They would then be dealt 1 knockback damage, which, if they don't have a reducer, will KO them. The Necroswords wording also doesn't let them reduce damage below 1 during the whole attack sequence, which includes any knockback damage, which is really good because usually STOP clicks come with some sort of reducer.
No Porter twins? That's a rarity. :p On a more serious note, I have noticed you seem to prefer building your teams with a large selection of figures on their lowest cost. The Surfer, though, is easy to understand why as he can heal back to full points. Is it your go-to tactic? Is that the current meta for the competitions you participate in? Do you also need to have the full "power 6" of abilities? (Perplex, Prob, Outwit, Telekinesis, Super Strength and Leadership.) I am curious to know as I've just started my own Heroclix collection.
I don't think Porter existed when I played this team, lol. And yes, 90% of the time, figures are just better at their lower lines because you spend less on whatever cool abilities they may have, therefore having more room for even more good figures to team them with. For me, perplex, prob, outwit, tk, and leadership are the main powers to have. Super strength is nice but not always necessary. Outwit isn't exactly a must-have right now, meta wise, either. And I love TK, but depending on the team, you can play without it. Above all, though, unless you're playing a one man army, you must have leadership. Otherwise, you're doing at least 1 action less than your opponent every turn, and with how much you can do nowadays with 1 action... you will probably lose, lol.
@@HeroclixHeadquarters The Deadpool/Weapon X set has certainly shown how useful Probability control can be. That is undeniable. Looking forward to your breakdown of that set once it is fully out. The unique Magneto is really nice.
Hey guys, so it has come to my attention that I might have somewhat misinterpreted Iron Inquisitors defense power. So I was under the impression that basically anyone could Mastermind onto him, however it does not say anything like "regardless of point value or keywords" or anything like that. So while all friendlies adjacent to him can use Mastermind on characters with Masters of Evil keyword, it looks like they still have to be higher points or share a keyword per the normal rules of Mastermind. Now this actually only came up like once during the states event, but you will see it happen in one of my next gameplay videos because I don't think either of us were aware of that. I don't think that it would have changed the outcome of that game much at least, but my apologies if I spread any misinformation about how his power works. Just wanted to let you all know, cause knowing is half the battle! Lol
I'd expect a team this expensive to get at least top 8. Well done. It's like everything I hate to see on the other side of the table.
As someone who hasn’t played competitively this video was super interesting and helpful. Thank you!
No problem!
Agreed
A nicely timely report as I also played a Symbiote team at the UK Nationals last weekend. Mine wasn't so complex but it was a proper theme team with the Symbiote keyword. Its core was Prime Spider-Man and Carnage Silver Surfer too but the other team members were Iron Man and Superior Iron Man who have Extremis/Extrembiote schticks too. They were equipped with the All-Black Necrosword, Black Symbiote, Darkhold and the Emotional Modifier so it had quite a dark theme too. It did ok, scoring 3-1 in the Swiss but failing to make the cut as there were four other 3-1s with more points. So, it seems that I need to play faster to wreak more carnage and so keeping the complexity level down is important. I had a similar deck of Tarot cards but should perhaps cut those as they slow the game down and tend to be two-edged.
Good job at the event Lucas! It was great to meet you.
Thanks man, it was great meeting you too!
Lucas! You piloted this team fantastically into the top 4! I think this team definitely could have made it into the final round with a little more practice against the “less common” meta teams. That map looks great in your video, btw 🎉
Thanks man! And yeah, I think I just need a better plan against mission point teams and super defensive "make you miss" types of teams.
Congrats on top 4! Definitely a nasty team, played a win a map this last weekend and got 2nd place by 5 points... which would have been a much bigger stretch had the first place winners last opponent hadnt randomly conceeded mjd match for no reason other than he was done playing the game that day.
Have a big icq this weekend and i anticipate seeing similiar set ups, ive had to fight prime spidey both in tournaments as well as casually with friends and ive never been able to take him down thanks to his defense ability and generally his black or red symbiote most people run on him.
It might not be the most meta team out there, but i plan on representing what i feel is a pretty slept on team which is detectives, i have a first round bye going into it so wish me luck!
Good luck man! Detectives is a solid keyword to build around
If you could I would try to get Mephisto. Spidey with Mephisto is constantly healing Spidey that 1 damage he took and removing a token from him to allow him to do 2 actions every turn. It’s just an insane combo!
Yeah, I was thinking about switching Faust for mephisto if I can get one.
Question: whats your opinion about taking Hero Clix to to the videogames. Why a game with 21 years of life havent get a good version on PC or IPHONES? Perhaps a automatized simulator like the YGOPRO on Yu-gi-oh TCG.
It would be great if they had something like that. We do have Roll20 that people use to play online, and it's OK, but an actual dedicated online version of the game would be nice.
@@HeroclixHeadquarters Yeah, specially in a game with the complexcity like HC, where the practice is vital for the inmense learning curve.
Love the team man!! That spider man prime is a beast
No that's different. Precision strike says damage from this attack can't be reduced below 1, the sword says during the attack, they can't reduce damage below 1. Slightly different wording but knockback isn't damage from an attack so it does not work with Precision strike.
Love the tip on placing the shipping container under characters, but I have a question. Is it the new text on Super Strength that allows you to both pick up AND place the Terrain Marker in the same turn? I'm wondering if the text supercedes 17.8 in the Comprehensive. Hope that makes sense! I want to try it this weekend, but I want to be able to back it up with the rules. I'm sure I'm just missing something. 😊
No, what let's spiderman do it specifically is that he has sidestep and charge. You can only pock up or put down an item once per move, so he can pick it up when moving with sidestep, and then drop it when moving with charge.
@@HeroclixHeadquarters Ahhhh, gotcha. I figured that even though Sidestep is a free action, that picking the marker up counted towards the turn and would not allow you to place it. Thank you so much! 🤜
Can you explain stop clicks? There seems to be more and more of them recently. You mentioned that knock back can take out a stop click? I’ve definitely been playing this wrong haha 😂
Well, knockback damage is separate from the attacks damage. So for example, if you hit a character for 4 and they click it like 1,2,3 and reveal a STOP click, then they will stop turning the dial and not click the 4th click of damage. Then you would apply knockback and assuming they are knocked off elevated or into a wall, etc. They would then be dealt 1 knockback damage, which, if they don't have a reducer, will KO them. The Necroswords wording also doesn't let them reduce damage below 1 during the whole attack sequence, which includes any knockback damage, which is really good because usually STOP clicks come with some sort of reducer.
@@HeroclixHeadquarters so without the sword how do you kill a character with a stop click and a reducer?
@@caseypamplin6384 Hit em again lol
@@HeroclixHeadquarters I really appreciate the replies haha but now I’m even more confused hahahaha. I think I officially hate Stop Clicks.
@@HeroclixHeadquarters if there’s a click that has impervious and STOP, without the sword how would you kill that click?
No Porter twins? That's a rarity. :p
On a more serious note, I have noticed you seem to prefer building your teams with a large selection of figures on their lowest cost. The Surfer, though, is easy to understand why as he can heal back to full points. Is it your go-to tactic? Is that the current meta for the competitions you participate in? Do you also need to have the full "power 6" of abilities? (Perplex, Prob, Outwit, Telekinesis, Super Strength and Leadership.) I am curious to know as I've just started my own Heroclix collection.
I don't think Porter existed when I played this team, lol. And yes, 90% of the time, figures are just better at their lower lines because you spend less on whatever cool abilities they may have, therefore having more room for even more good figures to team them with. For me, perplex, prob, outwit, tk, and leadership are the main powers to have. Super strength is nice but not always necessary. Outwit isn't exactly a must-have right now, meta wise, either. And I love TK, but depending on the team, you can play without it. Above all, though, unless you're playing a one man army, you must have leadership. Otherwise, you're doing at least 1 action less than your opponent every turn, and with how much you can do nowadays with 1 action... you will probably lose, lol.
@@HeroclixHeadquarters The Deadpool/Weapon X set has certainly shown how useful Probability control can be. That is undeniable. Looking forward to your breakdown of that set once it is fully out. The unique Magneto is really nice.
Where do I find a shipping container?😊
Spider-man beyond amazing starter set
Thank you
Where can I get the shipping container?
It comes in the Spiderman beyond amazing starter set
@@HeroclixHeadquarters Awesome, thank you!