RGF Reme HALO-LED Install
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2020
- RGF Reme HALO-LED Install
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So as per your call to our Tech support today The EAC is not to be wired directly to the transformer unless the air unit is one of the newer units with dry contacts. Alternatively you can use an isolation relay to create dry contacts. The preferable install is to use the Air Switch kit however. Nice save on the airflow direction. And for all of you folks out there reading Do NOT purchase a reme online, No1 We do not warranty any online purchases due to the massive online fraud
No2 We only warranty if installed by a proper licenced HVAC technician
Cant you just wire the 24v circuit to G and C and be done?
@@bobrichcreek4189 No if you wire to g then the unit doesn't work in heat and doesn't cycle off if customer turns fan to on. if it doesn't cycle then it doesn't clean itself
@@geebo47 Thanks Joe I should have clarified I was referring to a H.P application. I didn't think about the fan control in heating. Thanks again for the response.
I have wired them to g and common in electric air handlers and they work fine . And very seldum are the customers going to leave the fan in the on position
@@jacoblowe5424 That is just not true Jacob, Wire the unit correctly and you won't get the callbacks. customers in the south seem to be the only ones who use the unit as it was designed to be used, If you have a customer who wants to run the fan all the time use the proper product. The original Halo
A good technician is one that knows how to correct his mistakes. Utmost respect. Excellent content.
Now that looks like the Cadillac of crawl spaces. Lit up like a ballpark for a night game. Semi reasonable headroom. All it needs is a nice plush carpet on the floor to save your knees.
🇨🇦Signs of a good mechanic, " own your mistakes ". We've all made them , we still make them. Don't be so full of yourself as to be infallible. I like your videos and your style. Good job sir, keep up the good work.
Nice. I never knew how to install those. Really never knew what they did. Great content. Keep cranking em out.
The unit still was mounted upside down and should have been mounted on the opposite side of the unit as well. I was shocked he didn't look at the unit before mounting it. good video on how to "NOT" install the unit.
That is what happens if you don't read the instructions,or look at the airflow arrow on the plastic cover her removed for some reason.
Don't you need the relay switch to properly turn on and off the Halo with the fan?
It's not whether or not you screw-up, but how you recover from it. You made an excellent recovery and left the client with a professional installation. Bravo!
This guy wins the award for best spider hole of the year. JS :)
Thanks for sharing.”you almost screwed up”. But as always you caught yourself.
Thanks for the video. Other install videos don’t mention where to pull the power from which was the piece I was unsure of. Installed it last night.
Did you use the EAC terminal that’s not recommend or another wire/terminal?
all three installs were ok! LOL. sometimes I also like doing things thrice, it usually involves being in a hurry and distracted. :)
So if the unit charges the particles in the supply what happens to them? Assume they go back to the filter on the return?
So if I want to power the Halo off my furnace board, I see 'Neutral' posts, which would take the white wire from the Halo transformer, but then there are 120V posts for 'Heat' and 'Cool' on the board. Do I need to switch the black wire from the Halo transformer to either of these Heat/Cool posts every time the seasons change - depending on if I'm using my heat or A/C? Or will it work to just leave it on either of the posts for all seasons? I'm guessing I need to switch that wire whenever the temperature changes my HVAC needs (winter to summer, summer to winter)
does the filter pull out ok , screws?
Lit up like Walmart. Not bad for a crawl space.
Hell ya wish my last crawl space job was like that.
How would this be wired on a package unit. Trane wcc 048 unit.
You have to wire it to the fan relay bro, the led reme is supposed turn on and off when the blower is activated, give it its own transformer off the breaker then break y going to the condenser if it is an ecm blower.
wow... never seen a crawl space lit up that much before lol, pretty nice.
I probably would have made sure the light worked before installing it lol, never know sometimes.
so a supply plenum w/o insulation??
What they say, If all else fails, Read the instructions. Yeah, it works
I like how you just play it cool and admit to the mistakes that you made that was great thumbs up 👍 🤣😂
On another note,unless you have electrical backround,I find the wiring diagram may throw off some people,W is power,but it is in fact the neutral.
So it's 120 vac?
@@politiciansthrowstones The transformer is ,yes.What I meant was that in their diagram it says Black is common,White is power,what they mean is Black is common to this scenario, and it wires up as black to hot,White to neutral!
Wow. A little Pre planning might have helped.
Hi, my name is Anant from , first of all I like the unit (RGF) , may I asking you regarding installation procedure, how is the unit working when you hooked the wired to AHVAC systems, is it the RGF running all times or its just by automatically on/off my by itself? Thanks
Ah yes your sheet metal skills come shining through. And like any man should do, read the install instructions. Thxs for the vids!
This video irritated me the moment I saw a crawl space that nice, just jealous that's all....then I saw the condensate lines coming off the evaporator coil and it dumb founded me.....how are you supposed to treat that without access let alone where is the SS1??
great video thanks
fellow michigander( kalamazoo) just dropping by for some knowledge, nice work per usual
We have done a few of these since covid hit. Not hard at all to install, I believe you can cut a round hole next time per the instructions.
How do you connect the 24 v wire from the transformer to the air switch
Thank you
I have been looking for a furnace air purifier, UV light, or combo purifier/UV light for months. There are so many to choose from. Can anyone tell me if the Reme HALO-LED is the way to go? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.
Did you ever get an answer here? I’m scheduled to have this installed in my house next week and having second thoughts. I’m skeptical it does what it claims. There aren’t many ways to verify it’s not just snake oil In some way.
Does this stay permanent on the ducts?
I bought one from the A/C guy for $1200 installed, I saw them on Amazon for around $450 so the A/C charged me $750 to install it. It only took him less than an hour to install so $750 in labor sounds like a rip off. He was here installing a couple other things like a surge protector on the A/C compressor and a float system for the air handler. He was in and out in less then 1.5 hours to install everything.
If you had purchased it yourself, maybe, but anytime someone sells you something that they purchased themselves, they need to make at least 50% margin, plus the labor and their overhead (fuel, insurance, taxes...etc)
Depends on where you live. I've worked in areas where if you don't achieve a minimum of 50% return on the job, then you might as well get another job. Although personally, I'd be highly skeptical that he charged you almost triple the price of parts for his labor, so I'm sorry you could have gotten ripped off.
How much would you expect an installation of one of these would be? Already have the product
Depends on your local contractor
Per the install manual...”The Halo-LED cannot be wired directly to the EAC terminal, doing so will damage the unit and void the warranty.”
I’m assuming the transformer can be wired to EAC terminal. The mfr is saying not to wire LED bulb direct to EAC terminal. Correct?
The transformer is wired directly to eac
Thank you.
Correct, it Cannot.
@@MiHeatingGuy NO, as per bulletin DO NOT wire directly to EAC, you may call me at tech support for other options
Now why is it upside down?
Constant power required to transformer, cycle UV with supplied fan relay breaking one leg of 24 volts to UV thru N. O. relay contacts and energizing relays coil with call for equipment fan as per RGF Tec Support Rep. [Mr D]
So very correct Mary, I assume if you called Tech support I spoke with you I am glad you got it
@@geebo47 Good morning Jordon, just want to ensure I am reading this correctly. Constant voltage on supplied transformer and break one leg of the 24v circuit through dry set of contacts (separate relay) closed by the "G" terminal?
Just beware, on the transformer, BLACK is neutral (common) and WHITE is hot, according to the nameplate. Doesn't matter in this instance, but if you were wiring to 208 or 240 you would use NOT white and red or orange, but BLACK and red or orange. Not sure why they didn't adhere to the standard white is neutral. I used a number 51 current relay to sense current in the blower motor common wire. This way no matter what speed it runs at, the current relay switches 120 volts to transformer primary. My motor is not variable speed.
You have to read it because some are different. I have one that I am having trouble wiring, but the white is actually the common and the orange is my 240v. I think it depends. Same product, but the labels or transformers are not all the same.
Early coffee hasn't set in yet lol
Atleast it wasn't a bad oops
Good morning video
You could have just mounted the transformer in the cabinet without the metal box. In a place where you wouldn't have to remove it when you take the blower out on the next service call.
EAC terminals apparently destroy the LED and RGF wont warranty it
That's what i was thinking but i don't use halo
That is correct, however if it is installed by an authorized installer and not purchased online WE will warrantee it, But of course an authorised installer will not directly wire to the EAC
I think you've missed your calling as an artist cuz that whole you cut that could be considered modern art lol :-) :-)
I know we can kind of communicate through the comments... I think you said this was a buddy of yours furnace? I’d really love to see a short version video with an up close view of the wiring process.
Rgf came out with a bulletin that you need to use their air sensing switch for Reme Led to function properly , basically only come on when the fan is running
Basically the same thing when using EAC terminal on board.
No seriously, the bulletin says not to use the eac terminals. They created a $60 dollar pressure switch and call it an air sensing switch. It's actually meant for communicating systems that can't use the relay they include. The relay was meant for non communicating systems with ecm motors and people that run their fan all the time so it can still turn on and off. Rgf said it needs to come on and off with the blower to clean itself.. I think thats bullshit, I think it can't handle having power constantly. They advertise it as a feature to cycle on off but say it must be wired this way.. the fact of the matter is they fucked up. It will damage the unit if it doesn't cycle off. I installed one in March 2020 with the transformer on the eac terminals on my carrier infinity communicating system, which it isn't possible to use the relay, and I have the fan running all the time and it burned out the transformer in probably a month or two. I replaced it and it lasted a month. Then the unit was just Dead. The service bulletin says get this: "must use" - "optional" air sensing switch on communicating systems. I know I've installed more than a dozen on the eac terminals.. this year I'll be going back on warranties.. and this is just for the LED version. The opposite is true for the non led reme-h model, it must have constant 24v all the time and using the eac terminals with that one will ruin it. Anyway it's still a great product.. but get ready for call backs on ecm users..
@@kingcreo2760 NO, just NO do NOT use EAC as told in our bulletin
@@kodieivie The pressure switch kit is $21 your supplier is skinnin you. It does need to cycle, that's how it was designed, you can hear it clean itself every time it cycles. If you want to run the fan constantly then use the proper product the REME-H which is designed to run all the time. the Halo Led is not fucked up it does exactly what it was designed to do. People just need to use the proper product for what they want to do, And you are not the first trying to get it to do something it was not designed to do. I see tons of people trying to install in PKG units, ptaks etc. We make 500 plus products and have a tech support line, Call and ask what the proper product is for your install, don't blame the product for your failure to use and install it properly
@@geebo47 Can any air switch be used or will you only honor the warranty with the HLED-AS?
At least with the large media air filter, the homeowner only has to go into the crawlspace every 9-12 months to change the filter.
Bro my autism was screaming when you were cutting the hole lol
Nice work, but how do you know if the LED works? You didn’t check it outside where you can see if it lights. And obviously it can’t be seen when attached.
Check for approx 0.5 A with a clamp on amp meter.
There is a small LED indicstor light but the connector that will let you know if it is working. Also you can see it working by removing the cap but MUST HAVE GLASSES SPECIFICALLY DESING TO SEE UV LIGHTS, or you it will damage your eyes.
Is that going to run all the time even when blower is off?
Only when the fan has power. At least that's how it should work. So when the system is idling it shouldn't be on.
I got the amazon one so I went cheap but hope it works well
It will NOT be warranted, as there are too many frauds in online sales WE at RGF do not warrantee any online purchases
@@geebo47 this is RIP OFF TO CUSTOMERS, so keep your product within yourself or come up with DIY solutions, these contractors are charging $2000 to install 1 units and if homeowners has 2 or 3 units then they will be spending 4k to 6k to just get that device installed. I would rather do it my self or look for other maintenance free product like i-wave R.
Is that the supply or return plenum
Supply
Ty sir
I noticed no insulation in that plenum
Mercury=On all the time ,LED = cycle got it.
Reads the manual at the end. 😂🤣😂
Nice job. Yeah, everyone make mistakes. A wise man who accepts them and makes better next time.
Thanks for sharing
This guy is in the Cadillac of basements and I’m in the dungeon with spiders and mutant cave crickets. 🤨
(Ps...stay off the EAC terminals. 🤷🏻♂️)
Well, aside from the abomination you cut in the duct and all the extra screw holes from not planning your install, you can't wire these to the EAC terminal or it voids the warranty. I rate it a 2 out of 10. You get one point for getting out of bed and one for the nice goatee.
So how are you supposed to wire in?
I have a variable speed heat pump with a TopTech TT-AK259 UV light installed. Will the REME Halo LED install be as easy as plug-and-play. Or do I need to rewire?
You need a relay or air sensing switch depending on the type of blower motor you have (regular: relay, variable speed: air sensing switch)
I have uninstalled 2 of those ,evidently if you have any kind of breathing issues they cause issues, I didn't notice much of a difference except a bit ozoney,but her husband said she couldn't stop coughing,alot of $$$ for a trial ! I would have tried 1 first.
This produces no ozone.
Never said it did,but whatever it does produce,bothered to separate people at two separate houses,one of them knew it had been installed, the other did not.But complained about it not even knowing it was in the ductwork,I did say ozony,but it had that effect as all!
@@petersmart1999 the reme h model puts out ozone and some people are sensitive to it. The led one shouldn't have any Ill effects..
Looks like my vehicle after it got hit by a RPG, LOL only kidding great job
I'm sorry I have claustrophobia and just watching you in crawl spaces gives me the EBG bees. Well I can't watch the video I'm still giving it a thumbs up.
what dose it do might i ask
I wanna know that too
@@orfeous
Kills Airbourne viruses. Hospitals use them to clean some of their ppe. Kill covid u ask? Nobody knows at this point
@@RockoRocko-rz7kx Trump said to put UV light inside you to kill the virus..... ROTFLMAO
@@halohms
He was just trying to weed the heard out. The stupids would try it. Survival of the fittest. Most DEMS WOULD TRY IT
@@RockoRocko-rz7kx The LED unit is in testing right now, the REME-H has passed to kill covid, see results on our website
Sorry for so many posts,but questions arise as I watch.The units I installed said they should run continually, that cycling the led would reduce the life of the unit. May be different for other styles, weired!
Thats what the instructions stated when I installed it,and back then I was questioning it made no mention of cycling with the fan...re read instructions twice cuz I thought I was missing this
The LED models can cycle,the mercury models just stay on
REME-H runs continuously, REME-LED must cycle on and off. If you run the led continuously it will significantly shorten the arrays lifespan, the opposite is true for the REME-H if you cycle it you will shorten the cell's lifespan
Your star is crooked, LMAO!!
Important to note that connecting it from the board will damage board per RGF. You do need the relay/air sensor on LEDs on variable speed blowers no shorcut around it...
The HALO-LED is powered using the supplied 40VA transformer. The
transformer is designed to be wired in 3 different ways depending on the
type of fan in the HVAC unit:
For single stage fans, the transformer may be connected in parallel to
the incoming power of the blower. See Figure 7.
For variable speed fans without communicang thermostats, the enclosed
relay may be used. For wiring instrucons visit:
www.rgf.com/relay-switch-instructions
For variable speed fans with communicang thermostats, the output of
transformer may be connected through the oponal air sensing switch in
the RGF Installaon Kit (HLED-AS). For wiring instrucons visit:
www.rgf.com/rgf-air-sensing-switch-kit
Love your sheet metal skills but your snips a little to be desired. But you are a technician not a sheet metal fabricator/installer. Just thought I would get my jab in. But as always love the content and keep them coming.
Do not follow these instructions! You will fry your Reme-Led unit, one of the main points in the instructions in to NOT use the EAC terminal for power. It will damage the unit over time. It must be also be cycled on/off with the blower to clean the ion brush tips. Bad install!!!
How would you install it could you give a few examples for the different types of furnaces.
@@anthonybernier9952 use the air switch. It goes in line with the 24V power to the unit. One hose to the negative pressure side (I go into the side of the blower cabinet), one hose to the positive pressure side (I go to the plenum). $40 and it guarantees the unit will only run when air is flowing, which is required with the LED unit.
@@adb99999999999 I wired it in with the fan wire.
The 24 volts Green wire from the green wire coming to the air handler.
Legit just watched a video of a guy installing it with a air switch and damn it makes sense. Yes agreed with original comment.
I would've done the same thing lol
u dont need 2 b perfick like chris and them other u tubs vp
had a local guy quote me $1544 for this job , , , (eyes couldn't roll hard enough )
Do NOT install as this video shows, Install as directions show, Do NOT wire directly to The EAC, Again follow the directions We give them for a reason
The transformer is to the EAC terminal not the air purifier
They bought a lot of these for the residential side and are giving them away for 350 installed now! Hahaha greedy shouldn't have bought 50 thinking they'd sell!!!
Do NOT buy on Amazon or any other online retailer, We will NOT warranty if for any issue as the seller is breaking their sales agreement with RGF
this is complete RIP OFF TO CUSTOMERS, so keep your product within yourself or come up with DIY solutions as world is moving towards online services and by passing greedy contractors/ middle man, these contractors are charging $2000 to install 1 units and if homeowners has 2 or 3 units then they will be spending 4k to 6k to just get that device installed. I would rather do it my self or look for other maintenance free product like i-wave R.
So @joejordan what if we did buy one online? We’re screwed? I bought on from Voomis who said they would honor the warranty if installed by a certified tech. How else are we supposed to get them installed? I’m not paying $2k for it.