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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2023
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Bushings are seriously the most overlooked thing. They effect almost everything and an internally cracked bushing can send you down a rabbit hole!
Bushings are lowkey one of the most important parts of a skateboard but they’re such an afterthought to so many people. I think it takes getting older and developing a healthy gear madness to really dial in what you want in bushings 😂
Thunder Trucks with Bones Medium bushings are the gold standard. Best combo ever. Love the videos.
I like Shorty's Doh Doh bushings. My favorites are the 95a red ones. They last a long time, at least for me. They might be more squaky than normal bushings, but it doesn't matter to me. The material is a bit different than normal bushings, more industrial. Try them out!
4:55 Your hardware will wear down if your trucks will shake like that. As a guy who fixes electric motors (mainly change bearings) for work, that play makes me anxious 😅You should always tighten stuff like you tighten car wheels.
hell yeah highly recommend doh dohs , I running the orange (med soft) with ventures and its perfect for me , the turning is way better then stock venture bushings
You're not a small guy. You should probably be using medium to harder bushings. Not saying super hard, but those stock bushings are too soft for you.
I am married with a 2 year old and I showed my girl the part where you talk about wanting more time to skate but just couldnt due to having a family. I told her thats how I feel at times. I feel you LocalJoe!
Yeah family is way more fulfilling than skating thankfully haha
Man, I put the white krux bushing on mine and it is game changing. Love them so much in my thunders.
Also have the same issues with Thunder bushings. I usually swop em out for Bones mediums. Thanks for the tip for breaking them in.
From my own experience riding thunders for almost 20 years the red bushings are soft the orange bushings are medium soft the blue, green and white bushings are usually a medium 94-96 duro i opt for either the medium bones bushings or i leave them stock with just the green or blue thunder bushings that come inside the trucks more often than not i change the stock bushings from ware and tear more than the medium bones bushings they dont freeze up and crack like thunder bushings do during the winter or going from skating indoors where its warm and go out skating in the cold is more than likely gonna ruin or break your bushings if i were you id probably ride hard bushings on the bottom and a medium on top will give you stability when you need it but the medium bushing will still allow some manueverability
Slappy Trucks FTW. People are sleeping on them. 💤💤💤
It’s the pivot cup, a bad or blown out pivot cup will blow out the bushings faster, also Thunder needs to make inverted kingpins
Went from Thunder to Ace. Never have a felt better on a skateboard
Joe your tre flips have gotten better. Keep up the good work!
I once had to use bushings out of a 1994 honda civic on my trucks. Thats when i finally got on the subway diet.
I put bones bushings in my thunders (hard bottom and med top) and they are perfect for me.
The audio IS good the sk8ting too
Ventures have a similar wheelbase offset to thunders, they also lock in well. I like them at least as much as Indy, probably more in some ways. In the ‘90s thunder lows and venture lows were very similar, I had two sets of thunders that the axles slipped and have/will never buy them again. You really ought to wax your trucks whenever you take them apart or change bushings. Regular old paraffin, gulf wax. Rub on all the contact points, bushings/washers, and shave some into the pivot cups. It keeps them from sticking or squeaking. And mini logo bushings are great aftermarket replacements
Sounds like you need to throw in some Indy bushings, the blues my work best for you. If you still got them old Indy’s laying around throws those on instead. I always hear about how bad thunder bushings are.
Bones bushings should do the trick, medium!
I’ve always wondered why you skate the 90a bushings? They’re meant for a 140-150lb person that’s why they break. Get yourself the thunder 94-96a bushings and it will be game changing.
Really do like this style
Get a pair of bones bushings or the Shorty, super dodos, and you’ll be all set my boy
The stock Thunder top washer rubs on the sides of the top bushing which destroys it. I fix it by replacing it with the top washer that comes in with Bones Bushings
The thunder trucks top washer digs in the hanger with loose trucks. Stripped kingpin or kingpin bolts sucks mayor. My solution is bones bushings medium duro with the small top washer. Works best for me.
I had to go with Ventures because I was aware of that problem Thunders' stock bushings and I'm not disappointed at all
They’re the same
For me Thunder trucks have the best stock bushings. My issue with Thunders are the wheels touching on nose and tail slides. I skate Indy now but i replace the bushings and pivot cup from the start with some premium bushings.
You like those high trucks ? Can you elaborate ? I am struggling to know which setup for my 11yr old new skater son. I got silver 11s 139 for a 8.0 quasi deck and spitfire 54mms f4s
@@ho2673 i skate the stage 11 titanium forged Indys. About the same height as the Thunders I was skating. They are meant for wheels 54 and under.
@@over40texasskater817 that is what I got my kid with a Quasi 8.0
That conversational part really seems to be a strong part of your content. It almost feels like you're alittle lonely. I dig how you explain your thoughts. As far as marketing your project it does have "Dad energy ".
I suggest using the camera audio while skating. I dont wanna hear you grunting everytime you do a trick dude lmao
Thunder bushings always have been bad about splitting and chipping atleast with stock 90 durometer. The old white ones they used way back were the worst but ive heard 94 duro is alot better against chips
What’s the Friday stickers all over?
Bones hard-core medium bushings are way better! You should try them
What ishod and doelling told me lol
Use Indy bushings in thunder trucks. Thank me later
So did you tighten your hardware off camera or leave it like that? That’s crazy, hardware isn’t really supposed to be or get loose. I swear by independent hardware as far as skate branded hardware, but I’d imagine decent nuts/bolts from the hardware store would be fine too. It’s the ones that are marketed as skate hardware but are shit quality that are the problem. Bolts strip and nuts come loose. It’s good to check over your board/hardware before you skate, but you really should almost never need to retighten. I often, but not always, use risers so idk if that helps keep hardware from vibrating loose or not. Even the boards without risers don’t get loose, just make sure to tighten them well the first time and use decent hardware
idk if it’s just me but ive had horrible experiences with red thunder bushings, skated the greens and blue just fine
Aren’t you in Utah? Tom asta lives in a cold environment and he said thunder stock bushings freeze up in cold weather so he uses bones medium. Try that my guy
Southern Utah. Not nearly as cold as pensilvania but yeah his bushings are too soft.
Hey man. Can you help me with my kid’s setup that I got him ?
Did I miss the really important part where you break them in the right way so you don’t screw them up.
I feel like that was foreshadowed and then didn’t happen.
As someone who has tried so many brands over the decades. Independent trucks reign supreme. Pop comes from strength, timing and confidence. Not trucks bro bro ❤️🛹🤙
Pop also comes from the geometry of your board and angle of your trucks in relation to the length of your tail and it has to work in conjunction with your body type. So if he feels that the thunders work best for his body type and WB length and kick length then that’s legit. It’s not just strength and timing.
Sure strength and timing can get you pop on any board, but to optimize and maximize your pop it is a little more in depth than that.
@@Not_Yuto_Horigomewhat you're saying is strength and timing is more important to get right than the trucks. Once you have the strength and timing then you can "optimize" you skating by playing different trucks but if you don't have the fitness part, then the other stuff like trucks or boards won't matter.
@@Not_Yuto_Horigome agree to disagree
@@DontbustthecrustYeah when I got the grasp of Ollie’s in the 80’s I rode bullet 66 and 1/2” risers on an Alva board with a 45 degree pitch. Also on top of that suicide bolts. (Upside down to catch the foot) can’t say that extra leverage helped but my Ollie’s did improve the stronger I got and the more reps I put in. Fast forward to the mid 90’s popsicle shapes and small wheels Ollied the highest during that era. So my experience is different I guess🤷🏽♂️
The issue is that they're Thunders
they have always been a very stable truck, but the turn radius is ass. even with hardcore bushings, turning always feels more stiff. That only comes down to the construction.
Indys just feel more responsive. They're hella loose when you first get them, but after you break those bushings in and tune em how you like. UNBEATABLE