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Anvil 094: 1903 Springfield Split Personality
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2021
- Two hosed up 03 stocks joined to make one, and refinishing techniques...
What we show here is what you need to go learn, not a tutorial. If you do not posses the skills to perform at this level, do NOT attempt. Support us: / anvil
“If I’m wearing gloves, this stuff is pretty nasty”
The last time I was in Vegas these exact words prevented me from finding true love.
Duuuuuuude...........................
Anyone who doesn't admire the knowledge, patience and craftsmanship is lacking something as a human being. And the commentary is top notch. One of a kind
Ive been watching this channel for years ...and I still find myself saying " I'm learning something today" ... LOL Mark you're a Legend
Thanks 👍
Poor day if u dont learn something
@@marknovak8255 I
"buy the bore, fix the rest" good advise!
And so many times buyers are fixated on the outward appearance but nice wood doesn't equal nice shooting.
I picked up a couple Lee Metfords that simply couldn’t shoot. The guy was shooting jacket ammo out of them and they patterned rather then grouped. I figured they were project guns but turns out lead ammo and one shoots 2.5” and the other shoots a decent 3.5-3.75” but is smoother and looks better.
@@john-paulsilke893 Minute of basketball....
@@marknovak8255 200yrds to hit an 8” gong most of the time is decent. Especially for WWI guns that have weird Glock rifling. 😁
2:30 - I see a third arm isn't only good for ski-boxing. This was interesting and informative, as ever. Thank you.
Thank goodness he didn't use his third leg
Hour long anvil! You made my day Mark and associates. Thank you!
I frickin' love it. "Cosmoline is a four-letter word." Thanks, Mark.
Cosmoline is *all* the four letter words.
Cosmoline is great stuff. Many a gun still exists today because cosmoline protected it long after governments stopped caring for them.
Sure it sucks dealing with it but it's still great stuff.
@@edwardscott3262 great stuff for long term preservation.
Terrible stuff to try to remove.
As I clean my rifles of that wonderfully gooey gak, I just continue to remember that cosmoline is the reason most of these gats are still alive and well today. As you rid your rifle of cosmoline, repeat this simple phrase "Cosmoline is our friend" and you will soon begin to quench your hatred for it as you clean it out of every microscopic nook, crevice, and cavity in the weapon
@@CaptainNonsense1 I know, but I can still hate it. ;)
Lots of inspiration, tips and tricks for general refurbishment of woodwork.
20 years ago I walked across the floor where this gun began it's life. In all likelihood it was a ghost by that point, but now I'm here seeing it regain it's life. Crazy times we live in.
Great Job Mark!
Not really about this 03 (although it is a great save), I'm talking about the great job you do to provide wisdom to the masses. There are a lot of enthusiasts out there that are going to work on old rifles. The supply of old surplus rifles is finite. You are giving the average enthusiast the tools they need, in their head, to work on them. You save a rifle and that is one. When you teach others not to 'Bubba', you save Thousands of rifles.
Take Care Buddy and Please keep up the great work, John
My exact intention. Do. The. Maintenance.
I remember doing this on a $60 Mosin Nagant i got that was encased in a hundred years of cosmoline. I ended up taking a torch to it and letting the oil run down. I remember scraping it just like you did. Brings back so many memories. 10/10 would do again.
Outstanding.....!
I saw a video on M-1 rebuilds in Italy. This was in preparation of sending arms to the Philippines for the planned invasion of Japan. Before being sealed in steel drums, the completed rifles were submerged in a vat of hot cosmoline. A word to all viewers look up U.S. H.B.127 submitted this past January and is now in the Judiciary Committee for review.
I would second for people to go read the text of HB 127.
Got a link to that video??
@@joey243win It has been a long time since I watched that video. I watch hundreds a week due to being retired. Here is a link to the National Archives Channel. The Salvage operation was in Italy near the end of the war in Europe. ua-cam.com/users/USNationalArchives
I'm glad you're willing to use even scraps of stocks to preserve the integrity of the rifle. Lots of people would have been thinking sporterize it with an after-market stock. I like original. You sir are a craftsman.
honestly it was one of the best and most relaxing hours I've spent all week
For you, yes. My experience was different!
@@marknovak8255 i can appreciate that but seeing a CRAFTSMAN working his craft with no computer crap is what i enjoy
I really enjoy the easy to understand and the well-done way you make these videos, as a layperson that knows a bit about guns but not gunsmithing, I really enjoy watching these videos.
That BB trick is genius.
Before he did it I was thinking a pointed steel pin. The BB is way easier. If putting pressure is too much for the structure a dab of sharpie will transfer from the metal to the wood.
Mark Novak is the best gunsmith I've ever seen in my life. He's taught me more about what to do with it. That's the problem everyone is scared. I know till I started watching his videos I was scared to try to do it on my own. He calmed me about it and I have fixed all my guns myself. Thank you Mark Novak!!!
My great uncle Joe was a gun smith and he finished all his stocks with a broken piece of glass. Smoothest finish I've ever seen
Best COVID blues therapy on the planet, what a craftsman 👍😁
The simplistic methods for the average day joe is so amazing! The amount of detail that you provide is always outstanding and so very much appreciated! To be able to see the history is great and to be able to bring it back into the world of today, a rare skill sir that you possess. Living in the area you do you are lucky to be able to see and work on this great stuff. Thank you for sharing to the masses!
My pleasure
That stop cut with the chisel on the wrasp joint was pure gold. Thanks. I will be using that one in the future.
I hope you post more vids. I really enjoy watching your work. You've introduced me to guns I've never seen or heard of! Always enjoy the history lesson. Good work sir.
Lots of videos left, if we don't get zucked
2:21 I knew it! Mark has 3 hands!
Exactly my thought lollllll
Touch the kitty the way the kitty likes it. That's a life lesson right there.
Our rowing club owns and restores antique boats. Our shop uses heat guns to remove old varnish -- the biggest challenge with new volunteers is not moving the heat gun enough to prevent burning. It's worth mentioning because it's so hard to fix a burn after it's happened.
that sounds like a great hobby
@@jobdylan5782 It's truly a pleasure both to row a wooden boat, and to maintain them. We have some wooden boats that are over 100 years old, and we also have modern composite racing shells. This is pretty unique in the rowing world.
I agree about moving the guh fast enough. Try removing the burn caused by a house fire...
@@marknovak8255 I'll leave that up to the pro. :)
@@Alanbataar I was wondering to myself recently if anyone actually did that, so there's my answer. Pretty awesome.
Gun smithing is fascinating. It’s metalwork, woodworking, engineering, art and history.
Wonderful job saving this piece of history. The "P" at the wrist is one of the Proof marks showing it has passed. In 1928 the Ordnance Depart. approved the change from the early straight grip "S" stocks to the pistol grip "C" shown, once all early stocks had been exhausted from inventory. This rifle would then be designated as Model 1903A1 for inventory purposes. The numbers across the stock near the butt are Rack numbers from a company/battalion armory.
I always learn new techniques and innovative fixes that work in the real world every time I watch your channel. Thank you for this... you’ve made me a much better craftsman/gunsmith/repairman than I was before and I hope to continue learning from your expertise. Ok that sounded a little stuffy... how about this. You Rock sir! Thanks for all the tips and tricks... keep ‘em coming!
You're very welcome.
In the few videos i have watched, you have taught me and informed me of soooo many things. I plan on watching everything you show
Man oh man I love the journey up and down these rabbit holes you take us on! Learn so much. Thanks for the journey Mark! Great job, even when you do the camera work too.
Mark watched your video got me charged up again I have a couple of old 03 s one with the Peterson slot cut I was going to restore them keep your videos comming you are a true craftsman
Watching a master craftsman at work. Gentlemen, have a cigar.
YES
“For all your days be prepared, and meet them ever alike. When you are the anvil, bear-when you are the hammer, strike.” (Edwin Markham)
"Now we can *really* see what we're doing" .. As he fogs up the camera lens with steam... 😁
What a true pleasure to watch a skilled artisan at work.
Mark, you are a Master in my book.
2:25. The minute a third hand pops into view makes you take a minute to think on that one haha.
Too many years on that nuke.
Yep. Sometimes I'd wished to have me one of those.
Lol, I never even noticed it.
Nice to see a “Old Girl” being put back into shape! Something about wood that’s alive!
I knew it! Mark has three arms and three hands. I KNEW it! He’s so good, he’s really an alien from the planet Anvil, in the Armorer system. 303rd planet from their sun. Another great video gents! Thanks!
Funny.
excellent watching you work Mark. working on a 1900ish American Gun Company Knickerbocker on my bench now. got my carding wheel and am very happy!!!
Omg 1 hour new vid, I'm making a coffee and chucking this on the TV. Excellent stuff Mark!
The best channel for the DIY firearm owner. Please keep it coming. Thank you.
Help spread the word please. Thanks for the sub
Mark, the more I watch your videos, the more tools I end up buying... I love every moment of everything I watch. Thank you!
Great video, Mark! I always love your videos and your teaching/narrating style. Keep up the good work, and I hope to keep seeing videos you put out!
That's not maintenance. That's art.
I learn something new every time I watch your videos and I use most of what I learn. Thank you.
It's not "refinishing" or "restoring", it's PRESERVATION !!! People in this country have lost the will and motivation to preserve any history !! GREAT JOB 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Well said
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to make the video and share your dedicated work. All the best to you!
you are a great youtuber too
the ball thing was a stroke of genius. I cant wait to tool up and start doing this work.
In the 70's i was a cadet in a military school in Camden sc. We had M14s that ended up going to some country for i think a lend lease deal. The were replaced with 1903A1's. I was on the armory staff for a while and i remember the stocks were not shiny or overly smooth. Some had what we called a straight stock and some had more of a pistol grip like a hunting rifle. For replacement stocks came in for repair or replacement the goverment sent both wood and what we called fiberglass stocks they were a brown in color i don't know ifthey were really made out of fiberglass but they were tough. The 03, had the single shot/bolt latch welded and thebarrels plugged whith what i was told salt and a steel rod to render the barrels demilled again i dont know if its true about the salt but some of they guys that carried the M14 appreciated not having to clean the barrel any more. I preferred the M14.
I remember those stocks. The ones my school got were plastic with a metal reinforcement in the wrist area.(We learned about the metal when a member of the drill team failed to catch a rifle during 'exchange arms'!)
I have often thought about the amount of NOS 03A3 buttplates, trigger guards, swivels and other parts that we pulled out of cosmoline to repair those drill rifles. Good Memories, John
Mark you are a national treasure of gun-smithing and conservation information!
Anytime you want to do conservation of a parkerized finish like you have done on bluing I could use that 411!
Thanks again!
Another wonderfully informational and entertaining video.
Thanks for the content!
I found myself watching your video, reflecting on my own restoration of a 1953 SKS, which had been packed in cosmoline for the better part of half a century when I bought it! I did pretty much the exact same things you did in this video, 30 years ago! I still have the rifle and still enjoy shooting it evey once in a while...thanks for the video!!!
Thanks Mark for your very good video, i e done a few rifles this way but a few 8 had to replace the whole stock with new wood, it makes my P-17 look brand new, not quite what i was looking for but managed to restore an old girl back to her glory. The metal finish was not touched because it retained the still beautiful finish. Your videos are by far the best I've seen for these old rifles and am ready to fix or at least give a try to fixing a duffle cut. Thanks again.
I'm doing a P-17 right now that was sporterized. The stock it's in now was cut straight in front of the barrel band but it appears to have been sanded and then slathered with polyurethane. I couldn't find an original stock that wasn't completely chewed up and cracked for sale online under $400, so I bought another walnut sporter stock that had been cut straight down in front of the barrel band just like the one I have now - only it has the original reddish-brown finish and all the markings like the eagle head stamps. Found it on eBay for $50. I found a front and rear handguard with matching color on eBay as well for another $50 for both pieces. For a repair piece to do the front of the stock I ended up ordering a complete British P-14 stock from APEX for $99. I am going to cut the nose off the P-14 stock and then try to mate it up with the surplus sporterized stock I got off eBay using the method Mark is using here. I ended up spending approximately $200 for all the wood stock pieces instead of $450 for an uncut stock and handguards or nearly as much for one of those Italian reproduction sets available on Numrich. I wanted to avoid the issue you are describing here where you end up with a 100+ year old rifle with corresponding metal finish sitting in a brand new stock. Even though rescuing an old military surplus rifle is quite satisfying, I still didn't want to end up dumping so much money into it that it exceeds the value of outright purchasing one in original condition. I enjoy rescuing these old sporterized military rifles when given the chance but I don't want to make them more expensive than just buying one unmolested. This P-17 will be the 4th military surplus rifle I have rescued from being sporterized and returned to their natural state. I have done a Lee-Enfield No.1 MK.III, a No.4 MK.1, a Gewehr 98 Mauser, and now this P-17.
Outstanding instruction video Mark. I have had a LE No4 Mk2 that needs a little bit of love for well over ten years. I'm not a gunsmith at all and for years have not done the required stock work due to the fear of making a bad job. Your vids are slowly building my confidence to do some basic stock maintenance and do it correctly. Thank you!
Hey, Mark has a new video out. Hit pause grab a cocktail pull up a chair enjoy Friday!! Gang at Anvil rocks. Thanks folks for all you do and share!
I didn’t care for your Enfield barrel chop... However, after watching the care and caution you used to repair and recondition this 03... AMAZING!!! Expert job VERY well done...
You know the truck gun was a museum grade example, right?
@@marknovak8255 yep
I think we carried the 1903 in navy boot camp in 1971. We stacked them at times and had a rack at night. Thanks for the show.
I bought an Enfield SMLE No. 1 years ago and came up with the bright idea, in an attempt to remove the Cosmoline from the interior of the magazine, to put it in the oven at around 200 degrees inverted on an aluminum foil-covered pizza pan, my wife was NOT happy, it stunk up the whole house for days.
Brings to mind HMS Zubian - a destroyer created by grafting the bow of HMS Zulu after it had been mined onto HMS Nubian, which had had its bow blown off by a torpedo.
Wish I'd known about using that simple scraper about 25 years ago. It would've made life a bunch easier and done nicer work in less time. I learned a lot about lots of stuff after 60-70 stocks mostly the hard way. Work smarter not harder is my motto.
AMEN
That damn stock looks like it was sitting in no mans land during the shelling of verdun
Perfect timing! I started watching your excellent videos a few days ago as I am just beginning to restore a sporterized 1903 back to some semblance of its former glory! This will be immeasurably helpful to me on top of what I have learned already. I have been extremely impressed with your skill and the quality of these videos, so thank you for the work you put into them! But don't worry, these aren't tutorials and anything I screw up is on me.
Good luck, it can be done.
you are an ARTIST!!!
Nice job knowing when to stop on the wood removal/resurfacing thing. The stock just looks like a better version of its former self with no serious dimensional changes or obvious repairs. The "duffle cut" repair was masterful. Well done. Incidentally, I've had excellent results with easy-off oven cleaner for getting grime or cosmoline out of heavily oil-soaked wood.
Leave your cut long. Like 3/4 “ >> Drill your rod hole >>Cut to final length.
Cut opposite side to length >>Use the 3/4” cutoff as a jig for the rod hole on the mating side.
No guessing at all.
As long as you drill straight!
My OCD kicked in while watching. the forward band and sling swivel is for the later 1903A3. the 1903 had milled bands and round steel swivels. Just FYI. Let the owner know if he cares.
This is why I read the comments.
This is the hardware it came with.
Was reading comments to see if anyone else noticed that.
Using a hacksaw similarly to a Japanese pull-saw. Interesting.
Again, I love it. The stop cut trick is something I learned years ago as a finish and restoration carpenter.
We really appreciate what you do for the relics! Thank you Mark!
Beautiful color on that old gun. Looks about the right color for an old Winchester.
Nice save.
I have a set of JBL speakers that are 50 years old and they have a walnut veneer. They also have 50 years of dings and scratches but nothing really severe. I will use a lot of the techniques you demonstrated in this video. I too want to repair the surface before I re-oil the wood but I want to try and preserve what I can of the vintage feel of the wood. I like the way you explained why you did what you did for each step. I will take my time since the restoration of the speakers is for my own personal use and not for a paying customer. I like the idea of raising small dents with steam. I also will experiment with making a scraper. I have done a lot of work with wood and seen many people make and use scrapers and I've always wanted to try to make one. I think I will use boiled linseed oil since that's what the finish was from the factory. And I was also thinking of a wax to finish the job since that will fill the pores and level the surface without using a chemical "finish" like a urethane or varnish. I really like a "natural" finish on real wood especially vintage wood. I'm Looking forward to trying out your ideas. I think they will work very well. Great video.
The sandpaper backed by the pad, or a straight piece of wood, is the best way to true a surface. Always sand against the whiskers, (as you did) otherwise you're just pushing them back down instead of removing them. You did a perfect job of matching the condition of the wood to the condition of the metal.
Amazing work, Mark!
I'm going through some of these issues on my Type 38 Arisaka. The K98 and this episode are a huge help. And the bonus was the bit about killing stock mold! HUGELY helpful, as there's....well, there's a lot of it. Thanks again Bruno and Mark!
my Fav , so calming to watch and listen, others seem to yell
Ah, a Shinto rasp. **nods approvingly**
Wondering what you called that rasp. I want one. Thanks.
"This stuff will make a third hoove grow outta yer forehead." Mr. Novak, in addition to performing excellent work and making therapeutic videos for aspiring gunsmiths, you have some hilarious expressions! As always thank you sir and God bless!
4:45 rasp envy! That's exactly what I've learned about old wood: take your time and sneak up on it.
My stepdad was a carpenter he’d say to me “take your time” because its wood and it takes a lot of water and a fuckin long time for it to grow back
Good tools make the job a lot easier!
@@BESHYSBEES The saw man on my first pro carpenter gig who'd been a carpenter since shortly after God invented wood told me, "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Get in a hurry and screw up in a hurry."
The rasp is a tool I don't use much in fine woodwork. But, when it does come out it helps to have the best....
I'm pretty sure it's a Shinto Saw Rasp (or the equivalent in a different brand), looks to be a medium/coarse but I have no idea on the length (they come in 200/250mm).
I can confirm that they're absolutely amazing until you run it across a finger... then you curse how well they cut.
My 26 pound cat enjoys being pet against the grain. She's a weird cat. She's actually a dog that just dislikes water. Cheers Mark.
This one made me giggle a bit too much..
Outstanding
Love that BB trick.
I miss the o3s when I was a boy here in Pennsylvania every old man and woman had like 10 now nobody has one
There was a time when people told stories about the Springfields blowing up, and not telling the truth about them, then buying up the rifles at low prices, and storing them away.
I was told the same story, but I had already heard about the problem being in the low serial numbers only. Unfortunately, I sold the rifle later, and when I went looking for a replacement, I ended up buying a low number rifle due to the lack of any others.
Sadly it was sporterized and has the NRA stamp on it, so I am restoring her back to original with spare parts I find, and it looks much better now!
Sir, it is a pleasure to watch you work. I am about 90% finished with one of these rifles and am inspired to spend a lot more time with the stock.
If you only have one to do, take the time necessary. Don't focus on just one area, do the "whole stock" and maintain the big picture
@@marknovak8255 Got it running right. Now it's aesthetics. The C stock appears to be old enough to have been dyed then hit with boiled linseed oil. The replacement hand guard is the later treatment. so they don't match. As you say it isn't Lawrence of Arabia's gun. I will either leave it or tackle the whole thing later.
You are and artist! You tought me a lot! I relish restoring old guns. Mostly hand guns. But have done some old shot guns,1871 Remington 10 gage, Remington Model 05 in 300 savage!
You're very talented Mr. Anvil. I really enjoy watching your craftsmanship.
Mark, really love your points at how to make sure that you don't have any problems.
It's official and seen here first Mark Novak has three hands!
Great Vid, next time I get home and have time for my Lee- Enfield project I'm going to refer back to this one , well-done .a very informative and unique channel.
This video makes me happy. My brother destroyed a 03 bring back from nam when he was tweaking. Painted the stock green, and used Walmart blueing on the barrel. Very sad results 😞
Thank you so much for showing me the wonders of scrapers. 🙏
GREAT TO WATCH... A MASTER GUNSMITH PLYING HIS TRADE IS A JOY TO WATCH WOULD GIVE MY FIRST BORN "IF I HAD ONE" TO LEARN UNDER HIM.....I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY NEW VIDEO... THANK YOU SIR FOR TAKING THE TIME TO SHOWCASE YOUR TRADE
Wow it started out looking like a wall hanger and ended up looking great.. fantastic job and we love your channel on the isle of Man
You do amazing work mark 👏
Holy crap, mark finally grew that third arm. 😂
I became a patreon because I started to feel guilty about all the great free info from a real smith.
MUCH appreciated
Mark, you are truly amazing.
You have taught me sooo much today. I really am anxious to try my next stock project using the scraper. Now I need to go practice making scrappers.
Ive watched all your videos and this one particularly was very satisfying thank you for your content, skill and craftsmanship.
Freaked me out a bit when you were making the duffle cut and your third hand appeared to catch the cutoff.
Some men are gifted that way…
I really like this channel!!! The wisdom is priceless. I always learn something. It’s always a pleasure. Best regards to you
Thank you for this video. I've done many rifle stock refinishing and stock preservations. This was very educational. And helpful for my next project. Thank you again.
Dave.
I learned a lot of tricks from this video. I'm steaming dents out of a Garand stock now. It's nice to be inspired by a Master.! Thank you Sir!
You can do it. Really
Dont know if you ever use regular low grade paint thinner or even kerosene when sanding, it keeps the paper from gumming up.
I use this method on fine finish furniture. I use a cork block to back up the paper for an exact flat finish, then just paper for dipped places... works for me...
cheers!