Yes he is Damn i can't listen to with when live performance & he literally ruined his own solo But when an album came up, he's lick are damn nasty & dirty bluesy
I’ve been listening to a lot of isolated guitar tracks lately. Listen, not everyone can be Eddie Van Halen or Nuno Bettencourt or Randy Rhoads etc. but in my much more mature view of music in my mid 50’s compared to when I was in my 20’s, it’s not a competition and at least CC was doing his thing. And he sure played in front of a LOT of people. That being said, I’m heading back over to some King Edward tracks.
Not really sure why people seem to think if a guitar riff isn't super technical it's not a good riff. Sometimes simplicity is what's called for. It's like people complaining about KISS. It's crotch rock. They never claimed to be writing symphonies. Just music to get you to move your feet and leave your seat. Poison was great at what they did, mostly party music with a good ballad thrown in here and there.
CC gets shit loads of bad press but in my opinion he's responsible for some tasty riffs and solos such as on this and nothin but a good time a hard to nail even for experienced guitar players
That may be true. The one time I saw them live was at an outdoor venue in Wisconsin and he really butchered his solo section. He started out just fine. But by the end of it, it was pretty bad. I think this was the first year he came back after cleaning up. We were on break while the main stage played, and I remember everyone in our band was cringing pretty hard.
@@icin4d if you watch the poison behind the music documentary on VH1, that was the house. I work for a cleaning company at the time and I saw his name on the work order and they gave me the job cuz I lived in Hollywood. He was the most depressed millionaire I've ever met in my life.
Poison was never a great band from a musicianship standpoint but they had catchy tunes and never gave up till they made it...Bobby Dall said this one time and to me nails the whole vibe with Poison: "I never wanted to be a musician. I wanted to be a rock star and I made it."
@CCW you probably don't play guitar or probably think you can to make that kind of comment about a bands musicianship with CC DeVille on guitar..... SMFH
Never personally cared for his tone or Joe satriani's but so what. Joe's still a great player and c.c. is certainly competent. Poison got kind of a raw deal... they were thought of as fluff but their songs have substance...
pfzt there were tensions between CC and Bret days before that infamous MTV performance...CC intentionally sabotaged it and that got him fired from Poison.
'Rikki Rocket: Either that guy Crash, or Bash. Whatever his name is, is the best guitar player in my opinion. Bobby: It's Stash. His name is Stash! Brett: I overrule you both. We're getting CC. Saying CC works better in a song.' And history was made....
It doesn’t sound great on its own haha. I bet they EQd it the way they did to make room for the rest of the instruments in the song so it probably sounds fine in that context
@@rodneylee4026 absolutely true!a lot of ppl have nothing even close to metronome beat, they think they "can" pick fast, but it often sounds absolutely disgusting
I constantly waffle on my thoughts towards CC. He definitely doesn't suck as a musician, or he wouldn't have had the success and staying power all these years. As a guitar player, the best way to describe him is that it's 'a walk down memory lane' for any decent or accomplished guitar player. CC sounds like every rock guitar player about 3-6 months into taking the guitar seriously. You know a couple of scales. You can't bend to an actual note to save your life. Your vibrato is on Bambi legs. You've just discovered harmonics. Your whammy bar is much more of an eject button than an intricate part of your style. You have learned a half dozen licks, and you play them on every solo a bit too fast, and they're still a tad over you head. You still haven't evolved enough to know how to dial in a decent tone.. What I find even more fascinating is that he's never evolved past this point. This in itself is a feat that I find to be his biggest strength. When I listen to a Poison song, I whistle along to the solo every time. He definitely knew how to be melodic, and his riffs were memorable. For fun, I sometimes will play one of his solos 'correctly' (bends in tune, with some decent Schon vibrato, minus the incorrect notes, with some proper transitions) and they sound just as good as most of the 80s guitar players we all love. Maybe he was just a genius and knew that the guitar God lane was clogged up, and said "I'll be this guy".. I can name a dozen bad ass guitar slingers that made it big in the 80s... I can't think of another one that made it big quite as untalented guitar wise as CC... So for that, he definitely does not suck and deserves all the success he has gotten through the years..
WTF? are you being serious? CC's recorded guitar tracks are proof you are completely wrong in your assessment of his techniques skills and qualifications as a guitar player
I don't question their musical ability(better than mine),but it's just their songs were so ordinary to become that big.However,rec execs wanted a certain this and a certain that at the time,so it was all really down to them ,not the bands.
The problem with so many of these comments is that CC actually CREATED SOMETHING. There are 1000 more talented guitarists on UA-cam who couldn't write a song if their families' lives depended on it. I don't care if you can play Eruption with your teeth, can you create something original that other people actually want to listen to? No? Then SHUT THE HELL UP!
For all you schmucks running your mouths... It doesn't matter, it's all in the mix. I'm no huge poison fan, but he made, and is still making, a shit ton of $$ from this track.
Poisons sound was about combining bobby dahls bass riffs with Rikki rockets drum grooves. Poision have a signature sound based on cc devilles lead guitar style. During the solo there is some tasty licks been played. CC Deville was also going through some personal challenges and maybe that shows up too often in this recording.
what are you talking about? Bobby is the worst bass player on his era. He plays one note and that's difficult for him. He plays even worse live. C.C. went through personal struggles after he was kicked out of Poison. During his tenure from 86-91, C.C. was a typical rock star who indulged in the drugs, the booze, the ladies and still showed up for the gigs. this track is a simple rock song that many of his peers were writing/recording during this era.
@@javtimestwo Hi Javy sounds like youve got your info dialled in tight. I was making a general comment. I was a big fan of the band growing up. People dont realise just how much CC contributed to the signature sound of the band. When CC was fiired and Ritchie Kotzen recorded the Native Tongue Album i was surprised by how the bands iconic sound had changed and didint really sound like poison anymore. Ritchie was and is ten times the technical player that cc is but CC's guitar sound is a big staple of the iconic posion sound.
Sounds like he was trying to do Eddie's thing where he bends and alternates two tapped harmonics with his right hand, like in: Good enough" from 5150. CC just missed them. To me that's no big deal, just try another take, but this band was dysfunction central around this time, if I remember correctly. So, maybe they said "F it:"
Lol yes, his vibrato was always shit but in spots, his playing worked. Def. Never been a clean player that's for sure. Also the tone ..I swear that's a tubescreamer into a clean channel for the rythm. Never noticed that until this iso track
Yes, I cant believe they final cut the song with such a lousy solo. I remember back in the 80s one of my friend telling me how picky the producers were they recorded a demo song, he played his solo 50 times for it to be spotless, I just don’t get it, we’re talking about a international hit here, lol.
I came here because of Dokken fanboys comparing George Lynch with CC Deville(stupid name btw.). All I have to say is Dokken could and should have used CC for some catchy and original riffs while Poison could have used someone like George for some soloing. But at the end of the day I'd take a good riffer over a shredder whose rhythm and riffplaying is ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-shred-shred-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-song-ends. George's riffing and rhythm playing sucked sweaty balls in Dokken, but with Lynch Mob's 'Wicked Sensation' that suddenly changed a 180 degrees. Even the truly great Jake E. Lee said he'd much rather be a technically limited but good riff/songwriter than a technically masterful guitarist. In his case he happens to be both, but you get the point. Both Dokken and Poison had in common their awful kitchy style and silly posery but I always did appreciate CC's abilities to craft good riffs!
Just because someone “makes it” doesn’t mean you have to respect their crappy playing or consider them some accomplished guitarist. That’s the stupidest go to response that everyone relies on. Nor does it have to dictate that everyone that rips on him is jealous in some way. Cmon already.
This is an isolated track from the mix. Anyone who has ever mixed anything knows that a guitar tone that sounds good on it's own is not necessarily what will sound best in the mix of the whole band. In fact if you make the guitar tone sound good and full on its own you are definitely taking up some of the space where the bass and kick should live etc...you want guitar to cut. If you want to dial in an awesome sounding tone on it's own then you better be playing by yourself. Some of the greatest guitar sounds in songs out there solo'ed out of the mix sound terrible on their own. Usually very mid rangey and grating to listen to by themselves.
Nothing sad about it at all. Legit band who played and wrote all their stuff and worked their asses off to get a record deal. Whether someone likes it or not is utterly subjective. I actually like them and Ratt. I honestly listen to Ratt more due to the musicianship upgrade and edgier songs but Poison is a great listen to just forgot all the crap and have some fun.
It's still badass, pretty sure it's not even tuned. He just showed up, probably high af and laid down the guitar track that helped sell millions of units. Badass.
It was because the big bands got to big and expensive for the record companies to keep around so they dumped the good bands for... ...grunge... which died after 5 years... ask kurt cocaine how he’s doing. 80’s hard rock is still alive it was never buried just abandoned by the corporations. Know your facts better if you want to be a hater
Only liked CC Deville in Poison! He could actually play some badass riffs just hated the lyrics. Was more into Van Halen(DLR), Crue, Billy Idol, ZZ Top, Def Leppard, & Ratt’s music at this time!#80’sRockRuled#MTV#C.C.Deville
This would be my last choice when I think about great guitar tone. A noise gate would have went a long way. Hard to believe the engineer didn’t insist.
@@fbcaware8805 I've been using my buttocks up to this point but if you think using my ears would help I can try that as well. At the same time........... ua-cam.com/video/hwKyCcIG8EU/v-deo.html
Listen to Ratts round and round isolated guitar from a song released 10 year earlier and then tell me it you think CC is still a great guitar player 🤣🤣🤣
Oh man, at 3:10 it just goes off the rails. Really, was that the "good" take? He actual tried his own solo project called the CC Deville Experience after being fired. Well, this was quite the experience I must say.
@@donhamel5274 he had a band after being kicked out of Poison that released one video, "hey good lookin". it was a fun rock n roll song for the time. then around 2001??? his band Samantha 7 released a record and C.C. went on a mini tour with that band after the annual Poison summer tour ended. that record is a lot of fun, power/pop rock with C.C. singing lead vocals since the record didn't sell C.C. and that band did not make a follow up record
I don’t think this is real. Isn’t the rhythm pattern in the ascending part at the beginning of the riff the same sixtuplet rhythm in the descending part? What is THIS fucked up thing? Sounds weird.
You are hearing just one isolated channel. There were many layers that are added to the mix that essentially when put all together is more gelled . ie : Def leppard - Hysteria had over 2000 separate guitar parts. If you listen to them separately you wouldn't know what song it is
@@WhyTheHorseface It is the basis of recording. You take a part,record it. Take another part,record it. Make multiple different parts and record it onto one track. Then take that and mix it with another track and record both of those ultimately putting it all onto one track. You can have thousands of sounds going off on just one track if that is ultimately what you want. Some parts may just be "Ching" or just line of 3 notes. Putting them in the right place is also an art.
Maybe but remember, it is about the songs and the vibe, not the skills. It's still a bitching riff and CC wrote a few of those in his time. Wish I had a few of those riffs in my name! Nothing but a good time is another beauty..loved that opening riff as a kid.
@@Polentaccio I was never a fan of Poison, but you made a great point here. A guitar solo is just a guitar solo. It's part of a SONG. A hit song has a great groove, and a hook, or memorable riff that it keeps going back to. This same idea goes for any song. The idea is to gain airplay, entertain existing listeners, and generate new ones.
Nickhead87 - With logic like what? He was making a point and you completely came up with an utterly ridiculous statement that has nothing to do with what he said. Talk about a logic fail on your part. Please.
CC is probably the best sloppiest guitarist from the hair band era. Always dug his sound.
Yes he is
Damn i can't listen to with when live performance & he literally ruined his own solo
But when an album came up, he's lick are damn nasty & dirty bluesy
He and Joe Walsh need to do a colab - see just how sloppy they can get.
Man, if we could have gotten isolated tracks back in the day!
I’ve been listening to a lot of isolated guitar tracks lately. Listen, not everyone can be Eddie Van Halen or Nuno Bettencourt or Randy Rhoads etc. but in my much more mature view of music in my mid 50’s compared to when I was in my 20’s, it’s not a competition and at least CC was doing his thing. And he sure played in front of a LOT of people. That being said, I’m heading back over to some King Edward tracks.
Gosh! I love that main riff. Ever since MTV played it over and over during the summer of 1990.
I loved it too when it was called I know a little by Lynyrd Skynyrd.
It really kills people to see CC living out their dream...
What, being on the surreal life?
@@cleftturnip7774 he got paid more money to be on surreal life than you'll make in 20 years
@@zachary_attackery People who think money is everything are kind of pathetic.
@@nckhed And people who work dead end 9-5's, while ripping on a person who's living out their dream, are even more pathetic.
@@armysniperman80 He literally got the boot from his dream 3 decades ago.
Pick on him all you want but 70 years from now CCs riff will still be out there and ours won't.
Not really sure why people seem to think if a guitar riff isn't super technical it's not a good riff. Sometimes simplicity is what's called for. It's like people complaining about KISS. It's crotch rock. They never claimed to be writing symphonies. Just music to get you to move your feet and leave your seat. Poison was great at what they did, mostly party music with a good ballad thrown in here and there.
At least he didn’t crank the distortion up too high. He dialed it in perfectly!
CC gets shit loads of bad press but in my opinion he's responsible for some tasty riffs and solos such as on this and nothin but a good time a hard to nail even for experienced guitar players
I was never into poison, but I’ve always liked his playing.
One of my favorite guitarist of all time!
I always wanted to hear the guitars isolated so I could hear those little nuances he does.
Exactly
this is my fav. Poison tune and Riff .
Sounds like he's lower on the neck bending like Slash.
I use to work for C.C. back in 1994. Super nice guy!
That may be true. The one time I saw them live was at an outdoor venue in Wisconsin and he really butchered his solo section. He started out just fine. But by the end of it, it was pretty bad. I think this was the first year he came back after cleaning up. We were on break while the main stage played, and I remember everyone in our band was cringing pretty hard.
@@icin4d if you watch the poison behind the music documentary on VH1, that was the house. I work for a cleaning company at the time and I saw his name on the work order and they gave me the job cuz I lived in Hollywood. He was the most depressed millionaire I've ever met in my life.
Awesome story! Not many can say they met a guitar monster like C.C.Deville!@@@mattmoss6121
Poison was never a great band from a musicianship standpoint but they had catchy tunes and never gave up till they made it...Bobby Dall said this one time and to me nails the whole vibe with Poison: "I never wanted to be a musician. I wanted to be a rock star and I made it."
Bobby Dall is just as much a "musician" as hundreds of other bass players in hundreds of other bands.
@CCW you probably don't play guitar or probably think you can to make that kind of comment about a bands musicianship with CC DeVille on guitar..... SMFH
Awesome, wish there were more of his iso tracks on UA-cam, such a fun player who doesn’t get enough credit for his playing C.C. Rocks!
I’m sure you’ve heard Cherry Pie by Warrant, that solo is C.C. DeVille. He did it as a favor.
@@michaelolin2219 ya I read that somewhere and gave it a listen again Thanks 👍
CC's got some great chops. Definitely, the most talented in that band.
Awesome. Lot of haters in the comments.... CC made it. And you didn’t.
Never personally cared for his tone or Joe satriani's but so what. Joe's still a great player and c.c. is certainly competent. Poison got kind of a raw deal... they were thought of as fluff but their songs have substance...
Cobain also “made it”. That logic is flawed.
Well, we all saw the infamous MTV Awards performance ;)
pfzt there were tensions between CC and Bret days before that infamous MTV performance...CC intentionally sabotaged it and that got him fired from Poison.
So did Boy George ; hated Poison but C.C. Deville could rip!#🎸🔥🤘🏻@@blcouch
C.C.'s guitar does sound wonderfully in tune,and I dig that.
🤣🤣
I like my rock raw, unpolished and honest.
EXACTLY!!😜🤟
That’s some bad ass blues. Never was a fan seen them one time in tupelo. Now one forever. Showing the love from Mississippi
I NEVER liked Poison, but i did like CC's solos. They were melodic and memorable. His solos were like a song within a song
he was bad ass man I loved all his riffs as a kid he blew my mind ❤❤ CC
Do some Vito Bratta.
I would love to hear that. And Jake E Lee
Bad or Good, love or hate him, people remember CC, a lot of guitarist just fade quickly and are forgotten
Rhythm guitar played in tune with good intonation! Probably EQ'd to stick out well in the mix. Nice job!
What do you know ? In tune ? Of course . Intonation ahhh yeah you have no clue about music or back then . On the sunset strip
CC has a distinctive sound. Not everyone can say that.
It's such a memorable riff. You know what it is five notes in.
Always liked CC, his massive ego matched his guitar style.
I like how its like listening to this through a shitty old radio. makes it feel like im in the times
Killer tone.
I cant believe I just listened to the WHOLE THING. TWICE. This is the musical equivalent of replaying a NASCAR crash over and over.
@@osldriver3561 Oh Ive always liked the SONG. But, man, if there was ever a musical depiction of drug addiction, THIS would be it.
AHAHAHAHAHA.. there is nothing funnier than the truth 🤣
I think he can't even remember what the hell he played on that solo but sounds great
Like CC. Great playing.
Feels like its missing 2 notes and its driving me crazy!
'Rikki Rocket: Either that guy Crash, or Bash. Whatever his name is, is the best guitar player in my opinion.
Bobby: It's Stash. His name is Stash!
Brett: I overrule you both. We're getting CC. Saying CC works better in a song.'
And history was made....
Awesome track
Whomever mixed/EQd this owes my ears an apology.
It doesn’t sound great on its own haha. I bet they EQd it the way they did to make room for the rest of the instruments in the song so it probably sounds fine in that context
It’s very treble
The Mystic Ruler I wasn’t saying “terrible”... I was saying “treble “ as in high EQ
The Mystic Ruler Heck yeah..lol👍
Marc Harbison You did great 👍...would you consider doing a Pantera song?
To all the "Shredders", I've heard of C.C., but I've never heard of YOU!
Most people who call themselves 'shredders' have zero rhythm playing ability.
@@rodneylee4026 absolutely true!a lot of ppl have nothing even close to metronome beat, they think they "can" pick fast, but it often sounds absolutely disgusting
@@Bashed44 They're clueless
@Tim Dempster and who are you again??? 😂
@Ryan Lockett born mad 😂😂😂
CC is a great player underrated is he Steve vai no. But he’s a great little player.
I constantly waffle on my thoughts towards CC. He definitely doesn't suck as a musician, or he wouldn't have had the success and staying power all these years. As a guitar player, the best way to describe him is that it's 'a walk down memory lane' for any decent or accomplished guitar player.
CC sounds like every rock guitar player about 3-6 months into taking the guitar seriously. You know a couple of scales. You can't bend to an actual note to save your life. Your vibrato is on Bambi legs. You've just discovered harmonics. Your whammy bar is much more of an eject button than an intricate part of your style. You have learned a half dozen licks, and you play them on every solo a bit too fast, and they're still a tad over you head. You still haven't evolved enough to know how to dial in a decent tone..
What I find even more fascinating is that he's never evolved past this point. This in itself is a feat that I find to be his biggest strength.
When I listen to a Poison song, I whistle along to the solo every time. He definitely knew how to be melodic, and his riffs were memorable. For fun, I sometimes will play one of his solos 'correctly' (bends in tune, with some decent Schon vibrato, minus the incorrect notes, with some proper transitions) and they sound just as good as most of the 80s guitar players we all love. Maybe he was just a genius and knew that the guitar God lane was clogged up, and said "I'll be this guy".. I can name a dozen bad ass guitar slingers that made it big in the 80s... I can't think of another one that made it big quite as untalented guitar wise as CC... So for that, he definitely does not suck and deserves all the success he has gotten through the years..
WTF? are you being serious? CC's recorded guitar tracks are proof you are completely wrong in your assessment of his techniques skills and qualifications as a guitar player
I wish I could play this sloppy technique they speak of and I would be quit happy with that!
CC was and still is one of the best guitarists in RnR 🤘
Good stuff
I don't question their musical ability(better than mine),but it's just their songs were so ordinary to become that big.However,rec execs wanted a certain this and a certain that at the time,so it was all really down to them ,not the bands.
remember seeing this on mtv when it came out, terrible lightweight track.
The problem with so many of these comments is that CC actually CREATED SOMETHING. There are 1000 more talented guitarists on UA-cam who couldn't write a song if their families' lives depended on it. I don't care if you can play Eruption with your teeth, can you create something original that other people actually want to listen to? No? Then SHUT THE HELL UP!
For all you schmucks running your mouths... It doesn't matter, it's all in the mix. I'm no huge poison fan, but he made, and is still making, a shit ton of $$ from this track.
@Eric Tasaico My bad, no harm meant or intended. I'll do better in the future... L'Chaim 😁🤘
And just think. These are the takes they kept. Ya C. C. We're good here...
Considering where they were at that juncture, this might have been the ONLY take.
The tones are all over the map... I guess it worked for what they wanted.
They punch in effects
Great tone.
Great channel!
Kinda Pagey to me but ive always dug it! Sounds great isolated
Poisons sound was about combining bobby dahls bass riffs with Rikki rockets drum grooves. Poision have a signature sound based on cc devilles lead guitar style. During the solo there is some tasty licks been played. CC Deville was also going through some personal challenges and maybe that shows up too often in this recording.
what are you talking about? Bobby is the worst bass player on his era. He plays one note and that's difficult for him. He plays even worse live.
C.C. went through personal struggles after he was kicked out of Poison. During his tenure from 86-91, C.C. was a typical rock star who indulged in the drugs, the booze, the ladies and still showed up for the gigs.
this track is a simple rock song that many of his peers were writing/recording during this era.
@@javtimestwo Hi Javy sounds like youve got your info dialled in tight. I was making a general comment. I was a big fan of the band growing up. People dont realise just how much CC contributed to the signature sound of the band. When CC was fiired and Ritchie Kotzen recorded the Native Tongue Album i was surprised by how the bands iconic sound had changed and didint really sound like poison anymore. Ritchie was and is ten times the technical player that cc is but CC's guitar sound is a big staple of the iconic posion sound.
Go back to your room!
Huh? Poisons signature sound was CC's hard n heavy in your face guitar !!!
WTH are you listening to?
So is this actually the original solo track? Or is a cover by someone?
cool!
Wow. Just...wow.
what the hell was that at 3:10
CC broke the laws of physics with his playing... lol!
Proof the studio can make ANYONE sound good ..
he dropped his crack pipe
Sounds like he was trying to do Eddie's thing where he bends and alternates two tapped harmonics with his right hand, like in: Good enough" from 5150. CC just missed them. To me that's no big deal, just try another take, but this band was dysfunction central around this time, if I remember correctly. So, maybe they said "F it:"
Listen to that part in context of the full song and it works perfectly.
Hearing that solo isolated makes you realize just how terrible it is.
Lol yes, his vibrato was always shit but in spots, his playing worked. Def. Never been a clean player that's for sure. Also the tone ..I swear that's a tubescreamer into a clean channel for the rythm. Never noticed that until this iso track
Yes, I cant believe they final cut the song with such a lousy solo. I remember back in the 80s one of my friend telling me how picky the producers were they recorded a demo song, he played his solo 50 times for it to be spotless, I just don’t get it, we’re talking about a international hit here, lol.
Always liked this solo. Dude plays like he’s holding on for dear life. It’s not “good” but it gets your attention.
I came here because of Dokken fanboys comparing George Lynch with CC Deville(stupid name btw.).
All I have to say is Dokken could and should have used CC for some catchy and original riffs
while Poison could have used someone like George for some soloing.
But at the end of the day I'd take a good riffer over a shredder whose rhythm and riffplaying is ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-shred-shred-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-song-ends.
George's riffing and rhythm playing sucked sweaty balls in Dokken, but with Lynch Mob's 'Wicked Sensation' that suddenly changed a 180 degrees.
Even the truly great Jake E. Lee said he'd much rather be a technically limited but good riff/songwriter than a technically masterful guitarist. In his case he happens to be both, but you get the point.
Both Dokken and Poison had in common their awful kitchy style and silly posery but I always did appreciate CC's abilities to craft good riffs!
@@haliaeetus8221 Good comment. Any particular tracks by Jake you'd recommend I listen to?
Probably im technical better than he has ever been so what? He was a top 10 rockstar and im a bedroom player
He is a great guitar player, CC rules!!
Breezecam whoosh! the OPs comment went straight over your head 🤦🏻♂️
You don't hear the technicality in his rhythms?
What in the hell was that at 3:10
I always thought Poison were utter garbage but after listening back to this I realise I was being too kind to them.
I think PLX is goofing on Mr CC lol That said, everyone can't be EVH and he DID "make it". Good for him.
Marshall Plexi with a over drive ?
Why do all these isolated tracks sound like they are using about 25% of the gain that you hear on the final cut?
i know right.
In my knowledge and experience studio tone typically dials the gain back to help the overall mix sound better, cleaner or more defined.
There's probably more tracks doubled together in the mix, and you're only hearing one of them.
All depends on compression and eq
You don’t need a lot of distortion
Less distortion is actually key to a good rock sound
Epic guitarshreds but the mixer or producer might been the highest anybody ever been in a studio. 😄😄😄 Awesome!
CC IS THE MAAAANNNN!!
Just because someone “makes it” doesn’t mean you have to respect their crappy playing or consider them some accomplished guitarist. That’s the stupidest go to response that everyone relies on. Nor does it have to dictate that everyone that rips on him is jealous in some way. Cmon already.
The sleazy/sloppy playing works with poison’s generally sleazy sound
@@sirquacksalot6463
That’s for sure!
Poisons?? Definitely is to any musicians, any person in the world who is in the know
i'd like to hear the isolated hi hat track to this song. Was there tamborine in this song? I'd like to hear that
isolated too.
Sounds like a Hondo strat played through a Rockman.
Not a good sound.
Lol!
Very 80s tho
If I ever have to play this, or Hard to Handle, ever again, Ill hang myself with my A string.
This is an isolated track from the mix. Anyone who has ever mixed anything knows that a guitar tone that sounds good on it's own is not necessarily what will sound best in the mix of the whole band. In fact if you make the guitar tone sound good and full on its own you are definitely taking up some of the space where the bass and kick should live etc...you want guitar to cut. If you want to dial in an awesome sounding tone on it's own then you better be playing by yourself. Some of the greatest guitar sounds in songs out there solo'ed out of the mix sound terrible on their own. Usually very mid rangey and grating to listen to by themselves.
@Old Jim
Hell, why not? Go in style.
so sloppy, so bad, yet its awesome.
They were also more successful than the majority of the 80's bands. Sad, but true.
Guitar Guru for all their flaws, Poison wrote catchier tunes than Ratt...
Nothing sad about it at all. Legit band who played and wrote all their stuff and worked their asses off to get a record deal. Whether someone likes it or not is utterly subjective. I actually like them and Ratt. I honestly listen to Ratt more due to the musicianship upgrade and edgier songs but Poison is a great listen to just forgot all the crap and have some fun.
CC 🤘🏻
CC FTW!
Just remember, out of all the takes this one made the cut.
Yikes!! And totally not surprised. Still got him laid though... and my money for the CD back in the day.
@@echo3898 He won't suck you off, stop trying.
It's still badass, pretty sure it's not even tuned. He just showed up, probably high af and laid down the guitar track that helped sell millions of units. Badass.
And people wonder why that shit was buried by the early 90s.
they were already cooked by the time it came out
It was because the big bands got to big and expensive for the record companies to keep around so they dumped the good bands for... ...grunge... which died after 5 years... ask kurt cocaine how he’s doing. 80’s hard rock is still alive it was never buried just abandoned by the corporations. Know your facts better if you want to be a hater
The Audience Is Listening please
not bad at all
Next time you cats in tupelo hanging with Jeff we can go on a bike ride
Only liked CC Deville in Poison! He could actually play some badass riffs just hated the lyrics. Was more into Van Halen(DLR), Crue, Billy Idol, ZZ Top, Def Leppard, & Ratt’s music at this time!#80’sRockRuled#MTV#C.C.Deville
It's a good thing I can barely hear the guitar in the final mix. I'll just keep listening to the bassline..
Probably doesn't help that he was coked out of his mind.
Very underrated guitarist but come on he plays in Poisen
The guitar playing is ok. It does not have to be perfect.
This would be my last choice when I think about great guitar tone. A noise gate would have went a long way. Hard to believe the engineer didn’t insist.
I love CC and play guitar because of him, but I knew for years that song was played terribly. I just had no idea how terribly until now.
I can hear a click track in the background
I can see the RR's influence here, less polished but... so what?
I hear acdc and Van Halen
@@timbuk1126 me to, right in the morning
Listening to this after Robin Crosby, Nuno and EVH kinda makes this anticlimactic...
OMG his an awe full guitar player but I still kind of like him 🤗🤗
His solos would disagree with you. Maybe you have to look deeper than the songs produced for the radio before commenting on his actual skills. Maybe.
@@noahtall1580 Have you tried using your ears?
@@fbcaware8805 I've been using my buttocks up to this point but if you think using my ears would help I can try that as well. At the same time...........
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This is a track with an overdub.
Listen to Ratts round and round isolated guitar from a song released 10 year earlier and then tell me it you think CC is still a great guitar player 🤣🤣🤣
Robbin Crosby’s isolated track was my favorite! “King” and Demartini was a powerful duo!#Legends#RATT&ROLL#🐀🎸🔥🤘🏻
CC one of the best along with Warren Demartini
1-10, 10 being GREAT, CC was and is a minus 174! Pure LA shit.
So what would that make you - 174000000000000000?
Worst time I've ever heard from a so-called professional guitar.
I am not trashing the guy here but if I heard my neighbor playing that on his guitar I would not think he had a chance at making it big.
Oh man, at 3:10 it just goes off the rails. Really, was that the "good" take? He actual tried his own solo project called the CC Deville Experience after being fired. Well, this was quite the experience I must say.
Didn't he do something called Samantha seven too?
@@donhamel5274 he had a band after being kicked out of Poison that released one video, "hey good lookin". it was a fun rock n roll song for the time.
then around 2001??? his band Samantha 7 released a record and C.C. went on a mini tour with that band after the annual Poison summer tour ended. that record is a lot of fun, power/pop rock with C.C. singing lead vocals
since the record didn't sell C.C. and that band did not make a follow up record
@@javtimestwo Samantha seven .awful.. actually laughable...look them up
@@donhamel5274 i know. i have the cd. saw a s7 concert all those years ago. i enjoy the songs for what they are. a departure from the Poison sound
bayrojotube In isolation I get what you’re saying. In the full mix though those failed tap harmonics actually sound pretty good:
I don’t think this is real. Isn’t the rhythm pattern in the ascending part at the beginning of the riff the same sixtuplet rhythm in the descending part? What is THIS fucked up thing? Sounds weird.
You are hearing just one isolated channel. There were many layers that are added to the mix that essentially when put all together is more gelled . ie : Def leppard - Hysteria had over 2000 separate guitar parts. If you listen to them separately you wouldn't know what song it is
Rush x1 please tell me how they had 2000 guitar parts on a 48 track machine.
@@WhyTheHorseface Overdubs
@@WhyTheHorseface It is the basis of recording. You take a part,record it. Take another part,record it. Make multiple different parts and record it onto one track. Then take that and mix it with another track and record both of those ultimately putting it all onto one track. You can have thousands of sounds going off on just one track if that is ultimately what you want. Some parts may just be "Ching" or just line of 3 notes. Putting them in the right place is also an art.
Pretty sure it’s real. You can just hear how sloppy it really is when there aren’t other instruments to mask it.
This is probably my most hated song of all time. Unskinny bop bop bop
I just came here for a laugh...CC Deville lol Seriously!
Maybe but remember, it is about the songs and the vibe, not the skills. It's still a bitching riff and CC wrote a few of those in his time. Wish I had a few of those riffs in my name! Nothing but a good time is another beauty..loved that opening riff as a kid.
@@Polentaccio I was never a fan of Poison, but you made a great point here.
A guitar solo is just a guitar solo. It's part of a SONG. A hit song has a great groove, and a hook, or memorable riff that it keeps going back to.
This same idea goes for any song. The idea is to gain airplay, entertain existing listeners, and generate new ones.
Thomas Raines never herd of you.
Nickhead87 - With logic like what? He was making a point and you completely came up with an utterly ridiculous statement that has nothing to do with what he said. Talk about a logic fail on your part. Please.
I've always hated his tone. Yeah, 3:10 is a shit show.
What’s he doing tap harmonic?