Wanted to clarify two things: 1) NiceTwice is legit. This video is about "DREM". Not NiceTwice. NOT DREAM (though this video is mostly about Dream's comment) 2) Apparently, now everyone thinks loading screens always begin in the bottom left. That is false The loading screen is on a seed-by-seed basis. Different seeds have different loading screens. Each seed itself will always have the same loading screen. It's seed dependent. The issue I pointed out was how Drem’s “run” had a different loading screen from what his seed is supposed to have. 3) For more, check out this video from one of the Minecraft speedrun mods - ua-cam.com/video/OoPjklMPB8Y/v-deo.html
lol theres like 50 people sending hate against zyphon for calling out dream.. He isn’t exposing dream, he’s exposing Drem, in the chat you can see DremGuy as his IGN, not Dream
@@redotix9952 bruhh the cheater is the left one, a true Dream fans would have been updated to the lord daily shit. We true Dream fans had already know who the cheater is
Dream's reputation went down the gutter ever since he vehemently tried to defend himself only to later go "hahah whoops I DID have mods on, my bad :3", now he seems to just make bizzare posts on social media
-Can't craft correctly -Bumps onto every blocks -Takes AGES to choose a tool to use/blocks to place Dude can't even do simple things, this is just insulting. Remember: this is not a normal record, this is supposed to be "the best" run in the world.
Ikr. Some kids in Minecraft will do anything for attention. I saw this one kid on tik tok pretending he builds profile pictures when in reality he just downloads them
Notice how the guy doesn’t explore or mine at all. He just goes to structures and the village. He obviously knows where everything is. Edit: bruh I didn’t know y’all was gonna argue so much
First Drem was exposed in 2020, the guy who exposed him and started the investigation being Dream. Then, in 2021 Dream was exposed by MincrAvenger who investigated his drop rates. And now in 2022 MinecrAvenger has been exposed for cheating. I guess we can only assume that whoever got MincrAvenger caught will be faking speedruns in 2023
Literally more than half of these comments are just people complaining why this guy is hating on Dream and liking comments saying, “phew, it’s drem, not Dream. Also, THERE IS A FRICKING ARROW POINTING AT DREM, NOT DREAM SAYING IT’S A FAKE SPEEDRUN!
@@ibraahimdureng7482 He never bothered to check his mods folder before hiring an "astrophysicist" to dispute the exact scenario he knowingly had a mod for?
@@98ore Not really I just watch his manhunts cause they’re very entertaining, also the fact people were spreading false claim’s saying his a predator and swatting his house just made me feel bad for the guy. Also yeah he didn’t do it on purpose someone confirmed it
Sky Gaming debatable drem seemed to have no clue how to speedrun the game and he only got an ok time because it was set seed, but the set seed wr is nearly twice as fast
That kind of advice is futile. If Zyphon doesn’t want people to harass the guy, he wouldn’t have made the video in the first place. A video with controversy and the perpetrator’s name is bound to draw negative attention to that person.
@@Despacitoian No, that's not what I mean at all. If Zyphon wishes to call out Drem, by all means, he should go ahead and do it. In fact, I encourage it cause Dream really is an idiot. What I am pointing out is the futile advice Zyphon gives in saying that people should not harass Drem. Saying something like that at the beginning of an exposed video is like telling people not to look at a bright neon side in a dark alley. It only achieves the opposite effect which is what happened in real time because Drem's video now has half a million views. Zyphon probably made that statement just out of kindness and just in case he receives backlash. But, as I said, other than those reasons, there is no point in giving that advice. It would be better to just be transparent about it and call it out for what it is without giving the disclaimer.
this video is literally the reason i started watching dreams manhunts, then started watching wilbur soot, then started watching the dream smp, and then lost a sleep schedule. edit: oh yeah i also got addicted to tiktok, found out i was pansexual and genderfluid, and got depression edit 2: not as depressed, I'm now agender and unlabeled and probably autistic (trying to get a diagnosis)
Tbh it took me a second to figure it out cause I was reading comments before I got to the part he said the cheaters name and I thought someone just misspelled dream and I got a little worried
I know dream didn’t fake it but just to let you know you can do pre recorded live streams which means it’s live but it’s a already record and edited video which is what drem is probably going to do
@@subcribeandyournotgaysuban8416 Probably going to do? Unless your faking your speedruns he doesn't exactly need to do that so he probably won't, it could hurt his credibility, I don't think he would really pre-record his live streams it doesn't make much sense at least to me.
Ok Im not trying to defend Drem's actions here but Lee TG streamed his Yoshi's Island runs and it turned out they were tool assiated pre recordings. Streaming is not enough verification for a run to be proven legitimate.
I'd say that phrase "Dream's speedrun is also sketchy" already is huge hint that this guy's speedrun was fake. It's very common behaviour of a liar - to attack other person instead of proving themselves right. (because latter is obviously impossible)
When he gets the lava bucket achievement while his making the nether portal he enters his inventory and there’s a cut, you can tell because his flint and steel teleported location without him moving his mouse and the text goes from fading to instantly gone.
Dude half of the chat is going, "Omg, I can't believe DREAM did this, I'm un subbing right now". Most are probably trollling because the other half of the chat is spamming, "DREM NOT DREAM".
tylerbrown plays Billy Michell was a huge donkey Kong speed runner a while back, who got called out for cheating and had obvious issues with his runs. It’s a lot deeper than that, so if you really care, look it up.
Drem, who was clearly a fan of Dream by his name, and Dream exposed him, it could’ve been triggering for him seeing a fake one when his was real, but Dream literally admitted to cheating.
Isnt the computer also lagging then? Because I know what you said is correct cause it was a mistake from making the run unlegit, but I think that it can happend legit
@@svp5thechad408 dont quote me on this however i believe there are 2 timers, an ingame one and then another to be tracked outside of game, also shown in the mc speedrun lists. The timer that showed on the kids screen was edited there for video purpose like what most speed runners do so even if mc lagged that one should still keep going. also its not like ur game completly stops when u lag, half the time you go forward by quite a few blocks and the screen just doesnt keep up.
@@levcool8986 Nobody was talking to him and he just randomly replied to @a lemon. And I don't know about the dumped because of height thing but it wasn't relevant at all.
Here's the squad guys *DREM* *JORJ* *SNAPNAP* *GOODBOIHAYLO* Also featuring *Wah wah boi* *Government fundyd* In an alternate universe: Dreams: crushed Gorge on snacks Slap crap Halo 5 Edit: what’s ur favorite and thanks for the likes
To me what makes it even more suspicious is the fact that he is really slow and bad at inventory and crafting, he is sooooo slow in comparison of other speedrunners, he loots slow, crafts slow, changes his hotbar soooo slow, to me it's so clear he just learned the seed after so many tries, but he is clearly bad at the game.
Or haters, but mostly what you said it's just dumb little kids can't tell the difference. Edit: For those saying its stolen, *I was the one who said it originally* I don't care if he did copy my comment, he probably just thought the same thing and posted it. I support this comment because I 100% agree with it.
but he doesnt cheat thats why. who said he cheats. theres no proof of him cheating. I hate people like this that accuse people of cheating without proof
@Realize no. ppl disliked because the youtuber used Dream's face to get click bait (Which is normally fine) but because of the title of the video, it implied that the creater was referring to dream when he is saying that someone faked their run. Ppl do not always want to give the man views for stating something that is clearly not true, so they dislike the vid before they even watch it. And most of the time they wont watch a vid that they unliked because they dont want to give the person money for such blasphemy.
@@clarycekoonce586 dream was mentioned in the video so he can be in the thumbnail and you can clearly see a huge red arrow in the thumbnail that is pointing to drem not dream
i heard about it in 2011 when someone talked about it in kindergarten, and then i started playing in 2012 back when you couldn’t explode tnt in creative in pocket edition, before cows and baby mobs and back when zombies dropped feathers. man has minecraft changed. there were also only iron tools in creative. Edit: you also couldn’t open chests in creative either or open crafting tables. this applied in the pocket edition. i think i got it for pc in 2012-2014, but i can’t remember, as my account was deleted.
In all honesty I would've doubted it the moment he messed up making a stone sword for these reasons: In a random seed speedrun (glitchless ofc) You'd have to do hundreds of speedruns before you got as good technique as speedrunners like Dream and Illumina. So why did he 1. Get nervous 2. Mess up the movement to get a stone sword Getting nervous would've obviously been because he was cheating, and either thought this could be a "World record" or was worried he would've gotten caught. And the movement messing up a stone sword shows that he hadn't practised minecraft enough, not even speedrunning.
Toasted Wheat yeah, cos most speedrunners just go all out and 99% of the time meet with failure so they dont care enough unless they meet some milestones. The fact that he’s nervous is just funny
Drem: *cheats in his speedrun* Dream Stans: you deserve all the hate you get! Dream: *cheats in his speedrun* Dream Stans: it's ok guyz.. It's just a game! 1! 1! 1
@@GasterScientist Stan isn't what people make out to be. Being a "Stan" is fucking creepy and not okay. Those stans *are* children, no one that is 18 or older would "stan" for someone.
It's more like, It's hard to argue with a genius, but impossible to argue with a dishonest person who thinks he is sleek and fooling everyone while in reality is digging a grave for himself."
I didn't have to look at loading screens or digging straight to the portals to know this was fake. The dude can't make a sword on his first attempt, and my 5-year-old nephew can.
Something that nobody has pointed out is that he mined down at the perfect values 1850 and 650 (numbers that are easy to remember). Somebody who was actually triangulating wouldn't have cared about whether they were mining down at a perfect coordinate location or not. It could just be me but the fact that he mined down at such an easy to memorize location (coordinate wise) offers more proof that this was faked. Just my 2cents.
totally agree that his run is fake but all these tiny arguments are so silly like u could say this about any legit speed runner who happened to dig down in a certain spot and while sure, maybe in this case it holds a little meaning it proves absolutely nothing and could easily be a coincidence
@@ikeasucculent4734 yeah i agree, people are on nicetwiceyt's record literally saying ANYTHING to try and say his run is faked. "font is not legal he used client" when it's unicode font, "his movements don't line up with his keyboard" like what? i swear some people will say ANYTHING, it's so dumb
He answered a similar question on stream and he said that he was first to come up with this Dream like name. On his old Fortnite videos he was named Drem and that was before Dream was popular. Dream only had about 100-1000 subscribers at the time.
Hallo. Thanks to God's help, I want to let Him use me as His messenger, so would you mind telling me whether or not you choose to believe in Him? Also, I know that this wasn't asked for. I copy and paste things to efficiently communicate with and help people, so please don't report me for this.
dead magma cube, I know! Hallo! I don’t inhabit Germany, but I like things about it! Also, you aren’t obligated to answer, but would you mind telling me whether or not you willingly believe in God?
All of hit movement seemed shaky, like they were fumbling A LOT, and doing small things that would decrease your time GREATLY, like the portal scene for the end, he places each eye so carefully and slowly
This Drem-guy didn't even strike me as a particularly good player. Yeah yeah, he was nervous, but how do you almost mess up crafting a stone sword? Or how do you take the time to casually throw things you don't need into the water. The water. He literally went to the ocean just to throw things out of his inventory. He could have done that anywhere. Also notice how he waited above the portal room in a weird way as if he was like "Okay, how do I get down there without taking any damage?" while like every other speedrunner would be like "Yeetus my waterbuckeetus" or they would at least jump down. Fuck damage. They have a speedrun to do. And his jumps hurt my brain. Almost at the beginning, when he was in sight of the village, he did not stop jumping and thus took fall damage. It wasn't much and didn't matter, of course not. But speedrunners take every possible advantage and do not want to be slowed down in any way. Especially not by completely unneccessary damage on an open field, which slows you down momentarily. And one more point out of a more psychological point of view: There is nothing more boring to speedrunners than just running and jumping to their destination. They need to keep themselves occupied. With ANYTHING really. Be it randomly swinging your sword, switching items you hold in your hand, placing blocks under yourself while you run or the occasional mlg-waterbucket. Or you just don't because you literally studied the seed and have to remember everything. So you don't need extra distractions.
These are legit' points. He doesn't get distracted, even though he is "Nervous", if you're nervous, you always check your surroundings just to see if you can do something faster, he even said he was nervous though-
yeetus my buckeetus damn you got me XD anyways, yes all what you said and all people opposing "Drem" are mostly correct. fucking bad name to be honest, Dream wold be better...
Drem cheating Everyone: Imagine faking a speedrun Dream cheating Everyone: Imagine getting mad about a block game Dear Dream stans, please be consistent, thank you.
they go out of their way to acuse and harass people for 'cheating', one example is mcc where they send death threats to others just because their favorite content creator didn't win
Wanted to clarify two things:
1) NiceTwice is legit. This video is about "DREM". Not NiceTwice. NOT DREAM (though this video is mostly about Dream's comment)
2) Apparently, now everyone thinks loading screens always begin in the bottom left. That is false
The loading screen is on a seed-by-seed basis. Different seeds have different loading screens. Each seed itself will always have the same loading screen. It's seed dependent.
The issue I pointed out was how Drem’s “run” had a different loading screen from what his seed is supposed to have.
3) For more, check out this video from one of the Minecraft speedrun mods - ua-cam.com/video/OoPjklMPB8Y/v-deo.html
Thanks penguin waifu
Zyphon ok
@oCloudys i did
@oCloudys ya know Rarme?
Zyphon you are a hero to the speed run community
Please note: It wasn’t Dream. It was another guy named “Drem”.
DREAM NEEDS TO STOP CHEATING
@@d8w69 drem not dream
WIDGET WS
YOU NEED TO STOP SPAMMING
@@silliestemy its a troll
Anybody with a brain knows that.
*Names himself "Drem"*
*Gets called out by Dream*
Clearly the "A" missing in Drem's name to be as good as Dream was "Awareness".
Ok
Edit : wat is going on
Stefan Andrejevic you act like no one else does that
Stefan Andrejevic yes a long time ago makes him crap now
Stefan Andrejevic You sond like the Karen in the super market that’s one hour late to a limited product and demands to buy it
I see you every where dude hooow
lol theres like 50 people sending hate against zyphon for calling out dream..
He isn’t exposing dream, he’s exposing Drem, in the chat you can see DremGuy as his IGN, not Dream
His community is full of stans
I am giving him shit because hes a click baiter. He made the thumbnail intentionally look like hes calling out Dream.
@@redotix9952 how
@@kingcs12 Cause he put Dream in the thumbnail and he's known to be a speedrunner, so people are likely to assume that the title is also about him
@@redotix9952 bruhh the cheater is the left one, a true Dream fans would have been updated to the lord daily shit. We true Dream fans had already know who the cheater is
"Dream has a good reputation in the speedrun community" Wow, that didn't age well...
Facts
not at all
bruh it's drem not dream
@@BOY-gr6dr nah he means dream
Dream's reputation went down the gutter ever since he vehemently tried to defend himself only to later go "hahah whoops I DID have mods on, my bad :3", now he seems to just make bizzare posts on social media
Plot twist he faked the speedrun on purpose and meant to get caught so he could make dream look bad
Acctually makes a lot of sense
It felt like he was trolling the whole time tbh
How does that make dream look bad lol?
@@sinception5034 Everyone thinks Dream is cheating but it is actually Drem
@@sinception5034 drem is such a similar name and if people dont pay attention they think its dream
"I'm about to speedrun this mans funeral"- Technoblade
im about to speedrun everyones funeral in a second
“You can’t run away from your problems, not when they have ender pearls.” -The Blood God Himself
@@memelgaming bruh that's one of my favorite quotes from techno-sama
Maybe the blood god see a dream future that one day there's a cheater
I laughed so hard when he said that
So you’re telling me that this isn’t satire? That a guy named Drem, a name so close to Dream, is actually trying to pass off this run as real?
and he says he learned the triangulation method from dream, knowing who he is
He’s just a kid
His name was drem before dream started uploading again
@@DanielCastilloOfZeUSA so?
drem made a 53 minute long video defending himself and is still trying to argue his run was legit
Bruh fake speedruns are more investigated then most murder cases
Ik lol
Yeah lol
Lmao
lol
fr
The fact that this was his first official recorded speed run and broke the record should tell you that’s bs
Total bs!
He might have practiced for alot of time tho
Loads of people do that. It’s pretty common especially with other games
Okay drem ischeating and dream not right?
@@theplaymasteryt1156 2 different people
-Can't craft correctly
-Bumps onto every blocks
-Takes AGES to choose a tool to use/blocks to place
Dude can't even do simple things, this is just insulting.
Remember: this is not a normal record, this is supposed to be "the best" run in the world.
Ikr. Some kids in Minecraft will do anything for attention. I saw this one kid on tik tok pretending he builds profile pictures when in reality he just downloads them
I have completely no idea why that guy would cheat and be the best at minecraft speedrunning, even though it's so obvious it's fake.
harld kardika I agree this fake speed runner is brain dead
@@cchayas first mistake: being on tiktok
I play Minecraft on the Nintendo Switch and sometimes pc and I can craft better
Cheater: does something clearly wrong
Zyphon: I diagnose you with “Benefit of the doubt”
True
Xdd
lol
Zyphon: Take it or leave it
I made a number in k increase first time in my entire life i made it from 1499 to 1500
Fun Fact: Don’t go to newest first if you don’t wanna see angry Dream stans thinking Zyphon is talking about Dream cheating.
yes
They seem like younger children
But it is kinda ironic how dream dissed him for this
Yes
I'm gonna go grab my popcorn
Sad thing is, Drem could’ve just sped run on the topic “Set Seeds” instead of a random seed
That's would be a lot less impressive, as his time is only at 46th place.
Trashbox Bobylev still top 100 but yeah isn’t really impressive
Dream not drem
@@KENIMATIONS It's drem bro 🤦
@@KENIMATIONS r u blind af or you just trolling
Its talking about DREM THE CHEATER
not
DREAM THE GOD
Notice how the guy doesn’t explore or mine at all. He just goes to structures and the village. He obviously knows where everything is. Edit: bruh I didn’t know y’all was gonna argue so much
Theres a thing called choosing a seed
Microsynical that’s what he’s getting at....
Microsynical when doing a speed run you don’t pick the seed you make it random so it’s fair
agreed
@@ciarahadaway683 There is a category for specific seed speedruns tho
Drem: But dream's run is way more sketchier...
Everyone: Wha? How? any evidence?
Drem: He's....Green.... Which makes it hard for mob to see becau-
Bruh
And Lol
LMFAO
Danendra Javier r/woosh
LEGENDSLAYER 148 to what?
My favorite UA-camrs: Drem, Jorgenotseen, slapfap, goodboyfallout, and antiheat
What about WaspHot?
"CyberSword always falls!"
Technosword
@@rafisani I think you mean technoshield
Ya mean goodmansatan?
Imagine how funny it would be in if drem was dreams little brother
XD big oof
You are right big oooof
it was a secondary account
I'd laugh
Child-“Mom can I get Dream” Mother-“No, we have Dream at home” Dream at home- Drem
“Mom can we get a Dream?”
“No. We have a Dream at home. “
Dream at home: Drem
K
I was looking for this
@Read my Profile pic Spam
@Sans The Skeleton Cause it would'nt get top comment ._.
@@pennortley1486 Rather not
Drem teem: Gerge, GoodGirlCallOfDuty, Sepnep, And Drem
Edit: refer to Sepnep as HoneySleep
HoneySleep, not sepnep
GOOD GIRL CALL OF DUTY I CANNTTTTT 💀💀💀💀💀
Lel
@@Frastic Geed ene!
its drem tem
First Drem was exposed in 2020, the guy who exposed him and started the investigation being Dream.
Then, in 2021 Dream was exposed by MincrAvenger who investigated his drop rates.
And now in 2022 MinecrAvenger has been exposed for cheating.
I guess we can only assume that whoever got MincrAvenger caught will be faking speedruns in 2023
oh shit
The main question is: Was he drinking coke or eating pizza while doing this?
Both
Yess the faked super Mario run!
👏 XD
my favorite all-time speedrun 😍😍😍😍😍😍 we stan
God i hate him he didint even clean his hands
The Drem Tem includes: Drem, Gorge and Snap
wait why is the like button blue
Snapap
Pig,diamond,bald,tap water,Beaver,French,mute,African wild dog etc
Don’t forget about Good boy devil
@@cchayas GoodBoyHorns, just a suggestion (sounds dumb, welp drem also sounds dumb xD)
The reason this has dislikes: *kids confusing Drem for Dream and disliking*
And thinking if dream is in the thumbnail its clickbait even though dream has a purpose in the story that isnt for clout
ProDoge .-.
Yep, they clearly don’t see the arrow pointing at Drem
Literally more than half of these comments are just people complaining why this guy is hating on Dream and liking comments saying, “phew, it’s drem, not Dream. Also, THERE IS A FRICKING ARROW POINTING AT DREM, NOT DREAM SAYING IT’S A FAKE SPEEDRUN!
@RedActivates MC What dose not knowing English have to do with looking at the Thumbnail?
@@Disheartthorn read it with a pause after "English".
Just to clarify
This video is about Drem, not Dream.
Drem: cheated
Dream: also cheated
Not on purpose but yeah Dream did technically cheat
@@ibraahimdureng7482 He never bothered to check his mods folder before hiring an "astrophysicist" to dispute the exact scenario he knowingly had a mod for?
@@danem2215 Eh, might of overlooked it I always do that when I install mods on Minecraft, plus who even cares about that now it’s old news.
@@ibraahimdureng7482 lol, you a fan ?
@@98ore Not really I just watch his manhunts cause they’re very entertaining, also the fact people were spreading false claim’s saying his a predator and swatting his house just made me feel bad for the guy. Also yeah he didn’t do it on purpose someone confirmed it
Food from the oven: Dream
Food from the microwave: Drem
Lmao
What food? Turkey? Hahahahahaha
I laughed at this for too long lol
I dunno man, microwaved hot pockets kinda slap B)
Lol
"we have dream at home"
dream at home: drem.
"Mom, can we have dream?"
Dream at home :
“Drem.”
mom why cant we get real dream
TARUN SURESH but moooooom
I have no experience in the speed run community but at the end I was like "He couldn't even do the triangulation method"
me sitting here not even knowing triangulation method was a thing
But he's better than you?
Sky Gaming debatable drem seemed to have no clue how to speedrun the game and he only got an ok time because it was set seed, but the set seed wr is nearly twice as fast
LostRock the number one set seed speed run is like 3 minutes
@riley I think the triangulation method is where you use three ender eyes and go in the middle of the three to find the portal
Dream commenting on a fake run is the most ironic thing I've ever seen
Why is that ironic?
@@kaiserreichmapping805 cuz dream cheated on his speedrun aswell
@@lumajj9689 this video is about drem not dream
@@justlikee9431 yeah i know but dream commented on drems fake run while dream cheated on his runs as well
@@lumajj9689 ok
Minecraft speedrunner vs 3 hunters
"Drem"
"Gorge"
"NapSap"
"GoodGirlHalo"
"HotSpider"
The real Drem Tem
You mean, the fake Drem Tem
Lol
Ya mean goodgirldemon
@@ethany5236 GoodGirlHorns, because Angels have Halo's and Demon's have horns.
*Jorge
the fact that his name is drem already makes me not like him.
M0NKEY N00BZ poop
dream did nothing wrong bro
Ar Wi drem not dream
Like imagine trying to be like Dream by doing something that Dream doesn’t condone
Kid I can tell u are that one kid that's hates on every on in that on fanclub that u are dreaming to be in
Plot Twist: Drem is actually George just trying to beat Dream at speedrunning.
So that is a diference of 10 minutes
Lol
PumpkinTheCat_YT 11 second squad
??
@@just_ise4418 if you don't watch Dream or Georgenotfound you wouldn't understand
If im ever going to court, im gonna hire you as my laywer.
Good idea you’ll have an ace attorney
Yes
But he’s not a lawyer
Ps nobody get triggered at this it’s a joke
@@real-p4injr217 he’s not a lawyer, he’s the best lawyer.
What if he does not believe you
What it looks like in the pics: *Dream*
What the product actually looks like: _Drem_
Fudgecake wish dot come dream
"Mom can we get a dream!?"
mom- "no hun we have a dream at home"
*the dream at home*
Ha🤣
Fudgecake lol
Finally an original comment
Zyphon: "don't harass this guy"
The Internet: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that"
That kind of advice is futile. If Zyphon doesn’t want people to harass the guy, he wouldn’t have made the video in the first place. A video with controversy and the perpetrator’s name is bound to draw negative attention to that person.
SteveGamesFTW So he shouldn’t point out that the man faked the worlds best speed run?
@@SteveGamesFTW So. He's just trying to point out he FAKED the world's best speeds in record that is serious I guess
@@Despacitoian
No, that's not what I mean at all. If Zyphon wishes to call out Drem, by all means, he should go ahead and do it. In fact, I encourage it cause Dream really is an idiot.
What I am pointing out is the futile advice Zyphon gives in saying that people should not harass Drem. Saying something like that at the beginning of an exposed video is like telling people not to look at a bright neon side in a dark alley. It only achieves the opposite effect which is what happened in real time because Drem's video now has half a million views. Zyphon probably made that statement just out of kindness and just in case he receives backlash. But, as I said, other than those reasons, there is no point in giving that advice. It would be better to just be transparent about it and call it out for what it is without giving the disclaimer.
@Rafał Myma meme reference
Me: Mum can we have Dream?
Mum: No, we have Dream at home.
Dream at home:
Lol
👌
I get it haha funni
Le_ frogey
lol, ye it was a nice joke. A bit overused tho
@@Guineapig-yo6fi
It is a little overused, I can't lie. I still thought it would be somewhat funny given the situation though.
“If you can’t defeat them, join them” -dream 2021
WHY I Feel I Heard This Before In Russia
@@bgodgamer553 Hope it's true and Russia surrenders its territory to Ukraine then.
- minecravenger 2022
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Manga: Dream
Netflix adaptation: d r e m
Hey Netflix adaptation is not that bad >:(
Tenebris r/woooosh
@@burritoman6064 what i get the joke
Tenebris nvm
Vedio game:dream
Film:drem
"Drem" is basically a Walmart version of dream
nah it's family dollar
@@scooter7910 nah when u buy dream of some stranger on Ebay
@Linus0923 nah Ebay m8
ll-Xx_kill_xx-ll craigslist
@@scooter7910 maybe
this video is literally the reason i started watching dreams manhunts, then started watching wilbur soot, then started watching the dream smp, and then lost a sleep schedule.
edit: oh yeah i also got addicted to tiktok, found out i was pansexual and genderfluid, and got depression
edit 2: not as depressed, I'm now agender and unlabeled and probably autistic (trying to get a diagnosis)
Then I set out to finally use my art skills to make an animatic and proceed to give up because it already looks sh*t
you had a sleep schedule?
yeah this video didnt age very well
@@person_lk5738 indeed i did, it didn't last long though
@@nikinihachu5531 same, if I recall
For some reason, you saying “If you hated it, don’t forget to leave a dislike” was just so funny, thank you
Everyone remember this isn’t “DREAM” it’s Drem
Jacob Rearick dude I was just saying to people who didn’t realise
Jacob Rearick some people somehow didn’t know
@Bowie Snell agree.
Tbh it took me a second to figure it out cause I was reading comments before I got to the part he said the cheaters name and I thought someone just misspelled dream and I got a little worried
Jacob Rearick didn’t have to care mate
I laughed my ass off at Drem calling Dream fake, didn't he literally livestream his runs?
lol same it's a bit like a first time amateur runner winning against an olympian
daredeviler lol same
I know dream didn’t fake it but just to let you know you can do pre recorded live streams which means it’s live but it’s a already record and edited video which is what drem is probably going to do
@@subcribeandyournotgaysuban8416 Probably going to do? Unless your faking your speedruns he doesn't exactly need to do that so he probably won't, it could hurt his credibility, I don't think he would really pre-record his live streams it doesn't make much sense at least to me.
Ok Im not trying to defend Drem's actions here but Lee TG streamed his Yoshi's Island runs and it turned out they were tool assiated pre recordings. Streaming is not enough verification for a run to be proven legitimate.
14:56 “dream has a good reputation within the speed running community” well that aged poorly
It sure did lmao
His name is Drem not dream
@@MrRaysjunk I feel pitty for you
@@SpilledShelf5 lol🤣
@@MrRaysjunk Dream got exposed for cheating. Not Drem. Dream.
I'd say that phrase "Dream's speedrun is also sketchy" already is huge hint that this guy's speedrun was fake.
It's very common behaviour of a liar - to attack other person instead of proving themselves right. (because latter is obviously impossible)
Yeah
They pin the blame to get eyes off themselves and try to drag innocents under
I want to like your comment, but it is on 69....
You know what? Screw it! I will like!
Dream or drem?
he made an almost hour long video that had like 5 to 10 minutes of *"attacking"* dream
L0 seR drem
When he gets the lava bucket achievement while his making the nether portal he enters his inventory and there’s a cut, you can tell because his flint and steel teleported location without him moving his mouse and the text goes from fading to instantly gone.
Your eyes are sharp
Time stamp?
Friedpineapplez756 Smith There is no time stamp where that occurs on this video, go to Drem’s speedrun at the timestamp 5:53
@@yenbenone what to you mean? hes just running at 5:53
@@laugelaursen8530 "Go to Drem's speedrun at the timestamp 5:53" also good eye luos I found it
Dude half of the chat is going, "Omg, I can't believe DREAM did this, I'm un subbing right now". Most are probably trollling because the other half of the chat is spamming, "DREM NOT DREAM".
yeah
Lol so true mate
But statistics show 56% of people who watch his videos arent subscribed.
Omg you have no brain
@@despawn7793 True, but why?
Dream Stans say it’s just a game dream shouldn’t be canceled but when drem did it everyone dislikes him
I know fucking hypocrats.
@@thebluegamer_3667 *hypocrites
@@thebluegamer_3667 lmao "hypocrats"
@@hjoshk these damn hypocrats ruining the roblox fastrun gathering
@@bobfishtheblobfish3619 grrrrr I hate it when people are hypocratikal 😠😠😠😠😠
What's next, Gorge?
"Oh Dreeeeeeem"
"OH GORRRRRRGEE"
#Badlion
Edit: then it'll be wapchap and goodhalo in videos like minceraft huntman
U sir Deserve a round of applause
Well played
Lmfao
i mean snapmap exists LOL
HOW TF DID I NOT GET THAT AT FIRST, you sir are either a genius or i'm just a fucktard
Drem Dream
(Red) (Green)
Georgenotfound: they’re the same picture
OMG yes he have green and red colour blind
Nice
They’re*
Except the designs would possibly be different
Lmao
I sent this to a friend of mine, and he said ‘didn’t know Billy Mitchell played Minecraft’ and I lost my crap.
tylerbrown plays Billy Michell was a huge donkey Kong speed runner a while back, who got called out for cheating and had obvious issues with his runs. It’s a lot deeper than that, so if you really care, look it up.
Hope you found your crap and got it all together in one place. Get your crap together!
@@JohnSmith-zs1bf yes
@@gabemonty664 I've heard about that but didnt understand at first so thank you for making the joke so much better
Lol Todd Rodgers about to beat this record by popping the clutch
Drem, who was clearly a fan of Dream by his name, and Dream exposed him, it could’ve been triggering for him seeing a fake one when his was real, but Dream literally admitted to cheating.
Drem had the name for 10 years, predating dream
You could also see when he “lags” his timer also stops, and I think that the timer and game are in two different tabs.
Wait where? Do you have a time stamp?
@@dog596 watch it.
Isnt the computer also lagging then? Because I know what you said is correct cause it was a mistake from making the run unlegit, but I think that it can happend legit
Definitely not a Lemon
I was asking if there was a certain time..
@@svp5thechad408 dont quote me on this however i believe there are 2 timers, an ingame one and then another to be tracked outside of game, also shown in the mc speedrun lists. The timer that showed on the kids screen was edited there for video purpose like what most speed runners do so even if mc lagged that one should still keep going. also its not like ur game completly stops when u lag, half the time you go forward by quite a few blocks and the screen just doesnt keep up.
I hear that Ace Attorney music 👀
Oh cool it’s you
lmao same-
Ever since gravity falls ended, your channel really has died
Ace Attorny now that's a game I haven't heard/played for a while
Hey vail
Drem: denies everything about "exposing" his video
Drem in his chess vid: YES I CHEATED
I can tell you actually used to watch this guy but I can’t judge cus i used to watch Brent rivera
Thomas Murat learn english
CloudGamer36 no u didn’t ur just a toxic 8 year old who edited footage and pretended that someone better than you is bad
Grain if you’re talking about being toxic its you you’re literally being toxic hes happy your like a guy who got dumped cuz he was short
@@levcool8986 Nobody was talking to him and he just randomly replied to @a lemon. And I don't know about the dumped because of height thing but it wasn't relevant at all.
The amount of dream stans who thought he was talking about dream is insane
I can confirm this when I put it to newest a while back
Something about your profile picture just makes me mad I just don't know why
@@RRaaattT the t is bent and now I hate it ÆÆĀÄ
@@GasterScientist YES BRO
E
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Jk lol
What
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Ea
Plot twist : Drem speedrun was real and he just got lucky
I bet Drem purposely named himself "Drem" so he can cause mass confusion for when he uploaded that video.
did you not watch the video drem posted or are you this arrogant
@@cheesiesticks lol wdym
Or to possibly get more traction from a typo of “Dream”..
yeah totally
@@Ignore__Me oh that would make more sense lol
I clicked this thinking this was going to call out dream for faking a speedrun I'm happy it's not
Thank god im still watching it and Literally Took a sigh of relief when he mention dreams comment
Its Drem not dream people.
Me too
It had dream in the thumbnail so it’s very confusing
SimplyKay ?
"Speed run"
"Cheating"
"Minecraft"
Words I'd never thought I'd have to see strung together.
The first 2 would be alright together but mix it with minecraft. Kinda suprising
Have you seen Badabuns Mario speed run
@@tutanicknight1811 I think so
with speedrunning comes cheating. don't know why it's surprising that would also apply to minecraft
@@felix56p Because cheating in Minecraft is such a laughably pathetic concept and someone out there is pathetic enough to employ it.
Zyphon: "The cape makes you 100% more penguin."
Me, who's favorite animal is a penguin: "I'lL tAkE yOuR eNtIrE sToCk!!"
Lmao
Here's the squad guys
*DREM*
*JORJ*
*SNAPNAP*
*GOODBOIHAYLO*
Also featuring
*Wah wah boi*
*Government fundyd*
In an alternate universe:
Dreams: crushed
Gorge on snacks
Slap crap
Halo 5
Edit: what’s ur favorite and thanks for the likes
Ha funeh
This comment is UNDERRATED
JORJNATFOUNDH*
Napsap
Mwhahahahah🤦♂️😈😂😂
To me what makes it even more suspicious is the fact that he is really slow and bad at inventory and crafting, he is sooooo slow in comparison of other speedrunners, he loots slow, crafts slow, changes his hotbar soooo slow, to me it's so clear he just learned the seed after so many tries, but he is clearly bad at the game.
Yeaa agree with that
nah dream is one of the fastest and progression.
@@kiampa hes talking about drem not dream
The dislikes are just people who thinks drem is dream
Mother i am famous, i will get the camera right now.
Or haters, but mostly what you said it's just dumb little kids can't tell the difference.
Edit: For those saying its stolen, *I was the one who said it originally* I don't care if he did copy my comment, he probably just thought the same thing and posted it. I support this comment because I 100% agree with it.
Phoenix Torres stolen comment
And they didnt watched the full vid
the Cockroach under your pillow...i will check now if ur there
Phoenix Torres he totally did not faked it
“Dream has a good reputation in the speed running community” oops, didn’t age well :\
he is talking about drem not dream
@@hao-gm8gd He knows, he was quoting the guy and saying that it's noe rendered obsolete due to recent events
@@hao-gm8gd nope in that quote he was talking about dream
@@GoatRider166 Nice vocab.
@@lk2704 bro, it's literally 1 typo.
Imagine faking a Minecraft speedrun
Sad life
Depression is real.
I
Imagine to fake a speedrun that bad...
He didn’t
Mom can we get dream
No, we have dream at home
Dream at home: drem
That's was funny
Mom can we get George
We have George at home
George at home: grog
Mom: you are a broken kid
Me: then why you accept father's sex?
Mom: nevermind you are fine kid
lol
lmao
Drem? Even his name is a rip off lmao..
Uhh, Dream was way after Drem was made soo.
¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
@@vinzceazar how do you type that emoji?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@lorie.osk905 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@wolowolowolowolowolowolowo2417 eh ok
It's funny how Dream pointed out Drem is cheating when he's literally a cheater too
That was months ago
Ikr
but he doesnt cheat thats why. who said he cheats. theres no proof of him cheating. I hate people like this that accuse people of cheating without proof
@@CrystalBase 😐
@@CrystalBase when ur school doesn't bully you enough
I like how Drem's speed run video is now private.
Lol, it wasn't not too long ago I don't think.
It's wasn't
I was able to get the link to the video, so if anyone wants it, here
ua-cam.com/video/HzgXYfxA9As/v-deo.html
@@RoseGirl3 omg thank you, i wanted to read the comments lol
@The Duo’s O,Brien what
The ironic thing is everyone dissliked because they thought you were exposing dream
@Realize no. ppl disliked because the youtuber used Dream's face to get click bait (Which is normally fine) but because of the title of the video, it implied that the creater was referring to dream when he is saying that someone faked their run. Ppl do not always want to give the man views for stating something that is clearly not true, so they dislike the vid before they even watch it. And most of the time they wont watch a vid that they unliked because they dont want to give the person money for such blasphemy.
@@clarycekoonce586 dream was mentioned in the video so he can be in the thumbnail and you can clearly see a huge red arrow in the thumbnail that is pointing to drem not dream
@@clarycekoonce586 he didn't imply it was dream at all lmao
Ok don’t want dream too be exposed
Claryce Koonce in the picture it shows an arrow pointing toward Drem, no Dream, And is said cheater
The funny thing is that, evolutionarily speaking, a T-Rex is probably more penguin than any human ever could be.
Bro u haven’t seen my waddle
CP Fusion try doing wall sits your entire life then you are officially penguin 👌
Jonathan Andrade Sam O’Nella reference?
Deco yea it is, I still can’t believe penguin knees are shaped like that. I’d imagine they’d get use to it right?
I beg to differ.
Reading new comments is like spain without the S
Yes
Lol
It's like going to a funeral without having fun
Lol
Yeah
Me: (watches video)
Zyphon: "I expose cheaters"
Me: Slowly closes my book on GTA5 cheat codes...
Me: clicks on video
Zyphon: I expose cheaters
Me: slowly closes Minecraft mods menu
Lol I have cheat menu for San Andreas and mods
I started minecraft because of PewDiePie
I started minecraft at 2015 cuz of ExplidingTNT
i heard about it in 2011 when someone talked about it in kindergarten, and then i started playing in 2012 back when you couldn’t explode tnt in creative in pocket edition, before cows and baby mobs and back when zombies dropped feathers. man has minecraft changed. there were also only iron tools in creative.
Edit: you also couldn’t open chests in creative either or open crafting tables. this applied in the pocket edition. i think i got it for pc in 2012-2014, but i can’t remember, as my account was deleted.
Ghostly Gamer I started Minecraft because of itsjerryandharry
In all honesty I would've doubted it the moment he messed up making a stone sword for these reasons:
In a random seed speedrun (glitchless ofc) You'd have to do hundreds of speedruns before you got as good technique as speedrunners like Dream and Illumina. So why did he
1. Get nervous
2. Mess up the movement to get a stone sword
Getting nervous would've obviously been because he was cheating, and either thought this could be a "World record" or was worried he would've gotten caught.
And the movement messing up a stone sword shows that he hadn't practised minecraft enough, not even speedrunning.
Toasted Wheat yeah, cos most speedrunners just go all out and 99% of the time meet with failure so they dont care enough unless they meet some milestones. The fact that he’s nervous is just funny
Also 69 likes pog
Drem: *cheats in his speedrun*
Dream Stans: you deserve all the hate you get!
Dream: *cheats in his speedrun*
Dream Stans: it's ok guyz.. It's just a game! 1! 1! 1
lmaoooo so true
Nah it's just that dream stans are children most of the time
@@GasterScientist Stan isn't what people make out to be. Being a "Stan" is fucking creepy and not okay. Those stans *are* children, no one that is 18 or older would "stan" for someone.
@@FutsuDoko listen to eminem stan to learn more about it
@@FutsuDoko stan means stalking fan right?
Zyphon: dont send hates to him
Fans: ignores
Zenitsu Agatsuma how bout I do a n y w a y
Yo it’s Zenitsu
If you are making a video calling out someone for cheating you're basically implying that you want him to get hate.
Fans are toxic
YOU NOOB DREAM CHEATERRR
“It’s is difficult to win an argument against an intelligent person, but it’s impossible to win an argument against an idiot.”
It's more like, It's hard to argue with a genius, but impossible to argue with a dishonest person who thinks he is sleek and fooling everyone while in reality is digging a grave for himself."
@@xiongjing1885 thats dumb though
@@xiongjing1885 I don't know about that
Yep all zyphons theories are true i trie the seed and its true left bottom corner
yeah they make stupid excuses
Bruh he even sounds like he’s faking it “oh no I forgot the beds” he says in a monotone voice as he sprints at the strong hold at full speed
@@pennortley1486 stop.
The Best Grapefruit Juice you stop
@@pennortley1486 You're spamming comments.
@Lil Waffle09 Are you actually defending this dude? Refer to Dream's comment on the original video.
The Best Grapefruit Juice lel he deleted his comment
Dream has a good reputation in the speed run community
That didn’t age well.......
aged like milk
@@andrealikeslemons aged like milk sitting out in the sun
I didn't have to look at loading screens or digging straight to the portals to know this was fake. The dude can't make a sword on his first attempt, and my 5-year-old nephew can.
id be more worried about the shame then making the run look real
FroggerbobT LMAO
He's better off using the recipe book
"Mom can we get Dream at home?"
Mom: "We already have Dream at home"
Dream at home:
Here I have passed down the *under rated comment* award
*that's quite a bit of damage*
Oof is all i can say
Now that's a lot of damage!
*Destruction 100*
Almost every one commenting: it’s drem not dream!
Every one else: yeah, we know
Not really. There are some idiots in the comment section.
@@BubbleBFDI yes xd
just look in the live chat
U didnt see the premier
Yeah, it's so annoying
"Dream has a good reputation from the speedrunning community."
NOT ANYMORE
This video was about Drem not Dream bozo
@@hayzplayz he knows that, he was talking about dream cuz he used a mod to cheat, bozo
@@Nvmmmmmm1102 dream didn’t cheat, bozo
@@hayzplayz yes he did, he even made a video about it, and then he deleted the video, bozo
@@Nvmmmmmm1102 him saying he didn’t, bizo
Plot twist: he was trying to get the world record for speed running with a seed.
Edit: set seed, not seed
Nani
He says he dose
Use a seed
Others do that its allowed
Sevou your supposed to load a random seed
Drem is trying to get people who accidentally type dreams name without an A to see his channel
Ewe blitz
Genius!!!
This sounds like a stretch...
@@SafetyKitten bruh
Plausible
Something that nobody has pointed out is that he mined down at the perfect values 1850 and 650 (numbers that are easy to remember). Somebody who was actually triangulating wouldn't have cared about whether they were mining down at a perfect coordinate location or not. It could just be me but the fact that he mined down at such an easy to memorize location (coordinate wise) offers more proof that this was faked. Just my 2cents.
totally agree that his run is fake but all these tiny arguments are so silly like u could say this about any legit speed runner who happened to dig down in a certain spot and while sure, maybe in this case it holds a little meaning it proves absolutely nothing and could easily be a coincidence
Yu hav big bryn
@@ikeasucculent4734 yeah i agree, people are on nicetwiceyt's record literally saying ANYTHING to try and say his run is faked. "font is not legal he used client" when it's unicode font, "his movements don't line up with his keyboard" like what? i swear some people will say ANYTHING, it's so dumb
True
@Nathan Terrelonge-Tillery what are you saying?
How much you wanna bet that he named himself DREM so if he got caught he’d be mistaken for DREAM
He answered a similar question on stream and he said that he was first to come up with this Dream like name. On his old Fortnite videos he was named Drem and that was before Dream was popular. Dream only had about 100-1000 subscribers at the time.
Drem made his channel name before Dream and Dream was not known at all.
@MakayoT23 Yeah there's £ but there's also $ (my currency) or €.
ill bet 1,00,00 bucks
Doesn't matter both cheated
PEOPLE ARE SAYING "Dream got exposed" guys its DREM not DREAM
TheIndian Gamer you don’t know drem tem?? snackback and georgewasfound??
@TheIndian Gamer tf
Why did he use Dreams tweet then?
@@silverwolf3544 Im dissapointed in you
@@silverwolf3544 Dreams' tweet is exposing Drem.
How the crafting tables have turned...
again.....
The stone crafting tables
and thay have again
@@RezacAndToast and then again .
like pls just too much maths for me during holidays
@@RezacAndToast www.reddit.com/r/statistics/comments/kiqosv/comment/ggse2er
Lmao
Cheater: I wasnt cheating
Zyphon: prove it
Cheater: No!
This is the thing any cheater would say to make them selfs like normal lololol
@Ty The Great You know you can't practice a random seed right
Ty The Great well he never said that and how are you supposed to practice a random seed. You can practise techniques and tricks but not random seeds
@@ashwinnaidoo796 I'm pretty sure, that's what he meant
Are you all blind, he just had a good gaming chair, no cheatz
That thumbnail didn’t age too well
Lel
imagine naming yourself drem, and then to cheat in speedrunning, it's like he had a typo typing "dream" so he had a stroke in speedrunning as well :)
I mean, you’re talking about him aren’t you?
So all things considered, he met his goal of gaining internet fame somewhat
r/murderedbywords
I think you had the stroke mate
Kid: Mom, can we have dream?
Mom: We already have dream at home
Dream at home:
DREM
Muhammad Soleh OH DREEEEEEEEM
how unoriginal
Too underrated
@@LantyYT i will force feed you apple cider vinegar
@@layalsaleh4103 pls do daddy
His name is "Drem"
He's technically Dream without a letter A
I bet Drem's real name is Cly
since Dream's real name is Clay.
Not funny didnt laugh
@@shotcrib77v56 that's your opinion on my joke and i respect that
"Cly Block"
@@twilightlight_ amazing
wtf i didnt know it was child wild clay
Looking back at this video, I can’t believe the record has dropped to 7 MINUTES over the past 3 years. That’s actually so wild.
Plot twist: drem is actually George trying to beat "Dream" speedrun so dream would be proud
Hallo. Thanks to God's help, I want to let Him use me as His messenger, so would you mind telling me whether or not you choose to believe in Him? Also, I know that this wasn't asked for. I copy and paste things to efficiently communicate with and help people, so please don't report me for this.
Lol I have the same profile pic on another acc
#IsleOfDream
dead magma cube, I know! Hallo! I don’t inhabit Germany, but I like things about it! Also, you aren’t obligated to answer, but would you mind telling me whether or not you willingly believe in God?
dead magma cube, would you mind telling me why you don’t willingly believe?
All of hit movement seemed shaky, like they were fumbling A LOT, and doing small things that would decrease your time GREATLY, like the portal scene for the end, he places each eye so carefully and slowly
He knew he was doing something bad
i agree with ur comment but everyone doesnt want to misclick can lose an eye but he did do it slowly but tbh everyone would :D
Yeah. He kept bonking on his jumps and crafted painfully slow
@@Xeao___ no not everyone it's a speedrun
This Drem-guy didn't even strike me as a particularly good player.
Yeah yeah, he was nervous, but how do you almost mess up crafting a stone sword?
Or how do you take the time to casually throw things you don't need into the water. The water. He literally went to the ocean just to throw things out of his inventory. He could have done that anywhere.
Also notice how he waited above the portal room in a weird way as if he was like "Okay, how do I get down there without taking any damage?" while like every other speedrunner would be like "Yeetus my waterbuckeetus" or they would at least jump down. Fuck damage. They have a speedrun to do.
And his jumps hurt my brain.
Almost at the beginning, when he was in sight of the village, he did not stop jumping and thus took fall damage.
It wasn't much and didn't matter, of course not. But speedrunners take every possible advantage and do not want to be slowed down in any way. Especially not by completely unneccessary damage on an open field, which slows you down momentarily.
And one more point out of a more psychological point of view: There is nothing more boring to speedrunners than just running and jumping to their destination. They need to keep themselves occupied. With ANYTHING really.
Be it randomly swinging your sword, switching items you hold in your hand, placing blocks under yourself while you run or the occasional mlg-waterbucket.
Or you just don't because you literally studied the seed and have to remember everything. So you don't need extra distractions.
...”yeetus my waterbuckeetus”...
These are legit' points. He doesn't get distracted, even though he is "Nervous", if you're nervous, you always check your surroundings just to see if you can do something faster, he even said he was nervous though-
yeetus my buckeetus damn you got me XD
anyways, yes all what you said and all people opposing "Drem" are mostly correct.
fucking bad name to be honest, Dream wold be better...
From now on, I'm gonna call mlg water bucket as _yeetus my waterbuckeetus._ It's quite catchy actually.
The Valenberry yes please do
Drem cheating
Everyone: Imagine faking a speedrun
Dream cheating
Everyone: Imagine getting mad about a block game
Dear Dream stans, please be consistent, thank you.
they go out of their way to acuse and harass people for 'cheating', one example is mcc where they send death threats to others just because their favorite content creator didn't win
@@goodlightpringles6335 exactly
ItS jUsT a GaMe!!1!!!11!! Bitch please these stans don't know what to say cause they were speaking facts
Dream stans are just kids that don’t understand the problem