Disney is STILL Copyright Claiming Steamboat Willie Videos
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2024
- Steamboat Willie's Mickey Mouse is in the public domain, and there's nothing Walt Disney Animation Studios can do about it. However, UA-cam uploads of the Steamboat Willie cartoon are still being copyright claimed by Disney. What's going on here? Is there any way to make money off of the original Mickey Mouse now that Disney doesn't own the copyright anymore?
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(cant we just sue disney because they are copyrighting something that WE OWN????)
They just can’t admit they don’t own steamboat Willie anymore
EDIT: I think I started an argument in the replies
Ikr! They should just accept it
Technically they do
They're very stubborn.
Not really, everything expired, now it's in domain, not this Mickey. @@CodyTDI176
They're really coping
Imagine owning a character for 95 years and then throwing a copyright tantrum a week after they become public domain
Imagine building your company on public domain fairytales. But when it is your turn to add to it you throw a tantrum for it.
I mean, literally everyone saw this coming. It's objectively wrong of them, but we all knew they'd go down fighting.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa Yeah it is Disney after all, they don't want other people touching their beloved mouse
They threw a tantrum because immediately people started giving them the finger and doing all sorts of twisted Mickey Mouse content to mess with them.
Say it with me kids: THE PUBLIC DOMAIN DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT!!! It's not the carefree utopia lazy youtubers who didn't make their homework told you it is. You still need distribution rights when you try to make money off of content that you didn't make. That's how it has always worked. Disney is completely within their right. Vailskibum has misinformed you!
I wish the law was set up so that false copyright claims, dmca takedowns, etc, were considered WORSE than somebody actually violating copyright, but unfortunately, that just isn’t the case right now…
Is just the music that still in copyright.
Or just equal. Like, if a creator could sue for false flagging the frivolous "you used 5 seconds, that's ours now" would be over. Looking at you Nintendo.
@@catholiccontriversyI don’t know how that would work against Nintendo since they are a Japanese company with different copyright rules
@@zwillscoopchannel9689 actual law may be different, but they are the poster child of "if you so much as show 1 screenshot we're coming after you."
@@catholiccontriversy ya I can agree with you
The public domain is a blessing and a curse at the same time.
It's worth all the horrid horror movies to have Mickey Mouse in the public domain.
its a blessing, period
@@christopherrapczynski204It was a blessing until Disney got their claws on it and did irreversible damage to it
@@tttttttttttttttp12 So does this mean Disney is going to take down all of the Steamboat Willie videos?
@@jojomayard7233 I was talking about how Disney lobbied to keep their greedy hands on their properties longer. The time for something to go into public domain used to be 56 years and now it's 95. Ironic considering Disney was built off of public domain stories.
Disney just cant accept defeat can they?
Because they’re happy with their fall
@@FnAstroBoi
Why would they BE though? Last year was meant to be their special 100 years!
@@DrasticFox2004 so? Hitler also has anniversaries 😂
@@beyondthefilms6302
What in the name of Holy Mary and FUCK does *THIS* have to do with Ad*lf H*tler? 😡
Do you realize how bad of a damn comparison that is?
I feel like it’s just them trying to give us the finger before they crumble
Disney is a cautionary tale of what happens when you let corporations get away with anything for the right price.
Wich shouldn't even be legal in the first place
It's a problem with UA-cam and their AI algorithm, not Disney
Imagine how mad they would be if Willie appeared in a SpongeBob episode
Imagine How Mad Disney Would Be If Steamboat Willie Made Friends With Draculaura From Nick's Monster High
Imagine how mad Disney would be if Willie becomes the fifth ninja on the turtles.
Imagine how mad Disney would be if Steamboat Willie appeared in ninjago
This just shows to me that Disney is so butthurt about how they couldn’t keep Mickey under their umbrella until the end of time. This is also the Hydra scenario. For every video they copyright strike, two more will pop up.
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The reason why Disney copyrighted the video is because they probably already uploaded to UA-cam.
@@happyguy9783 But _anyone_ can upload it to UA-cam!
Unless they set fire to the website
@@azazel1091 Or it could be that new Mickey Mouse Horror movie Mickey Mouse Blood and Cheese.
I really hope it's just UA-cam's content ID system not being adjusted yet, but I can totally see it as Disney just not being able to admit defeat. Either way, I hope something is done about it soon.
im sure thats probably whats happening
Very much agreed
I am pretty sure it’s just the content ID system as I have heard that Disney would not fight to keep the copyright for longer so it feels really weird that they now suddenly want it extended? Sounds off so I am more inclined on the content ID thing until proven otherwise
Pretty sure that's what happening.
@@patfre there is absolutely no shot Disney can extend the ENTIRE copyright system of USA anymore. They are practically detested at this point, the public would riot if they try that
I wasn't surprised that Disney would still try every tiny legal action they can to still try and make it seem as if this public domain is still theirs. They're an aggressive massive corporation. They think they're above the law. And will do any tiny loopholes just so they can have it their way. I work in a small tech company, and our company despite being small always have meetings and plans for anything that can affect our work process model. Disney is a colossal company. I'm sure they had an entire team planning out their retaliation years ago in anticipation of the Steamboat Willie going into public domain. Every single planned action was already set. I'm sure Disney already made connections with UA-cam's top executives.
It's just Bob Iger calm down
This is different, now this is Public by default, if I make my own version of that Mickey, I can even make a new design, not that used by Disney but something new, that would now be my copyright till 70 years after the day I die.
ok
Disney is like a caged lion. It's very unlikely for it to kill you, but if you stick your hand inside its cage for even a second, it will take every chance it gets to bite you
UA-cam's system probably doesn't know that it's on the public domain now, so Disney is taking advantage of it
Likely the opposite, Disney lawyers are probably yelling at UA-cam/Alphabet to pull it from the ID system as it's leaving them exposed to a very public fraud trial. Any suit is not important as it will just be settled out of court but the press will run with it because Disney's name sells well in headlines especially when it's a scandal.
Or maybe the music is still in copyright.
@@cristobalgabrielramirezmas5274 No way, because the music used in the short was public domain AT THE TIME Steamboat Willie was released, so there's literally nothing wrong with it. Thus, Disney is making a false claim of copyright which is kind of not allowed, possibly even illegal. I would like to see some people team up and take Disney to court honestly, fuck the corporation
@@officialtoddhoward69 Under the CLASSICS Act, sound recordings from 1928 would have a term of protection of 100 years from creation, meaning that Disney could theoretically enforce the sound recording copyright until 1929.
@@officialtoddhoward69 Now you understand how complicated the law of copyright is, you can't even name him Mickey Mouse or use his later design. Face it, you're never going to win against Disney, EVER.
I know they don’t own Steamboat willie. But I bet they’re angry about Mickey becoming a horror movie and game
Well they legally cant do shit
@@Ratchetzillastudios Nah
It’s so good to hear that they are mad lets keep going
@@Ratchetzillastudios still somehow gonna be better than wish
@altagarcha that's not just wish, disney is just overall failing. Lightyear, elemental, strange world. Turning red were all failures
Disney: “You can have this now.”
Public: “Really?”
Disney: “No lol”
Disney: “No not really. Being evil is too much fun”
Disney we don't own it anymore but we still copyright strike you
and take your video down
UA-cam we don't care just give us money whatever your advertising
Disney oh okay here you go
UA-cam thanks now let's take this video down even you don't own it
The sad part is this is not joke big corporations control UA-cam they paid them and UA-cam lack a good lackey comply
I'm more so thinking that this is primarily on UA-cam not updating their Content ID lists after certain works had become public domain. But then again, Disney is also known for this kind of copyright bombing.
It seems like Disney refuses to accept public domain for their expired projects.
the short is stll owned by disney
@@caydencampbell3069 It is not.
@@caydencampbell3069 not anymore
@@caydencampbell3069 Not anymore, it became public domain in Jan 1st. This not just just Include Mickey, but everything in the short like Minnie and Pete too.
@@Redsword603 Wille is in the public domain but the short itself
We would prefer rest of Dr. Seuss books and characters enter in public domain.
Yeah, that makes more sense.
Dr suess characters are in public domain?
Nooooo. We don't want another garbage movie like Blood and Honey
@@jonal5126What are you talking about?? Dr. Seuss stories has been used by different media ever since, like for example, the Grinch is used to this day for decades.
@@jonal5126
Oh yeah, fuck that too ✋
Wished Disney can get in trouble for false copyright claiming videos
I uploaded Steamboat Willie (Remastered 1080p) on 1st January, Disney claimed copyright and blocked it. I immediately submitted a dispute, while it still says copyright but the video is no longer blocked.
Scary enough, Steamboat Willie was supposed to be in the Public Domain almost 40 years ago. Disney kept manipulating the law to make sure that they keep the copyright until they couldn't.
I blame this more on UA-cam than Disney. Anyone who knows UA-cams sheer incompetence, knows they're to blame.
In large part anyway
disney really can’t let go. they might face a lawsuit… i hope.
me: FACE IT DISNEY, U LOST, DEAL WITH IT, HE IS OURS NOW AND YOU CAN’T STOP IT
Courtney is suing them
@@CrispyTDbro think we in a tdi episode 😭
@@pxpyt TDI?
I hope so as well.
This has never happened before when a work from the past has entered the public domain. This just goes to show how frickin seriously Disney in particular takes its intellectual property, and it leaves me worried as to what might happen when other well-known works enter the public domain in future years.
As Vail said though, it may just be the automated copyright system still flagging things
There has been plenty of work that entered public domain. Winnie the Pooh for example. There is a huge list of works that been in the public domain.
@@Voorhees-JasonYes, but they're saying all the other times a work has entered public domain, this didn't happen
Someone is going to have to sue Disney before they give up Steamboat Willie. They are probably hoping that nobody's going to challenge them.
We live in a society where you have to pay for justice!
The fact that Val swore means this is a very bad problem.
It’s just a damm word get over it
@@Eoin_stuff Words have meanings, get over it...
Delete this
@@Eoin_stuffhah, curse word :3
You get over it, @@Eoin_stuff .
I swear Disney really hates the law 😂😂😂
Real
For Real
Unless they can change it to their benefit, yeah pretty much
They can, they control copyright in its entirety, they're not a company, rather a governing force that controls the copyright law.@@lisalos7170
disney still owns the short just not the character so they have every right to do this
This is still perfect. (Vailskibum, I hope you're reading this.) I'm actually going to be writing a book about Steamboat Willie through a different lense:
Young 14-year-old, Mick, an extremely poor kid who lives in the 30s. Yep. A kid. No amprophamorfic animal. A kid. A human kid. Anyways, Mick lives with his his parents in an abandoned windmill. His dream is to see the world, but unfortunately that is most likely not going to happen. It's more unfortunate how behind his parents' backs, he is actually a troubled, well-known bread thief, nicknamed "Mouse" which is the title of this book. The reason they call him Mouse is because how small he is and how he sneaks crumbs. He is one day apprehended by the police and when they find out his son's a thief, they're very disappointed in him. Luckily, Mouse is not going to prison because he's a child and how he's poor, and the police only give him a warning. Now desperate, Mouse needs a job, so he goes looking for one, and was in luck to get one at a Steamboat as the cabin boy, which is shipping animals across the world. The owner of this boat, Peter, is quite the brute. He's such a jerk of a boss and treats his crew poorly. As the boat leaves to ship the animals, another member who came for the job and was late on her first day. Mouse was able to get Peter to turn the boat around. The girl's name was Minnette and she was just about the same age as Peter. She needs this job because her mom has leukemia. Throughout the trip, Mouse and Minnette join a romantic bond towards one another. One night, while Peter was sleeping, Mouse and Minnette shared a dance on the main deck, dancing to a song on the stereo. Mouse and Minnette also have a bond with the animals on the ship. It's more sad how Peter wants to transport these animals to an illegal butcher shop and turn them into leather clothing. He only did this for money and money only. Luckily, at the end, Mouse and Minnette stop Peter from doing his wrongs, and Peter gets arrested after Mouse reveals to the cops that it's illegal. After that, Peter goes to prison, and Mouse now owns the Steamboat. What now? Mouse and Minnette are heavily in love, Mouse's parents are no longer poor, and Mouse can finally live up to his dream in seeing the world. The story ends, with Mouse steering the ship, whistling a tune.
Hope you like my pitch. I had really good time.
Yeah…
Probably an out-of-date script the programming department forgot to deactivate.
I’m sure it’ll be fixed soon.
2024: *Steamboat Willie is in the public domain*
Disney: "That sign won't stop me, because I can't read."
Actually part of the episode is trademarked so Disney can legally do this
@@meep5604how does that even make sense? So when SpongeBob gets in the public domain, Nickelodeon still owns half the series so they can just take it?
@meep5604 Stop bootlicking 🤡
No, this system is for copyright claiming, so no they can't use trademark in this scenario!@@meep5604
@@user-sd3vd9nz2p Unfortunately, that's _exactly_ it. Trademarks, as long as they're still in active use, _never_ expire (unlike copyright which does even if it's still in use), and Disney is still in their full legal - but not moral - right to "defend against people confusing derivitive works for official ones". And that's the rub... people _aren't_ confusing the Steamboat Willies as official, they're remixing the 🐬🐬🐬 out of it because copyright (the (in)ability to use the work for ANY unauthorized purpose) no longer applies. Trademark is supposed to _only_ be used against "trying to pass off a derivitive work as having been made by the original company", but the Big Mouse Upstairs never got that particular memo.
No matter what we do Disney will always try to keep its fingers on the plate.
Music in Copyright.
@@cristobalgabrielramirezmas5274Wasn’t the music made around the same time as the actual short. You’d think that they’d go into the public domain together
How on earth did they content claim the audio of Brock's dub? It's literally just the now public domain cartoon along with his own original recording. They can't claim any of that.
Disney lost the copyright... they still have the trademark rights though.
They have shown they are still interested in the steamboat willie cartoon (updated whistle in animation openings and other media appearances).
Of course Disney is doing this💀💀
And UMG.
Cant be surprised from the capitalist megacorp that lobbied congress to fuck over copyright law for so long in order to keep Mickey out of the Public Domain
itz cuz of TM they had trademarked the sound so no one could use it ):
I got a bigger surprise when Vali swore, which you don't hear- well, NEVER hear in his videos.
Yeah I was not expecting that
Same but it was so smooth
When did that happen?
@@IAnimateStuffIDK 1:44
@@IAnimateStuffIDK 1:43
isn’t it illegal to false copyrighting content?
If you guys watched MatPat's video, you'll know that Disney trademarked the first few frames of Steamboat willie. Trademarks can never go into the public domain and that's the reason.
@@TopperHasBeenFound doesn’t that defeat to whole purpose of copyright?
@@TopperHasBeenFoundTrademarks cannot be used like copyrights. That’s abuse of the trademark. The purpose of a trademark is to allow purchasers to know who they are dealing with, i.e. a mark of someone or company in a trade. As long as the person isn’t claiming to be Disney or be representing Disney in any way, they should be in the clear. Disney claiming such a video would be abusing their trademark.
@@TopperHasBeenFound That's not the reason. UA-cam's content ID system checks for supposed copyright infringements, not trademark infringements.
It's probably because UA-cam has never had to deal with public domain stuff before since the copyright period is so unreasonably long
UA-cam doesn't have a system in place for public domain. Also, similar to fair use, it is only a legal defense not a "remove the false copyright claim" thing meaning you have to go to court and proof the work you used originally was created x years ago. This is very true for music, since if played to the music sheet, two covers sound identical without footage
they arent ready to have this talk yet
They're the greediest
First but no one cares :/
They are more greedy then mr krabs
@@Spirales2012he never said anything about first man
@@Spirales2012shut up
I edited my comment lol @@un0_reverse_card
The bigger issue is that UA-cam takes a long time to update itself to newly made public domain videos
I’m definitely not surprised they’ve been trying to change copyright law for like years at this point
It's actually pathetic Disney copyright claims Steamboat Willie regardless even if they're fully aware it's public domain.
Much of the short is public domain in the US. It might not enter Australia’s own public domain until 2042.
If you guys watched MatPat's video, you'll know that Disney trademarked the first few frames of Steamboat willie. Trademarks can never go into the public domain and that's the reason.
Yeah, you cant just reupload the entirety of the original steamboat willie cartoon and when drawing steamboat willie, disney could argue that it looks too similar to the current mickey mouse.
@@TopperHasBeenFound FINALLY! Someone who is making some sense here!
@@TopperHasBeenFound also what video? I can't find it. 🤷♂️
This just actually shows the degenerate stuff that Disney does to people using their characters in sponsorships, videos, and etc because they went to the public domain yet they still want to keep their characters because they are a terrible company who just wants our money.
Stick to Dreamworks.
Is the music idiots.
@@bigmacintosh1766I actually agree with you on this one ngl
As was said here though, it’s possibly just the automated system claiming it, which isn’t always accurate
Disney obviously can't accept that Steamboat Willie doesn't belong to them anymore.
Like an abusive boyfriend whose girlfriend got away.
Crazy thing is Steamboat Willie has been public domain for years already around the world in most other countries.
No, it's an American work so American copyright law applies.
technically if if disney had not lobbied Steamboat willie would of been on the public domain in 1984 because of the 1908 copyright law but then in the 70's they lobbied for it to be extended, and when it was about to expire again in 2004 they lobbied it to be extended to an addition 20 years in 1998 which is how we got the 2024 expired date
I get it if people are calling him *Mickey* since that's not entirely true, saying he's Mickey is at risk, it's *Steamboat Willie* (original mickey) but _nopee_ they still want to chokehold even this yet its illegal
He's called Mickey in in Steamboat Willie. Steamboat Willie is the name of the ship. The character was always Mickey.
Mickey's name is public domain! You can find it in the title card of Steamboat Willie, among other places.
@@waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976Ah yes, my favorite anime character is Cowboy Bebop./lh
@fermata4425 Yes, I don't know where people got the idea he wasn't called Mickey. I guess some popular person must have said it and spread the misinformation.
@@waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976they say it so that disney can't say anything about them using a copyrighted name, because the name Mickey Mouse is still owned by them
It makes me laugh to see Disney is trying so hard to keep recognition and the mouse under their umbrella 💀💀
Music in Copyright
Yeah, I heard people say they were probably mad. Now we know they're having a FIT 😆
Disney is just being petty at this point.
Knowing Disney they think they are above the law and won't respect the public domain thing even though it is over 95 years. Like do they want Steam Boat Willie to be forgotten completely?
They also don't own the copyright to the music including mickey whistling, because the song is based from a song called steamboat bill released in 1910. And also the same year before steamboat willie came out there was a full hour and 10 minute film called steamboat bill Jr.
this...and the fact that there are other characters in the short who are not part of the public domain
@@angelinacamacho8575 If they're in the short, then they're in the public domain.
Also the fact that Steamboat Bill is based on an even older composition called Casey Jones
You can't escape it's creators/owners, no matter how much you try....
:(
*Wilhelm Scream intensifys*
I thought i was the only one who got a copyright clam, I reported it that if it was a mistake but I didn’t get any word form UA-cam about it, Im a small creator and I don’t even have the subs to make my videos monetize if I wanted to but I’m glad you shared this problem that other UA-camrs that could have the same problem, big or small
they LITERALLY don't own it anymore...
1:43 you know this is bad when Vailskibum starts swearing.
Valskibum literally warned that his videos contained swearing
Read his policy in the description
hearing vailskibum swear at 1:43 feels wrong but also right at the same time
The way he fucking said it had me dying lmao
I LOVE IT!
“The cow goes moo, the pig says oink, nickelodeon goes F-“
He's supposed to be PG😢
@@bigmacintosh1766Valskibum literally warned that his videos contained swearing
Read his policy in the description
Disney: YOU WILL NEVER GET A CENT OUT OF ME!!!
Vailskibum swearing is something I never thought I would hear.
I never thought I'd see vailskibum say "biiiitch" no hesitation.
Valskibum literally warned that his videos contained swearing
Read his policy in the description
It's only been a Week with Steamboat Willie and Why am I not surprised to see Disney doing this.
1:44 hearing Vali saying bitch is one of the most unexpected things i've ever heard in my life.
I knew they'd copyright strike. It's only a matter of time until they extended the copyright laws yet again.
The same thing literally happened to me as well! My Steamboat Willie reaction also got blocked, and after I disputed it, thankfully it got unblocked, but then a different part of the video copyright claimed.
Disney will just try and extend copyright to another 10 years, thus removing mickey, Pooh, Peter Pan, and Bambi from the public domain
They won't, there would be too much backlash and they don't really make that much money from those old shorts anymore. Disney would be fighting a losing battle
@@ALegitPooperVideos I would say that I agree, but Disney seems to be doing a Go Defunct speedrun at this point, so there's like a 50% that they'll attempt to do this.
Also, you can't retroactively extend the copyright of something already in the public domain. Once it's in the public domain, there's no going back. Public domain is public domain.
1:11 Heavy’s Laughing was perfect
Like the OG Walt Disney CEO, The company is salty on
not having massive control and being above the law.
They did ruthlessly plagiarize Kimba the White Lion ( The Lion King), then blatantly claimed classic fairy tales despite all
of it being public domain (They are almost 200 years ripe for everyone)
Because Disney is furious that Classic Mickey is public domain now, so this is their attempt at revenge.
I just can't get over Vail swearing.😂
OMG IKR? thats the first time ive ever heard swearing on this channel and my jaw dropped
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"BIIITCH" HE GREW WITH US LOL😂
AYO
When?
i expect this after the second video of vailskibum
videos
Second time i heard Vail swear and it still feels surreal
Valskibum literally warned that his videos contained swearing
Read his policy in the description
I smell a lawsuit incoming.
That won't happen. Disney trademarked a part of the episode and as such have the right to take videos down that display the whole episode.
@@meep5604that’s the problem.
The trademark for the episode has EXPIRED.
It’s not their property anymore. Anybody can use it.
@@meep5604 Not how copyright or trademark works, even if Disney thinks it does. A lawsuit is indeed brewing.
@meep5604 buddy that doesn't legally fly
@@alexappsapp1332 They don't have the trademark to the whole character, just the 5 second clip of the episode that they play before all new Disney movies and use in their marketing
I honestly had a feeling disney would try something like this, but the funniest part is that they keep failing😂😂😂
For me this actually seems like a UA-cam issue, rather than Disney's.
If UA-cam forgets to take public domain from it's database for detecting copyrighted material, then it is not a Disney issue, it's UA-cam.
never thought i'd see a day where vailskibum actually swears
Valskibum literally warned that his videos contained swearing
Read his policy in the description
Welp…YOU HAVE ONE GOD DAMN JOB DISNEY
The reason for this may because the copyright is still there, they didnt remove it from systems yet, it JUST came into the public domain. Either way i bet disney also isny regretting any of this
Maybe, but also If you watched MatPat's video, you'll know that Disney trademarked the first few frames of Steamboat willie. Trademarks can never go into the public domain and that's also one of the reasons.
@@TopperHasBeenFoundtrademark isn't the same as copyright
The same thing happened to me. I made a silly little meme that was steamboat willie for the first few seconds and yet it still got a copyright claim for the audio because of the automated system
Hearing vailskibum swear is surreal
Valskibum literally warned that his videos contained swearing
Read his policy in the description
typical Disney
(Also I didn’t expect vailskbum to swear…)
The song used at the beginning of the cartoon is from a 1911 song called "Steamboat Bill". In 1928, it was not public domain.
That could be it
@@michaelrhett4958 Be what?
The song is probably the reason it got copyrighted
@@Hion982 That's even more hypocritical than I imagined!
That makes it public domain as well which makes Disney's claim to putting the copyright here that much more idiotic.
This COULD just be UA-cam's AI not yet having been updated to regard Steamboat Willie as public domain...but it could also be Disney having no respect for the concept of the public domain and still wanting to think of Steamboat Willie as theirs.
Is it possible to sue Disney over these copyright claims?
I'm not a lawyer so I'm asking the internet, obviously everyone here will know every law and loophole and be willing to tell me.
Interesting, great video, Vailskibum!
bruh its been 49 seconds
Is anyone gonna talk about how Vailskibum sweared 💀
He is an adult.
@@congaspy2058that is true...and he does have the right to do so...
it's just the first time I've ever heard him swear...
@@NewBetaMarioSeriessame man
@@Funtimeryan2same I never heard him swear
What's the big deal? He's an adult.
Disney called, they want their mouse back.
I've uploaded it to both my UA-cam channels and got the same thing to happen to me I've even called out UA-cam and Disney on it on Twitter and then UA-cam just tells about copyright safe music and shares a link on Public Domain seriously they're useless!
I think this is mostly because of the copyright system on UA-cam not being updated yet or something similar to that. Or it could be because a lot of the reuploads are parodies that have original audio.
Yeah it's probably that.
who knows
Fun fact. While steamboat Willy is in the public domain, Walt Disney still owns the trademark to the intro of walt Disney animation studios. The intro just so happens to be a whistling portion of steam boat Willy. It’s entirely possible that Disney is using that trademark to copyright things. Don’t know for sure
I hope that’s the case and if it is the case I hope everyone uses it without knowing it
To be fair. It won’t stop anyone using Mickey Mouse. The horror movies cannot legally be stopped. This more just applies to the actual whistling bit of steamboat willie
@@TheLimepatch even if they used the whistling bit?
Only if they use anything to similar to a trademark owned by fisney
@@TheLimepatch hopefully they do so it’s taken down
For the first time in a few years or months we got to hear Vailskibum swear
I remember reading about this and I think I know why this is happening, so basically what happened is Disney did releases the copyright claim and anyone can use it, but I remember reading somewhere that there was a rule where you cannot use the old Mickey Mouse for making money or promotion
I know this is out of context, but I never heard Vailskibum swear in all my life watching him. 1:43 is where he swears
Yeah that caught me off gaurd
Congrats, you are safe from PTanker
Another classic “Bruh” moment from Disney
I heard that while they don't own the copyright to steamboat willie, the audio wasn't added in until a year later. They came still legally claim the audio for another year.
First time I've heard Vail swear in a video. Actually awesome
The only thing I can think of as to why they're able to still Copyright Claim Steamboat Willie is the signature whistle. Because they've used that for their promotional brand material, Disney can make an argument for Brand Confusion in the appropriate court, but IANAL.
It’s because Brock was doing an impression of their voices. Their voices are still not public domain because they don’t speak in those shorts.
How are they gonna copyright somebody’s voice
@@veenatamara4543 the way Mickey and Minnie speaks is under copyright i think. Also, songs have copyright. Songs that uses an human voice. Basically the voice in the song is under copyright. I think is the same for Mickey and Minnie voices
But that's his voice impressions of them though
@@jonal5126
You legally cannot copyright a voice.
Parody falls under Fair Use though.
My guess is that youtube hasn't updated the copyright id system yet so that is most likely what is going on
Not an expert, but I’ll guess there could be a loophole related to the specific version of the cartoon we see uploaded being refinished in some way later. Like receiving slightly updated audio, slightly cleaned up visuals, or anything related to the cartoon now being digital instead of film-based. Could be compared to how most classical music is public domain by this point but you still have to be very careful if monetarily using someone else’s performance/recording of it as that is still legally owned.
It's easily as simple as the content ID system like you said, it's not disney's fault. The animation must not have had it's content ID protection removed off the platform yet, which I'm pretty sure is UA-cam's job.
Bingo
That’s why I’m confused that almost no one else in the comments here are referring to that possibility which Vail himself said in this video
UA-cam is likely just being slow LOL
@@RB01.10 it’s cuz people are dumb and don’t know how technology works. Glad I’m not the only one 😂
Oh boy, Disney's at it again
It's because of the whistle genius
@@makinyoumad9498 The whistle is public domain too, genius.
@xei2694 It isn't, genius
1:44 the day finally came and it packed a punch.
I think hypothetically if disney IS manually striking this stuff, its because they hope once people see its risky buisness “touching their willie”, they’ll back off and people will just forget or not care that its public domain.
Which is why we must not back off and continue using it. These corporations bully us because we let them.