I use Bindflex 1161, an excellent water based polyvinyl acetate book binding glue. It allows me to comfortably tape 20 folds in one go. In the case of more stubborn (stiffer)bellows tape it's a good idea to let a first very thin layer of glue dry completely before then re-gluing the tape and put it in place. Makes the job a lot easier and faster.
In most cases, I only tape my own (new) bellows for my own instruments. When retaping other bellows, the old tape has to be removed completely.(unless it is paper such as in Hohner Ericas, which is notoriously difficult to remove). Sometimes it's a good idea to use slightly wider tape (if ordering from Italy: 24mm instead of the usual 19mm).
Thank you for giving me an idea and show me the way to do this job.It will be the first time i'll try to do this job .I hope i can do easy as you do. :)
I would like to know that myself! It's very difficult to a) get the right type of cardboard and b) fold it in professional way that doesn't betray right away that you've done it yourself. Folded cardboard can be ordered in 1m lengths from companies such as Carini Dena in Italy. You can specify the number (usually 20 or 21) and depth (somewhere between ab. 25 and 35 mm) of the folds.
nice video pleace make some more abhout accrodions i realy liked..thanks. tell-me you just glue on top of the older strap, or you take out the older?. thanks by
Joe Gancher Please forgive me for not answering earlier: In my facebook account (Olav Bergflodt) you'll find lots of stuff about bellows making + accordion construction in general.
I removed the old paper on my Erica bellows but, along the way there were a few nicks here and there, nothing to deep. Will applying the new tape be good enough to seal and possible leaks? None of the cuts went through the cardboard. Also,do you retape all side of the bellows in one day? Lastly, for future knowledge are there any other tricks to remove old tape? Water, heat etc...
Erica bellows are indeed notoriously difficult to de-tape. But I'm sure your new tape will not only cover most scars but also seal minor leaks should there be any. All sides are taped in one go. Fortunately, in most cases old tape is not too difficult to remove. I mostly use the wedge-side of my German type tuning tools (see video) to lift a bit of the old tape from the metal corner and then use my fingers to pull off the strip. Oftentimes the old strips have turned brittle, so you may have to repeat this on other parts of the fold. Don't use any sharp tools. Small knives may be useful if sufficiently blunted. Water may do more damage than good, so this wouldn't be something I'd recommend. Heat? Maybe, if animal hide glue has been used, but it has to be applied somehow, which may be a bit tricky.
Thanks a lot for sharing. I would like to know what kind of glue is good ? Seems like "Resistol 850 " , is it ? Thanks in advance for your kind attention.
hello sir, i am really admired with your work, i am also building a diatonic accordion, but my bellows are too heavy to pull and push, so it doesn't make a good air fluxe. My question is what kind of leather do you use?
There may be some accordion repair books, but I couldn't tell you how useful they are. I consider accordion building/repairing/tuning a regular profession. If your goal is to do professional high quality work, you would need proper education (which may take several years). As to the type of glue, see my answer to Piscator Redux below.
That's a very clever method of doing this. What type of glue are you using, and how fast does it dry? At my speed, I could see the glue on the tape drying out before I could put the later strips on.
me pregunto que clase de pegamento usan? a base de que? si es amable en responderme,me gusto su vídeo, he probado con varios y no resulta con la resistencia q espero, gracias!
I would Like to retape the bellows to my accordion. What kind of tape would I order? from where? Also, would the reguler Elmer's school glue work for the bellows?
Is this a new set of bellows that you made or a repair ? I have to fix or make a new set of 15 inch bellows for an old Fontallini. If you have made sets from scratch, can you post videos ? Thanks.
Hola, muchas gracias por los videos compartidos. Existe la posibilidad de ponerme en contacto con usted por e-mail? Estoy tratando de conseguir información para construir un fuelle nuevo para mi acordeón. Me dedico a la construcción de intrumentos de cuerdas pulsadas. Saludos desde Argentina! Maximiliano.
Wikipedia tells me that school glue is the same stuff as PVA glue: Poly(vinyl acetate) (PVA, PVAc, poly(ethenyl ethanoate): commonly referred to as wood glue, white glue, carpenter's glue, *school* *glue* , Elmer's glue in the US, or PVA glue) is an aliphatic rubbery synthetic polymer.
Most gluing in a typical school environment involves paper and cardboard, so it's probably not such a bad choice. Some things in life have to be tried out before one can say whether it works or not. Let's not make it more complicated than it is :-)
I agree but I didn't know what "school glue" was. I had to use a search button. Maybe you refer to Elmer's school glue for instance. In this country on the other hand there is no such thing as 'school glue' or otherwise the glues commonly referred to as 'school' could be any formula - PVA or not based. That's why I had to go to Wikipedia and see what the actual contents of 'school glue' would be. Since it tells me its simply a PVA glue type I know what to look for. Otherwise if came to a local shop and asked them for 'school glue' they would look at me with round eyes.
I use Bindflex 1161, an excellent water based polyvinyl acetate book binding glue. It allows me to comfortably tape 20 folds in one go. In the case of more stubborn (stiffer)bellows tape it's a good idea to let a first very thin layer of glue dry completely before then re-gluing the tape and put it in place. Makes the job a lot easier and faster.
Where can I buy it? (Link please)
In most cases, I only tape my own (new) bellows for my own instruments. When retaping other bellows, the old tape has to be removed completely.(unless it is paper such as in Hohner Ericas, which is notoriously difficult to remove). Sometimes it's a good idea to use slightly wider tape (if ordering from Italy: 24mm instead of the usual 19mm).
Thank you for giving me an idea and show me the way to do this job.It will be the first time i'll try to do this job .I hope i can do easy as you do. :)
I would like to know that myself! It's very difficult to a) get the right type of cardboard and b) fold it in professional way that doesn't betray right away that you've done it yourself. Folded cardboard can be ordered in 1m lengths from companies such as Carini Dena in Italy. You can specify the number (usually 20 or 21) and depth (somewhere between ab. 25 and 35 mm) of the folds.
in advance thank you very much and it is called the tape nuegra put the bellows
Good this Asrm
Muchisimas gracias!! yo soy de rosario!! que bueno!!
nice video pleace make some more abhout accrodions i realy liked..thanks. tell-me you just glue on top of the older strap, or you take out the older?. thanks by
Joe Gancher Please forgive me for not answering earlier: In my facebook account (Olav Bergflodt) you'll find lots of stuff about bellows making + accordion construction in general.
I removed the old paper on my Erica bellows but, along the way there were a few nicks here and there, nothing to deep. Will applying the new tape be good enough to seal and possible leaks? None of the cuts went through the cardboard. Also,do you retape all side of the bellows in one day? Lastly, for future knowledge are there any other tricks to remove old tape? Water, heat etc...
Erica bellows are indeed notoriously difficult to de-tape. But I'm sure your new tape will not only cover most scars but also seal minor leaks should there be any.
All sides are taped in one go.
Fortunately, in most cases old tape is not too difficult to remove. I mostly use the wedge-side of my German type tuning tools (see video) to lift a bit of the old tape from the metal corner and then use my fingers to pull off the strip. Oftentimes the old strips have turned brittle, so you may have to repeat this on other parts of the fold. Don't use any sharp tools. Small knives may be useful if sufficiently blunted.
Water may do more damage than good, so this wouldn't be something I'd recommend.
Heat? Maybe, if animal hide glue has been used, but it has to be applied somehow, which may be a bit tricky.
Thanks a lot for sharing. I would like to know what kind of glue is good ? Seems like "Resistol 850 " , is it ? Thanks in advance for your kind attention.
As I already indicated below: BINDFLEX 1161 (PVA book binding glue)
Many thanks ! Appreciate it very much.
hello sir, i am really admired with your work, i am also building a diatonic accordion, but my bellows are too heavy to pull and push, so it doesn't make a good air fluxe. My question is what kind of leather do you use?
There may be some accordion repair books, but I couldn't tell you how useful they are. I consider accordion building/repairing/tuning a regular profession. If your goal is to do professional high quality work, you would need proper education (which may take several years). As to the type of glue, see my answer to Piscator Redux below.
La cinta es de origen Italiano. Lo vende la empresa Carini DeNa. En Italiano la llaman "dermoide".
muy bueno que pegamento uliza para pegar las cintas?
Bindflex 1161, pegamento PVA usado normalmente por encuadernadores.
That's a very clever method of doing this. What type of glue are you using, and how fast does it dry? At my speed, I could see the glue on the tape drying out before I could put the later strips on.
I would like to know how to fold the cardboard in siz zag shape to make the bellows. greeting
Carini Dena only has an Italian website, that I can see.
me pregunto que clase de pegamento usan? a base de que? si es amable en responderme,me gusto su vídeo, he probado con varios y no resulta con la resistencia q espero, gracias!
resistol.... de fuerza intermedia no tan fuerte.. es mas puede ser de el que usan los niños en la primaria
livinson de la ossa cabrales 1
me podria decir que tela lleva para recubrir el carton
Hola,quisiera saber que clase de cinta es la que estas usando.Muchas gracias. Ariel
I would Like to retape the bellows to my accordion. What kind of tape would I order? from where? Also, would the reguler Elmer's school glue work for the bellows?
voy a tratar de conseguirla en Argentina,pero se me hace complicado por que no hay muchas de las cosas importadas.Muchas gracias por tu respuesta!
Thank you.
que clase de glue es el adecuado para el tape alguien que me recomiende
The only thing I think I would do differently is try to align the stripes, not doing so makes it look a bit messy.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "aligning the stripes".
diatonix2 - The stripe design/pattern of the bellow tape.
If you follow my method, the "stripes" are automatically properly aligned.
as did the folds of cardboard? because I leave is costing even know any machine?? regards
hy wiht glue did you use for bellows? thanks did you now a book can teach acrodion repairs. thanks
Is this a new set of bellows that you made or a repair ? I have to fix or make a new set of 15 inch bellows for an old Fontallini. If you have made sets from scratch, can you post videos ? Thanks.
thanks so much what kind of glue do you recommend?
Is there any way to make diatonic buttons softer?
what's the glue for it?
Hola,
muchas gracias por los videos compartidos.
Existe la posibilidad de ponerme en contacto con usted por e-mail?
Estoy tratando de conseguir información para construir un fuelle nuevo para mi acordeón.
Me dedico a la construcción de intrumentos de cuerdas pulsadas.
Saludos desde Argentina!
Maximiliano.
Perdona, pero no entiendo tus preguntas...
quiero aprender a hacer fuelles por favor enseñeme
fuelleme esta
did you kow any book of repair acrodions, can you recomendo to buy? thanks
Vhi what kind of glue are you using.?
hola como podemos ponernos en contacto?
para qe me asesore en unas cosas aserca de un acordeon?
I need one bellow plz arrange i will pay
Deberias contactar a Federico Carlos Nussbaum, connacional tuyo, de Rosario, Santa Fe. Estoy bien seguro de que el te pueda ayudar.
what kinda taping is that? and where would i purchase it?..i wanna do a all white bellow
Ketiğiniz şeyin adı ne.n3teden alınır
se tiene q quitar el q ya tiene o sobre la otra sinta
Hay que quitarla.
O bantın ismi nedir
Hello! Can I use regular PVA (woodworking) glue for taping?
It's not something I would recommend, but then I've never tried it myself. Why not try the easily available and inexpensive school glue?
Why is school glue better? Is it actually less strong PVA formula? I guess by "school glue" you call PVA glues sold at stationery shops - right?
Wikipedia tells me that school glue is the same stuff as PVA glue: Poly(vinyl acetate) (PVA, PVAc, poly(ethenyl ethanoate): commonly referred to as wood glue, white glue, carpenter's glue, *school* *glue* , Elmer's glue in the US, or PVA glue) is an aliphatic rubbery synthetic polymer.
Most gluing in a typical school environment involves paper and cardboard, so it's probably not such a bad choice. Some things in life have to be tried out before one can say whether it works or not. Let's not make it more complicated than it is :-)
I agree but I didn't know what "school glue" was. I had to use a search button. Maybe you refer to Elmer's school glue for instance. In this country on the other hand there is no such thing as 'school glue' or otherwise the glues commonly referred to as 'school' could be any formula - PVA or not based. That's why I had to go to Wikipedia and see what the actual contents of 'school glue' would be. Since it tells me its simply a PVA glue type I know what to look for. Otherwise if came to a local shop and asked them for 'school glue' they would look at me with round eyes.
mi acordeón no retiene el aire q pueda ser
alomejor esta exitado
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