I hace no idea why people always keep goku ahead of gohan, gohan's potential and growth rate is far better than goku's. the only time gohan ever trained with goku seriously, he surpassed goku in 1 year.
I just want to say something here... I've started making What If's recently and it's actually really hard work. I upload weekly, and even then I'm having trouble making sure that I can get my vids out on time. Editing these videos takes hours on end, so it's nearly impossible unless this was a career.
The first ship took several months to reach namek(the namekian ship), the capsule ship took 6 days. Since they didn´t use the namekian ship, and had 3 saiyan pods and the namekian ship, make sense they could make the capsule ship sooner(recycle tech). But without use senzu beans, and no zenkai, goku would take more than 6 days to master 100 times gravity, ok, training partners help, because of sparrings, but still, they would arrive earlier than goku did on canon, BUT later than bulma did on canon, so more namekians would be dead. Interesting. If the ship was equal to capsule ship, they would have only 6 days to train, but would arrive in time, but goku would be weaker(Gohan and krillin stronger). If they took too much time, it could be too late, or not, freezar had no dragon radar, and without humans there, maybe Vegeta and freezar would be on a close match, with a few dragon balls missing(hard to find).
@@thelordofstrengthgoku7402 well..... no. Let me set up this scenario for you : In this timeline, Guru holds on for two minutes longer. Frieza forces dende to make him immortal. But since we haven't seen the namekian dragon balls grant immortality, imma say this. If the earth dragon balls were used, frieza would just be prevented from dying with a minor regeneration factor. If the namekian dragon balls were used, frieza would have a significant regeneration factor (close to the level of cell) but wouldn't regain stamina from the regeneration. if the super dragon balls were used you'd get zamasu's level of immortality. Frieza, throws dende to the side. "Good, now which one of you want to die first, seeing that I'm immortal and all." Due to frieza having immortality, he's taking things way slower. Vegeta and Frieza clash, with their fight being much longer than in canon. Gohan ends up joining vegeta to help. With Krillin being a distraction. This holds frieza off long enough for Piccolo to arrive. Frieza is a little tired, with his power level probably being at 450k. Although the others are way more exhausted and beaten down. Piccolo takes the stage and lays the SMACKDOWN on 1st form frieza for a good while. due to this, frieza's distracted so dende heals the z-fighters, giving the saiyans zenkais. Gohan would be at 500k, Vegeta will be at 600k. Frieza finally gets the chance to transform. going into his second form. Piccolo and Frieza have their rematch, with gohan helping along the way. Prompting Frieza to transform into his 3rd form. Also, due to frieza using a much slower pace, goku arrives when frieza transforms again. Goku vs Frieza begins, with a similar smackdown. However Goku is notified of frieza's immortality. During that, Vegeta comes up with the almost die plan, and since there's more time. I think gohan would participate too. Vegeta would be at 3 mil, with gohan also being at 3 mil (gohan's way smaller, so when that blast pierces through him, a lot more of his body is kinda vaporised, leading to a bigger zenkai) Frieza finally gets tired and transforms into his final form, stamina returning. Keep in mind Goku is trying to contain frieza, not kill him. Goku and Frieza's fight goes like canon, except that vegeta and dende are still alive, along with a stronger gohan. Which, seeing everyone around him get pummeled, gohan does contribute quite a bit to damage frieza. Vegeta just acts like support. Goku still comes up with the idea of the Spirit bomb, with the stalling going much smoother than in canon. Frieza has no idea that a giant attack is on top of him, since goku this time doesn't charge it next to the ocean due to a difference in the battle's location. Dende heals the z-fighters, giving the saiyans yet ANOTHER round of zenkais. Gohan goes to 5 million, Vegeta goes to 5 million, and Goku goes to 6 million. Frieza comes back, kills dende, and then kills krillin. The difference here is that.... There's two super saiyans this time. Goku and Gohan transform into Super Saiyan, with gohan immediately attacking Frieza. (gohan has less discipline than Goku, so he isn't able to control the form nearly as well. Though he's still able to determine friend from foe). Since Gohan's Power level is probably at 500 Million with the rage boost on top of ssj's multiplier... yeah Frieza is getting blended into a purple blood smoothie. Goku takes everyone back to his ship, seeing as how gohan has frieza occupied right now. Gohan's rage boost causes gohan to expend energy faster, so there's about 5 minutes of a smackdown on frieza, with frieza's reserves of power depleting with each blow (remember, frieza's stamina isn't included in immortality. He can heal wounds, not restore stamina instantly) Goku arrives, and gohan drops out of ssj. Goku vs. Frieza occurs, with no exploding planet. Goku however, has an idea to solve frieza's immortality problem... Goku powers up, with a battered but regenerating frieza being tackled into space itself. Frieza is probably at like 10% of his power due to the beatdown. Goku takes frieza into a sun. Trapping Frieza in an endless cycle of getting incinerated and regenerating. Goku also uses a kamehameha to propel Frieza the rest of the way into a namekian sun. Goku then dies in space. Soooo yeah, if frieza were to gain immortality, his overconfidence would lead him into getting trapped in a worse hell than canon. The changes are that 1. Gohan has SSJ early. 2. all of the saiyans are much stronger. 3. Goku never goes to yardrat. 4. King Cold and Frieza don't arrive on earth.
ohhh ok then i guest its a good what if but if goku did die in space i have a question would he train in king kai planet? or go to supreme kai planet cuz theres no way supreme kai didnt sense gokus power lvl while fighting and also if frieza was indeed sent straight to sun would he try and escape? or the hot sun will melt him?
Hey this was good but ive seen in some videos your powerscaling is a little off but still good as Gohan probaly wouldnt be able to train enough to get a power of 300. Also Nappas power is 4k not 7k. But keep up the great work
Thanks. Gohan's at 350 because it shows his Potential at a young age. Nappa suppressed is at 4k and at full power would be at least 7k. Read what goku says here 4:10
Awesome vid! I could see Goku dying in his current fight and the 1st wish brings back piccolo so earth balls bring back all killed by freiza and his men which brings Goku back for round 2. Then when it looks like he’ll die again then Gohan go super saiyan to stop freiza (after potential unlocked and probably after a healing or 2)
i feel goku should be a bit stronger then what he got in the main timeline since he had a head start from training with gohan early, but not too much. 95,000-100,000 max at full power seems fair for goku. as we know how training with gohan can be very benifical
I would think that King Kai would have warmed the group about fighting Frieza here. I mean Goku would still want to fight him, but not right away. Maybe when Goku, Krillin, and Gohan got his potential unlocked by Elder Guru would be when he would do it.
Golden Wrath as is form I made for vegeta in my what if beerus didn't wake up part 3. It's just like the Wrathful form but instead of having the power of Oozaru it's Golden Oozaru.
@@johntoyama9862 Ikari is the Oozaru form humanoid form. Ssj Ikari in Broly movie is the legendary ssj. If he were in golden oozaru, technically idk what fabio is talking about, golden ikari is indeed golden oozaru humanoid since ikari IS humanoid oozaru. adding ssj but saying its golden, not ssj is like saying the golden ape didnt have saiyan energy. it literally was. But he saying hes making ikari not part of it, the same way ssj4 is not ssj at all, and is technically what ikari became since ssj4 isnt canon they stole the device used for it and made it do something else
Piccolo wouldn't die because Gohan wouldn't be hesitant because he wasn't a crybaby as you said so he wouldn't have stood there when Napa used his mouth beam
Power scailing is ridiculous for piccolo and Gohan, piccolo should at least be at 3000 and Gohan should be at 2200. And with Nappa using the moonball his power would drop making him weaker after reverting
@@fabio5845 ooooooh I understand that now. I usually stick with the 5k version. I actually am subbed on a different account, potheads wrld, I love your content I was just confused
Dude why didn't have to low ball their power levels a gohan that was more willing to train shouldn't have ment every one should be weaker make it make sense
This was really good can't wait for the next part!
Thanks
Holy crap the first what if that takes nappa's real PL into account and I've watch many what ifs
This was awesome cant wait for the next part
Thanks
Since goku has 2 strong training partners i think that: goku: 140,000 gohan: 100,000 krillin: 90,000
Gohan and krillin are way weaker than goku. Goku wouldn't benefit as much.
I think goku can be at least 95,000
I hace no idea why people always keep goku ahead of gohan, gohan's potential and growth rate is far better than goku's.
the only time gohan ever trained with goku seriously, he surpassed goku in 1 year.
@@MrJokerSenpai then how about this gohan: 145k Goku: 140k and krillin:90k
@Pureabe but gohans potential is op so i woukd stick with mine but krillin will be at 40k
I wish you made what if’s every day ;(
I just want to say something here... I've started making What If's recently and it's actually really hard work. I upload weekly, and even then I'm having trouble making sure that I can get my vids out on time. Editing these videos takes hours on end, so it's nearly impossible unless this was a career.
If Goku gets his potential unlocked by Guru, he'd be at least 5-10x stronger than his canon counterpart.
Preach
nice fabio i have an idea since gohan a
has a power lvl of 75k lets say that goku and krillin get their potential unlucked by guru
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The first ship took several months to reach namek(the namekian ship), the capsule ship took 6 days. Since they didn´t use the namekian ship, and had 3 saiyan pods and the namekian ship, make sense they could make the capsule ship sooner(recycle tech). But without use senzu beans, and no zenkai, goku would take more than 6 days to master 100 times gravity, ok, training partners help, because of sparrings, but still, they would arrive earlier than goku did on canon, BUT later than bulma did on canon, so more namekians would be dead. Interesting. If the ship was equal to capsule ship, they would have only 6 days to train, but would arrive in time, but goku would be weaker(Gohan and krillin stronger). If they took too much time, it could be too late, or not, freezar had no dragon radar, and without humans there, maybe Vegeta and freezar would be on a close match, with a few dragon balls missing(hard to find).
2:47
"MY RIBS, I THINK YOU BROKE MY ribs....."
"STOP IGNORING ME"
Lol
What if Goku had a Stand
What if Frieza got Immortality
What If Gohan was born with Ultimate Instinct
bro if frieza get immortality goku and every planet and everyone is dead
@@thelordofstrengthgoku7402 well..... no. Let me set up this scenario for you :
In this timeline, Guru holds on for two minutes longer. Frieza forces dende to make him immortal. But since we haven't seen the namekian dragon balls grant immortality, imma say this.
If the earth dragon balls were used, frieza would just be prevented from dying with a minor regeneration factor. If the namekian dragon balls were used, frieza would have a significant regeneration factor (close to the level of cell) but wouldn't regain stamina from the regeneration. if the super dragon balls were used you'd get zamasu's level of immortality. Frieza, throws dende to the side. "Good, now which one of you want to die first, seeing that I'm immortal and all." Due to frieza having immortality, he's taking things way slower. Vegeta and Frieza clash, with their fight being much longer than in canon. Gohan ends up joining vegeta to help. With Krillin being a distraction. This holds frieza off long enough for Piccolo to arrive. Frieza is a little tired, with his power level probably being at 450k. Although the others are way more exhausted and beaten down. Piccolo takes the stage and lays the SMACKDOWN on 1st form frieza for a good while. due to this, frieza's distracted so dende heals the z-fighters, giving the saiyans zenkais. Gohan would be at 500k, Vegeta will be at 600k.
Frieza finally gets the chance to transform. going into his second form. Piccolo and Frieza have their rematch, with gohan helping along the way. Prompting Frieza to transform into his 3rd form. Also, due to frieza using a much slower pace, goku arrives when frieza transforms again. Goku vs Frieza begins, with a similar smackdown. However Goku is notified of frieza's immortality. During that, Vegeta comes up with the almost die plan, and since there's more time. I think gohan would participate too.
Vegeta would be at 3 mil, with gohan also being at 3 mil (gohan's way smaller, so when that blast pierces through him, a lot more of his body is kinda vaporised, leading to a bigger zenkai) Frieza finally gets tired and transforms into his final form, stamina returning. Keep in mind Goku is trying to contain frieza, not kill him. Goku and Frieza's fight goes like canon, except that vegeta and dende are still alive, along with a stronger gohan. Which, seeing everyone around him get pummeled, gohan does contribute quite a bit to damage frieza. Vegeta just acts like support. Goku still comes up with the idea of the Spirit bomb, with the stalling going much smoother than in canon. Frieza has no idea that a giant attack is on top of him, since goku this time doesn't charge it next to the ocean due to a difference in the battle's location. Dende heals the z-fighters, giving the saiyans yet ANOTHER round of zenkais. Gohan goes to 5 million, Vegeta goes to 5 million, and Goku goes to 6 million. Frieza comes back, kills dende, and then kills krillin. The difference here is that....
There's two super saiyans this time. Goku and Gohan transform into Super Saiyan, with gohan immediately attacking Frieza. (gohan has less discipline than Goku, so he isn't able to control the form nearly as well. Though he's still able to determine friend from foe). Since Gohan's Power level is probably at 500 Million with the rage boost on top of ssj's multiplier... yeah Frieza is getting blended into a purple blood smoothie. Goku takes everyone back to his ship, seeing as how gohan has frieza occupied right now. Gohan's rage boost causes gohan to expend energy faster, so there's about 5 minutes of a smackdown on frieza, with frieza's reserves of power depleting with each blow (remember, frieza's stamina isn't included in immortality. He can heal wounds, not restore stamina instantly) Goku arrives, and gohan drops out of ssj. Goku vs. Frieza occurs, with no exploding planet. Goku however, has an idea to solve frieza's immortality problem... Goku powers up, with a battered but regenerating frieza being tackled into space itself. Frieza is probably at like 10% of his power due to the beatdown. Goku takes frieza into a sun. Trapping Frieza in an endless cycle of getting incinerated and regenerating. Goku also uses a kamehameha to propel Frieza the rest of the way into a namekian sun. Goku then dies in space.
Soooo yeah, if frieza were to gain immortality, his overconfidence would lead him into getting trapped in a worse hell than canon. The changes are that 1. Gohan has SSJ early. 2. all of the saiyans are much stronger.
3. Goku never goes to yardrat. 4. King Cold and Frieza don't arrive on earth.
ohhh ok then i guest its a good what if but if goku did die in space i have a question would he train in king kai planet? or go to supreme kai planet cuz theres no way supreme kai didnt sense gokus power lvl while fighting and also if frieza was indeed sent straight to sun would he try and escape? or the hot sun will melt him?
All of those r stupid
@@BagofBeans1 why did you make a whole what if to debunked suggestion 😂😂
Hey this was good but ive seen in some videos your powerscaling is a little off but still good as Gohan probaly wouldnt be able to train enough to get a power of 300. Also Nappas power is 4k not 7k. But keep up the great work
Thanks. Gohan's at 350 because it shows his Potential at a young age. Nappa suppressed is at 4k and at full power would be at least 7k. Read what goku says here 4:10
@@fabio5845 Yes but nappas official power by Daizenshuu which is the official powers states 4k is his max. But its still good
Awesome vid! I could see Goku dying in his current fight and the 1st wish brings back piccolo so earth balls bring back all killed by freiza and his men which brings Goku back for round 2. Then when it looks like he’ll die again then Gohan go super saiyan to stop freiza (after potential unlocked and probably after a healing or 2)
Thanks and nice predictions
8:32 thats literally the power level Goku had in cannon. His power was only 180,000 after using kaioken.
You go Fabio
i feel goku should be a bit stronger then what he got in the main timeline since he had a head start from training with gohan early, but not too much. 95,000-100,000 max at full power seems fair for goku. as we know how training with gohan can be very benifical
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Ah... Goku being Goku
This is better than original
I would think that King Kai would have warmed the group about fighting Frieza here. I mean Goku would still want to fight him, but not right away. Maybe when Goku, Krillin, and Gohan got his potential unlocked by Elder Guru would be when he would do it.
Well goku can increase his power level to 1,800,000 and he only sensed first form frieza
@@fabio5845 Ah good point.
Chi-Chi is such a hypocrite.
Yep
Yep
now Gohan doesn't hate fighting
Fabio, please explain to me about the golden wrathful and its similarities to golden great ape?
Golden Wrath as is form I made for vegeta in my what if beerus didn't wake up part 3. It's just like the Wrathful form but instead of having the power of Oozaru it's Golden Oozaru.
@@fabio5845 so, its ssj + wrathful/ikari = golden wrathful
@@johntoyama9862 no. It's Golden Oozaru in humanoid form
@@johntoyama9862 Ikari is the Oozaru form humanoid form. Ssj Ikari in Broly movie is the legendary ssj. If he were in golden oozaru, technically idk what fabio is talking about, golden ikari is indeed golden oozaru humanoid since ikari IS humanoid oozaru. adding ssj but saying its golden, not ssj is like saying the golden ape didnt have saiyan energy. it literally was. But he saying hes making ikari not part of it, the same way ssj4 is not ssj at all, and is technically what ikari became since ssj4 isnt canon they stole the device used for it and made it do something else
awesome
Thanks
I know this might be a little overkill but what if super happened after dragon ball AF, it’s never been done before I would really like to see it.
Then you do it, clearly you have ideas
Here a What If for you: WHAT IF Zarbon survived?
@Shervin Playz Honestly lmao
What ifsaiyans never came to earth next part
I feel like gohan would wear gokus gi since he was his first teacher
Piccolo wouldn't die because Gohan wouldn't be hesitant because he wasn't a crybaby as you said so he wouldn't have stood there when Napa used his mouth beam
Gohan's still a child and hasn't been in any major battles so of course he'd stand frozen.
Did you upload this at 1: 00
No
@@fabio5845 1:01?
Keep this going and keep gohan training
you should talk with more excitement and more clearly and a bit louder but maybe that is a mike problem and work on your scripts more
Wait is piccolo alive? Also I think that nappa full power is at 5000
Piccolo died and nappa would be at least 7,000 watch this 4:09
@@fabio5845 so why was he 50k as Osaru
@@PotatoPrem cause the power ball drains energy I said that
Nappa attack’s the group
Piccolo dies
Gohan rages out
And goku arrives.
Yes yes
Power scailing is ridiculous for piccolo and Gohan, piccolo should at least be at 3000 and Gohan should be at 2200. And with Nappa using the moonball his power would drop making him weaker after reverting
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What happened to Gohan’s tail?
It didn't grow back
what if goku decided to never have kids? feel like this one would change the story a lot 0.0
Everyone would be dead
But goku can sence pl so goku wouldn't attack frieza
Goku can raise his power level to 900,000 and he sensed first form frieza
@@fabio5845 ok thx for the correct I was a bit confused
Only 700?? He got a rage power up in the 1000 in canon
Gohan only saw goku get kicked
@@fabio5845 in canon gohan heard goku crying and that was a enough for him to break out of the space pod
Goku screaming in pain and just getting knocked down is two different things.
@@fabio5845 whatever
yo why is nappas power level at 7k it should be 4k
4500, not 4000. still not 7k lol
i think it was done just to make the zenkai larger for the main characters
What if goku was the only super saiyan
I wished this happened in canon
I think Gohan is stronger than Goku from the beginning but just because he doesn't trained so he becomes weaker and weaker.
NAPPA IS ONLY 4,000 AT MAXIMUM BASE
Suppressed nappa is 4,000 he's at least 7,000 at full power
Ummm nappa was not over 5 thousand
I showed the manga panel did you read it 4:10
It's not showing me 7k
@@vondagortman243 goku said that the fight could last forever which means nappa's at least 7k
@@fabio5845 ooooooh I understand that now. I usually stick with the 5k version. I actually am subbed on a different account, potheads wrld, I love your content I was just confused
Krillin is weaker than a 5 year old 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Krillin owned count+1
@@AhmedHussain-ju6xd 20000+*
Dude why didn't have to low ball their power levels a gohan that was more willing to train shouldn't have ment every one should be weaker make it make sense
No nappa's power level is 4000
nappas power level is 4000
Nappa: 4000
Suppressed nappa: 4,000
@@fabio5845 it depends when I searched up what is nappa’s power level and it said 4000 and 7000
It's only 4,000 when suppressed like Vegeta's 16,000 when suppressed. When nappa fought goku he used his full power which would be at least 7,000
@@fabio5845 kk but btw do you think frieza’s full power is 200,000,000 or 120,000,000
@@dbaaron1776 120,000,000
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