if you use the same logic of mo's argument of real madrid valuing yoro at18m pounds or 20m euros then they probably told mbappe they value him at 0 whatever currency bc they didnt pay for him so...
@@seanhorgan5380 you just paid way over the odds for an unproven player to go with you’re other mid signing zirkzee and you lot think you are back 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂get in the bin you have been the laughing stock for years and that’s not changing so strap in little man 💋
@@seanhorgan5380 2003? So we won the prem unbeaten asleep in 04 😂😂😂😂😂😂typical United fan knows zerooooooooo about ball go get the Norwich scarf on and have a cry that it ain’t 1999 no more
@GodssonQB It was the 03/04 season but whatever. I might remind you since then United won 5 PL and a UCL so stay in your lane mate. Please don't compare United and Arsenal
It’s funny how Madrid paid 47m for Endrick at 16/17 and 50m for Vini at 16, 45m for Rodrygo at 17/18 and it was fine but now it’s a problem for United. Madrid valuation of the player is false because they tried to bully Lille as they knew the player wanted them and thought they would get their way by getting him for free or on the cheap. If Yoro had 4 years on his contract, I can guarantee you that Madrid would’ve offered more because they wouldn’t have the upper hand.
@@DC94359 Brother, keep your negativity to yourself 😂😂 talking about Antony 😂 the guy clearly said that Madrid have spent big on numerous teenagers in the past. Doesn't matter what position they play in. Madrid wanted him, so they probably see "insane potential" in him too. So why you mad?? 😂😂
@@DC94359 how much did Juve pay for De Ligt? Attackers or not, they were unproven, under 18, and playing in a league that isn’t even ranked top 7. They also paid 50m for militao after 1 year in Porto at age 21. You’re just making excuses because if Madrid paid £42m for an 18 year old cb, you won’t say anything
@@Onlyy_david not the same thing Militao was voted multiple times as the best defender in portugal and Madrid offered 20 mil cuz he had one year left on his contract and man u doubled it, unless this kid is gana be the best defender in europe in the next 5 years that’s a lot it’s a gamble
Rival fans salty. They nervous that United is moving like a proper club again. Yoro is a great deal. 50m for a 18 year old is great value for that talent
If this wasn't a Terry show, I won't spend a second listening to this Mo. As long as the news is about Man United, he'll shamelessly find a negative spin to it.
Sky Sports reporting today that the "Better than Maldini" Riccardo Calafiori's move from Bologna to Arsenal could be in doubt due to the Gunners struggling to move Artetas disaster signing Jakub Kiwior Who saw that coming?? Trust the Process xx
Real Madrid did not call Yoro the Mbappe of defenders. Fabrizio whose always on social media said it. Saliba was called by Arsenal fans the Mbappe of defenders the last 4/5 years. Thats because Mbappe father coached Saliba. Saliba use to go school with Mbappe & same academy. Saliba use to play football with the older kids & Mbappe despite being 2 years younger, with Saliba at that age being tall & physically developed Saliba was a striker at youth level & was trained by Mbappe father. But gradually moved back to midfield then defense. Hence the Mbappe of defenders. Nobody used that term till an 18 year old Saliba was called that. That came from his close connections with Mbappe. Lenny Yoro being called that is very random. Cause he for sure is not seen as that tier by Real Madrid. Real Madrid weren't budging from there £18m valuation. Real Madrid often move heaven & earth to secure the premium talent.
Arsenal fans did NOT call Saliba the mbappe of CBs - that was being said about him BEFORE HE WAS EVEN LINKED TO ARSENAL! Before even of us had even heard of him.
crazy takes here, madrid low ball lille, and now we use madrids lowball as the valuation? 😂 u can't make this shit up the player even with 1 year on contract is worth 40-50m euros, he literally 18 a prodigy who was in the ligue one team of the year lol utd paid 50m + 12m possible addons.. at most u can say it's a 10-15m euro over pay, and even then, it's not clear
I can understand Mo saying that United overpaid for Yoro - 50m for an 18 year is a lot of money for someone based purely on potential but his reasoning that we overpaid because Madrid weren't willing to pay it is a terrible argument. Madrid do not solely dictate the price of a player. The transfer market works the way United operated - willing to pay a fee that the selling club deemed appropriate.
@palynch but his market value is 50m euros lol Ivan toney has a market value with 1 yr on contract of 50m euros. if Chelsea offer 25m and arsenal offer 50m... arsenal aren't overpaying, Chelsea are low balling
@vkdeen7570 totally agree, my point would be that I could understand Mo saying we overpaid if he felt no 18 year is worth 50m but that's definitely not the case.
Terry, you're gonna believe whatever BS u wanna believe...if he wanted to play for Man United, why did he say he wants to go Madrid???? Madrid wasn't gonna pay the fee your club paid for a 18yrs old ..... You're the one looking silly. Remember you were waffling about your manager, then all of a sudden, oh, i'm gonna back the process 😂😂😂😂 because of the board.... stop it get some help ....
if want to sleep with Shakira... I also wanna sleep with Rihanna. Just because I prefer Shakira doesn't mean I wouldn't be more than happy to bang Rihanna if the chance came. if I wanted Shakira first but she didn't seem that interested but Rihanna went all out for me... I'd probably take Rihanna up rather than waiting and hoping for Shakira the logic is so simple I cannot believe ppl are making themsleves look so silly. he could literally wait 6 months and sign for madrid on a free.... clearly he really like the utd project
I'm not even a United fan but why, just because Madrid don't value him as highly mean that anything above that is overpaying? What if United value him more highly? A clubs valuation of a player is based on their need for them. Madrid don't need him as much as united. It's not rocket science. As much as I'd love to shit on United, Mo's logic makes absolutely zero sense. But I'm guessing he's trolling because he's not that stupid
If Madrid only valued him at 20-25 mil then by that logic every club over pays for every signing unless they sign for free ffs it was their initial bid clubs don’t go in like that mo come on mate
MO SALTY as F. As if he doesn’t know that Real Madrid low ball so that they can buy players on the cheap. Madrid wanted to buy Yoro on the cheap or on free. They never thought anyone could tempt him. MO got his pants pulled down after his comment last week that we couldn’t sign him. Hosam is quite reasonable for a LFC fan but he thinks £130m for TAA in last year of contract is fine. I will wait when RM send a 40m offer for TAA. Hosam is salty as LFC and his Michael Edwards got caught flat footed with Yoro even though he was their top target
How do people really listen to this Mo? He's just a very bitter person. Guy, please get a life and find some happiness in your life. This is becoming embarrassing.
Not United fan, but it's normal United overspend against Real Madrid. Plus I guess, Madrid didn't value Yoro for money United offered or even asked Yoro to run down his contract. Yoro probablly didn't want to start uncomfortable conflicts as still being a youngster with Lille, so accepted United offer. But that's fine, because Real is biggest most succesfull club and United way is a way to compete with Real Madrid pull.
@@flaco101 that's why it's good transfer. Yoro could become Arsenal's Saliba or Ben White. Arsenal were bantered to overspend, but to this day, these teansfers look one of the best.
Davies was valued at 25m by madrid doesnt mean hes worth that hes worth way more. Madrid are in the most unique position being so successful that they can dictate valuation.
@@Arty2senis "Yoro could become Arsenal's Saliba or Ben White" as in win fcuk all, just like Fabio "He's better than KDB" Vieria and Sambi "The New Patrick Vieria: Lokonga and every other Arteta signing haven't
lol at no point did i think Moh was saying Chelsea is finished i took it to mean chelsea has lost some of its pull this season because of previous seasons failures
Lets not act like the club had no influence in his decision. Its the same reason why Mudryk went to chelsea. When a big slub offer a small club such a large fee for a player, the player will be forced out. There is no way Yoro's club was letting him walk away on a free next year. Only players like Mbappe can do that. Yoro is an unproven 18 year old.
@samwize28 Well done for eliminating any nuance. If they didn't have Rudiger and Alaba, they, based on how they move, in all honesty would have bid more. This isn't Barca with Dembele amd Coutinho
@@vkdeen7570 Exactly. Take Toney. Brentford want far more than clubs think he's worth, because for Brentford he's a major factor between staying in the Prem and being relegated. Staying in the Prem is worth over 100m in revenue etc.
@samwize28 Exactly. Their argument is "But but but Real are the best club therefore their valuations matter the most" but when Barca were the best club did we accept their transfer valuations as rhe "Benchmark?." It's context; If January comes round and I'm Everton and in the bottom 3 and Braithwaite and Tarkowski are injured for the rest of the season, and I need a CB, this affects bidding valuations
@Taporeee toney transfer market value is 50m euros if Chelsea go and offer 25m and arsenal offer 50m u don't say arsenal over paid. u say Chelsea low balled. but because everyone is so salty against utd they're trying all sorts of bs
Madrid just wanted to do their usual trick of leaving it till the last minute and squeezing the selling club relying on the players desperation to join well this kid obvs didn't feel valued enough by Madrid to wait
If Terry wasn't a Man Utd fan and looked at it objectively he'd see that Man Utd wildly overpaid. The previous record for an 18yr old defender was Bastoni at €31m and Saliba at €30m, they both had 12 months left on their contracts, and they needed 2-3 years on loan until they were ready because CB is not a position for teenagers at the very top level (title challenging teams). United doubled it. Madrid didn't cap their offer at €25m because they didn't value Yoro, they just understood what his value is because Yoro would have been loaned out and is not a sure thing. Yoro MUST be successful, there's no middle ground for Yoro because Man Utd have paid the kind of money teams pay for ready made defenders.
Well said Mo if Chelsea paid 52m for this guy everyone would be on them for overpaying. However the new all singing and dancing Utd can do no wrong with their excellent recruitment of staff and players except all the ones they've laid off heartlessly.
Ornstein has said up to 70 million tier one Terry talking bollocks as usual This was supposed to be we will walk away United 70 million for an unproven 18 year old. The most embarrassing thing is Real didn’t think he’s worth the money and this guy had a year left on his contract much the same as the stupid 60 million they paid for Mount 😂
Agree with Mo on Merino. It's not 50M signing where you dwell for 10M. On the other hand Real wanted 50M for Odegaard, but Arsenal waited for a while and negotiated price to 35M and that was perfect bussiness.
Real Madrid and Carlo Ancelotti were so desperate to get rid of Missing 'Won Nothing' Gostagaard that they offered him to clubs for free. But Edu the clown waited for a while and negotiated the price to 35M which was typical Arsenal business. On the other hand, Pep sold 2 of his injury prone rejects Zimchenko and Jesus for 80m to the bottlers then 2 days later signed Akaanji and Haaland for 63m That's good business because that's what big UCL winning clubs with proper managers do
Some fans are off their heads. For a player to be a good signing they have to, he 23, have prem experience, only want to join you and be 10 mill under what another club was offering 😂 so nobody would sign anyone apart from Madrid 😂😂
Every player Newcastle have is with them because Madrid didn’t value them and Newcastle offered more same with every other club below that of the top 4 in England 😂
Madrid Low-Balled. And United Paid the Value. The Bitterness of Moh is Hilarious. He is Absolutely not wanting to Listen or even Understand the Price payment. How can Madrid's Valuation now be the Valuation of All Players😂😂😂👇👇
Whn arteta was rebuilding,he could use 100m to bring 4 to 5 players,u dont rebuild with 50m players,how many will u buy,dats not rebuilding,50m brings ready made players bse rebuilding is taking risk in ua hand
Trent is incredibly inconsistent. Defensively he's average. At midfield he is unproven. Yes he can send outrageous longballs onto the feet of forwards.. but £120 million? Let Madrid have him.
Terry, get this in your head ....... he didn't PICK United because Real Madrid and United didn't put up the same fee, and then he went i want to go United ....Real Madrid wasn't paying the same amount of money as your club did .... stop waffling about he pick Man United over Real 😂😂😂😂
Its fine lads u can be salty we luv to see it. Mo sounds like a casual these days. Btw alphonso davies was valued at 25mil by madrid but does that mean hes worth that?? If another team went and spent more than 25 is that now an L? Weird take bro.
Husam, im a chelsea fan and im with u on some of the points u make about chelsea, but brother… 1% the maresca joint clicks next season and they sit on top of liverpool, u will have to abandon your channel and go offline
Market value Website is a load of nonsense it doesn't mean he will go for anything nest that price. So many other things come into the price of a player. Market value is nonsense 😂
Very entertaining stream Terry,you couldn't pick a better pair of clowns to have joined you,seriously,the two old blokes from the Muppets who sat in the balcony could do a better job.
Do people realize what generational actually means? It means once in a generation. How can there be multiple generational talents in one generation? hahah. Learn the definitions of words before using them.
Terry i know u r gassed for this signing but if yoro is that great worth 50 mil and 150k/week why he wasn’t participating in the euros next to saliba for example?😂 madrid made sense only because they were not that stupid to overpay for an 18 year old who has 1 year left of his contract😂😂😂
@@vkdeen7570 7-9 million a year with bonuses i calculated approximately with 8 million cause obviously not every bonus will get achived. I’ll let you do the math. Still overpaid due to the fact the guy had 1 yalear of his contract.😀
@martonjanos835 if he hits the addon and bonuses it mean he's doing things like winning the ballon dor... which means he's obviously worth it his independent market value with 1 year on contract is 50m euros (same as Ivan toney btw) utd paid 50m euros... plus POTENTIAL addons upto 12m euros his base wage his 112k per week that's less than lindelofs base wage lol at worst u can try to argue it's a little over market value ... that's nothing to beat madrid to best cb prospect in the world
@martonjanos835 we can even break it down for u £42m fee let's just say he hits all clauses (that includes a ballon dor) + 10m addons. wage approx 6m per year x 6 (6 year contact) that's a total outlay over 6 seasons of 88m... less than £15m per season. ....
@@vkdeen7570 in 2 years his contract will be renegotiated so this point is clueless😀 and utd have to double his wage minimum to keep him or madrid will get him. And now you are going even down with his wage. Terry who seems reliable said his wage will be min 7 million a year 9 with bonuses,why r u talking about 6 mil,mate? Stop waffling and accept the fact your team overpaid rn. It might turn out to be a great signing or a total flop,we have seen both,there is no evidance rn he will flop I didn’t say that but it seems a risky investment considering lille’s latest sold players didn’t turn too good.
Mo Real wanted Yoro on their terms ONLY. Just as they did with Mbappe Real does not want to pay clubs for players because it will cause issues with FFP. If it ain't free they ain't interested Terry, Kambwala turned down a new contract so the club did the best thing by not allowing him to go on a free
Terry can be very childish at times and does not know how to take criticism on the chin like a man. No wonder his fighting career went down quickly. Very weak chin for a man who likes to give out jabs. Otherwise still a terrace fan forever. Don't be upset I criticized you T. We all have our days, best fan show on yt, big ups bruv
Moh’s a donut 🍩 he only had a year left on his contract , Ben White was 50. , John stones 50 , etc if we had bought Branthwait for 70-80 they would be laughing at us … bitter punaaani’s
Real Madrid valued him at 25 not for his value but for his one year left on his current contract. If they knew that he will say yes to Man United, they would have played this differently 💯🤷. Leny Yoro according to value for skill set is an absolute beast. And Liverpool would have paid more if they suspected that he would pick United
When had that Yoro said no to Liverpool? This is news to me, we were never gonna get him as an 18 year old when he’ll be on over 100,000 a week wherever he goes, he’s good but I’m not losing any sleep over it, absolutely not an L for us in my opinion.
@@yassinhani1600 that doesn’t answer my question, did he legit say no to us or have we pulled out cos his wages are gonna be around 140k a week for an 18 year old? fucking Luis Diaz is on like 80k a week for us, we’re not putting an 18 year old on 140k a week straight away.
@@MrParabellum21LFC inquired and he said he wants to go to Madrid, so Liverpool pulled out. This is widely recorded. United went about it through the club first so he was swayed by the intent.
@@FountainOfYoot oh yeah I know that, I’m just wondering how he’s meant to have rejected Liverpool in favour of United, only reason he’s going to United now is 1) wages, they’re gonna pay more it’s United, 2) he’ll get into Uniteds team, he’s not getting in over vvd and Konate, who’s he competing with at United, Lindelof?
@@MrParabellum21 he didnt officially reject you because you didnt put in a bid or started talks with him but he technically did, you enquired about him and his mind was already set on Madrid
Great stream lads, nice to see some rare balanced opinions on Chelsea, we all know Hussam is gunna hate just like Henry and Potts do on other streams, but well done Mo and Terry for providing some balanced arguments
Moh usually talks sense but I don't agree with his logic here. Madrid tried to low-ball Lille because they knew had a year on his contract & Madrid was his dream move, it was bullyboy tactics, but it backfired. I don't care about this "he's only worth 25M to Madrid", Madrid do their scouting homework on players, they don't go in for bums & they don't often miss. Them showing serious interest in Yoro is a good endorsement of the player's potential for me. If this kid fulfills his potential, the price tag will look like a steal & United will get years out of him before selling him on for a big profit. 🤷♂️
Mo actually makes sense. Until this news of Man Utd chasing Leny Yoro came up no one knew anything about him. Even now, most of those who are backing him know nothing about him. Can anyone say for certain why is he worth the 53 million plus addons instead of the 25 million that RM offer? You spoke about his potential. What is his potential and whats the ceiling for the kid?
Player's potential is also dependent on what environment they will find themselves in. Yoro going to Utd at the moment with the pressure he might be a regular starter in the hardest league is not the same as going to the best club in the world with quality in every position and you are guaranteed success every year. Look what they are doing with Guler, how they worked Tchoumeni, Camavinga, Valverded, Vini and so on into the team. He might work out for Utd or Utd can be a stepping stone to move to Madrid in 4-5 years, same as Ronaldo.
@Gunner_MAK Why is it important we as fans know about him? He's highly rated by the people who's job it is to recognise a footballer's talent levels, that's more important than random fans especially rivals who are salty about the signing.
@@Gunner_MAKlmao no. We heard about Yoro when MADRID were chasing him. United just jumped into a wave that was happening for months. Also having watched United for 3 decades, most fans had no idea about most of the players the club bought. Not vidic, not evra, not about Ronaldo etc etc. fans of Liverpool didn’t think about Salah. This happens very regularly. And we SHOULDNT know more about the football fraternity more than our club. That means the people employed by the club are idiots.
@@NoirFan84 keeping your point into consideration, then tell me how is the new regime any different from the old one? The old one was being fleeced. And now the new one is.. speaking of rival fansbeing salty, what exactly should they be salty bout? Since you yourself have no clue what you are landing, hiw do you expect rivals to know and be salty about?
I like Mo but disagree with his logic. basing his point solely from madrid not wanting to pay more than 20m for yoro. Madrid paid 35m rising to 60m for a 16 yo brazilian with no european experience, just off potential alone. they once paid 60m for jovic who scored like 2 goals in 2 seasons for them. just because they are the biggest club itw doesnt mean their word is gospel or that they get every decision right
@@tinkerman4326 you meant Yorro and Endrick's deal is same? Maybe just that with madrid they have seen it succeed so they wouldn't think it's much of a risk, different from Yorro deal but in today's tranfer market you are paying for the potential rather than proven track record.
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He’s not salty at all 😂😂😂
Indeed😂😂😂
10/07/2024: Mo -"Why are United chasing Leny Yoro? He's waiting for Madrid".
17/07/2024: Mo - "They have overpaid for Leny Yoro".
🤷🏽♂️
& he was forced too 😂😂😂
if you use the same logic of mo's argument of real madrid valuing yoro at18m pounds or 20m euros then they probably told mbappe they value him at 0 whatever currency bc they didnt pay for him so...
What are Ineos cooking. The sleeping giant is awakening 🔴⚪️⚫️
lol
@GodssonQB Arsenal fan saying lol. Your club is still asleep since 2003
@@seanhorgan5380 you just paid way over the odds for an unproven player to go with you’re other mid signing zirkzee and you lot think you are back 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂get in the bin you have been the laughing stock for years and that’s not changing so strap in little man 💋
@@seanhorgan5380 2003? So we won the prem unbeaten asleep in 04 😂😂😂😂😂😂typical United fan knows zerooooooooo about ball go get the Norwich scarf on and have a cry that it ain’t 1999 no more
@GodssonQB It was the 03/04 season but whatever. I might remind you since then United won 5 PL and a UCL so stay in your lane mate. Please don't compare United and Arsenal
It’s funny how Madrid paid 47m for Endrick at 16/17 and 50m for Vini at 16, 45m for Rodrygo at 17/18 and it was fine but now it’s a problem for United. Madrid valuation of the player is false because they tried to bully Lille as they knew the player wanted them and thought they would get their way by getting him for free or on the cheap. If Yoro had 4 years on his contract, I can guarantee you that Madrid would’ve offered more because they wouldn’t have the upper hand.
In the words of Madrid
Yoro is the Mbappe of defenders but 20M is now his evaluation 🤣. Fans are rattled United are waking up
@@DC94359 Brother, keep your negativity to yourself 😂😂 talking about Antony 😂 the guy clearly said that Madrid have spent big on numerous teenagers in the past. Doesn't matter what position they play in. Madrid wanted him, so they probably see "insane potential" in him too. So why you mad?? 😂😂
@@DC94359 how much did Juve pay for De Ligt? Attackers or not, they were unproven, under 18, and playing in a league that isn’t even ranked top 7. They also paid 50m for militao after 1 year in Porto at age 21. You’re just making excuses because if Madrid paid £42m for an 18 year old cb, you won’t say anything
@DC94359 always paid over the odds 😂 that's how you can tell your level of saltiness
@@Onlyy_david not the same thing Militao was voted multiple times as the best defender in portugal and Madrid offered 20 mil cuz he had one year left on his contract and man u doubled it, unless this kid is gana be the best defender in europe in the next 5 years that’s a lot it’s a gamble
If there's a multiverse TTA might be the best right back in a world but it ain't this one 🤯
Mo is big salty. Real Madrid thought thought they’d be cute and hope to get him on the cheap as a free like they did with mbappe and camavinga.
They so did. Perez telegraphed it weeks ago. He hoped that Lille would be desperate and take a cut rate from him. Enjoy the copium.
Rival fans salty. They nervous that United is moving like a proper club again. Yoro is a great deal. 50m for a 18 year old is great value for that talent
If this wasn't a Terry show, I won't spend a second listening to this Mo. As long as the news is about Man United, he'll shamelessly find a negative spin to it.
@@aijayanum6241 he's a self professed utd hater
He don't even support a prem team 😂😂😂😂😂
He’s jealous
@@danyahlaarayah7016who does he support cuz I be confused abt him
Mo last week. Why the hell are United are in for Yoro. He won't join he only wants Real 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oooohh poor Mo, he was too premature with it😢😂😂😂
Muppet
Mo is a fraud
Mo has zero ball knowledge
His head is so far up his own ass that he can't even see 💯
Now that Savva has returned to UA-cam is there any chance we can get him back on here. I really enjoyed his and Terry's debates.
West Ham just signed Kilman for 40M. Mo is so bitter. Terry why in the hell do you give this guy a platform
A proven premier league player. Vs a young prospect from the farmers league - hmmmm good comparison 😂
@geehumphreys7376 So wait wait wait. Your saying Kilman is a better signing than Yoro 🤣
Sky Sports reporting today that the "Better than Maldini" Riccardo Calafiori's move from Bologna to Arsenal could be in doubt due to the Gunners struggling to move Artetas disaster signing Jakub Kiwior
Who saw that coming??
Trust the Process xx
MO acting like he watched most of the signings his Uber eats club makes
Real Madrid did not call Yoro the Mbappe of defenders.
Fabrizio whose always on social media said it.
Saliba was called by Arsenal fans the Mbappe of defenders the last 4/5 years.
Thats because Mbappe father coached Saliba.
Saliba use to go school with Mbappe & same academy.
Saliba use to play football with the older kids & Mbappe despite being 2 years younger, with Saliba at that age being tall & physically developed
Saliba was a striker at youth level & was trained by Mbappe father. But gradually moved back to midfield then defense.
Hence the Mbappe of defenders.
Nobody used that term till an 18 year old Saliba was called that.
That came from his close connections with Mbappe.
Lenny Yoro being called that is very random.
Cause he for sure is not seen as that tier by Real Madrid.
Real Madrid weren't budging from there £18m valuation.
Real Madrid often move heaven & earth to secure the premium talent.
Read the scouting reports from clubs and wake up
Arsenal fans did NOT call Saliba the mbappe of CBs - that was being said about him BEFORE HE WAS EVEN LINKED TO ARSENAL! Before even of us had even heard of him.
crazy takes here, madrid low ball lille, and now we use madrids lowball as the valuation? 😂 u can't make this shit up
the player even with 1 year on contract is worth 40-50m euros, he literally 18 a prodigy who was in the ligue one team of the year lol
utd paid 50m + 12m possible addons.. at most u can say it's a 10-15m euro over pay, and even then, it's not clear
I can understand Mo saying that United overpaid for Yoro - 50m for an 18 year is a lot of money for someone based purely on potential but his reasoning that we overpaid because Madrid weren't willing to pay it is a terrible argument. Madrid do not solely dictate the price of a player. The transfer market works the way United operated - willing to pay a fee that the selling club deemed appropriate.
@palynch but his market value is 50m euros lol Ivan toney has a market value with 1 yr on contract of 50m euros. if Chelsea offer 25m and arsenal offer 50m... arsenal aren't overpaying, Chelsea are low balling
@vkdeen7570 totally agree, my point would be that I could understand Mo saying we overpaid if he felt no 18 year is worth 50m but that's definitely not the case.
Terry, you're gonna believe whatever BS u wanna believe...if he wanted to play for Man United, why did he say he wants to go Madrid???? Madrid wasn't gonna pay the fee your club paid for a 18yrs old ..... You're the one looking silly. Remember you were waffling about your manager, then all of a sudden, oh, i'm gonna back the process 😂😂😂😂 because of the board.... stop it get some help ....
if want to sleep with Shakira... I also wanna sleep with Rihanna. Just because I prefer Shakira doesn't mean I wouldn't be more than happy to bang Rihanna if the chance came. if I wanted Shakira first but she didn't seem that interested but Rihanna went all out for me... I'd probably take Rihanna up rather than waiting and hoping for Shakira
the logic is so simple I cannot believe ppl are making themsleves look so silly. he could literally wait 6 months and sign for madrid on a free.... clearly he really like the utd project
I'm not even a United fan but why, just because Madrid don't value him as highly mean that anything above that is overpaying? What if United value him more highly? A clubs valuation of a player is based on their need for them. Madrid don't need him as much as united. It's not rocket science. As much as I'd love to shit on United, Mo's logic makes absolutely zero sense. But I'm guessing he's trolling because he's not that stupid
If Madrid only valued him at 20-25 mil then by that logic every club over pays for every signing unless they sign for free ffs it was their initial bid clubs don’t go in like that mo come on mate
MO SALTY as F.
As if he doesn’t know that Real Madrid low ball so that they can buy players on the cheap. Madrid wanted to buy Yoro on the cheap or on free. They never thought anyone could tempt him. MO got his pants pulled down after his comment last week that we couldn’t sign him.
Hosam is quite reasonable for a LFC fan but he thinks £130m for TAA in last year of contract is fine. I will wait when RM send a 40m offer for TAA. Hosam is salty as LFC and his Michael Edwards got caught flat footed with Yoro even though he was their top target
Mo, just because you haven’t seen him play that doesn’t mean he isn’t worth £42m?? 🤷🏻♂️
Everyone told us we were broke and only gonna spend 40 mill we’ve spend 72 mill already
How do people really listen to this Mo? He's just a very bitter person. Guy, please get a life and find some happiness in your life. This is becoming embarrassing.
Not United fan, but it's normal United overspend against Real Madrid. Plus I guess, Madrid didn't value Yoro for money United offered or even asked Yoro to run down his contract. Yoro probablly didn't want to start uncomfortable conflicts as still being a youngster with Lille, so accepted United offer. But that's fine, because Real is biggest most succesfull club and United way is a way to compete with Real Madrid pull.
@@Arty2senisExactly!!! We're definitely not as attractive as Madrid. This is the only way we can compete
@@flaco101 that's why it's good transfer. Yoro could become Arsenal's Saliba or Ben White. Arsenal were bantered to overspend, but to this day, these teansfers look one of the best.
Davies was valued at 25m by madrid doesnt mean hes worth that hes worth way more. Madrid are in the most unique position being so successful that they can dictate valuation.
@@Arty2senis "Yoro could become Arsenal's Saliba or Ben White" as in win fcuk all, just like Fabio "He's better than KDB" Vieria and Sambi "The New Patrick Vieria: Lokonga and every other Arteta signing haven't
Where’s Califiori ?
Back in training with Bologna thanking his lucky stars that Edu's clueless
Terry your all wrong £42m not £62
Nope
lol at no point did i think Moh was saying Chelsea is finished i took it to mean chelsea has lost some of its pull this season because of previous seasons failures
Didn’t know Real Madrid scouts were the best scouts in the world, endrick looks like absolute shit, and they might spend 60m if it works out
Lets not act like the club had no influence in his decision. Its the same reason why Mudryk went to chelsea. When a big slub offer a small club such a large fee for a player, the player will be forced out. There is no way Yoro's club was letting him walk away on a free next year. Only players like Mbappe can do that. Yoro is an unproven 18 year old.
60m for potential clubs do that what's the issue
The same Madrid fans were doing gassed when they overpaid for a knockoff Pele who was 16 at the time😂😂😂😂
Its easy to rebuild but difficult to get the rite coach to bring the best from the young players ,ua buying
If fans can’t criticize other clubs then why does Terry do all the transfer shows lol
Trent with one year left on contract...£50-60m max
So by mos logic assna over payed for rice because man city didn’t value him at the same price assna did ? 😂
Obvious point - he's worth 50m to United because we need him more than Real.
@samwize28 Well done for eliminating any nuance.
If they didn't have Rudiger and Alaba, they, based on how they move, in all honesty would have bid more.
This isn't Barca with Dembele amd Coutinho
they lowballed lille.
is mbappe worth 0?
@@vkdeen7570 Exactly. Take Toney. Brentford want far more than clubs think he's worth, because for Brentford he's a major factor between staying in the Prem and being relegated.
Staying in the Prem is worth over 100m in revenue etc.
@samwize28 Exactly. Their argument is "But but but Real are the best club therefore their valuations matter the most" but when Barca were the best club did we accept their transfer valuations as rhe "Benchmark?."
It's context; If January comes round and I'm Everton and in the bottom 3 and Braithwaite and Tarkowski are injured for the rest of the season, and I need a CB, this affects bidding valuations
@Taporeee toney transfer market value is 50m euros
if Chelsea go and offer 25m
and arsenal offer 50m
u don't say arsenal over paid. u say Chelsea low balled.
but because everyone is so salty against utd they're trying all sorts of bs
Madrid just wanted to do their usual trick of leaving it till the last minute and squeezing the selling club relying on the players desperation to join well this kid obvs didn't feel valued enough by Madrid to wait
If Terry wasn't a Man Utd fan and looked at it objectively he'd see that Man Utd wildly overpaid. The previous record for an 18yr old defender was Bastoni at €31m and Saliba at €30m, they both had 12 months left on their contracts, and they needed 2-3 years on loan until they were ready because CB is not a position for teenagers at the very top level (title challenging teams).
United doubled it. Madrid didn't cap their offer at €25m because they didn't value Yoro, they just understood what his value is because Yoro would have been loaned out and is not a sure thing. Yoro MUST be successful, there's no middle ground for Yoro because Man Utd have paid the kind of money teams pay for ready made defenders.
Why is everyone pushing so hard for Trent to leave Liverpool? Are rivals that worried about him??
Well said Mo if Chelsea paid 52m for this guy everyone would be on them for overpaying. However the new all singing and dancing Utd can do no wrong with their excellent recruitment of staff and players except all the ones they've laid off heartlessly.
Ornstein has said up to 70 million tier one Terry talking bollocks as usual
This was supposed to be we will walk away United 70 million for an unproven 18 year old.
The most embarrassing thing is Real didn’t think he’s worth the money and this guy had a year left on his contract much the same as the stupid 60 million they paid for Mount 😂
Im glad this has been recorded 😂😂😂
Agree with Mo on Merino. It's not 50M signing where you dwell for 10M. On the other hand Real wanted 50M for Odegaard, but Arsenal waited for a while and negotiated price to 35M and that was perfect bussiness.
Real Madrid and Carlo Ancelotti were so desperate to get rid of Missing 'Won Nothing' Gostagaard that they offered him to clubs for free. But Edu the clown waited for a while and negotiated the price to 35M which was typical Arsenal business.
On the other hand, Pep sold 2 of his injury prone rejects Zimchenko and Jesus for 80m to the bottlers then 2 days later signed Akaanji and Haaland for 63m
That's good business because that's what big UCL winning clubs with proper managers do
Some fans are off their heads. For a player to be a good signing they have to, he 23, have prem experience, only want to join you and be 10 mill under what another club was offering 😂 so nobody would sign anyone apart from Madrid 😂😂
Every player Newcastle have is with them because Madrid didn’t value them and Newcastle offered more same with every other club below that of the top 4 in England 😂
by mos logic mbappe isn't worth it cause Madrid didn't want to pay what psg wanted and waited for his contract to run out?
There was way too much talk about a player most didn’t hear of before June.
Terry stop acting like players don't move to a club because thier old club needs the money
Liverpool should sell Mo, get that money, and reinvest
I love Mo's hair. Hope he doesn't speak like he's having a baby again .. Big up gentlemen
The reason we got Yoro was he didn't want to leave his boyhood club on a free and do them dirty plan and simple
Hassam cant take it his club lost out on a gem 💎 to his rivals 😂😂😂😂😂
Your point doesn't stand untill you agree with Terry
😂😂
Saliba was 27 million
How is Trent the best RB in the world 😅
Husam, that’s like saying Madrid didn’t value Mbappe at all and only wanted him for free
Madrid Low-Balled. And United Paid the Value.
The Bitterness of Moh is Hilarious.
He is Absolutely not wanting to Listen or even Understand the Price payment.
How can Madrid's Valuation now be the Valuation of All Players😂😂😂👇👇
Terry looks so desperate to be positive and I know his anxiety as an Arsenal fan
Whn arteta was rebuilding,he could use 100m to bring 4 to 5 players,u dont rebuild with 50m players,how many will u buy,dats not rebuilding,50m brings ready made players bse rebuilding is taking risk in ua hand
Trent is incredibly inconsistent. Defensively he's average. At midfield he is unproven. Yes he can send outrageous longballs onto the feet of forwards.. but £120 million? Let Madrid have him.
Terry, get this in your head ....... he didn't PICK United because Real Madrid and United didn't put up the same fee, and then he went i want to go United ....Real Madrid wasn't paying the same amount of money as your club did .... stop waffling about he pick Man United over Real 😂😂😂😂
Kids going to end up like all the stars that go united 😂😂😂😂
Its fine lads u can be salty we luv to see it. Mo sounds like a casual these days. Btw alphonso davies was valued at 25mil by madrid but does that mean hes worth that?? If another team went and spent more than 25 is that now an L? Weird take bro.
Husam, im a chelsea fan and im with u on some of the points u make about chelsea, but brother… 1% the maresca joint clicks next season and they sit on top of liverpool, u will have to abandon your channel and go offline
Are United doing the Chelsea and spending all there money on young players and hoping they do well?
Market value Website is a load of nonsense it doesn't mean he will go for anything nest that price. So many other things come into the price of a player. Market value is nonsense 😂
Them two looking very bitter 😂
Mo hates united with a passion hes one of them people that doesn't listen to himself speak 😂😂😂😂
Greenwood sold Alvaro Fernandez sold Donny van de beek sold lol lindelof and mctominay otw out
Cry more Mo.... RM trying to scam the club. Lille refused to be held hostage and neither does the player. The selling club sets the price...
Very entertaining stream Terry,you couldn't pick a better pair of clowns to have joined you,seriously,the two old blokes from the Muppets who sat in the balcony could do a better job.
This clown always says thing are not good at city 😅 but keep winning every season
Terry got cooked the whole stream
The only person speaking facts
Do people realize what generational actually means? It means once in a generation. How can there be multiple generational talents in one generation? hahah. Learn the definitions of words before using them.
Moh's talking rubbish! Rest
Why does mo hate united so much?
People are saying guy on the left is salty but he has no reason to, he’s not a fan of any premier league club and tbh he is speaking facts
The guy with the glasses and beard looks like those losers who spend alot of time on screen time in their rooms
...in Africa
Terry i know u r gassed for this signing but if yoro is that great worth 50 mil and 150k/week why he wasn’t participating in the euros next to saliba for example?😂 madrid made sense only because they were not that stupid to overpay for an 18 year old who has 1 year left of his contract😂😂😂
112k a week.
18 years old league one team of the season.
the market value is literally 50m euros. madrid were low balling
@@vkdeen7570 7-9 million a year with bonuses i calculated approximately with 8 million cause obviously not every bonus will get achived. I’ll let you do the math. Still overpaid due to the fact the guy had 1 yalear of his contract.😀
@martonjanos835 if he hits the addon and bonuses it mean he's doing things like winning the ballon dor... which means he's obviously worth it
his independent market value with 1 year on contract is 50m euros (same as Ivan toney btw)
utd paid 50m euros... plus POTENTIAL addons upto 12m euros
his base wage his 112k per week that's less than lindelofs base wage lol
at worst u can try to argue it's a little over market value ... that's nothing to beat madrid to best cb prospect in the world
@martonjanos835 we can even break it down for u £42m fee let's just say he hits all clauses (that includes a ballon dor) + 10m addons. wage approx 6m per year x 6 (6 year contact)
that's a total outlay over 6 seasons of 88m... less than £15m per season. ....
@@vkdeen7570 in 2 years his contract will be renegotiated so this point is clueless😀 and utd have to double his wage minimum to keep him or madrid will get him. And now you are going even down with his wage. Terry who seems reliable said his wage will be min 7 million a year 9 with bonuses,why r u talking about 6 mil,mate? Stop waffling and accept the fact your team overpaid rn. It might turn out to be a great signing or a total flop,we have seen both,there is no evidance rn he will flop I didn’t say that but it seems a risky investment considering lille’s latest sold players didn’t turn too good.
Them boyz salty like lot's wife
Mo got this one wrong, it’s good business
Salt
I did wake up to watch Lille cause of Jonny David 😂 cry more mo
Mo
Real wanted Yoro on their terms ONLY. Just as they did with Mbappe
Real does not want to pay clubs for players because it will cause issues with FFP. If it ain't free they ain't interested
Terry, Kambwala turned down a new contract so the club did the best thing by not allowing him to go on a free
25 k wages to 180 k
20 m fee from madrid vs nearly 70 m from United
"We beat Real Madrid, we have so much pull"
Its hard for other supporters to see utd any different after over 10 years of disaster buys .
😅😅😅😅
Leny yoro is so overrated. He will be exactly like amrabat
Terry can be very childish at times and does not know how to take criticism on the chin like a man. No wonder his fighting career went down quickly. Very weak chin for a man who likes to give out jabs. Otherwise still a terrace fan forever.
Don't be upset I criticized you T. We all have our days, best fan show on yt, big ups bruv
👏 facts
Moh’s a donut 🍩 he only had a year left on his contract , Ben White was 50. , John stones 50 , etc if we had bought Branthwait for 70-80 they would be laughing at us … bitter punaaani’s
From the dipshit that can't spell doughnut - stick to baseball 🤠
Taylor swift " hater's gonna hate hate hate "😂😂😂😂
Mo said de ligt was a flop lol at juve the and Bayern
TOO MANY EUROS FOR YOROO HAHAHAHAHHAHHA😂😂😂😂😂
All you Utd fans getting hard ons!! Good player but he really wanted Madrid let’s be fair and his wages!? It’s okay Terry you might get top 6🔴🤡😄
Paying 62m euros for 18yr old and yeah they got a gem when it's Chelsea his shiit 😂😂😂😂 you guys are funny 😂🤣🤣
@@udochukwuemmanuel5360 Man talking in Euros & adding every possible add-on to make it seem like a bigger fee. 🤣🤣 Cry more.
@@NoirFan84he’s coping - allow it 😂
Your club has spent a billion on child trafficking. Get a grip
Real Madrid valued him at 25 not for his value but for his one year left on his current contract. If they knew that he will say yes to Man United, they would have played this differently 💯🤷.
Leny Yoro according to value for skill set is an absolute beast. And Liverpool would have paid more if they suspected that he would pick United
When had that Yoro said no to Liverpool? This is news to me, we were never gonna get him as an 18 year old when he’ll be on over 100,000 a week wherever he goes, he’s good but I’m not losing any sleep over it, absolutely not an L for us in my opinion.
He was you’re prime target but ok
@@yassinhani1600 that doesn’t answer my question, did he legit say no to us or have we pulled out cos his wages are gonna be around 140k a week for an 18 year old? fucking Luis Diaz is on like 80k a week for us, we’re not putting an 18 year old on 140k a week straight away.
@@MrParabellum21LFC inquired and he said he wants to go to Madrid, so Liverpool pulled out. This is widely recorded. United went about it through the club first so he was swayed by the intent.
@@FountainOfYoot oh yeah I know that, I’m just wondering how he’s meant to have rejected Liverpool in favour of United, only reason he’s going to United now is 1) wages, they’re gonna pay more it’s United, 2) he’ll get into Uniteds team, he’s not getting in over vvd and Konate, who’s he competing with at United, Lindelof?
@@MrParabellum21 he didnt officially reject you because you didnt put in a bid or started talks with him but he technically did, you enquired about him and his mind was already set on Madrid
Great stream lads, nice to see some rare balanced opinions on Chelsea, we all know Hussam is gunna hate just like Henry and Potts do on other streams, but well done Mo and Terry for providing some balanced arguments
The guy on the left loves hearing himself talk. 😅
He thinks his opinions are absolutes
@@DC94359 Why so salty? Rival fans always call us "Deluded United fans"...We don't think about you guys at all 😂😂😂
Moh usually talks sense but I don't agree with his logic here. Madrid tried to low-ball Lille because they knew had a year on his contract & Madrid was his dream move, it was bullyboy tactics, but it backfired. I don't care about this "he's only worth 25M to Madrid", Madrid do their scouting homework on players, they don't go in for bums & they don't often miss. Them showing serious interest in Yoro is a good endorsement of the player's potential for me. If this kid fulfills his potential, the price tag will look like a steal & United will get years out of him before selling him on for a big profit. 🤷♂️
Mo actually makes sense. Until this news of Man Utd chasing Leny Yoro came up no one knew anything about him. Even now, most of those who are backing him know nothing about him. Can anyone say for certain why is he worth the 53 million plus addons instead of the 25 million that RM offer?
You spoke about his potential. What is his potential and whats the ceiling for the kid?
Player's potential is also dependent on what environment they will find themselves in. Yoro going to Utd at the moment with the pressure he might be a regular starter in the hardest league is not the same as going to the best club in the world with quality in every position and you are guaranteed success every year. Look what they are doing with Guler, how they worked Tchoumeni, Camavinga, Valverded, Vini and so on into the team. He might work out for Utd or Utd can be a stepping stone to move to Madrid in 4-5 years, same as Ronaldo.
@Gunner_MAK Why is it important we as fans know about him? He's highly rated by the people who's job it is to recognise a footballer's talent levels, that's more important than random fans especially rivals who are salty about the signing.
@@Gunner_MAKlmao no. We heard about Yoro when MADRID were chasing him. United just jumped into a wave that was happening for months.
Also having watched United for 3 decades, most fans had no idea about most of the players the club bought. Not vidic, not evra, not about Ronaldo etc etc. fans of Liverpool didn’t think about Salah. This happens very regularly. And we SHOULDNT know more about the football fraternity more than our club. That means the people employed by the club are idiots.
@@NoirFan84 keeping your point into consideration, then tell me how is the new regime any different from the old one? The old one was being fleeced. And now the new one is.. speaking of rival fansbeing salty, what exactly should they be salty bout? Since you yourself have no clue what you are landing, hiw do you expect rivals to know and be salty about?
I like Mo but disagree with his logic. basing his point solely from madrid not wanting to pay more than 20m for yoro. Madrid paid 35m rising to 60m for a 16 yo brazilian with no european experience, just off potential alone. they once paid 60m for jovic who scored like 2 goals in 2 seasons for them. just because they are the biggest club itw doesnt mean their word is gospel or that they get every decision right
The Endrick deal is somewhat related to Vini and Rodrygo who were bought at around 40 million, and look where they are.
@@vinaysun97 so basically the same thing
@@vinaysun97 not every highly rated Brazilian youngster is gonna turn out like them tho, its still gambling on potential.
@@tinkerman4326 you meant Yorro and Endrick's deal is same? Maybe just that with madrid they have seen it succeed so they wouldn't think it's much of a risk, different from Yorro deal but in today's tranfer market you are paying for the potential rather than proven track record.