The amount of cringe outside the academic framework goes from "bougie white people aya-weekend commodification" to downright malicious manipulation of people searching for spirituality
The first part of this conversation about Andrew's academic journey is fascinating. If you prefer to skip to the DMT discussion though, it begins ~ 46:47 and then again at 1:40:47 Edited this comment to add 1:40:47 after @Brand1409 pointed this out. Thank you Brand1409!
@@Sprite_525 Sure thing. I like timestamps, too. Lots of folks unfortunately don't have the time/space to listen to (and digest) these great conversations.
i have Bpd so i only finished with an MSc in biochemistry due to my mental health but i went to school just to learn drug synthesis so I could experiment with my own brain chemistry. I have high functioning autism and my special interest was O chem. I made 5meo dmt via hydrazine route from a paper from years back , probably a decade or longer ago and had a serious breakthrough with my own acceptance and understanding of myself after tripping balls on it lol. it was like my 10th time trying it, where i had the real breakthrough, the universe showed itself to me and showed me why it gave me this extra brain function and where i fit in, and how others truly viewed me, was in fact outside of my own perception of how they view me. (the most vindicating thing ive ever felt) the phenethylamines and tryptamine chemistry has opened my mind to things i could never have imagined back in school. When i find something new to contribute ill go back for the doctorate lol.
Borderline personality disorder? I always wondered if psychedelics could help with PDs. Like with processing the childhood trauma that developed it and such, and re wiring those pathways in the brain
Dmt and ketamine both help with processing all types of traumas including repressed. Some people talk about past life traumas that have carried over being brought to light during the experiences. (If you can accept that) always remember to start off with the smallest effective dose when trying something new as to not do more harm to your psyche. It takes preparation as well I wouldn’t recommend doing anything like this on a whim or without knowledge of what you may encounter.
Dude, it's not "only" a Master's, lol. That is a huge accomplishment. I would like to hear more about how 5meo affected you or rather your perception of yourself and having autism. I've read a couple recountings from people with autism claim that the use of psychedelics have helped them in overcoming certain challenges, which is a topic I'm interested in. Do you believe this is true?
Terrence McKenna, “there are old trippers, there are bold trippers, but there are no old bold trippers”. You get to a point where you have to put the torch down. I never thought I’d see the day but it happens. Out of all my experiences I’ve gotten nothing more then questions then answers. I hope the brave can help us model the mind and human experience. Life is a beautiful mystery
I'm 28 amd I find, light dosage to be the way to go for me now. Infrequent, and light dosage. They day may come again for a large dose but I've been finding peace with simply marijuana and the sober mind
We are in an experience that has rules and borders. DMT, psilocybin etc hint at what exists beyond these so we can only ever have more questions than answers until we experience bodily death and return to non material form.
Hamilton, you’re the only person where I will listen to your sponsored information as well as everything else. You do it right. Everything is interesting from start to finish. Another great one. Thank you. 🥇
Now this is wierd af! Im replying to a comment that is attached to someone elses reply. Their picture, w/their own words (BUT MY NAME IS ON THEIR PHOTO/AVATAR.) tHIS WAS A COMMENT i MADE on a short video. The video, they pretended to be burnt alive in the oven. Everyone was calling it out as a stolen joke... NOW FF>> why is my comment in Hamiltons video? **HOLY SMOKES BATMAN! HAS SOMEONE SPIKED MY KOOLAID?** CRAY CRAY AF!
Loved the intro discussion about the value of hallucinations. Your perspective is one of those I find a deep value from, and I appreciate your contributions to this community very much. Thanks for continuing your work, and continuing to share your insights with the public.
“Avoid being Jesus at all costs.” 😂 lol I love you bro. Def an important insight for anyone experimenting with psychedelics because narcissistic psychosis/solipsism is a very real risk to a great number of people who lack the philosophical underpinning necessary to remain skeptical and therefore open to beneficial psychedelic experiences.
And if u study 'christ consciousness ' at all it's hard to hold urself above others or as special cuz u can see the god spark in us all. Supposedly we're all souls, right?
For anyone looking for what he means in more layman terms; stay humble, no matter what your mind tells you of yourself. Unless you can actually shoot lightning, don't go about life acting like you can.
Don't indulge the propensity towards psychedelic induced god complex. As heady as I am, I guess I've never considered this. I've always been in pursuit of answers. 🤔
@@JoshBruin77 If you were so “heady” why not spend more time begging the question of whether your questions are even valid let alone relevant to investigate.
lovely to hear people talk about something so passionately. even if most of the words don't connect with me the whole conversation was a joy to listen to. Thank you for your service Hamilton and Andrew!
You can't overdose on mushrooms alone . You can definitely eat the wrong mushroom and get poisoning from that, but no one has ever died from psilocybin OD
@@kathleenmcclenahan5701I'll recommend you to a store I got some of psychedelic products Lsd , edibles cannabis DMT , mushrooms XTC , Xanax , vape pen and they nice
What a great podcast and an amazing insight into the life of a working academic in this day and age. I just bought his two books and I'm excited to read them once they arrive! Your comment on the evolution of molecules reminded me of an episode of the Lex Fridman podcast with Lee Cronin and his thoughts on Origin of Life. It was nice for a social studies person like me to get an understanding of the complexity and importance of academic research like this. Overall your objective and informed approach to drugs and other social issues has been an inspiration to me.
….Gallimore interview is fine. Supporting A.Weil?? Nahh. Andy is(or was) a homophobic scumbag who is responsible for Dr.Richard Alpert being FIRED from Harvard. Weil also supported aerial based poisoning of Coca, Poppy & FOOD! crops in S.America & Mexico in the 1990’s!! Mycoherbicides. Jonathan Ott & Jeremy Bigwood have direct experience with this as they fought against Weil & Stamets likely Darpa funded attempt at Agent Orange part two in South America-Mexico!!
I love your explanation of how and why we see color. It actually explains for those who may not have known, how during psychedelic experiences on certain substances, one can see colors they have never seen before, colors that "Don't exist" and such, due to our perception of the external stimuli changing.
Worked all day, have to work tomorrow, and just finished doing school work so I can get ahead in my field. Seeing another interview posted is such an amazing treat right now.
@@BennieTarrMusic living in a can down by the river? Lol please don’t confuse my drive to be able to practice and learn more as an attempt to further myself into this stupid virtual reality called capitalism. If I lose my house tomorrow I can feed myself, mend myself to some degree, and protect myself ontop of having education and training. Sorry for whatever you are going through/went through that drove you to post that and I hope it has or will turn around.
You can't overdose on mushrooms alone . You can definitely eat the wrong mushroom and get poisoning from that, but no one has ever died from psilocybin OD
But they're not invariably good, and there is a limit to where they are helpful vs where they become unhelpful or even harmful. One should not use hallucinogens for instance if they have had psychosis, derealization, etc.
Been expectantly waiting for more content. Depression and Anxiety are a struggle, but your content provides much needed intellectual stimulation and proves to be a worthy distraction from my personal issues. Thank you for all you’ve done and will do, Hamiltón. (As Eric Andre once said your name in a Spanish accent😂)
1:37:33 -- FINALLY!! I've heard someone with a scientific/neurological background speak power to a realization I had while tripping. I get the feeling that my conscious experience itself is the final output of my organism. This is opposed to how I used to feel, which is that I was actually observing my experience from my thinking mind.
@@bubzuru I'm speaking about my conscious experience as whole, which seems like this "debugger" is clearly a very big part. What I'm tying to say is that I used to see this "debugger" as something that, at some level, was controlling the actions. The feeling I have now is that this "debugger" is actually the final product of the organism...i.e. self-consciousness. The key difference is that the "debugger" seems to be purely observing; perpetually commenting on what has already taken place, but unable to affect any changes.
@@equiles I'm not sure I follow your question. If I am following, you're asking if awareness is observing its own creation? My response is that awareness cannot create anything, it is the result of creation and therefore is creation itself. It's the tip of the needle of consciousness. Also, there's some confusion in language here -- awareness cannot observe anything. To be aware is to observe. So, asking if awareness is observing its own creation is a redundant question. Awareness is something like a state of being and action at once, which we don't really have a word for.
Andrew and team's DMTx research and experimentation is the most interesting and exciting project I've heard about since Strassman's original stuff at Albuquerque, truly some pioneering stuff. It's true what they say that it's impossible to really imagine what that might be like to spend HOURS in that state, that's gonna be absolutely nuts if it does stabilize at some point. I'm just thinking what if after you pass the point that it typically wears off it suddenly stabilizes and the entities are suddenly understandable. Their goal of using it as a tool to learn things that can be brought back to solve problems in our world is a great idea, as well!
pioneer? just cause some colonists do it its new? nah this is ancient and has its methods. Nothing they say about the realm is remotely profound. All the time in that state yet nothing to show for it except for typical trip reports and surface crap everyone knows. They come back with nothing but a few frames of memory and talk like they have any answers. They dont call out their daddies in government censoring this medicine and lick ass for a living. No honor or morals like the culture they derive from. A turd doesnt become a man just because they take dmt for long periods of time.
I tested full lotus third eye qigong meditation against DMT and Salvia Divinorum. The Qi energy overrides the electrochemical energy just as D.M. Turner proved the DMT elves are figments of the electrochemical energy - he combined Salvia with DMT and the "elves" were dismantled. hahahhaa.
YES. I am so glad you have Andrew Gallimore on your show. I started reading his book Alien Information Theory last year and it's a difficult read. So it's nice to have him on so a more relaxed conversation about the subject matter can occur. Thank you Hamilton.
If human perception is limited by the natural constraints that exist within the human sense making apparatus, leading to interpretations that are cultural and archetypical, how can we then use the features of a DMT experience as evidence of external reality - is seems like some kind of circular reasoning where you can’t have it both ways. All we can say is that the DMT state is completely constructed by the brain, like all other brain states
Both of you are such a pleasure to listen to. We're always in dire need of access to strong, bright minds and it's amazing how much this level of discourse continues to develop on UA-cam. Psyched to get hold of Andrew's books and to subscribe to his substack. Thank you, Hamilton.
this is such a fulfilling, rich and satisfying conversation to hear. Pondering the information my senses take in is a fun pass time. Color, light, smell, sound, touch, emotion. These are all things that have a quantum world that don't reflect our wider perspective. I feel like knowing some of this can help people with depression, and find the beauty and wonder in being alive at all.
This technology could be more profound for society than having a real inception dream machine. Fascinating interview can't wait to see where dmtx goes.
believe it or not a variable frequency drive set to 40 hz with an attached module to step down voltage and amperage attached to contacts on your skin will reliably induce lucid dreams.
WHAT A GREAT INTERVIEW!!!! Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pick....., WILL ALWAYS WELCOME YOU !!
I don't know who would be a good guest for this, but I'd love to see an episode with a focus on deliriants! They don't seem very interesting pharmacologically (at least the normal ACh inhibitors) but they are some of the most psychotropically interesting drugs in my opinion!
I met Hamilton in person while he was in Philadelphia less than a year ago at 43rd and Baltimore. He had visted my favorite local cafe, near the park I grew up playing soccer in. Hamilton didn't know how much he made my afternoon on my way to do Doordash in Center City, but I do hope his lectures at (FKA)University of the Sciences and Pharmaceuticals went well and I wish i could have sat in and heard him speak. Thank you Hamilton for that awkward warm encounter.
Hey Hamilton Morris, Jesus here, just wanted to say you are doing a fine job and I approve of you. I'll be watching you (contstantly) to make sure you keep spreading the "Good News." See ya!
This is all fascinating to one with a blind silent mind. The idea of psychedelics and seeing things that were not there always put me off. I never knew you all see stuff in your imaginations without it!
thanks for what you do, Hamilton. I really enjoyed the introductory rant. The thing about hallucinations is that they're metaphors for our lived understanding of reality, and may reveal something about reality, but they're not reality itself. I have some schizoaffective disorder and i mainly have cognitive hallucinations (i never have had visual hallucinations, even with psychedelics. i'm myopic in this world, and blind in that other world, apparently). So the important thing is to integrate what you hallucinate (an immediate, impersonal insight) into your personal life. To remember that you do still exist as a person, even if society is an illusion. That you're a human, even if "human" is not an essence but a set of occurrences of an evolved complex system, completely embedded with its environment. That you're Jesus, but only in the sense that he was a human equally to you, and you shouldn't envy or begrudge him for being a prophet: he's not a higher-status outgroup whom you can't relate to, or join; you have the potential to do the same thing as he, and gain some kind of familiarity with the divine. you just need to do it sincerely, not for your own gain
How different is schizoaffective to full blown schizophrenia? I have a friend who's really lost himself. You sound so much more grounded than him. I'd like to talk to you if that's okay.
@@chaoticatmos1461 it still has psychotic symptoms (keywords solipsism and alienation) but it's in a way less intense because it's more focused on the emotional meaning of events and mood than in the semantic meaning of messages. But it's not exactly "less schizophrenic", like it's not a 1 dimensional quantifiable axis, just like ASD. There are still logic-defying weird beliefs and lenses you look at the world through, and impulses which drive your behaviour, thoughts and emotions in a way that can simply be not true or useful, or simply that are just in your head. which is why it then turns pathological as it provokes distress and less than optimal function overall, its harder to fulfill duties and schedules than somebody else would, and in the end social prejudice and a real difficulty in communicating and fitting in interactions in a way that works. I think for 6 months to a year, 2 or 3 years ago, i might have been more schizophrenic simply because i was more emotionally stable and fulfilled, i had a more solid friend group and social security net, i was younger and with fewer mistakes attributable to myself only. As of recent, it's been heavily emotional, so closer so schizoaffective, and it coincides with me having to admit my life plans at university wouldn't work out (after persevering for 3 years with little results, due to this condition but also generally bouts of depression and anxiety, stress from moving out and badly fitting in with my flatmates, then grief and heartbreak for specific events. This tied to my field of study, philosophy and psychology, which instead of solving existential crises, dysfunctions and personality disorders, only gave me a clearer picture of what is wrong with me lmao, which was increasingly harder to cope with. These weren't necessarily all at the same time, nor do they each deserve a diagnosis on their own. My point is that there are components of each distinctly saturated disorder in almost every other one, because psychopathologies are a very narrow subset of human behaviour which is still very much aligned to human behaviour generally. We all have more in common than . Schizophrenia is the folly to disregard narrow filters. And so these different categories of symptoms are not reducible by statistics to a pure, origin centered cloud of points in 3 dimensions. We're far from the origin, 13.8 billion light years away. Anyway, those syndromes all interact and it's hard to pinpoint what causes what. If something is given by the pathology or by the personality. Mood may point to depression, but also social chronic failure, which is not depression and may depend on anxiety or on a root personality disorder (loosely; you could call it a flaw). Etc. People are complicated and the disorder they have is not an external virus getting in and festering, it's a 1 to 1 mapping of their situation in the world, through the filter of their values and beliefs, in a feedback loop with everybody else, aka it's the phenotype of mind and cosmos interacting through their body. That's how I see it anyway. We have no idea what schizophrenia truly is because we don't know what the universe is. We have a neuroscience of reductionism which guarantees nothing against a mind philosophy of emergence, and who is even thinking of what role quantum mechanics allows as possible explanation for schizophrenia, except non-psychiatrists like Dr Gallimore and Thomas Campbell? Sorry for the rant. I hope this was interesting, useful, or even amusing to you
I also had a somewhat unexpected and proundly zen/ psychedelic experience with muscmol combined with 5htp.I meditated a whole day by with open eyes listening and sensing every small thing around me.What I found so beautiful was I were so conscious and aware I were in this particular state.I were able to perceive all the things that occur without us noticing in our regular mind states.Incredibly refreshing and highly recommended!😐🙏🌌🌠
Totally makes sense, and seems aligned. Nice to hear scientists chime in and take us through their process of trying to understand these world model disruption processes. Very interesting
Hallucinations are the real reality, bro! Hahahaha I don't think I've ever heard you talk like that before hamilton I just almost peed myself laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
very good guest thank you for introductions and the insights! i am currently studying bioinformatics and have had the delight to have cognitive neuroscience and the subjects of matter and I am doing a research of my own in the category. Good vid
the reframing of different phenomenological experiences as adaptive representations of reality vs maladaptive representations seems like such a nice tool going forward in science/philosophy. for ex, Donald Hoffman, Andres Emilsson work could be interpreted to have some similar themes. hopefully these sort of "meta-phenomenological" programs provide some juice
That would be wild, instead of asking how long you were out thinking it felt instant, you’d be asking that because you felt like you were gone forever 😂
Issue with the beginning: What would be the impetus for complex molecules to evolve and doesn’t that contradict entropy? I’m not sure evolution makes sense on either level imo. Issue with the middle: The whole model about how hallucinogens work on the brain I think needs to be reconsidered. I’m talking about the whole model where you’re considering different ways the brain can construct this realm so quickly and elaborately and one theory you mentioned was that in dream states we are already building it in our subconscious… But suppose the job of the brain is not to *create* but instead to *filter* - In that case, various hallucinogenic drugs that work on different parts of the nervous system would affect the ability of the filter to work in various ways but still have common themes. With this theory the biggest pill to swallow for materialist scientists is that the realm, the entities, the lies and dogma all of it is actually around us all the time but the brain was built to filter it out.
Well to say this was inspirational is a vast understatement. Throughout the course of this video, you and Dr Gallimore have provided me with a very deep interest into the way our brain interacts with these substances. Before watching this video I had never considered pursuing any type of education in chemistry, i was always fascinated by psychedelics but never considered how I could actually apply my life to them.. besides experiencing them that is haha. Like you said near the end, a lot of people in the psychedelic community are in it simply for the trip or just something to get high off of, but I want nothing more than to expand my knowledge of psychedelics and in general the chemistry of our world. Not only have I purchased Dr. Gallimores book but I have reached out to my local university in hopes of getting an education in chemistry. This video has single handedly inspired me enough to change the direction of my life and to pursue this. I’m excited to see where this takes me and I’m even more excited to learn everything I can about the building blocks of our reality. Thanks for the work you guys have done and sharing it with the rest of the world
Regarding personal vs universal, it is by dividing out the personal factors if only statistically, that we can describe the phenomenal space as a mode of consciousness. By doing so, we can progress towards the discovery of the invariants of consciousness, a necessary step in solving the hard problem.
Interesting bit about the molecular neruroplasticity within the cortex columnar networks as the basic biological mechanism for having the default reality model altered. Great interview and discussion 👍
I experienced DMT several times in a single night. The only way I can explain it is that it feels like what a baptism should be. Idk if that makes sense but it's how I feel about it. Greatest thing I've ever experienced and it literally changed who I am.
Thank you both for that inspiring dialogue. I watched his psychedelics and the brain course in UA-cam a couple of years ago and understanding how the brain constructs reality has completely changed the way I perceive the world!
Yo, this is literally the only channel I have notifications for. I love and admire how responsibly you discuss psychedelics even though you are clearly so biased toward them.
I can recommend you to where I get my stuff from an online store his got his got Shrooms, psychedelics, alongside other products well Refined ships to anywhere discreetly.
I must admit I jumped right to the DMT parts and it was a bit underwhelming. I thought Dr. Andrew was going to reveal some new information but obviously were only at Step. 1. These scientific experiments should have happened decades ago, but better late than never. Nonetheless, keep it up Hamilton, I can never get enough of you.
Yes I feel exactly the same way. Pretty much everything mentioned here I've already read before, years ago. We're at a point in history where taking the stuff tells us more about what it's doing than what science can. This is why I love McKenna so much; he'll throw out ideas based on his direct experience. Right or wrong, I appreciate his willingness to put his credibility on the line by revealing what his experiences have shown him. I've used mushrooms and DMT with the express interest in solving the problem of what might be happening under the influence of these things, and without boring people with my personal findings, I will say one of the messages I've gotten is that I must use them as tools if I want to find clues about what they're doing, life/death, reality, time, and other existential matters. This is the point of their existence. I can't help but feel like researching these substances instead of doing them is like researching about the mechanics of sex instead of just having it. They are two totally different things. You can research until you're blue in the face and have every scientifically technical answer in the world, but you'll never get close to the actual experience or what the experience is really trying to show you.
@@johnvalencia9927 That's a very powerful point of view, and it's definitely in line with Mckenna's treasuring of "direct experience". I agree with everything you just said, and these are definitely interesting tools for exploring reality!
I will never forget my DMT trip. I met a field of deities looking like the multi limbed Hindu goddess types. Down to my right, as it was a Mandelbrot set of them, one looked at me through her third eye. The wave of red made me just fall in love, but I still asked for my big brother who I lost. Another wave of red, for the rest of the trip, I repeatedly exalted the beauty of her....I think it was me. ❤️I for one, would only love to go back.....but you said no volunteers! Lol
If you've been there enough times you might have noticed that time does not exist in hyperspace. I've never felt limited by that particular dynamic of the experience, especially seen as it seems capable of downloading huge quantities of information instantaneously what i'd be most concerned about is how he possibly hopes to assimilate it all? That takes "time", more time than you have.
I think it is time for all these top scientists exploring consciousness, reality and alternate states to get together: Hamilton, Andrew, Rick, Don Hoffman, Bernardo Kastrup, Sidarta Ribeiro, Eduardo Schenberg?
@@56Hoperoad69 I didn't mean that. One more psychedelics conference and talking just about psychedelics. What I meant is finding the areas where those studies intercect and try to come up with a collaborative explanation for this shit show that is reality and together make the theory mainstream. There is no reason for spending money on rockets, space or whatever if we don't figure out consciouness.
I've lived with teenager "fry babies" who abused psychs and had very horrible life.kong problems. Like angry evil gnomes that told him to hurt himself. Etc. You have to respect these things or you can truly hurt yourself. Test be safe. Don't over do a potential great things and make it a negative thing.❤ Please ❤❤
After my Ayahuasca experiences I have come to believe that what I witnessed was the mathematical source code of nature, beneath the user interface of physical reality. We all know that mathematics is the language of nature and the universe, I think the geometry we see when on psychedelics are expressions of this. Weather its outside of the mind, or inside of the mind also to me is a redundant question - everything is experienced through the 'mind'. And no experience you ever have will be the full truth, that's too big and in a state of change anyway. Any of it is only ever a glimpse. Its just a theory - but it makes sense to me and actually sits somewhere between 'spiritual' ideas and scientific understanding to this point.
As someone who has seen the shapes and stuff, I personally think it brings you to the primitive state of your brain that can’t distinguish complex shapes. Like instead of seeing a leaf you see a rectangle with triangle on the edges, and so on. Primitive brain could only see shapes, which is why unnatural right angles changed the way our brains worked and pushed us into a new eras. I think DMT brain is primitive brain, and the entities are extremely complex brain thoughts of primitive manifestations of our first egos
@@eggheadusa yes because everything is a million shapes. Davincis man, the flower of life. Primitive brain can only see that and not the prominent shapes bore from semblance of matter, you just see everything all at once and your brain can’t comprehend
A lot of the things you buy online to extract it are legal! It's a matter of knowing your rights and being smart once you start That's how I feel about things such as mushrooms, Ayahuasca, etc. Buying the things to make/grow these things are legal in many places (can never say all of course). What you do after is up to you, if you catch my drift
As a computer scientist the way I've answered these questions in a Layman's way is using computer science analogies. Groups of neuron activity correspond to perceptions, i think they can be like perception groups where each perceptual unit corresponds to different neuron activity groups. Like classes. Some correspond to placement, like size, hardness, beingness, depth, width, height, relative height, proximity, etc. Others correspond to social perceptions, like person, intelligence, being watched, a face, relation, proximity of person, identity, danger, safety, etc. And some others relate to sensory perceptions like temp, solid, vibration, color, liquidity, touch, unit/separation, etc. Amongst millions of other things, and they're all interconnected and build realities when going off in conjunction. A limited group of neurons may be a vibe, if you add some other groups of neurons it may turn into a notion, yet more is a mental image. Add a whole lot of neuron group activations and eliminate others and now you're really experiencing a sunset on a beach. Each group or groups of neuron activities corresponding to a perceptual element/unit (not necessarily in an additive way). DMT and other psychedelics activate and deactivate neurons groups in the brain in a certain way producing specific realities. Maybe there are chain reaction or oscillating activation, complex feedback, etc. Of course the real question you guys are dealing with is how this all actually happens in the brain and how drugs relate to it.
I also think there needs to be a distinction made between the hallucinatory states you experience in the midst of psychdelia and ones you see in the case of maladaptive pathologies. The ones you experience in psychedelia are isolated in a sense. They are "psuedohallucinations". Perhaps the most salient part of the psychedelic experience is that you are acutely or at least tacitly aware that you are experiencing something that is not the "world you are used to". However, in something like schizophrenia, you have no sense of the real world, no barometer to compare the realness of your sensory experience to. This is the difference. The relative realness of the schizophrenic hallucination is much higher than that of the psychedelic hallucination because you no longer have a bearing of the real world to compare the hallucination to at all.
Well put. I describe the hallucinatory thoughts, ideas, emotions, and visions experienced in the psychedelic state as being state-bound. Afterward you come down, you're able to "entertain" these certain experiences and compare them to your normal everyday experience. Some of the content can be useful in reorienting your own world-view in a more positive light, and some of the content can also be irrelevant, false, or negative in some way. However, since they're state bound, you'll come down and be able to assess these experiences in a sober state. During active psychosis, there's no comparison. You don't just entertain the notion of some paranoid fantasy, you believe it to be real, or ever "realer" than reality.
Something interesting I’ve seen with ketamine as a vet tech: not every animal but some, appear to be in a k-hole or deep salvia trip. Opening and closing their eyes, delayed reactions/ no reactions, but more interestingly unsolicited vocalization/reactions. Dodging, diving, and “talking” to nothing. Im not entirely convinced they are having a psychedelic experience but like to joke when I explain why I’m not worried about what has been taught to me as normal post op recovery when using ketamine
as a person who has been on a lot of ket and fentanyl in a trauma ward for 2 1/2 months they are having some insane dreams. the ket does it and some of them are absolutely like the most despair a person ever woke up from..and some are pretty nice. But i clearly remember making a nurse tell me that everything was ok outside there was still a world..nothing wrong and he told me that he sees it a lot so i wasnt feeling like such a muppet.
@@minddweller dxm is a rare one in australia i used to extract it and make a white crystaline powder which i believe changed to dextopine during the process and titration to produce the precip and it is pretty neat. like i dont like to tell people i like dubstep but at the time it seemed magic. salvia i have never done...a lot of dmt and many people draw similarity in experience so obviosly nuttin to fuck with. yeah homes the dissociative mind is a maze huh? go forth peeps
I got hooked with this dude who sells DMT, lsd an other psychedelics product could guide you through if you're a newbie very reliable and trustworthy mycologist,,,
Fantastic interview. Would be interesting to see Mr. Morris speak to Edwin C. May, former director of the US Government's Stargate Project on anomalous cognition.
that is one intriguing title, Hamilton
Seriously! I clicked right away!
I didn't even see the title til now tbh I just click on anything he posts 😂
yeah aha came here straight from instagram 😅
Indeed
Hamilton you’re one of the clearest thinkers in the psychedelic space. Thanks for doing what you do.
The amount of cringe outside the academic framework goes from "bougie white people aya-weekend commodification" to downright malicious manipulation of people searching for spirituality
"in the psychedelic hyperspace"
Not even close
Vedic approach easy girl just relax and go easy with the heavy claims! Do some yoga and take a second
@@patefutch6168 hippie cringe
The first part of this conversation about Andrew's academic journey is fascinating. If you prefer to skip to the DMT discussion though, it begins ~ 46:47 and then again at 1:40:47
Edited this comment to add 1:40:47 after @Brand1409 pointed this out. Thank you Brand1409!
@allthewayfrom thanks for the shoutout 🙏🏽 the whole podcast is great, but I like timestamps when possible
@@Sprite_525 Sure thing. I like timestamps, too. Lots of folks unfortunately don't have the time/space to listen to (and digest) these great conversations.
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Thanks guys appreciate this after I didn't see any time stamps in the description
Thank you
"There's a lot of jesuses out there, you don't want to be one of them. Avoid being jesus at all costs" I've been trying to say
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As a Jesus I️ feel triggered. 😛
@@radatabass I'm sorry to hear about your PTSD and I hope you're getting therapy
@@fallingdream I’m sorry about your sense of humor. Hope the same for you.
@@radatabass eternal slavery is really funny dude 😂
i have Bpd so i only finished with an MSc in biochemistry due to my mental health but i went to school just to learn drug synthesis so I could experiment with my own brain chemistry. I have high functioning autism and my special interest was O chem. I made 5meo dmt via hydrazine route from a paper from years back , probably a decade or longer ago and had a serious breakthrough with my own acceptance and understanding of myself after tripping balls on it lol. it was like my 10th time trying it, where i had the real breakthrough, the universe showed itself to me and showed me why it gave me this extra brain function and where i fit in, and how others truly viewed me, was in fact outside of my own perception of how they view me. (the most vindicating thing ive ever felt)
the phenethylamines and tryptamine chemistry has opened my mind to things i could never have imagined back in school. When i find something new to contribute ill go back for the doctorate lol.
Bad postal dexterity?
Borderline personality disorder? I always wondered if psychedelics could help with PDs. Like with processing the childhood trauma that developed it and such, and re wiring those pathways in the brain
Dmt and ketamine both help with processing all types of traumas including repressed. Some people talk about past life traumas that have carried over being brought to light during the experiences. (If you can accept that) always remember to start off with the smallest effective dose when trying something new as to not do more harm to your psyche. It takes preparation as well I wouldn’t recommend doing anything like this on a whim or without knowledge of what you may encounter.
Dude, it's not "only" a Master's, lol. That is a huge accomplishment. I would like to hear more about how 5meo affected you or rather your perception of yourself and having autism. I've read a couple recountings from people with autism claim that the use of psychedelics have helped them in overcoming certain challenges, which is a topic I'm interested in. Do you believe this is true?
@@grzyruth9205 S. helped me with rhythm so I do!
Terrence McKenna, “there are old trippers, there are bold trippers, but there are no old bold trippers”. You get to a point where you have to put the torch down. I never thought I’d see the day but it happens. Out of all my experiences I’ve gotten nothing more then questions then answers. I hope the brave can help us model the mind and human experience. Life is a beautiful mystery
I'm 28 amd I find, light dosage to be the way to go for me now. Infrequent, and light dosage.
They day may come again for a large dose but I've been finding peace with simply marijuana and the sober mind
Questions restore life's wonder
It can only teach you so much and then you can stop
We are in an experience that has rules and borders. DMT, psilocybin etc hint at what exists beyond these so we can only ever have more questions than answers until we experience bodily death and return to non material form.
Hamilton, you’re the only person where I will listen to your sponsored information as well as everything else. You do it right. Everything is interesting from start to finish. Another great one. Thank you. 🥇
haha I agree!
Hamilton, you make me love capitalism…. Smh
Underrated humor too, do not boof the tea
Now this is wierd af! Im replying to a comment that is attached to someone elses reply. Their picture, w/their own words (BUT MY NAME IS ON THEIR PHOTO/AVATAR.)
tHIS WAS A COMMENT i MADE on a short video. The video, they pretended to be burnt alive in the oven.
Everyone was calling it out as a stolen joke... NOW FF>> why is my comment in Hamiltons video?
**HOLY SMOKES BATMAN! HAS SOMEONE SPIKED MY KOOLAID?** CRAY CRAY AF!
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I've read Andrew's book twice and it's absolutely mind blowing to contemplate what's discussed
Just ordered both of them
Interesting character
@mycophil2onigstor7869 scammers hijacking comment threads^^^
Loved the intro discussion about the value of hallucinations. Your perspective is one of those I find a deep value from, and I appreciate your contributions to this community very much. Thanks for continuing your work, and continuing to share your insights with the public.
“Avoid being Jesus at all costs.” 😂 lol I love you bro. Def an important insight for anyone experimenting with psychedelics because narcissistic psychosis/solipsism is a very real risk to a great number of people who lack the philosophical underpinning necessary to remain skeptical and therefore open to beneficial psychedelic experiences.
And if u study 'christ consciousness ' at all it's hard to hold urself above others or as special cuz u can see the god spark in us all. Supposedly we're all souls, right?
For anyone looking for what he means in more layman terms; stay humble, no matter what your mind tells you of yourself.
Unless you can actually shoot lightning, don't go about life acting like you can.
Don't indulge the propensity towards psychedelic induced god complex. As heady as I am, I guess I've never considered this. I've always been in pursuit of answers. 🤔
Spiritual narcissism is a massive problem. There are a lot of self-appointed gurus in the psychedelic space.
@@JoshBruin77 If you were so “heady” why not spend more time begging the question of whether your questions are even valid let alone relevant to investigate.
lovely to hear people talk about something so passionately. even if most of the words don't connect with me the whole conversation was a joy to listen to. Thank you for your service Hamilton and Andrew!
Psilocybin, DMT, shrooms and ketamine are absolutely life changing substances that have so much potential to help people with mental health issues.
You can't overdose on mushrooms alone . You can definitely eat the wrong mushroom and get poisoning from that, but no one has ever died from psilocybin OD
@@kathleenmcclenahan5701I'll recommend you to a store I got some of psychedelic products Lsd , edibles cannabis DMT , mushrooms XTC , Xanax , vape pen and they nice
@@PepperLinksI've been looking to get my hands on shrooms since growing isn't an option for me . Any one knows where I can source?
@@peterestrada8542Yes he's dr jeffshroom
@@kiramatt6152Woo I'm not surprised you moment dr.jeffshroom name... They man is good and people always talk nice about him.
What a great podcast and an amazing insight into the life of a working academic in this day and age. I just bought his two books and I'm excited to read them once they arrive! Your comment on the evolution of molecules reminded me of an episode of the Lex Fridman podcast with Lee Cronin and his thoughts on Origin of Life. It was nice for a social studies person like me to get an understanding of the complexity and importance of academic research like this. Overall your objective and informed approach to drugs and other social issues has been an inspiration to me.
….Gallimore interview is fine. Supporting A.Weil?? Nahh. Andy is(or was) a homophobic scumbag who is responsible for Dr.Richard Alpert being FIRED from Harvard. Weil also supported aerial based poisoning of Coca, Poppy & FOOD! crops in S.America & Mexico in the 1990’s!! Mycoherbicides. Jonathan Ott & Jeremy Bigwood have direct experience with this as they fought against Weil & Stamets likely Darpa funded attempt at Agent Orange part two in South America-Mexico!!
I love your explanation of how and why we see color. It actually explains for those who may not have known, how during psychedelic experiences on certain substances, one can see colors they have never seen before, colors that "Don't exist" and such, due to our perception of the external stimuli changing.
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The intro to this podcast is the drug saftey information we should have received in school.
Hamilton is quite possibly the best at LISTENING to his guest!!!!
Worked all day, have to work tomorrow, and just finished doing school work so I can get ahead in my field. Seeing another interview posted is such an amazing treat right now.
Yeah, "get ahead" in a "field". And don't be surprised when you're homeless.
@@BennieTarrMusic living in a can down by the river? Lol please don’t confuse my drive to be able to practice and learn more as an attempt to further myself into this stupid virtual reality called capitalism. If I lose my house tomorrow I can feed myself, mend myself to some degree, and protect myself ontop of having education and training. Sorry for whatever you are going through/went through that drove you to post that and I hope it has or will turn around.
@@korygurman6638 nice. You handles that well bri
Working so hard and studying ! Good for you 👏 👏 👏
Psilocybin, LSD, shrooms and ketamine are absolutely life changing substances that have so much potential to help people with mental health issues.
You can't overdose on mushrooms alone . You can definitely eat the wrong mushroom and get poisoning from that, but no one has ever died from psilocybin OD
@@juttaclemons5002 How can I locate him? If he's on IG?
@@bizffatar5824 Yeah he's dr.jackshroom🥰
@@vickiebeaver6843They got great psychedelic products which brings peace of mind.🥰.!!
But they're not invariably good, and there is a limit to where they are helpful vs where they become unhelpful or even harmful. One should not use hallucinogens for instance if they have had psychosis, derealization, etc.
Been expectantly waiting for more content. Depression and Anxiety are a struggle, but your content provides much needed intellectual stimulation and proves to be a worthy distraction from my personal issues. Thank you for all you’ve done and will do, Hamiltón. (As Eric Andre once said your name in a Spanish accent😂)
@George Strait I have reported you to UA-cam as well as Local Law Enforcement for trying to sell illicit narcotics online.
@@superstar5123 Come on, man. It's George Strait. He's obviously a trustworthy source.
@@colt4505 🤣🤣😂😂
@@chaoticatmos1461👉😂👉
@@colt4505 I fucking hate these UA-cam comment spammer scammers lol
1:37:33 -- FINALLY!! I've heard someone with a scientific/neurological background speak power to a realization I had while tripping. I get the feeling that my conscious experience itself is the final output of my organism. This is opposed to how I used to feel, which is that I was actually observing my experience from my thinking mind.
But are you not observing to build the output. Maybe it acts like a debugger, I don't know if u code but it makes sense in my head
Debugger lets u view the code while its running btw
@@bubzuru I'm speaking about my conscious experience as whole, which seems like this "debugger" is clearly a very big part. What I'm tying to say is that I used to see this "debugger" as something that, at some level, was controlling the actions. The feeling I have now is that this "debugger" is actually the final product of the organism...i.e. self-consciousness. The key difference is that the "debugger" seems to be purely observing; perpetually commenting on what has already taken place, but unable to affect any changes.
@@WishfulCreation very interesting? As in observing its own creation for any purpose? Biologically?
@@equiles I'm not sure I follow your question. If I am following, you're asking if awareness is observing its own creation? My response is that awareness cannot create anything, it is the result of creation and therefore is creation itself. It's the tip of the needle of consciousness. Also, there's some confusion in language here -- awareness cannot observe anything. To be aware is to observe. So, asking if awareness is observing its own creation is a redundant question. Awareness is something like a state of being and action at once, which we don't really have a word for.
Andrew and team's DMTx research and experimentation is the most interesting and exciting project I've heard about since Strassman's original stuff at Albuquerque, truly some pioneering stuff. It's true what they say that it's impossible to really imagine what that might be like to spend HOURS in that state, that's gonna be absolutely nuts if it does stabilize at some point. I'm just thinking what if after you pass the point that it typically wears off it suddenly stabilizes and the entities are suddenly understandable. Their goal of using it as a tool to learn things that can be brought back to solve problems in our world is a great idea, as well!
The media will say "new club drug poisoning our children".
pioneer? just cause some colonists do it its new? nah this is ancient and has its methods. Nothing they say about the realm is remotely profound. All the time in that state yet nothing to show for it except for typical trip reports and surface crap everyone knows. They come back with nothing but a few frames of memory and talk like they have any answers. They dont call out their daddies in government censoring this medicine and lick ass for a living. No honor or morals like the culture they derive from. A turd doesnt become a man just because they take dmt for long periods of time.
I tested full lotus third eye qigong meditation against DMT and Salvia Divinorum. The Qi energy overrides the electrochemical energy just as D.M. Turner proved the DMT elves are figments of the electrochemical energy - he combined Salvia with DMT and the "elves" were dismantled. hahahhaa.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885hahah I need to try this
YES. I am so glad you have Andrew Gallimore on your show. I started reading his book Alien Information Theory last year and it's a difficult read. So it's nice to have him on so a more relaxed conversation about the subject matter can occur.
Thank you Hamilton.
If human perception is limited by the natural constraints that exist within the human sense making apparatus, leading to interpretations that are cultural and archetypical, how can we then use the features of a DMT experience as evidence of external reality - is seems like some kind of circular reasoning where you can’t have it both ways. All we can say is that the DMT state is completely constructed by the brain, like all other brain states
Both of you are such a pleasure to listen to. We're always in dire need of access to strong, bright minds and it's amazing how much this level of discourse continues to develop on UA-cam. Psyched to get hold of Andrew's books and to subscribe to his substack. Thank you, Hamilton.
what are the titles of his books?
Loving that propofol mug! Thanks for posting these podcasts on UA-cam 🙏
This video deserves a ton of views, very in-depth, it was a pleasure listening 🎧 hope to see more like this!
Hamilton AND Andrew?! Two of my favorite psychedelic authorities together at last 🙏
I honestly think you both are likely to score a Nobel prize at some point
And we will all be so horrified that “we used to BAN these substances”
Don't know about Nobel price but they'll surely score some really potent DMT 🤣🤣
Hamilton has the best voice in the universe if you ask me 🥇
By far the best nasally one to replace the wonderful Terrence McKenna whom left us so early
Is "pineapple juice" your safeword?
this is such a fulfilling, rich and satisfying conversation to hear. Pondering the information my senses take in is a fun pass time. Color, light, smell, sound, touch, emotion. These are all things that have a quantum world that don't reflect our wider perspective. I feel like knowing some of this can help people with depression, and find the beauty and wonder in being alive at all.
I miss the old days let's go smoke crack
@@BennieTarrMusiclove smoking crystalline substances
Dr. Gallimore's model of how tropane alkaloids work is fully compatible with my experience with them
This technology could be more profound for society than having a real inception dream machine. Fascinating interview can't wait to see where dmtx goes.
Inception messed me up for a long time. i couldnt stop fantasizing the idea of shared dreaming between friends. . .
believe it or not a variable frequency drive set to 40 hz with an attached module to step down voltage and amperage attached to contacts on your skin will reliably induce lucid dreams.
WHAT A GREAT INTERVIEW!!!! Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pick....., WILL ALWAYS WELCOME YOU !!
I'm down like a DMT Clown.
Out on a solo canoe now, good to hear you Hamilton, very articulate pleasure to listen , awesome
I don't know who would be a good guest for this, but I'd love to see an episode with a focus on deliriants! They don't seem very interesting pharmacologically (at least the normal ACh inhibitors) but they are some of the most psychotropically interesting drugs in my opinion!
I met Hamilton in person while he was in Philadelphia less than a year ago at 43rd and Baltimore. He had visted my favorite local cafe, near the park I grew up playing soccer in. Hamilton didn't know how much he made my afternoon on my way to do Doordash in Center City, but I do hope his lectures at (FKA)University of the Sciences and Pharmaceuticals went well and I wish i could have sat in and heard him speak. Thank you Hamilton for that awkward warm encounter.
Hamiltons voice is so soothing to go to sleep to.
I use his videos en interviews for asmr purposes
It's like falling asleep in chemistry class just wayyy better. It let's me dream about whatever the vids on.
Great interview! I can't tell you how happy I got seeing the Anadenanthera model on your bookcase shelf.
Hey Hamilton Morris, Jesus here, just wanted to say you are doing a fine job and I approve of you. I'll be watching you (contstantly) to make sure you keep spreading the "Good News." See ya!
Wtf?
@@chaoticatmos1461 Jesus!
This is all fascinating to one with a blind silent mind. The idea of psychedelics and seeing things that were not there always put me off. I never knew you all see stuff in your imaginations without it!
Hamilton please keep this up. I appreciate you and your content. Would love more seasons of Hamilton's Pharmacopeia as well. Thank you!🙏
Vice owns it.
I like the ad breaks, contrary to most.
Ive thought i might be jesus for a long time and ive been dreading having to get tortured for everyone so thank you for the reassurance
thanks for what you do, Hamilton. I really enjoyed the introductory rant. The thing about hallucinations is that they're metaphors for our lived understanding of reality, and may reveal something about reality, but they're not reality itself. I have some schizoaffective disorder and i mainly have cognitive hallucinations (i never have had visual hallucinations, even with psychedelics. i'm myopic in this world, and blind in that other world, apparently). So the important thing is to integrate what you hallucinate (an immediate, impersonal insight) into your personal life. To remember that you do still exist as a person, even if society is an illusion. That you're a human, even if "human" is not an essence but a set of occurrences of an evolved complex system, completely embedded with its environment. That you're Jesus, but only in the sense that he was a human equally to you, and you shouldn't envy or begrudge him for being a prophet: he's not a higher-status outgroup whom you can't relate to, or join; you have the potential to do the same thing as he, and gain some kind of familiarity with the divine. you just need to do it sincerely, not for your own gain
Jesus never existed.
How different is schizoaffective to full blown schizophrenia? I have a friend who's really lost himself. You sound so much more grounded than him. I'd like to talk to you if that's okay.
@@chaoticatmos1461 it still has psychotic symptoms (keywords solipsism and alienation) but it's in a way less intense because it's more focused on the emotional meaning of events and mood than in the semantic meaning of messages. But it's not exactly "less schizophrenic", like it's not a 1 dimensional quantifiable axis, just like ASD. There are still logic-defying weird beliefs and lenses you look at the world through, and impulses which drive your behaviour, thoughts and emotions in a way that can simply be not true or useful, or simply that are just in your head. which is why it then turns pathological as it provokes distress and less than optimal function overall, its harder to fulfill duties and schedules than somebody else would, and in the end social prejudice and a real difficulty in communicating and fitting in interactions in a way that works. I think for 6 months to a year, 2 or 3 years ago, i might have been more schizophrenic simply because i was more emotionally stable and fulfilled, i had a more solid friend group and social security net, i was younger and with fewer mistakes attributable to myself only. As of recent, it's been heavily emotional, so closer so schizoaffective, and it coincides with me having to admit my life plans at university wouldn't work out (after persevering for 3 years with little results, due to this condition but also generally bouts of depression and anxiety, stress from moving out and badly fitting in with my flatmates, then grief and heartbreak for specific events. This tied to my field of study, philosophy and psychology, which instead of solving existential crises, dysfunctions and personality disorders, only gave me a clearer picture of what is wrong with me lmao, which was increasingly harder to cope with. These weren't necessarily all at the same time, nor do they each deserve a diagnosis on their own. My point is that there are components of each distinctly saturated disorder in almost every other one, because psychopathologies are a very narrow subset of human behaviour which is still very much aligned to human behaviour generally. We all have more in common than . Schizophrenia is the folly to disregard narrow filters. And so these different categories of symptoms are not reducible by statistics to a pure, origin centered cloud of points in 3 dimensions. We're far from the origin, 13.8 billion light years away.
Anyway, those syndromes all interact and it's hard to pinpoint what causes what. If something is given by the pathology or by the personality. Mood may point to depression, but also social chronic failure, which is not depression and may depend on anxiety or on a root personality disorder (loosely; you could call it a flaw). Etc. People are complicated and the disorder they have is not an external virus getting in and festering, it's a 1 to 1 mapping of their situation in the world, through the filter of their values and beliefs, in a feedback loop with everybody else, aka it's the phenotype of mind and cosmos interacting through their body. That's how I see it anyway. We have no idea what schizophrenia truly is because we don't know what the universe is. We have a neuroscience of reductionism which guarantees nothing against a mind philosophy of emergence, and who is even thinking of what role quantum mechanics allows as possible explanation for schizophrenia, except non-psychiatrists like Dr Gallimore and Thomas Campbell?
Sorry for the rant. I hope this was interesting, useful, or even amusing to you
Begging your pardon, but what is a 'cognitive hallucination'?
@@BarackObamaJedii read what you wrote twice, i’m sorry I think you delved too much into what reality is. Take a step back, enjoy it in an ape’y way.
I also had a somewhat unexpected and proundly zen/ psychedelic experience with muscmol combined with 5htp.I meditated a whole day by with open eyes listening and sensing every small thing around me.What I found so beautiful was I were so conscious and aware I were in this particular state.I were able to perceive all the things that occur without us noticing in our regular mind states.Incredibly refreshing and highly recommended!😐🙏🌌🌠
Totally makes sense, and seems aligned. Nice to hear scientists chime in and take us through their process of trying to understand these world model disruption processes. Very interesting
Thank you for everything you do sir, you are extremely important!
What a time to be alive
“Avoid being Jesus at all costs” only Hamilton could create the context to make this statement a stern but loving piece of parental advice.
Hallucinations are the real reality, bro! Hahahaha I don't think I've ever heard you talk like that before hamilton I just almost peed myself laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
very good guest thank you for introductions and the insights! i am currently studying bioinformatics and have had the delight to have cognitive neuroscience and the subjects of matter and I am doing a research of my own in the category. Good vid
Great interview. Thank you, Hamilton and Gallimore.
the reframing of different phenomenological experiences as adaptive representations of reality vs maladaptive representations seems like such a nice tool going forward in science/philosophy. for ex, Donald Hoffman, Andres Emilsson work could be interpreted to have some similar themes. hopefully these sort of "meta-phenomenological" programs provide some juice
The psytrance artists are gonna have their day with this one
Fascinating!!
Anesthesiologists will find this DMT study intriguing. I did.
That would be wild, instead of asking how long you were out thinking it felt instant, you’d be asking that because you felt like you were gone forever 😂
Look up Stuart Hameroff and Roger Penrose work together. Their work along with his should be linked. In my opinion.
Issue with the beginning: What would be the impetus for complex molecules to evolve and doesn’t that contradict entropy? I’m not sure evolution makes sense on either level imo.
Issue with the middle: The whole model about how hallucinogens work on the brain I think needs to be reconsidered. I’m talking about the whole model where you’re considering different ways the brain can construct this realm so quickly and elaborately and one theory you mentioned was that in dream states we are already building it in our subconscious… But suppose the job of the brain is not to *create* but instead to *filter* - In that case, various hallucinogenic drugs that work on different parts of the nervous system would affect the ability of the filter to work in various ways but still have common themes. With this theory the biggest pill to swallow for materialist scientists is that the realm, the entities, the lies and dogma all of it is actually around us all the time but the brain was built to filter it out.
Well to say this was inspirational is a vast understatement. Throughout the course of this video, you and Dr Gallimore have provided me with a very deep interest into the way our brain interacts with these substances. Before watching this video I had never considered pursuing any type of education in chemistry, i was always fascinated by psychedelics but never considered how I could actually apply my life to them.. besides experiencing them that is haha. Like you said near the end, a lot of people in the psychedelic community are in it simply for the trip or just something to get high off of, but I want nothing more than to expand my knowledge of psychedelics and in general the chemistry of our world. Not only have I purchased Dr. Gallimores book but I have reached out to my local university in hopes of getting an education in chemistry. This video has single handedly inspired me enough to change the direction of my life and to pursue this. I’m excited to see where this takes me and I’m even more excited to learn everything I can about the building blocks of our reality. Thanks for the work you guys have done and sharing it with the rest of the world
You should follow up every 6 months
Regarding personal vs universal, it is by dividing out the personal factors if only statistically, that we can describe the phenomenal space as a mode of consciousness. By doing so, we can progress towards the discovery of the invariants of consciousness, a necessary step in solving the hard problem.
Interesting bit about the molecular neruroplasticity within the cortex columnar networks as the basic biological mechanism for having the default reality model altered.
Great interview and discussion 👍
this is so much more entertaining than instagram reels
I experienced DMT several times in a single night. The only way I can explain it is that it feels like what a baptism should be. Idk if that makes sense but it's how I feel about it. Greatest thing I've ever experienced and it literally changed who I am.
Thank you both for that inspiring dialogue. I watched his psychedelics and the brain course in UA-cam a couple of years ago and understanding how the brain constructs reality has completely changed the way I perceive the world!
Thanks, but I extracted my own dmt
just as I'm heading to sleep ... better be here in the morning
Yo, this is literally the only channel I have notifications for. I love and admire how responsibly you discuss psychedelics even though you are clearly so biased toward them.
I can recommend you to where I get my stuff from an online store his got his got Shrooms, psychedelics, alongside other products well Refined ships to anywhere discreetly.
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I must admit I jumped right to the DMT parts and it was a bit underwhelming. I thought Dr. Andrew was going to reveal some new information but obviously were only at Step. 1.
These scientific experiments should have happened decades ago, but better late than never. Nonetheless, keep it up Hamilton, I can never get enough of you.
Yes I feel exactly the same way. Pretty much everything mentioned here I've already read before, years ago. We're at a point in history where taking the stuff tells us more about what it's doing than what science can. This is why I love McKenna so much; he'll throw out ideas based on his direct experience. Right or wrong, I appreciate his willingness to put his credibility on the line by revealing what his experiences have shown him. I've used mushrooms and DMT with the express interest in solving the problem of what might be happening under the influence of these things, and without boring people with my personal findings, I will say one of the messages I've gotten is that I must use them as tools if I want to find clues about what they're doing, life/death, reality, time, and other existential matters. This is the point of their existence. I can't help but feel like researching these substances instead of doing them is like researching about the mechanics of sex instead of just having it. They are two totally different things. You can research until you're blue in the face and have every scientifically technical answer in the world, but you'll never get close to the actual experience or what the experience is really trying to show you.
@@johnvalencia9927 That's a very powerful point of view, and it's definitely in line with Mckenna's treasuring of "direct experience". I agree with everything you just said, and these are definitely interesting tools for exploring reality!
Happy Gallimore! Great stuff ta.
When it comes to psychedelics, I'm not sure whether I need to consult my Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
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I really loved the introductory rant. Spot on
Two minutes in, and he is re-writing what I thought was reality
I will never forget my DMT trip. I met a field of deities looking like the multi limbed Hindu goddess types. Down to my right, as it was a Mandelbrot set of them, one looked at me through her third eye. The wave of red made me just fall in love, but I still asked for my big brother who I lost. Another wave of red, for the rest of the trip, I repeatedly exalted the beauty of her....I think it was me. ❤️I for one, would only love to go back.....but you said no volunteers! Lol
If you've been there enough times you might have noticed that time does not exist in hyperspace. I've never felt limited by that particular dynamic of the experience, especially seen as it seems capable of downloading huge quantities of information instantaneously what i'd be most concerned about is how he possibly hopes to assimilate it all? That takes "time", more time than you have.
I've heard so many wonderful things about magic mushrooms but I can't easily get some, Is there any realiable source I can purchase from??
I'm so interested in the experience but am terrified of having a bad trip
I did two grams last time, it was a thrilling experience and I enjoyed it
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Sells psych's
This whole thing is pretty new to me, can I try 3grams?
@@Dwayne638 where to search? Is it IG ??
I think it is time for all these top scientists exploring consciousness, reality and alternate states to get together: Hamilton, Andrew, Rick, Don Hoffman, Bernardo Kastrup, Sidarta Ribeiro, Eduardo Schenberg?
They do at psychedelics conferences. There is a big one in Denver June 19-23.
@@56Hoperoad69 I didn't mean that. One more psychedelics conference and talking just about psychedelics. What I meant is finding the areas where those studies intercect and try to come up with a collaborative explanation for this shit show that is reality and together make the theory mainstream. There is no reason for spending money on rockets, space or whatever if we don't figure out consciouness.
Refreshing to see the ratio of ppl who understand the "jesus" reference to the zealously offended is so healthy here. Fantastic interview
Love all the work you're doing and thank you for having a curiosity and a willingness to share
This was great. Both of you guys really made this special. Good work.
I've lived with teenager "fry babies" who abused psychs and had very horrible life.kong problems. Like angry evil gnomes that told him to hurt himself. Etc. You have to respect these things or you can truly hurt yourself. Test be safe. Don't over do a potential great things and make it a negative thing.❤ Please ❤❤
What I'd give to make Hamilton a cuppa and have his time for 2 hours in my study.
Absolutely fascinating, Hamilton. ❤
One of the greatest scholars of our time. Thanks Hamilton
1:40:47 the discussion of DMTx starts here
The algorithm serves and I am grateful 🙏🏼✨
This is a fire podcast… thank you
Hamilton, thank you for all the wisdom you share with us and the world.
Andrew is the GOAT!
Also, if you've not watched his Psychedelics and the Brain Master Course series on UA-cam *at least twice* what are you even doing with your life?!?
After my Ayahuasca experiences I have come to believe that what I witnessed was the mathematical source code of nature, beneath the user interface of physical reality.
We all know that mathematics is the language of nature and the universe, I think the geometry we see when on psychedelics are expressions of this.
Weather its outside of the mind, or inside of the mind also to me is a redundant question - everything is experienced through the 'mind'. And no experience you ever have will be the full truth, that's too big and in a state of change anyway. Any of it is only ever a glimpse.
Its just a theory - but it makes sense to me and actually sits somewhere between 'spiritual' ideas and scientific understanding to this point.
'avoid being Jesus at all costs'
ua-cam.com/video/x3xueXaG2rI/v-deo.html start at 2:09
Don't be Jesus
XD such a profound yet silly thing to say
Great interview, so excited to see dmtx trip reports or mission logs in the future.
As someone who has seen the shapes and stuff, I personally think it brings you to the primitive state of your brain that can’t distinguish complex shapes. Like instead of seeing a leaf you see a rectangle with triangle on the edges, and so on. Primitive brain could only see shapes, which is why unnatural right angles changed the way our brains worked and pushed us into a new eras. I think DMT brain is primitive brain, and the entities are extremely complex brain thoughts of primitive manifestations of our first egos
I felt that way about lsd, but dmt seems like something a little more than that going on
You didn’t smoke enough, dmt shows me complex fractal geometry. Also opens up the doors of creativity
@@eggheadusa yes because everything is a million shapes. Davincis man, the flower of life. Primitive brain can only see that and not the prominent shapes bore from semblance of matter, you just see everything all at once and your brain can’t comprehend
Thanks for the colab with Wookie! 🤗
I miss extracting DMT! Was my favorite hobby in high school. Everything feels much more dangerous now with all this surveillance 😅
Just do it
@@chaoticatmos1461 who are u talking to?
If you're so paranoid, don't admit things here lol
A lot of the things you buy online to extract it are legal! It's a matter of knowing your rights and being smart once you start
That's how I feel about things such as mushrooms, Ayahuasca, etc.
Buying the things to make/grow these things are legal in many places (can never say all of course). What you do after is up to you, if you catch my drift
@@chaoticatmos1461 33~
_"Avoid being Jesus, at all costs"_ - H Morris
words to live by!
I will refer u to an online vendor,he ships in discreetly
7:14 I laughed out loud for real
As a computer scientist the way I've answered these questions in a Layman's way is using computer science analogies.
Groups of neuron activity correspond to perceptions, i think they can be like perception groups where each perceptual unit corresponds to different neuron activity groups. Like classes. Some correspond to placement, like size, hardness, beingness, depth, width, height, relative height, proximity, etc. Others correspond to social perceptions, like person, intelligence, being watched, a face, relation, proximity of person, identity, danger, safety, etc. And some others relate to sensory perceptions like temp, solid, vibration, color, liquidity, touch, unit/separation, etc. Amongst millions of other things, and they're all interconnected and build realities when going off in conjunction.
A limited group of neurons may be a vibe, if you add some other groups of neurons it may turn into a notion, yet more is a mental image. Add a whole lot of neuron group activations and eliminate others and now you're really experiencing a sunset on a beach. Each group or groups of neuron activities corresponding to a perceptual element/unit (not necessarily in an additive way).
DMT and other psychedelics activate and deactivate neurons groups in the brain in a certain way producing specific realities. Maybe there are chain reaction or oscillating activation, complex feedback, etc.
Of course the real question you guys are dealing with is how this all actually happens in the brain and how drugs relate to it.
I also think there needs to be a distinction made between the hallucinatory states you experience in the midst of psychdelia and ones you see in the case of maladaptive pathologies. The ones you experience in psychedelia are isolated in a sense. They are "psuedohallucinations". Perhaps the most salient part of the psychedelic experience is that you are acutely or at least tacitly aware that you are experiencing something that is not the "world you are used to". However, in something like schizophrenia, you have no sense of the real world, no barometer to compare the realness of your sensory experience to. This is the difference. The relative realness of the schizophrenic hallucination is much higher than that of the psychedelic hallucination because you no longer have a bearing of the real world to compare the hallucination to at all.
Having psychosis is much closer to a delerium
Fitting comment for the username lmao
Well put. I describe the hallucinatory thoughts, ideas, emotions, and visions experienced in the psychedelic state as being state-bound. Afterward you come down, you're able to "entertain" these certain experiences and compare them to your normal everyday experience. Some of the content can be useful in reorienting your own world-view in a more positive light, and some of the content can also be irrelevant, false, or negative in some way. However, since they're state bound, you'll come down and be able to assess these experiences in a sober state. During active psychosis, there's no comparison. You don't just entertain the notion of some paranoid fantasy, you believe it to be real, or ever "realer" than reality.
If you have any research of DMT affects on a blind individual, I am extremely interested in this particular topic.
Blind since birth would be ideal.
Something interesting I’ve seen with ketamine as a vet tech: not every animal but some, appear to be in a k-hole or deep salvia trip. Opening and closing their eyes, delayed reactions/ no reactions, but more interestingly unsolicited vocalization/reactions. Dodging, diving, and “talking” to nothing. Im not entirely convinced they are having a psychedelic experience but like to joke when I explain why I’m not worried about what has been taught to me as normal post op recovery when using ketamine
as a person who has been on a lot of ket and fentanyl in a trauma ward for 2 1/2 months they are having some insane dreams. the ket does it and some of them are absolutely like the most despair a person ever woke up from..and some are pretty nice. But i clearly remember making a nurse tell me that everything was ok outside there was still a world..nothing wrong and he told me that he sees it a lot so i wasnt feeling like such a muppet.
@@robertsleight2846 they're giving you fentanyl too?
@@robertsleight2846 yeah the dissociative mind is insane… ive had some crazy experiences on salvia and dxm
@@minddweller dxm is a rare one in australia i used to extract it and make a white crystaline powder which i believe changed to dextopine during the process and titration to produce the precip and it is pretty neat. like i dont like to tell people i like dubstep but at the time it seemed magic. salvia i have never done...a lot of dmt and many people draw similarity in experience so obviosly nuttin to fuck with. yeah homes the dissociative mind is a maze huh? go forth peeps
maybe k hole yourself sometime
xdddd the commercial spot in the beginning
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Fantastic interview. Would be interesting to see Mr. Morris speak to Edwin C. May, former director of the US Government's Stargate Project on anomalous cognition.
Excellent talk. I as well did not have the heart to toss out the woven top of my old IKEA lamp.