Why Fatal Frame III: The Tormented is Secretly Genius

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2024

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  • @RagnarRoxShow
    @RagnarRoxShow  3 роки тому +516

    Addendum:
    1) Since people are asking: I hadn't planned to cover further games in the series, but I'm not saying it couldn't happen. It's a thing I certainly considered, that's not *planned* at the moment but that I might just get around to one day, we'll see.
    2) I am incredibly sorry and embarrassed that I, somehow while making this video got a mnemonic twist in my brain and started referring to the protagonist as Rei Amakura instead of Rei Kurosawa.🙇
    This hurts my soul, haha...I totally have been aware that her last name is Kurosawa since I always found it cool that her last name was a nod to Kiyoshi Kurosawa, director of Kairo(Pulse) who heavily inspired the series - but somewhere during production I must have had gotten twist in my brain from "Kei Amakura" sounding so similar and neither I nor 2 people copy-editing the script ever once noticed it in the past weeks. Very strange indeed.
    I have to take it with a laugh, but it's... painful. My Apologies.🤣

    • @Juantífico
      @Juantífico 3 роки тому +6

      Indeed I hope you cover Fatal Frame 4 and 5 in the future, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on them!

    • @LeshaAnn
      @LeshaAnn 3 роки тому

      Ummm... Most film buffs would go with AKIRA first, when name-checking their favorite influential Kurasawas, but hey, you do *you,* Pal! 🤣

    • @venomstar6789
      @venomstar6789 3 роки тому

      team ninja said that they have something in the works for a 20 anniver for fatal frame

    • @Kirby-Krios
      @Kirby-Krios 3 роки тому +2

      regardless. Thanks for doing another Fatal Frame video! ^_^

    • @chiyoko7925
      @chiyoko7925 3 роки тому +2

      A video covering Fatal Frame IV would be pretty awesome, especially considering how difficult it is to get an English version of and the influences brought in from Suda 51's Kill the Past Trilogy.

  • @BoarSin
    @BoarSin 3 роки тому +338

    the last thing rei said at the end of the game is so beautiful that even now i still get emotional every time i hear her say it: "i'll go on living, even with the pain"

    • @Chris_MarMar
      @Chris_MarMar 3 роки тому +35

      Rei is by far the best Fatal Frame protagonist imo and I absolutely agree that her final line is beautiful. Hell, the entire game is beautiful, especially the ending.

    • @Nipah.Auauau
      @Nipah.Auauau 2 роки тому +15

      me after eating taco bell

    • @Chris_MarMar
      @Chris_MarMar Рік тому +3

      @@Yayofangamer16 she’s still the best character even with the newer games imo.

    • @Natasha-ew6qu
      @Natasha-ew6qu Місяць тому

      I honestly think that was something Reika should have definitely heard, along with all those people whose pain she had to take on.

  • @ProperBird
    @ProperBird 3 роки тому +779

    "You can pet the cat in Fatal Frame III: The Tormented."

    • @arkadiusztrzesniewski4237
      @arkadiusztrzesniewski4237 3 роки тому +45

      Sounds hilarious XD But it makes sense...Actually, game is thus well balanced. Petting animals is well known way of releasing tension during prolonging psychological stress...

    • @rudyramadhana4127
      @rudyramadhana4127 3 роки тому +16

      Yes, if the cat is not sleeping

    • @tympestbooks1727
      @tympestbooks1727 3 роки тому +4

      Instant 10/10

    • @StalkerSempai
      @StalkerSempai 3 роки тому +6

      I do this when I see scary shit inside the house XDDD just to calm my scared ass

    • @rudyramadhana4127
      @rudyramadhana4127 3 роки тому +3

      @@StalkerSempai and suddenly the TV turns on, Rei doesnt seem to be affected in any way tho

  • @Cirquet
    @Cirquet 3 роки тому +478

    This game really got me. Does anyone remember that part where a pair of legs just randomly appears in the closet in Rei's house? After playing for a while, I saw them out of the corner of my eye, just for a second, then when I looked closer they were gone. Seriously thought I was going insane because why would there be legs there? It makes no sense. I don't think there's been another game that made me question my own sanity like that.

    • @Chris_MarMar
      @Chris_MarMar 3 роки тому +39

      I remember that. To be fair I don't think there's any part of this game I forgot. Fatal Frame 3 is my favorite in the series.

    • @chetawesomelaser
      @chetawesomelaser 3 роки тому +48

      That was the first instance of a scare that wasn't thrown in your face, and noticing it absolutely blew my mind. I put the controller down for like 5 minutes just collecting myself afterwards.

    • @vagelismihalis7426
      @vagelismihalis7426 3 роки тому +36

      Also in the mansion sometimes faces show up in the walls,and the game don't inform you or point you to see,is really disturbing
      Also some dead people under the sheets that start singing or talk through the game,is really fucked up

    • @StalkerSempai
      @StalkerSempai 3 роки тому +6

      Yes. when you enter viewfinder mode, it vanishes forever. I hate it XD

    • @CrxyLinda
      @CrxyLinda 3 роки тому +4

      I had to look it up to make sure i really saw it and i wasnt just going crazy xD lol

  • @no.402
    @no.402 3 роки тому +483

    This series is so underrated and needs a return.

    • @RagnarRoxShow
      @RagnarRoxShow  3 роки тому +73

      Agreed

    • @bricktea3645
      @bricktea3645 3 роки тому +3

      @@RagnarRoxShow talk about the underrated indie game called RainWorld.

    • @tyrant-den884
      @tyrant-den884 3 роки тому +5

      Hey, it inspired a Totem challenge in Pokémon.
      For whatever that is worth.

    • @LuciferHellwathcer
      @LuciferHellwathcer 3 роки тому +4

      true, but there is a highly inspired one like dread out

    • @no.402
      @no.402 3 роки тому +4

      @@LuciferHellwathcer
      I played the first DreadOut and wasn't impressed tbh.
      It severely lacked gameplay polish and writing.

  • @jameswebb966
    @jameswebb966 3 роки тому +387

    "It's raining again..."

    • @grimmbreak
      @grimmbreak 3 роки тому +11

      Goddamit miku

    • @DJHEADPHONENINJA
      @DJHEADPHONENINJA 3 роки тому +31

      this one line of dialog... I still hear it every now and then 15 years later when I look out the window and it's pouring.

    • @jameswebb966
      @jameswebb966 3 роки тому +5

      @@DJHEADPHONENINJA Same!

    • @DoihaDX
      @DoihaDX 3 роки тому +7

      this was a running joke with a friend lol

    • @TheWorldAdventure
      @TheWorldAdventure 3 роки тому +8

      I quote this all the time and people have no idea haha

  • @ronaldcharan2705
    @ronaldcharan2705 3 роки тому +179

    The tormented is very underrated. Scared me more than the first two. Especially the home exploration parts.

    • @awkwardity5615
      @awkwardity5615 3 роки тому +10

      I'm having flashbacks to hand under bed, window kid and attic woman

    • @reostars00
      @reostars00 3 роки тому +4

      agree. Everytime I see the bathroom mirror always makes me feel uneasy

    • @LoneAries77
      @LoneAries77 2 роки тому +1

      Me too. It was like your eyes were tricking you. Really unsettling.

    • @antemlikota8760
      @antemlikota8760 2 роки тому +2

      And also those legs (i guess of Yuu) underneath the stairs behind those curtains, scared the living fuck out of me 🤣

    • @XicorVT
      @XicorVT 2 роки тому

      wish game you all think is the Scariest i say 3 and 4 the Hospital

  • @sinmenon4347
    @sinmenon4347 3 роки тому +63

    Fatal Frame III is my favorite in the series for a number of reasons: its deeply personal journey along with a refined game design and maps already make it a wonderful journey, but as stated it also brings the best aspects of the previous games and elevates them. My first experience with the game was, weirdly enough, enjoyed with friends: I was a FF1 veteran, while my best friend played only FF2, and we decided to play this game during a weekend. Even with company, it was such a haunting, heavy experience. At one point one of our friends decided to turn off the lights to enhance the experience and I had to turn it back on when I noticed my friend with tears of fear in her eyes -- and she had been playing horror games since the release of Resident Evil! This game is truly special.

  • @MsAquamonkey
    @MsAquamonkey 3 роки тому +132

    This game made me cry, and continues to do so. I adore it.

    • @gabe_liu9095
      @gabe_liu9095 3 роки тому +5

      the ending so touching

    • @vagelismihalis7426
      @vagelismihalis7426 3 роки тому +3

      The climax of the game is really emotional heavy for Rei and also for Reika

    • @A_YouTube_Commenter
      @A_YouTube_Commenter 3 роки тому +2

      The ending was powerful. On a Silent hill 2 level.

    • @mlancholia3920
      @mlancholia3920 3 роки тому +3

      true, i find the plot of fatal frame 3 beautiful. here we have rei a complex protagonist with troubled past and haunted by her ptsd along with survival’s guilt. as the story progress and reach climax, she eventually managed to overcome her past and continued to live on despite not fully healing from it. i find it beautiful and inspired me to be as strong as her.

  • @nyxaria8557
    @nyxaria8557 3 роки тому +84

    Finally a video dedicated to FF3 as much as I loved FF2, FF3 did not disappoint. They intertwined all the story from the previous games so well. Even if the Manor is your only area (aside the FF1 & 2 Areas) it still feels big and doesn't seem repetitve in quests. The story of being haunted by your dreams is true esp in Asian Culture. Here in the PH, its called "Bangungot", old people will warn those that their loved ones who recently died to not follow them in their dreams or they do not come back. I really loved all the other stories involved in the Manor, lot of fucked up ones like Sacrificial Pillars and Maidens.

    • @ComputerVHS
      @ComputerVHS 3 роки тому +2

      What if the loved one is a dog? Asking for myself.

    • @chunellemariavictoriaespan8752
      @chunellemariavictoriaespan8752 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@ComputerVHS Not sure... As when it happens, it's always our human loved ones...

  • @mothmanguile9141
    @mothmanguile9141 3 роки тому +41

    Glad to see somebody else thinks this game is amazing. It blew me away and I really honestly feel it is the best of the original three.
    I love all three, but this game did something I haven't seen many horror games do; rather than be about discovering a threat and defeating it, it dives into how hurt people are when they lose loved ones. The aftermath of that pain sets the background, and talks about how hard it is to stand back up knowing you could just decieve yourself and pretend it didn't happen.
    Love this game.

  • @thes7984
    @thes7984 3 роки тому +153

    Thank you for adding a time stamp for "sponsor", I hate to sit through two mini videos of 15 seconds just to start the video plus the mid intermissions of the same while you're watching and now the sponsors of the creators on top of that. Now with a time stamp we can just skip that. Thank you

    • @Gigamokin
      @Gigamokin 3 роки тому +10

      A bit selfish dont you think?, its what allows the videos to exist. Hate is a strong word for such a minor inconvinience.

    • @thes7984
      @thes7984 3 роки тому +4

      I think it's better to throw them a buck of two from time to time to help them but forcing you to sit through advertising that in 95% of the cases you don't care/need is asking the consumer for too much. And besides, the sponsor message it's still there you just now have the possibility of skipping it.

    • @Gigamokin
      @Gigamokin 3 роки тому +9

      @@thes7984 That's fine, but the attitude of "forcing you to watch" and "hate watching ads", that's what sounds selfish, but hey whatever.

  • @twinblademasta
    @twinblademasta 3 роки тому +81

    You never even mentioned how the ending led into the credits with the single most powerful song about the emotional journey of grief i've ever heard so perfectly. Koe is hands down Amano Tsuki's best work

    • @RagnarRoxShow
      @RagnarRoxShow  3 роки тому +8

      Absolutely agree!

    • @Madokakurusawa
      @Madokakurusawa 3 роки тому +4

      i love all fatal frames song! and all stukiko amanos song

  • @moonwolfyowane6183
    @moonwolfyowane6183 3 роки тому +58

    I find the manor of Sleep to the be the scariest place in the entire Fatal Frame series, due to one simple reason: The manor is in a dream world. Which means that people who have played the game could actually go to the manor of sleep in their own dreams as well. I have a few times and it was down right scary. Basically showing that the devs of Fatal Frame 3 made a world that is not only unforgettable but one that is impactful.

  • @lesteryaytrippy7282
    @lesteryaytrippy7282 3 роки тому +17

    I wanted the Holly and Snake tattoo as a tattoo back when I played this game but right now I'm still thinking about it. The whole Fatal Frame franchise before 4 was just genius.

  • @vabvaab
    @vabvaab 3 роки тому +26

    Favorite of the series for me, too. It just has a depth of character development that's unmatched.

  • @tuamigajordana
    @tuamigajordana 3 роки тому +18

    The fact that you could pet the cat was mindblowing back in the day.

  • @narutofangirl1213
    @narutofangirl1213 2 роки тому +9

    I remember when I first played this game years ago, it was my first fatal frame game and I was deep in a depressive episode. I remember quickly becoming obsessed. I had to solve the mystery, I had to walk deeper into the manor of sleep. I think I was obsessed with this game, because I was struggling with my own grief. It's still one of my comfort games.

  • @placefantasy1821
    @placefantasy1821 3 роки тому +9

    the sequence at 39:32 was exactly what I needed to see what you meant about the tone and anxiety inducing aspects of this game. Most horror games would leave it at the bloodied handprints and make the player think "uh oh, something has changed." but the way that as you look at the handprints and then two hands grabbed at the frame of the mirror and then crawled up to reveal the ghost managed to fill me with a fear that I rarely ever experience in horror games and would quickly be gone if it had been done via jumpscare. This game truly is a masterpiece in it's tone and pacing. That scene startled me by pushing my expectations and not finishing that sequence with just the handprints. It let the dread build in you and the fear grow as the ghost begins to move into frame. Absolutely brilliant.

  • @matthewmelange
    @matthewmelange 3 роки тому +89

    You get a thumbs up just for giving spoilers!
    Love it when people talk about a 16 year old game without caring if they spoil it.

    • @A_YouTube_Commenter
      @A_YouTube_Commenter 3 роки тому +1

      I played it. Everyone should.

    • @stolenname94
      @stolenname94 3 роки тому

      @@A_UA-cam_Commenter I'm about to my copy shows up tomorrow. Cost was pretty insane but hopefully it will increase more over time.

  • @yordimedina8879
    @yordimedina8879 3 роки тому +5

    I remember that i used to play this game at night. I stayed almost all night playing it and it took me a long time to complete it. I felt like rei in this game, feeling the nightmare alongside her, being by her side, seeing how long and extensive everything was, it kept going and going. I felt that nightmare was never going to end.
    I felt the game was endless, and her "it's raining again" always calmed me. Specially because in my real life some days were always rainy and were connected to the game. It was a really beautiful journey that I'll never forget. Thanks ragna for covering these series I really love all of your work.

  • @magicl381
    @magicl381 3 роки тому +19

    I needed a long interesting video, the timing was perfect thank you in advance!

  • @toriblackwood5920
    @toriblackwood5920 3 роки тому +9

    This was the scariest Fatal Frame for my best friend, my brother and me.
    And was because, the sanctuary that was the home, was beeing corrupted the more we advenced in the game, because has relatable caracters and has a lot of psicological horror, but the most important, because it make us go back to some the scariest places of the previous games. Is like, living a nightmare of a nightmare that you belive you had escaped.
    This is the most emotional Fatal Frame, and I love it.

  • @shibitoobscura3348
    @shibitoobscura3348 3 роки тому +34

    Once again, your analysis is pure gold that pays a fair homage to one of the greatest horror franchise ever made. You did an amazing job like for the previous ones.Thank you for, though your videos, keeping this series alive.

    • @shibitoobscura3348
      @shibitoobscura3348 3 роки тому

      @тαρ мє αи∂ ѕєχ ωιтн мє Riley Why a return? It didn't go anywhere, we got the recent port of the 5th entry in modern consoles and PC. I hope it will open the gate for a new sequel.

    • @Briizyo
      @Briizyo Рік тому

      Which is better between fatal frame ii, iii, siren and siren 2?

    • @shibitoobscura3348
      @shibitoobscura3348 Рік тому

      @@Briizyo My favourite is Project Zero 2 (Fatal Frame 2). I like the Wii remake but the original PS2 version is the best in my opinion.
      And I prefer Siren 2 over Siren 1. Siren 2, or Forbidden Siren 2 as it's titled here, is the best of the Siren franchise and one of the best Survival-horror ever to me.

    • @Briizyo
      @Briizyo Рік тому

      @@shibitoobscura3348 Yes, I play PS2 PAL version too, Forbidden Siren 2 is best atmospheric game ever. But i prefer Project Zero 3 over II bcz dreams system! Silent Hill: Shattered Memories is great too, best psychological thriller game ever, I love the chilling night exploration in the city! (Sorry for my bad english dude)

    • @shibitoobscura3348
      @shibitoobscura3348 Рік тому +1

      @@Briizyo Don't worry about your English, it's not my native language either (I'm French). I liked SH Shattered Memories and its pyschological approach as well, even though I much prefer the first four original Silent Hill games.

  • @Malkamok
    @Malkamok 3 роки тому +39

    "Fatal Frame is what Nintendon't" gave me a good chuckle. Nice throwback :D

  • @Chris_MarMar
    @Chris_MarMar 3 роки тому +54

    "You seem to be having a lot of nightmares lately. Are you alright?"

  • @GenerousHobo
    @GenerousHobo 3 роки тому +14

    I'm so glad someone is giving Fatal Frame III some much needed love.

  • @storyforeveryone
    @storyforeveryone 2 роки тому +3

    Glad to find your Fatal Frame series retrospective (and channel as a whole). I just finished playthrough of the PS2 trilogy couple days ago, and of my god... I had a blast with all three of them, but Fatal Frame 3 by far hit me like truck. It is undoubtedly now my most favourite horror game. Among all Resident Evil games, Silent Hill, Ku On, Rule of Rose, Haunted Ground, Clock Tower and many more, this one was a gut punch, gameplay, story, lore, atmosphere, exploration, side activities... there is so much, i just cannot stop thinking about this game and want to replay all three immediately, with all the new game+ bonuses they have.
    That is why im struggling and searching for any high quality Fatal Frame content on internet, and that's how i stumble onto your channel, bless.

  • @MinimusMaximus
    @MinimusMaximus 3 роки тому +44

    After Koei Tecmo's announcement of Ninja Gaiden trilogy collection for current gen consoles few days ago, I hope FF trilogy will be next. 🙌🏻

    • @brochebug
      @brochebug 3 роки тому +6

      I was just thinking the same honestly, especially if they include the Japan exclusive 4, Maiden of Black Water, and maybe the enhanced Wii port of 2. Not sure if those last three would be easy to port to platforms without motion control capabilities though...

    • @stefflee4501
      @stefflee4501 3 роки тому +2

      I just wish there's a fatal frame trilogy + 4 on the switch one day. Did i ask too much, tecmo? :((

    • @Juantífico
      @Juantífico 3 роки тому

      I hope they would release the complete FF pentalogy! 🙏

    • @bunsmasterbunny
      @bunsmasterbunny 3 роки тому +4

      @@brochebug The Wii version of 2 is not a port. It's a remake.

    • @antiparrot2483
      @antiparrot2483 3 роки тому +3

      One can hope, especially cus Nintendo’s done practically nothing with the series or almost nothing that hits the highs the original games did.

  • @Cheletiba
    @Cheletiba 3 роки тому +10

    I was never able to play FF3 despite my interest in the series. I was required in my teen years to watch the game play on a deffo-would-not-fly-now youtube playlist. I didn't think much of it then, in fact, I actively recoiled from it.
    Its only now, decades later and several neurological disorders such as depression
    diagnosed, that I come to really understand why I never gave that game the chance it so desperately deserved. I recognized myself in the tormented and did not like it. I looked into the abyss of pain and blinked.
    Sorry for the melodramatic post, but I felt the need to express my much abbreviated story and feelings about this game and video mini-series. Thank you for taking the time to unearth these gems and please, continue to bring these tales to the light.

    • @RagnarRoxShow
      @RagnarRoxShow  3 роки тому +4

      No, thanks for sharing! This is interesting to hear and definitely a very valid reason for intuitively feeling repulsed by a game. I've experienced something similar with other games in the past, where they were great, but subconsciously hit too close to home for comfort.

    • @Cheletiba
      @Cheletiba 3 роки тому

      @@RagnarRoxShow Very much so, in all of what you said. Thank you for the thought-filled response. c:

    • @tatikagila5057
      @tatikagila5057 2 місяці тому +1

      Your feelings are valid and your thoughts are appreciated. Grief and loss are sensitive subjects and you can opt to enjoy other art forms or appreciate the series from the sidelines. I don't know myself why I wasn't triggered by this series even though I've had dysthymic disorder (chronic depression) since I was 12. The only game that ever put me off for non-genre reasons (love fantasy and sci-fi) was Shadow of the Colossus because killing the beautiful and peaceful gentle giants reminds me too much of endangered animal species in real life.

  • @cammyboy011
    @cammyboy011 3 роки тому +12

    The sound design of this game is amazing!

    • @RagnarRoxShow
      @RagnarRoxShow  3 роки тому +3

      Absolutely stellar

    • @Chris_MarMar
      @Chris_MarMar 3 роки тому +3

      The whole series has amazing sound design. It's become a big thing for the series at this point 😅

  • @Hexentric8
    @Hexentric8 3 роки тому +23

    I played this game when I was like 11 years old, needless to say I never got past around the halfway mark cause it just became way too scary for me, wish I finished it cause it was amazing.

    • @professionalidiot3268
      @professionalidiot3268 Рік тому

      We're in the same shoes,,i was 10 when i playing this game for the first time but never end this game because its to scary for me,,but now im 23 and still got scared with this game 💀

    • @tiwitiwi6202
      @tiwitiwi6202 10 місяців тому

      rented this game during highschool and couldnt manage to finish it, now im 31 i was able to finish it (just few days ago). im now currently playing crimson butterfly

  • @Chris_MarMar
    @Chris_MarMar 3 роки тому +3

    The ending song, Koe, is also absolutely amazing

  • @LoneAries77
    @LoneAries77 2 роки тому +5

    Part 3 was my favorite too. It felt more mature and just scarier and the world blended in with reality. I felt like i was at home with rei and that really got me. The shower scene is iconic. The levels can be a bit confusing and there is some padding, but it’s just a really dark entry which is why i loved it. Plus miku is back!!

  • @TheSuperSpinD
    @TheSuperSpinD 3 роки тому +77

    This video is already amazing and I'm only five minutes in, but just one little heads-up: it's Rei Kurosawa, not Amakura lol

    • @RagnarRoxShow
      @RagnarRoxShow  3 роки тому +48

      Fuck. I just want to stick my head in the sand and leave it there indefinitely.

    • @TheSuperSpinD
      @TheSuperSpinD 3 роки тому +27

      @@RagnarRoxShow It's okay, we all make mistakes, I just finished the video and it was beautiful. I genuinely agree with nearly every word you said and this game really needs more attention. Here's hoping this video brings more light to its existence and thus more critical acclaim!

    • @WolfHero
      @WolfHero 3 роки тому +2

      Games like this don't exist anymore 😭

  • @NoxEternux
    @NoxEternux 3 роки тому +4

    I'm not one for posting comments but I had to express my appreciation for this video. Your earlier Fatal Frame videos introduced me to this channel and man I have to share. Fatal Frame 2 was my first entry to the series and my first real attempt at horror games. I lost; bad the fear and dread of the second game crippled me and I gave up. When I came across the third I chose to try again and man my blood froze when I got to see the areas from the second game; I persevered and managed to best the game and felt compelled to replay the second and play the first. I came to love the horror game genre wholly because of this series so I do truly appreciate someone giving it the attention it deserves; Well done :D

  • @1901jd
    @1901jd 3 роки тому +1

    hearing the enthusiasm in your voice for your ending statements is so fucking beautiful man. keep on doing you man , its obviously working. wish you all the best in your life

  • @sebastianoserafiniingiappone
    @sebastianoserafiniingiappone 3 роки тому +2

    You are the first creator who finally give this game the review this game deserves. Thank you so much

  • @ProfBrunoClemente
    @ProfBrunoClemente 3 роки тому +4

    How relatable the protagonist is makes me reflect on my whole life.
    Amazing video, as always !

  • @Jamafly
    @Jamafly 3 роки тому +5

    Fatal Frame 3 was the first one I played and instantly fell in love with the title.

  • @neoman285
    @neoman285 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for validating my childhood, and brilliant video! Reminds me of the days I would browse "Snowblood Apple" for J-horror films, and every film or game I got from Japan was like a treasure. Fatal Frame, Kuon, and Siren are just awesome.

  • @Hakury
    @Hakury 3 роки тому +10

    How to forget the song of the girls ... in addition to the reason for the suffering of the main ghost, it was not only revenge for wanting to live longer, it was that she could not bear to see his loved one die and not be able to do anything and still continue to see him and suffer eternally ... I love this game very much.

  • @DoihaDX
    @DoihaDX 3 роки тому +4

    This was my first FF and my favorite. Even though I didn't have the context at the time, I always thought it was neat how the mansion changed for every character. So when I played the others it was a surprise seeing the environments from FF3 there. Also, this was the game that introduced me to Amano Tsukiko, and that great song "Koe," such a fitting song for the game.

  • @awkwardity5615
    @awkwardity5615 3 роки тому +2

    I will never regret that this was the first out of the series that I picked up. The point you made about how Fatal III actually enhances the first two games rings so true, when me and my friends found the other games after feverishly completing this one, the entire lore, the tragically looping fate of the characters... it was already so firmly in our minds that everything felt incredibly meaningful and connected. Also personally I completely agree on how Rei is relatable to, well, tormented, neurodivergent creative folks... I already look forward to rewatching this along with the other essays you did on the series. Thank you for doing what you do!

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 3 роки тому +135

    It's kind of weird seeing a Japanese game being so actively and embracing being the third game in a series.

    • @jadak100
      @jadak100 3 роки тому

      Why is it weird though?

    • @thisorthat629
      @thisorthat629 3 роки тому +12

      @@jadak100 I guess because most Japanese Game series are only technically series ( think FF or DQ ) or the games only have minimal connections ( think Nier, Silent Hill - tough SH3 has a bit more of a connection, but in general ). In most cases they aren't as connected as series in the West, here most games build upon each other, even if u can often play them as standalone games, but there are deeper connections / flashbacks / characters from older games.

    • @maiseree1511
      @maiseree1511 3 роки тому +1

      @@thisorthat629 Nomura and Kingdom Hearts: I beg to differ

    • @thisorthat629
      @thisorthat629 3 роки тому +4

      @@maiseree1511 That's why I wrote "most", there are always exceptions to the rule.

    • @blumiu2426
      @blumiu2426 3 роки тому

      I thought most plots tried to tie-in the story in a conclusion by the third entry. I'm referring to films or with that narrative direction in mind, which this are heavily based around. As far as game franchise go, they can as well, but typically doesn't end continuation.

  • @la912
    @la912 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! And thanks for the guide in the description

  • @defuncttoad9552
    @defuncttoad9552 2 роки тому +2

    Never see anyone talk about this one. Very refreshing

  • @FuneraillesDuMonde
    @FuneraillesDuMonde 3 роки тому +2

    "if the removal of convenience is done purposefully, it can be a powerful tool for horror games"
    i've been trying to explain this concept to people for years, thank you for boiling it down to a single sentence

  • @TheHorrorHistorian
    @TheHorrorHistorian 2 роки тому +1

    Doing some writing on the Camera Obscura, had this playing in the background. I'm still overjoyed you love this game as much as I do, so underrated

  • @jameswebb966
    @jameswebb966 3 роки тому +7

    I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!! MY BODY IS READY AHHHHH

  • @galaxymaster
    @galaxymaster 3 роки тому +3

    My favorite survival horror series and I'm not only heartbroken, but devastated that it probably is a dead series now.

  • @xTatlTaelx
    @xTatlTaelx 3 роки тому +4

    How did I miss this video! Rei is honestly one of my favourite fictional characters, but I love just about everything in this game. Even the back tracking it's not that bad in my opinion.

  • @Sasukeheart2
    @Sasukeheart2 3 роки тому +2

    I'm glad you are releasing more videos this year but don't push yourself! Your content is a treat. This video was an amazing take on an amazing series.

  • @ferchsakura
    @ferchsakura 3 роки тому +4

    The third one has always been my favorite of all the entries. People seem to think the second one is the masterpiece. But for me the third one has always been that, the theme is extremely relatable and the game itself is way more fun to play as well as terrifying.
    This game is my favorite, of all games probably. I have played this more than 10 times now and never lose that feeling of fear, or even get bored of it. Thanks for making this video.

  • @Isayonelove
    @Isayonelove 3 роки тому +16

    Goddamnit Ragnar, you cant just casually match action to music without me going, mmmm right thats why i love his videos. 0:40

  • @KekkanSeihin
    @KekkanSeihin 3 роки тому +9

    Playing the undub version... I see you are a man of culture indeed!

    • @RagnarRoxShow
      @RagnarRoxShow  3 роки тому

      It's really good and gets rid of the not-all-that-good US dub.

    • @bunsmasterbunny
      @bunsmasterbunny 3 роки тому +2

      @@RagnarRoxShow What? The US dub was great.

    • @RagnarRoxShow
      @RagnarRoxShow  3 роки тому +2

      it was okay

  • @hirobeez
    @hirobeez 3 роки тому +14

    I still remember the time I learned that Nintendo had bought the rights of the series. I'm still angry about it. And something tells me they only did it because they thought "hey, camera good Wii/ WiiU pad cool, match made in heaven, lets gooo!".

    • @SomberTwilight_
      @SomberTwilight_ 3 роки тому

      @@BornRemaining not buying that trash, I'll just emulate it

  • @EMalachi
    @EMalachi 3 роки тому +23

    The most memorable part of this game was at the beginning when my friend and I joked about the boyfriend's name.
    "It's you."
    "Who?"
    "Yuu."

  • @nothri
    @nothri 3 роки тому +11

    5:11 And may I just say what a fantastic career choice for Miku to pursue! Yep, lost my brother and almost died in a place that was haunted as all fuck...might as well look for more of those!

    • @nothri
      @nothri 3 роки тому +2

      SPOILERS FOR FATAL FRAME 5- But I'll grant you that's a minor quibble compared to everything wrong with the whole "I want to have ghost babies with my dead older brother" thing she has going in later in the franchise.

  • @Lilz_dreams_on
    @Lilz_dreams_on 3 роки тому +2

    This is my favourite game in the series too. Thank you for this video. Since we're not getting any new games any time soon, this is the next best thing!

  • @MadamSyn
    @MadamSyn 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for doing these deep dives into my favorite games! I have all 3 fatal frames, rule of rose, kuon, and haunting ground (I used to have it. Damn teen me who didn't know that game was rare) you really make me re appreciate these masterpieces that were before their time.. I would love for a reboot of these games. Or even a re release on switch or something. Anyways I appreciate the work you put into these videos!

  • @StubenhockerElite
    @StubenhockerElite 3 роки тому +1

    10:50 just wtf was that transition? That's some next-level editing, respect!

  • @Chris_MarMar
    @Chris_MarMar 3 роки тому +13

    Oh hell yeah, finally the video on my favorite Fatal Frame is out. Fuck yes.

    • @Chris_MarMar
      @Chris_MarMar 3 роки тому

      @тαρ мє αи∂ ѕєχ ωιтн мє Hazel Do you mean that as an insult or no? 😅 I have heard of plague of gripes before but that’s about it.

  • @maddu8437
    @maddu8437 3 роки тому +2

    I’ve always loved 3 even more than 2, its ending broke my heart and is still does. Thank you for the incredible video.

  • @Sollilquised
    @Sollilquised Рік тому

    i found this video first (before your other dives), and i'm so glad! FF3 is one of my favorite horror games of all time - it freaked me out so much, the way it sets up a separation from the "real" world and the dream world and then starts to remove the barriers and safety of being awake. and the ending ALWAYS brings tears to my eyes. thank you for highlighting this series and game

  • @gui_mauve2643
    @gui_mauve2643 3 роки тому +1

    My first horror game from PS2 and still, my favorite too. Thanks for bringing up this beautiful game again!

  • @ScottyT9933
    @ScottyT9933 3 роки тому +1

    Any time you post a video I stop my day to watch it as soon as possible. Good stuff as always!

  • @dokidash7052
    @dokidash7052 3 роки тому +5

    I MISSED YOUR VIDEOS! THANKS FOR POSTING ANOTHER ONE! I LOVE THIS SFM!

  • @mushisenpai2376
    @mushisenpai2376 3 роки тому +1

    Ragnar out here pushing a game to the top of my mustplay, yet again. Love your videos, man. Keep it up.

  • @dedydahlan
    @dedydahlan 3 роки тому +1

    I love this game so so much. And don't forget about how amazing the ending music, "Koe" truly is. Hearing it for the first time after my first run, along with that haunting scenes, gave me massive goosebumps. Thanks for making this video man.

  • @MysticMage255
    @MysticMage255 3 роки тому +2

    Fantastic review! I love the Fatal Frame series. All three are wonderful to play. So creepy especially with good headphones and the lights out.

  • @Bigfanoforca
    @Bigfanoforca 3 роки тому +6

    I’m always happy when people like the third game. Crimson butterfly gets so much praise (rightfully so), but this one was always my personal favorite.

  • @absoutezeo2126
    @absoutezeo2126 2 роки тому +4

    I love the third game, and you make some excellent points. It has probably the best atmosphere of any of these games, fantastic combat, decent exploration that is really unique in standout moments, and a deeply profound emotional aspect surrounding every pixel of loving care and detail placed into it. Despite all of this, I still can't say that it's my favorite in the series, or even my second-favorite.
    The film shortage in the game made my playthroughs slogs to get through compared to prior titles. Being able to truly run out of film was such a huge oversight, especially for higher difficulties. Instead of rewarding you for fighting more enemies, the game punishes you for it, a heel turn compared to the first two and later titles. In addition to potentially being able to run out of film and be useless until you reset the night, the game is also considerably stingier than the rest when it comes to resources.
    This may seem like a minor complaint, but it is a small problem that becomes larger and exponentially more frustrating every time you have to consider your film usage (which is often). With how insanely large and labyrinthian the map is, I was exhausted by the end.
    Aside from this, the aforementioned map was definitely too obtuse at times, making navigation a chore in some chapters. The inclusion of previous locations was an exciting premise at first, but they leaned too heavily on it and it lost its charm by the later chapters. I won't say that they were being lazy and recycling assets though, because I don't think that's fair or even true.
    Kei was a terribly executed character. If he and Rei or Miku had been the only two protagonists, there may have been some room for character development for him. However, because they wanted to have three protagonists, he became a generic guy that only exists to push heavy stuff and hide from Reika... lame. They should have simply brought Mio back instead since they were already bringing back plot points and characters from prior games.
    Overall, this game is certainly amazing and inexcusably underrated. I don't mean to drive people away by saying all of this, but rather, to make them aware of the flaws the game has before diving in, or perhaps retroactively if they didn't pick up on all of them themselves.

    • @absoutezeo2126
      @absoutezeo2126 2 роки тому

      P.S. I think it would have been cool for Mio to have been Yuu's niece instead of Kei's, skipping the whole friendship between the guys step. That would have made Rei and Mio's connection much more interesting compared to Kei and Rei's. Just food for thought.

  • @12raben28
    @12raben28 3 роки тому +18

    There are so many games, that "get lost", because of poor business practices :(
    I played video games for many years, but had precious few, when I was younger. So whenever I come across an old game I want to play, it's always a hassle unless there is an updated version on gog or steam. Not to mention series series, which are discontinued, because businesses own intellectual property.
    Man, I just want to know the real secret of monkey island.
    Please.

  • @ToonNick
    @ToonNick 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! I'm too much a baby to play horror games, but I find their lore interesting and I appreciate your breakdown on why this is a good game. The transitions were really cool too, and I can't even think about how much work it was to correlate your script with related gameplay for a 40 minute video!

  • @thommybepunkt7111
    @thommybepunkt7111 3 роки тому +3

    I just thought: "Maybe today is a new ragnar video day?" And it is! :D
    There is something really special about these old fixed camera angle games of that gaming era. It is hard to capture in words. Some part of it of course must be some form of nostalgia from old games like RE, but there is also something more. A feeling of uneasiness when I go into a room and can`t see whats in front of me. Maybe it`s the old lovecroftian thing about the fear of the unknown. Also I think the way you have to maneuver in many games of these type(tank controls e.g.) gives you this feeling of beeing defenseless in a hostile world.
    Like Silent Hill, Fatal Frame gives a glimpse into what seems to be the human will.
    And whatever this thing is, it is capable of archiving a lot when really needed.
    It`s a romantic approach towards the horrors the human existence has to offer and therefore I love these games in a very humble way, as they allow me to draw strengh from their story, and moreover from the gameplay itself. That is what makes the great difference of video "games" towards other media like books and movies. The experience is far more intimate.

  • @LiveAsDiva
    @LiveAsDiva 3 роки тому +5

    This one is my favorite folklore from the series... Very close with Fatal Frame 2 but i think this one is better...
    The tattoo priestess, the curse and victims, the ink, the fucking lore about the engraver, the little handmaiden, that bitch Yashuu, the fucking baby well, the chamber where priestess pinned down like fucking dissecting table in Biology class... And the stupid carpenter storyline... Damn..... Sooo rich, juicy, agonizing, hell... I love it sooo much

  • @evilminionnumber2
    @evilminionnumber2 3 роки тому +1

    Always makes me happy to see this game get love. I think the ending is the one that stuck with me the most, even if 2 was the saddest.

  • @Ade180db
    @Ade180db 3 роки тому +2

    This is actually my favorite video game from when I grew up, the reason why I love horror.

  • @addoworkman2173
    @addoworkman2173 3 роки тому +4

    It's nice to see Fatal Frame 3 get some love...I think it's grossly underrated and is on par with Silent Hill 2 as far as the caliber of story telling. Nice vid!

    • @Briizyo
      @Briizyo Рік тому

      Exactly and Silent Hill: Shattered Memories too in terms of story telling

  • @AdmiralDragon
    @AdmiralDragon 3 роки тому

    Bro, I really admire your choice of words in these kinds of video essay. Easily one of my fav to binge watch too.

  • @alephnole7009
    @alephnole7009 3 роки тому +3

    That Diablo 2 Tristram music really hit the right notes.

  • @MariWakocha
    @MariWakocha 2 місяці тому

    Have had this in my watchlist for 3 years because I wanted to finish the game first and finally watched it now! Great video!

  • @r.margret8699
    @r.margret8699 3 роки тому

    I was just playing this in the background as I was drawing thEN 40:32 CAME ON AND I *_SCREAMED_* wth the flow of your editing's so good T.T

  • @nikitas1841
    @nikitas1841 3 роки тому +10

    Loved this one as a kid, though I stopped playing about halfway because I was getting too scared, haha. Should return to it someday.

    • @Chris_MarMar
      @Chris_MarMar 3 роки тому

      Replay and finish it. Game is fantastic and is my favorite in the series. The ending is beautiful too.

  • @rozb6184
    @rozb6184 3 роки тому +3

    @RagnarRox Something I have noticed in my repeated plays of this specific game in the series, is that there are small and very scary events that seem to occur randomly, as I would experience them in one playthrough, do everything in the same order and not experience them the next. ( this adds to your feeling uncomfortable in a comfortable space discussion)
    There is a small empty closet beneath a set of stairs. There is never anything in this closet in any playthrough, but it just seems to be there. In my first ever playthrough, I entered the closet, and the door slammed behind me, and that creaking groaning sound used in the "grudge" films played, the room got dark and when it lit back up, the walls were covered in moaning faces.
    i have played the game completely a handful of times and have never experienced this again. I can even discuss a few other events that have occurred in the game that I have attempted to replicate but have never been able to do.

  • @def_leppard_junkie
    @def_leppard_junkie 3 роки тому +3

    Love love LOVED this analysis on one of my favorite games!

  • @kitkotreyes8287
    @kitkotreyes8287 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent video, as usual! We are perfectly okay with you taking time on videos because we know that it will turn out to be excellent and well-thought out.

  • @tatanooki
    @tatanooki 2 роки тому +5

    To me, this game is the best in terms of characters, because it deals with the theme of trauma pretty well, while at the same time bringing in the old characters to tell about THEIR trauma, like idk if the devs planned it or not but it ties together the OG trilogy with a perfect shiny bow.
    Second, it's more scary to me because the hauntings started getting into rei's apartment. Ya know, a FAMILIAR MODERN HOME setting. I remember after noticing the ghost under rei's desk, i keep checking my own study desk often... and after getting spooked by THAT BED CUTSCENE, i sleep facing the wall for a few days...
    I was in middle school and my culture believes in the spiritual so i was a scawed lil girl 😂😂

  • @hexfizgamingch
    @hexfizgamingch 3 роки тому +2

    " Because you highlight everything in the text, You highlight nothing"
    - this is now my favorite quote

  • @SuperAKguy
    @SuperAKguy 3 роки тому +1

    Awww yea I can’t get enough of your video game analysis. Thanks for making videos, keep it up man!

  • @OmegaVideoGameGod
    @OmegaVideoGameGod 3 роки тому +2

    I agree, this game made me question EVERYTHING about life and beyond, and let me tell you something, the universe and beyond scare me more than anything else ever.

  • @abandonedknowledge
    @abandonedknowledge 3 роки тому

    I bless the gods for finding you because you deadass just unlocked a horror game from my childhood I've been looking for YEARS. I'm so fucking glad. I miss Fatal Frame.

  • @prachipallavisamal183
    @prachipallavisamal183 3 роки тому +1

    I was looking forward to this so much, and it was worth the wait! I actually spent today watching the Fatal Frame videos waiting for this one to drop, and I know I'll keep coming back to this too. Thank you!!

    • @prachipallavisamal183
      @prachipallavisamal183 3 роки тому

      Returning after finishing the game once - and I have come to appreciate the points in this video so much more!
      Thinking about the thematic coherence of this game, how it balances dread, comfort and discomfort throughout the game, how organic the threat feels at the end, just how sad the boss battle felt, how well it's paced between the segments in the house and the dreamscape, how well Koe fits in at the end of the game - I could go on and on...
      You mentioned the 'removal of discomfort' as a thematic choice and mentioned the track function. Interestingly, I feel another function encapsulates this idea even better. I couldn't find the 'measure' function!! I have finished this playthrough having no idea how long it would take to take down a ghost, and found myself spending a lot of film, just going 'nope!' at the ghost, and running away, and that's how the boss battle felt too!
      That, and just how much more scarring and uncomfortable it feels to be attacked in this one, the different mechanics - I can't stop raving on and on about it.
      I hope it's rebooted - this is the game that shows what Fatal Frame can be at its best. Thank you so much for this video!! I still keep returning to it!

  • @RomnilWater
    @RomnilWater 3 роки тому +2

    As someone who found getting the first 3 Fatal Frame games extremely hard to find when PS2 was the current console generation ( it literally took me years to find them and when I was searching for them many places just laughed at me for even trying to find them) it saddens me that these games are basically impossible to find nowadays.
    They are delightful masterpieces Within the horror survival genre simply because they did something so different than everything else.
    Here's hoping that some sort of re-release eventually happens and thank you for letting people know how they can emulate the games since that might be the only way to play them.

  • @JoyfulOrb
    @JoyfulOrb 3 роки тому +1

    I liked the video just hearing the first chords of the Cure, but I also already love your videos!

  • @cesiumverbal102
    @cesiumverbal102 3 роки тому +2

    im ALWAYS here for fatal frame 3 love. this series is fucking amazing, and the third game is and always will be my favorite.

  • @Mangzorz
    @Mangzorz 3 роки тому

    Liked immediately because of the Cure song at the beginning. one of my favorite of theirs. Good taste in music AND video games, thank you for your fantastic videos!

  • @Skyrus456
    @Skyrus456 3 роки тому +1

    You convinced me, I cannot believe it, but you convinced me that this is the best in the series now. Before, I would have said I prefer IV or V for the more modern, heart-gripping, eerie-styled horror storytelling (despite their flaws); with FF III being a very close third best. Now, my opinion has changed thanks to your video!
    You really sold me with how you explained things like:
    1. How Rei is a more dynamic & growing protagonist than the previous ones that came before (and arguably ones than came after too).
    2. How FF III enhances the plot and characters of the previous two games by spending more time with in their daily lives and routines along with their horror escapades.
    3. How all the characters and all the stories come together to form an inseparable (unholy) trinity, which it works in a satisfying manner that does not retcon or rewrite elements of past games (looking at you FF V!).
    4. How it balances the overall tension(s) of the narrative with the Manor of Sleep sections & Rei's Home sections, and later even bleeds them together the further the games progresses.
    5. How FF III provides discomfort in places where you'd think would provide familiarity & comfort.
    6. And finally, how the multiple characters/playstyles bring a nice change of pace to the gameplay and prevent the game from getting too repetitive & stale.
    There are probably other things you discussed that I forgot to mention that also convinced me, but these were the most profound and most memorable of the them in the video.
    This video essay/review/retrospective was spectacular, and I do not use that work loosely! Your points and arguments were great and I agreed with 95% of them. You truly understood the series, its characters, stories, messages, meaning, and inspiration; something most people do not understand fully or struggle to grasp. This video was so good, you almost convinced me to replay/revisit these games again and I think I will once I get the time to. Would be the perfect time to with the recent release of FF V via Multi-platform, a couple of days ago. I have yet to watch your other two previous videos on FF I & FF II, but now I will make sure to make time to watch them as soon as possible, since I am sure that the quality of those videos are on par with this one.
    A shame that you & countless others seem to not like the newer games. Though believe me, you guys have good & understandable reasons to not like them, I just do not agree with most complainants that are thrown at the newer games. The worst of the problems that I do have with the newer games are usually, at worst, ignorable and do not hamper the horror experience that much (at least for me). Even though you thoughts might be more negative then the ones covering the first three games, I would still love to see you do ones on IV & V, assuming if you haven't done so already. Mostly so we, as Fatal Frame fans, can get more content and so I can personally see someone else's drastically different (but well grounded and cultured) mindset tackle the newer games. I have only seen a few critical analyses/reviews/video essays on the newer games that truly stand out and give genuinely good criticisms.
    It is truly tragic that this series has never gotten the attention and notoriety it deservers for how much goes into these games. Sadly, during the few times it did get mainstream attention what usually ended up happening was: the direction of the series is misinterpreted by several people, the wrong type of influencers play it and voice their opinions on it (*cough* *cough* Mark-i-pli-er), the game(s) are quickly forgotten or lost to time and modern memory, and the game(s) becomes nearly inaccessible/impossible to play on original hardware due to problems like: region barriers, lack of game perseveration on the developer's end, and complications with their current publisher Nintendo (which looks like it might be somewhat resolved now, thanks to the recent FF V port).
    Here's to a brighter future for the series going forward! Or would it be darker since it's a horror game?
    Either way, thank you for making this video, it really spoke to me.

  • @Schlaym
    @Schlaym 3 роки тому +1

    Yessss I've really been looking forward to this video! Love it!!