Did the Force Feedback Sensitivity Setting Change in GT7 after Patch 1.49?

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  • @omerbayraktar1953
    @omerbayraktar1953 4 місяці тому +13

    Sensitivity is minimum force signal that the game can send to the wheel. it's for lower end wheels with force deadzone i would keep it at the lowest with the high end wheels so that i wont lose detail and have a natural feeling. When you set it to 10 the game constantly sending high force signals to your wheel even when you go straight thats why it wobbles.

    • @Rickk69er
      @Rickk69er Місяць тому +1

      Exactly but with high end wheels, you do get that wobble. And I got rid of the wobble by turning that down to one

  • @Mystic-Cheemu
    @Mystic-Cheemu Місяць тому +1

    Lowering the vibration in game setting will lower the vibration. I'm using dd+ and was having the same problem. Lowered vibration from 100 to 50. No vibration on high speed straight

  • @Rohip
    @Rohip 4 місяці тому +1

    One of the biggest changes is that you no longer have to reload the race for sensitivity changes to actually take effect.

  • @kpudgar
    @kpudgar 4 місяці тому +4

    I have the same T-GT II wheel and I love it!!! Especially after update 1.49. (I used to own 2 sets of the G PRO but sold one and returned the other due to the lack of alternative wheel support and since I have updated my wheel collection to 10 diff wheels on the T-GT).
    Anyways, I wanted to share my perfect setup for me in GT7 since the 1.49 and 1.50 updates: Torque set to 10 and sensitivity to 5. It’s such a sweet spot and you get to feel the road texture as much as you will need.

    • @REDEEL16
      @REDEEL16 4 місяці тому

      Cheers I will try it as have the same wheel. What about the other settings like controller sensitivity does that make a difference when using a wheel. Thanks

    • @kpudgar
      @kpudgar 4 місяці тому +2

      @@REDEEL16Controller Steering Sensitivity has no impact on the feeling of the Steering Wheel and thus only impacts the Steering Sensitivity when using the Wireless Controller.

    • @SwedishEgg1
      @SwedishEgg1 4 місяці тому +1

      I have the same wheel and anything over 5 an 5 is violent at high speeds. Have a go on a older race car 787B or something similar on Le Mans or another with a long straight, the wheel turns violent at high speeds.

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      Torque at 10 for Gr3 cars can be rough. LOL

    • @kpudgar
      @kpudgar 4 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamerI tend to like it and handle it no prob. Like the extra arm workout :)

  • @TheBubblejones
    @TheBubblejones 4 місяці тому +5

    The update killed the Trueforce effect on the Logitech Pro. Really bummed about that. I could feel the front tires scrubbing when the car was under steering. It’s just really muted now. I hope they will address this problem. Still spend way too much time playing GT7 in VR. Nothing else comes close.

    • @King_Ears
      @King_Ears 4 місяці тому +1

      Crank everything back up it's not been killed at all. Personally I have 125 vibration in game and 35 TF audio on the wheel and that's more than enough. Anymore and it's just noise drowning out the actual ffb of the wheel

    • @ajoydas-Watch-It
      @ajoydas-Watch-It 4 місяці тому +1

      Same on his TGT2 I have it aswell, the trueforce is now totally gone you dont get rumble going over curbs anymore and details of the road surface are missing aswell. As if the Trueforce or T-DFB on the TGT2 is hardly noticable anymore. I would even revert back to the old patch if i could.

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому +1

      Hopefully, if there is an issue with Trueforce, they patch it for Logitech owners.

    • @ajoydas-Watch-It
      @ajoydas-Watch-It 4 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamer hopefully but i doubt it in that video i named on my post he making an assumption that they will push realforce on fanatacs upcomming wheel instead and therefore made it purposely worse now on other companies that added it prior like logitech and thrustmaster.

    • @Atum1c
      @Atum1c 4 місяці тому

      Same on my thrustmaster tgt 2

  • @heliwrecker8649
    @heliwrecker8649 4 місяці тому +1

    The sensitivity is much more noticeable on my gpro. Its almost like a subtle deadband or exponential around center. 1 being the most direct connection, like 0 deadband or no expo. Some seem to like 3 or 10 in 1.49. 3 seems pretty good to me. Maybe the thrustmaster doesnt have a fast enough refresh rate or wide enough frequency to notice the difference 🤷‍♂️

  • @TheVVumpus
    @TheVVumpus 4 місяці тому +2

    Oh wow, it finally does something! I expect 10 will be my preferred once I get the other settings dialed down for maximum road feel. I also only race in VR and flat screen is now so off-putting.

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      🙏

    • @Rickk69er
      @Rickk69er Місяць тому

      What will do you have? Because on the Logitech Pro one is the best setting

  • @ajoydas-Watch-It
    @ajoydas-Watch-It 4 місяці тому +2

    I have the TGT2 and the "Trueforce" is all gone since patch. I cant feel the curbs surface anymore wich used to rattle they just give no feeling at all anymore. Seems like all the Trueforce on the Logitech and T-DFB on the Thrustmaster was totally patched out. That the wheel shakes on straights left to right was also prior patch the case depending wich car and how high you had that setting but back before the patch you could feel the curbs and also feel certain bumps in the road alot better. I'm very suprised you haven't noticed, there is a video from Simulated Driving Resource youtube channel labeled "Special: GT7 patch 1.49 nerfed TrueForce on Logitech G Pro and Thrustmaster T-DFB" that addresses the issue.

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      I never got the rumble on straights like I am getting now.

    • @ajoydas-Watch-It
      @ajoydas-Watch-It 4 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamer interresting

    • @Atum1c
      @Atum1c 4 місяці тому

      Yep true force gone

    • @tonilaitinen5197
      @tonilaitinen5197 Місяць тому +1

      I think there is a bug in T-DFB aka "trueforce" here. Atleast for me on og t-gt it works, but I noticed when I turned the vibration strenght to max/150, the T-DFB would not work after a while. Going back to 125 fixed the problem.

  • @eddiethehead1903
    @eddiethehead1903 3 місяці тому +1

    I use t300 on sens 5 or 6 depends on the car anymore and it causes unnatural tank slap

  • @Rickk69er
    @Rickk69er Місяць тому

    Yeah, I have a Logitech Direct Drive Pro and it does make a huge difference in the way the car turns in. How responsive it is. Maybe for thrust master or fanetech it doesn't do so much. But the Logitech Wheel is very responsive out of the box, so this helps control that

  • @mariusr221
    @mariusr221 4 місяці тому

    Oh my God! They finally changed something in their Force feedback implementation! It was so dull 6 months ago that i gave up on GT7. There was a difference of night and death compared to ACC

  • @BinderVR
    @BinderVR Місяць тому

    Only the Gr.1 category, but i have same problem, with Fanatec DD…:(
    I hope they will fix it in the next update.

  • @cultimatic8927
    @cultimatic8927 29 днів тому

    Great channel.
    Question can u feel the kerbs with the tgt2 ,im not getting any sensation when hitting kerbs and vibration is faint through rig and pedals, its ok not amazing. Maybe my settings are in conflict.
    Some are saying new gt7 patch has killed the tgt2 immersion 😢
    ✊🏾peace

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  28 днів тому

      I think the vibration might have been turned down a little, but if you turn it off, you will notice how much is still there.

  • @clacky78
    @clacky78 4 місяці тому +3

    Yes, they have increased road textures and contours or re modelled them.. I have SIMHUB with base shakers connected on mine.. I have had to reduce 2 settings road textures and bumps dramatically as my rig was almost bouncing off the ground.. it's also why they have altered the ffb on cars. Everybody says they have messed up the formula cars as it has no feedback on the wheel. I took it down the straight on route x on racing softs. It has barely any low speed but then at 200km the wheel is really tight. If you think about it if you say went over a sausage curb at low speed with what they have done with the road textures it would wrench your arms now but at high speed it you skip over it.. could well be a safety thing although I think they have over reduced on some cars. But I'm sure it was the same with how tight it was at all speeds before 🤔..

    • @Tj930
      @Tj930 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, have a similar setup. 10 in total.
      Putting road surface much above 5% is too much. (Think I was running something like 20% before, but I can't quite recall)

    • @clacky78
      @clacky78 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Tj930 10 shakers ?! Blimey bet that's fun. Mines down in the summerhouse at bottom of garden and the other half can feel it vibrating up the house 🤣

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому +1

      With the road textures updates, the sensitivity setting actual does something now.

    • @clacky78
      @clacky78 4 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamer yer, you only noticed it on certain tracks before in certain cars.. rally was probably the best example.. I always had it on 10 to feel anything but not sure if I'll be reducing it, haven't done enough variations to know yet.

  • @MrJaz8088
    @MrJaz8088 4 місяці тому

    Glad to see it fixed, i have only just moved to the T-GT2 from the G923

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      How do you like it compared to the G923?

    • @MrJaz8088
      @MrJaz8088 4 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamer The G923 is a great wheel, truforce and the title that work with it are awsome, if it was more powerful likre 5nm then i would of stuck with it
      The T-GT2 its big and heavy, adjustment needed to be made to the rig,
      Pleny of power for me, i get sore arms now
      I see so many broken T-GT2 servo base broken for sale on eBay, whch worries me about quality.

  • @j.o.e2759
    @j.o.e2759 4 місяці тому

    I'm running the logitech pro wheel on torque 5 and sensitivity 6. Spent ages dialling in different settings and settled there. Great road and tyre feel at this setting. Anyone else get other settings to work well?

  • @gster109
    @gster109 4 місяці тому +2

    Wow thats awesome, so the higher the sensitivity the more details you get from the road now?

  • @Lee.b190
    @Lee.b190 3 місяці тому

    I’ve just got a t-gt2 today coming from a t300 and I have to say it’s much stronger ffb but I wanted to ask what do you have the vibration setting on that comes from the speaker as I find on the default setting out of the box it kinda distracts me from the feedback of corners ?? Or is it just because it’s a new sensation and I have to get used to it ??

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  3 місяці тому

      I keep vibration on default 100. I don't find to get in the way of anything. Is your equipment mounted well on your rig?

    • @Lee.b190
      @Lee.b190 3 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamer yeah all mounted correctly though it is on a stand but I think it’s because I’ve never had that before so will take time to get used to it

  • @MarcRCAddict
    @MarcRCAddict 2 місяці тому

    Since the update a month or so ago my TGT2 feels a lot different in the feedback, I used to really feel the gear changes on the base as well as the engine revs but now I barely feel it, to the point I’m thinking is my transducer faulty or did the update really weaken everything?

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  2 місяці тому +1

      There have been a few others who mentioned this as well after the update.

    • @MarcRCAddict
      @MarcRCAddict 2 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamer strange isn’t it mate.

    • @Jack24734
      @Jack24734 2 місяці тому +1

      I feel weaker ffb too on my t300rs after the update, any recommended settings?

    • @MarcRCAddict
      @MarcRCAddict 2 місяці тому

      @@Jack24734 all I can suggest it to turn the GT7 vibration settings to 150 and use the 10 / 10 settings, or 6 / 10 if you feel it’s too stiff👍

  • @mikehaifa8067
    @mikehaifa8067 4 місяці тому +2

    You should review the Logitech G Pro with Gran Turismo 7

  • @RTRT-de8vz
    @RTRT-de8vz 3 місяці тому

    Hi I bought this wheel after watching 1 of your reviews and am really happy with it after coming from a g29 but I’m not sure if it’s because I’m just not used to this kind of wheel but I find if I go above just 2 on the force feedback I find it like a bit of a struggle and not so enjoyable just wondered what your thoughts are on this Thanks

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  3 місяці тому

      At a 2, you won't be getting any of the data you need to be feeling. The sweet spot should be around 5-6. At a 2 you wouldn't be feeling the difference of when you have grip and when you don't.

    • @RTRT-de8vz
      @RTRT-de8vz 3 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamer Thank you.

  • @oliverfedermann7066
    @oliverfedermann7066 4 місяці тому

    For me the definition is strength is clear but sensivity does make you feel from a cewinggum to even not feel the curb form 10-0. I have it at 10 with torque set to 3-4 with a ddpro 8nm. But did you try to mess around with controller sensitivity i went vom 0-10 and the feeling you get for the ffb is way different. I had a lots of saves from spinning by set 10 where I wasn‘t able to react with set it to lower the 8

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      Hmmm, I think I have had mine set to 5, but there are so many different opinions on if the controller setting has any effect for wheels.

    • @Zascar_88
      @Zascar_88 4 місяці тому

      ​@@thecasualracinggameryes controller sen does impact the wheel. The sweet spot is 5... too low the tires don't turn enough scrubbing speed, too high and you have understeer the tires turn too much scrubbing speed... sen 5 is closest to 1:1 steering

  • @gabem8119
    @gabem8119 4 місяці тому

    I have a TM wheel too, not the same one you have and I run sensitivity around 6 too and I’ve gotten some vibration from the wheel on high speed straights since before the update but it’s never been like your wheel does.

  • @B-kn8yb
    @B-kn8yb 4 місяці тому +2

    Logitech pro doesn’t matter. 1 gets rid of oscillation, sometimes, but that’s it

    • @Tj930
      @Tj930 4 місяці тому

      The Trueforce has been backed down; used to be really communicative when the front tyres scrubbed during understeer

  • @zhifeihuan8259
    @zhifeihuan8259 4 місяці тому

    this is basically natural damper in fanatec wheel base

  • @NinjaNovice
    @NinjaNovice 4 місяці тому

    Update 1.49 is to blame for all the steering wheel force feedback issues . I had a Fanatec wheel that had absolutely zero force feedback for 80% of my cars after that update. Basically all of my road cars no longer had any feedback. I also had big issues with the wheel disconnecting randomly too many times I bought the logitech pro series wheel, and have been thrilled with it ever since.

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому +1

      I'm not having any issues with the T-GT II. Actually, it feels great.

    • @papo_freerider6856
      @papo_freerider6856 3 місяці тому +1

      After Update 1.50, my tgt2 lose force feedback after 15 min play . My setup is 5 torque , 5 sensitivity

    • @RezaSimRacing
      @RezaSimRacing Місяць тому

      ​@@papo_freerider6856 I have such a problem too

    • @papo_freerider6856
      @papo_freerider6856 Місяць тому

      @@RezaSimRacing i ordered the new t598, i hope it goes well

    • @RezaSimRacing
      @RezaSimRacing Місяць тому

      ​@@papo_freerider6856check the fans of the motor, maybe they aren't working

  • @Atum1c
    @Atum1c 4 місяці тому +1

    Bro why do many cars have no feedback at all

  • @ruddersidedown
    @ruddersidedown 2 місяці тому

    I'm using an old G29. When playing offline, it is weak and boring. I was just able to play online, and the wheel felt stronger, and more input (like I'd have from other games).

  • @elcapitanotim214
    @elcapitanotim214 4 місяці тому +1

    I have sensitivity 10 with torque either 4 or 5 depending on the car. On a DD pro

  • @jzmmm
    @jzmmm 4 місяці тому

    A wheel should not be shaking like that. Happens to me on my r92cp with an old setup. Feels stupid

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      Yeah, would obviously never keep it on this setting level, but just showing the setting actual does something now where in the past there would not be much difference between 1 and 10.

  • @Racer_51
    @Racer_51 4 місяці тому

    The same thing happened now with my DD+ beyond 5 I get a lot of "wobbling"so I set it to 4!

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      I'm convinced that setting wasn't working correctly up until now.

    • @Racer_51
      @Racer_51 4 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamer probably not!

  • @Frankenslide
    @Frankenslide 4 місяці тому

    That’s the natural damper setting in your FFB. This is changeable in your wheelbase settings. The sensitivity setting in game just amplifies it. I’d wager if you did this with your natural damper setting turned down, this issue will go away. At high speeds there should be SOME shake in the wheel, especially as the tires go over uneven track surfaces, but yes, this is just the nature of FFB wheels and is not something you’d deal with in a real life car, only sim racing

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      T-GT II does not have settings you can change on the wheel.

    • @Frankenslide
      @Frankenslide 4 місяці тому

      @@thecasualracinggamer oh wow, that’s a tragedy! That’s a higher end belt drive wheel right?

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      Yup

    • @marcellopanico5749
      @marcellopanico5749 4 місяці тому

      ​@@thecasualracinggamerTi sbagli,se lo colleghi ad un PC puoi impostare tutti i parametri e li salva sulla base,io ho impostato potenza 100% ( default 60%) e ho smorzatore e molla a 0%. aumentano drasticamente i dettagli del ffb cosi.
      Per riuscire a utilizzarlo però ho dovuto impostare dal gioco potenza massima a 3 , altrimenti è troppo pesante.
      La sensibilità,usando quelle impostazioni da PC,puoi regolarlo a tuo piacimento,anche a 10 e funziona correttamente.
      Ricorda solo di mettere il selettore su other prima di collegarlo al PC,aggiorna il firmware e puoi regolare quello che vuoi.
      PS : non attivare la modalità boost, rende innaturale il ffb anche se lo amplifica ancora di più

  • @beatnickclassics
    @beatnickclassics 4 місяці тому

    So I use 5 and 5 on some cars and 4 and 4 on others now... I used to race at 7 before the update.. t300gt

  • @SwedishEgg1
    @SwedishEgg1 4 місяці тому

    On my T GT 2 the force feedback has gone mad. When it’s higher then 6 and I’m doing more then 180mph the wheel starts violently shaking left to right. Nearly broke my arms 😂. Try the Mercedes sauber on Le Mans on the straight it’s impossible to control with the feedback higher then 6.

  • @RockinRob1972
    @RockinRob1972 4 місяці тому

    Not a young punk so we should become friends and get a VR race club going

  • @TheBlade20046
    @TheBlade20046 4 місяці тому

    Hey. I also have a t gt2 base and I’m not getting any vibration over the kerbs. Is that because of the recent update? I have tried the vibration slider but nothing changes

  • @blkschizo
    @blkschizo 4 місяці тому

    I feel like this is how all thrustmaster wheels are right now. I just tested the same stuff you did on my t300rs and almost duplicated your video completely so i dunno

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      It's good to see the setting actually does something now. I would never run it on 10. It was just for testing purposes.

  • @rellikretsnom1
    @rellikretsnom1 4 місяці тому

    2:11 it is torture ... as soon as u know there is a vr2 available 😂 l&r, rellik

  • @Jeddah_Racing
    @Jeddah_Racing 4 місяці тому

    Its damping, 1 being no damping and 10 being max damping 👍

  • @justinfar8931
    @justinfar8931 4 місяці тому +2

    This is really out of hand how PD tried to fix the physics but messed up the whole system of driving. 🤯

  • @Robot_Overlord
    @Robot_Overlord 4 місяці тому

    Great. Thanks

  • @zhifeihuan8259
    @zhifeihuan8259 4 місяці тому

    ddpro i like keep the sensitivity at around 8-9

  • @jeffr2345
    @jeffr2345 4 місяці тому +2

    Try 5 and 5.

  • @tatsnneeps341
    @tatsnneeps341 Місяць тому

    Best Setting for a g29 anybody?

  • @nggogoe653
    @nggogoe653 2 місяці тому

    My dd pro dows the same

  • @King_Ears
    @King_Ears 4 місяці тому

    Yeah my G Pro doesn't do that lol

  • @UnlikeTheJones
    @UnlikeTheJones 4 місяці тому +1

    Wow. You talk at 2x speed.

  • @claudioalonsoWRC
    @claudioalonsoWRC 4 місяці тому

    hi man... Max torque in 10? What is the benefit of driving such a hard steering wheel... it is slow when countersteering, it is heavy... it is tiring to drive like that, for me. 2 or 3 its okey under this update, i own a tgt2 ..

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому +1

      The point of showing it at 10 was not to say you should use that setting. I said I pumped it up to 10 to exaggerate the effect it has on the wheel. In the past, putting it up to 10 did nothing. That was the whole point of the video. 😀

    • @claudioalonsoWRC
      @claudioalonsoWRC 4 місяці тому +1

      @@thecasualracinggamer I mean the torque at 10. I understand the purpose of the video. Even so, I have seen players using 10... and that is too hard. In my TGT I barely use 3 or 4 and that is already hard. It gives you precision but makes you slow to spin. I have seen that they put 10 on the Fanatec DD

    • @thecasualracinggamer
      @thecasualracinggamer  4 місяці тому

      I don't go past 6 on Torque. I'm usually between a 5 and 6.

    • @Christaz9
      @Christaz9 2 місяці тому +1

      @@claudioalonsoWRCIm a really fast driver and i run 3torque and 4 sensitivity with a TGT2 for Gt3 Cars for slower cars gt4 i do 4/4 for gt2 and higher i do 2/4. I find with 3 its perfect to catch everything on GT3 cars and still habe a good Force Feedack which isnt soft or hard its pretty balanced where you can drive for hours without doing a Gym session lol

    • @claudioalonsoWRC
      @claudioalonsoWRC Місяць тому

      @@Christaz9 great bro thx

  • @Ticket_Bait
    @Ticket_Bait 4 місяці тому

    The update for the Logitech pro changed dramatically for the better once I dialed in new #’s from youtuber “wombleleader”. WHEEL_ strength 8; true force 50; filter 7; dampener 20 ; angel 1080; brake force 25; IN GAME vibration 150 but with VR I just have it on ; torque 9 and sensitivity 7;
    Incredible feel now, I have tweaked his #’s to my liking and the car and track. But do try these.