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Thank you!!! You are the best out there!!! You are spot on in every aspect, not fooling around with all the technical, just delivering the facts - sound clips talks for them selves. Do not change anything as your presentation is special. Much appreciated and VERY interesting!
Thank you very much for your amazing feedback. This is truly special and very important since that helps me steer this channel into the best direction. ;) 😁
Excellent review. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I heard very clearly the differences between the three streamers on test, once I listened on my moderately priced iems (Final Audio ZE3000..lovely little bluetooth devices). Listening through phone speakers alone, it’s obviously far less apparent. I too thought the Auralic had the most organic and engaging presentation, but I appreciated your views on the Rose as well, within the context of your own system. Helpful for those of us lucky enough to have some relatively hi end gear (older Chord Electronics and Wilson Benesch in my case) looking to make the move into quality streaming whilst not having bottomless funds to spend. Choosing wisely and for the longer term is the way I’ve always tried to do it, and comparisons like this one really help. Peace.
I bought the Eversolo Master version about 2 weeks ago, its a fantastic piece of kit and for 1,200 British pounds its all I need the connectivity is great the functions are endless it plays every audio file under the sun I have some ISO files and to my amazement it played them back, the High Rez files just sound incredible and I'm using a tablet to control the lot, its also has the HDMI out feature so that's now part of my surround set up with a Universal player plugged in, I also bought a external 2 Terrabite storage card plenty of room for all my files, I don't need anything else it ticks all the boxes and sounds top notch.
Thank you for sharing your comment and experience. I'm very glad that you enjoy the ever solo me it's a great device and I wish you plenty of great time enjoying your music ;)
Very good demo, recording is very clean. Was listening with AirPod pro but was hard to tell difference until last night decided to use my Bathy’s. Omg this was the best thing. It’s like I am in your room. I’m been deciding on eversolo ME or A8. I heard your other video that you picked the a6 ME. My set up is Hegel h120 with KEF ls50 meta. Want to open it up with external dac / streamer. Right now it sound a little flat, could use more detail and be more wide. Which would be your recommendation? Thank you
I still have the original auralic aries. I could not justify the additional cost in terms of improvement when I auditioned the G1 and G2. The Rose 130 is exactly what you said bigger, more 3d. You can here the realism in the vocals in your video over the other 2 streamers. I went ahead and purchased the Rose. I'm very happy with it, and UA-cam is a great addition. The app is so annoying at times. It works but is not very intuitive in favour of the user. I am now looking at roon to eliminate this problem, but the sound is why I kept the Rose, although I won't forgive the app. Hopefully, HiFi Rose will improve this section with updates. The Rose can is not as laid back as nicely as the auralic but yes as you say that reverb is so nice.
Thanks for sharing your long time experience. Yes apps suck and that is why long time ago after setting up a streamer using raspberry pi and volumio i have up and went back to the laptop. tidal did not work correctly, and it was more time figuring things out than list being to the music. So I used MacBook for a long time. Having heard ayon streamer, Cambridge audio and some more that I don't really remember now, being totally outclassed by the MacBook with audirvana, nowadays with everolonand Wimm going towards streamers is more valid than ever ;) Thanks for sharing your comment once again 😁
I honestly didn’t expect there to be differences. But there is. I don’t understand how, but here we are. The HiFi rose has a touch more high frequencies. AURALiC and HiFi Rose have similar soubstages, but AURALiC loses a bit of the high frequencies. Eversolo sounds a bit flatter and grainy. It’s small changes but apparent even through UA-cam compression. I think I’d prefer the AURALiC for my setup. Since my amp is on the brighter side. And the HiFi Rose doesn’t have WiFi.
HiFi rose wins on looks. After intensive listening I would buy the ever solo. The G2 was a bit better than 🌹. But this eversolo is great value for the money. Thx for your reviews excellent
Thank you for your time and effort. It very usefull comparsion for me. I'm familiar with HiFi Rose RS130 and Auralic streamers and I totally agree what is said in the review. If we are talking about high end streamers it would be nice to audition one of the Grimm Audio's streamers, MU1 or MU2.
Thank you for sharing your feedback and I'll definitely have a look at those Grimm streamers. I can see they have a distributor here so I'll try to borrow them for a review ;)
Best streamer is still DCS NB for those who like proper music. It's the best and in every amazing system. Trust me, i've been through sooo many products.
I use it alone. TBH you should keep it, you won't find better source only product. Dcs are the best handling datas. I've compared to a lot of products yes (grimm, lumin, audiomat, aurender, melco, node etc etc), but my ears are my ears. @@谢维思 A DCS clock is the next thing I'd like to hear combined with NB to see if it does something.
Do you use DCS NB alone or use it with a roon core? I'm using it for many years and want to upgrade it to something else. But it seem your experience could help me to save money:) Did you compare it with some new and expensive players? Thank you.@@tamieu
My preference: 1. Auralic 2. Eversolo 3. HiFi Rose The Eversole had the widest soundstage but somehow the sounds weren't that solid/tight compared to Auralic. In this respect, Auralic was completely satisfying. Auralic's soundstage was a tad less wide as Eversolo (barely noticeable if one didn't pay attention) but I find myself sometimes tempted to characterise Eversolo's soundstage as "scattered" rather than wide. Auralic also controlled the top end quite well while Eversolo sometimes seemed to have trouble tempering the sibilance. Somehow, I heard some very nice sounds in the lower midrange come through that I didn't discern from the other two. HiFi Rose was lodged in between the other two in character and consequently not outstanding in any way. (And I totally agree with you that its sounds are more forward: I could see the whole stage closer to me.) I can't help saying this: Auralic was noticeably the most satisfying. (Disclaimer: I have substantial hearing loss in the midtones on both ears and hence am informed by a bass-centric hearing preference. This does not simply mean that I like music to have a preponderance of bass. But it does mean that what little of midtones that I hear may be impacted by my bass centricity. I've always believed that there is "covariance" across the highs, midtones and bass and so one's enjoyment of each of them isn't solely determined by the sounds within just that one range but rather that each is also impacted by its interaction with the other two ranges.)
I auditioned the G2.2 last year and ended up buying it as there is a significant improvement over the G2 that I previously owned. I like the tonal balance and the level of detail the G2.2 delivers. It’s also very musical, for want of a better word.
Liked your video and subscribed to your channel. I have the Aurender N20 and ACS10, I had the N10 before buying the N20. Aurender has excellent software. I don't use Roon in spite of having a lifetime subscription. The Aurender software is sonically superior. Aurender is a super company regards to customer support and their streamers are built like tanks, very natural almost Analog!
Thanks for sharing ;) Yes with Android it all depends on the app / phone / system version compatibility. So there can be everything ok with 90% of the cases and 10% can suck ;) The issues appear for real when multiple streamers are connected at the same time. When I had Eversolo, Rose App and Tidal Connect for the Auralic, the Auralic didn't want to connect at all. I had to turn off all devices and apps for it to start working again :)
Great presentation here, my friend! It's extremely well done, and i can definitely hear differences in each streamer. Not that i would pay $6k for a streamer, but the Auralic truly sounds amazing. Im using a relatively inexpensive Brennan B2 with a Bifrost 2 and find that, for my needs, it is sufficient and sounds excellent in my system. Thanks for doing the hard work for the rest of us!!!
First of all I'd like to see I love your reviews and secondly but just as important your channel along with "new record day" UA-cam channel (and perhaps few other audiophile UA-cam channels), I love the effort you and new record day put in regarding micing up your sessions, so we can hear what you are listening to. You both do excellent micing up. Brilliant... I appreciate the astuteness what you relay to us regarding your findings off the presentation of a particular audio equipment. That being said I would like you to review one more streamer DAC preamp and compare it to what you have reviewed so far and that is the NAD M66... as it's in a similar price bracket to the hi-fi Rose. I hope you are able to make this and if so I am looking forward to hearing your findings
Thank you for your very kind words and feedback. Indeed I try to share everything with you guys as I also like such YT tests and I even picked the Schoeps microphones thanks to channels doing microphones comparisons like I do here with audiophile gear. Noted about Nad, I'll try to do a next batch of streamers some day but it all depends on the availability of the units. Some distributors and manufacturers are super excited by the option of free review and some seem not to be interested at all. Also comparison reviews arent easy for some of them since some products are 90% sound quality and 10% marketing and others can be totally the other way around. And you guys will instantly hear it ;)
Auralic hits my heart for first 2 tracks. Airy, transparency as hell, super details could easy hear from most 3. Auralic > Hi-Fi rose > DMP A6. But from the 3rd track A6 Master is winning back as good as others 2. Damn, sorry for whom could not hear the differences
18:05 - I think you can hear very clearly here that the Auralic reproduces the music much better, more naturally and with a finer resolution. The vocals are better separated from the rest and straight into your face. You can almost see the expression on the singer's face. Awesome device! But not exactly cheap either.
Great comparison. Thank you. I use the Auralic G2.1 in my system and love it. On the video I found I like it best on the Beautiful life track in both the presentation of vocals and piano. Less clear of a preference in some of the other tracks. Also, since I am an apple user, the app works pretty well for me. Another interesting quirk is that the SQ is clearly best through the app with WiFi and roon disabled. Background is blacker and there is an overall calmer feeling. Unfortunately that’s not practical for every day listening. But That may not be the same in the 2.2 version.
If you have any interest in the Hoer-wege PSU for your 2.1, I can highly recommend it! It elevates the performance into an entirely different category imo :) unreal soundstage and natural tonality improvement
HiFi rose sounds the best, most smooth, airy yet detailed..eversolo sounds grainy, brighter good for instruments but with vocals can be bit too forward ..but for the money eversolo is a great product.
Enjoyed your balanced conclusion and loved your description saying one is like a Lambo whilst the other is like a Bentley. I sometimes listen to some systems and one might sound more detailed and exciting, like driving a 1.6 litre sporty hot hatch on the motorway where as another system might initially seem more boring but there's a sense of class, luxury and ease like driving a 3 litre Mercedes or Audi saloon car on the motorway. It's not always one is better but which presentation you prefer at that time depending on your mood.
Great video! I found the Auralic best for the Jazz , The HiFi Rose best for voices, and Eversolo best for overall articulation and instrument clarity. On second or third listen, the Auralic places the voice in better proximity to the band, whereas the Hifi Rose makes the singer's voice more prominent. The eversolo, being the clarity champ, came across as producing a confused soundstage, in regards to instruments and voice placement. All this is based on listening with good sounding but relatively cheap headphones on my Mac Mini computer.
Thank you very much for this comparison, the Rose130's vocal resonate with me a lot. Could I ask if you can give your feedback on Lumin U2, appreciate it, if you could
Sorry I have not heard the Lumin u2. the rose is very open and with beautiful holography. it will be a great match for all systems that can benefit from some additional sparkle, but for focals bowers etc I'd choose other options ;)
I couldn't spot the difference either. I have hifiman 1000v2 powered by Topping A70Pro...maybe because there is no such 4k sound on YT and max you can stream is 256kb compressed, so recording higher than 256kbps is pointles. If that is true, it is extreamly hard to hear the difference, if this is even possible.
I have an Auralic Aries G1 upgraded with Hoer Wege power supply. You are right it accentuates certain frequencies and has the darkness during the silence. The app is half of the equation, and Auralic has a great app.
@ Greetings. I have a Project TT that I rarely use. I generally just stream from Qobuz and listen to other stuff on the Rose. I also have probably 200 CDs that I have on the SSD drive that I copied from my collection. I feel the Rose sounds better to me than my TT. Hope this helped. My best Dan
@@danieldelgado8153 Thanks Dan. Funny you mention Project because i heard a Project Xtension with Sumiko Blackbird not long ago and really liked it... especially smooth upper mid and low mid (rich textured tone) and naunce decay/shimmer of cymbal had a beautiful sparkle. Can the Rose compete in this regard... because once heard such nice HF (in particular) from that Project TT it is now harder to listen to digital HF. Difficult to unhear what has already been heard. What do tyou think...
@ Hello again. I still love my TT and the sound I get from it. I grew up with “records” and still have a special place in my heart for them. Just like the convenience of digital, especially high resolution. Hope that helps. Happy Holidays!!
Thank you for this review, it was quite interesting and contained a lot of information. I am very curious about your review of the Rose 250 and the Auralis Aries S1 in comparison with them and the improved eversolo.
Excellent review. Not all talk like the other reviewers do, but you demonstrate and let us listen to not one but several genres. The Weiss DAC helped with the SQ which is why they are quite similar in my opinion.
Im just dipping my toes into digital, being a vinyl guy. This was really exactly what i needed as i have a dac i really like (Angela Gilbert Yeung) but im using a bluesound node for streaming. Even on my phone i clearly heard a richer sound with the auralic. So yay me, tge most expensive....😢
Wow, you have a developed and handcrafted DAC from Yeung?! This guy is an absolute genius 🤗 I know you have said, you are only with a toe in digital, but would you like to describe the sound signature of your DAC and perhaps compare it to others you probably listened to on your search to your Yeung-DAC at the end?
@@ramlord6669 yeah, he is a genius. So I've really only had built in dacs, but some good ones. I had the Dartzeel lhc 208 which is designed as a digital dac and streaming amplifier. The mark levinson 585.5 and the Vinnie Rossi lio with dac 2.0. so some very good stuff but I was never able to compare the sonic signature of the dac separate from the amps. My vinyl setup is kuzma + my sonic labs + allnic phono stage. I recently bought the agy d520 with a capacitor pack. Cost is about $2k USD. First, no, it's not as good as my $20k ish vinyl setup. But, it does do exactly what I need from digital, which is have zero of the digital glare that I'm very sensitive to. The soundstage is absolutely huge with pinpoint imaging. It's highly musical with wonderful flow, vibrancy and vitality. Tonally I can't fault it at all. I think the only thing missing vs a 10x the price vinyl setup is some of the warmth and richness. I'm a class A tubes only type guy, so take that into consideration. I've already set my sights on eventually getting her top of the line d522 which is tube based. It's about $7500 USD...and I would suspect my entry level already competes with other $7500 dacs so....
The Bluesound node has a nice app, but the sound is nowhere near as good as the Auralic Aries G1 I'm using. Even my old Motorola G7 phone, with the USBAudioPlayerPro app, sounds better than the Bluesound.
@@ramlord6669 hmm I think my reply didn't go through? I have owned the Dartzeel lhc 208 which is designed as a network streamer/dac integrated, the dac in mark Levinson 585.5 and Vinnie Rossi lio with dac 2. All were integrated into amps so can't pick out the sound of the dac. The agy dac (d520 with cap pack - $3k cdn) is musical, relaxed, vibrant, and open. The soundstage is huge, wide, deep and has wonderful imaging and holography. Compared to my 10x more expensive vinyl setup it has less warmth and richness. But other than that...it's close. I'm hoping to move up to the d522 tube based dac eventually
Have to say a huge well done for talking about the apps. No other reviewers have done this. When I’m interested in a product I always check App Store review score. Most are 1 or 2 stars & that rules out most products for me. Roon does solve the issue but Roon loses SQ unfortunately. Were you saying the rose app is not very good?
I think the reason for the barely audible difference is the external DAC, which in my experience also has the greatest influence on the sound. Sabre, AKM or R2r, here are the small but fine differences!
So, since I like Jazz very much and a rather "correct" soundstage, I gravitate towards the Auralic 2.2. To get a little more energy, I would experiment with power cords, plug in accessories, and component matching. This could be true for the Hifi Rose RS 130, to tame the forwardness of voices and to tame the slight heaviness in the bass. This is where cables come into play, and of course speakers and components.
Thanks, interesting shootout, Eversolo is for most of us but pitty if you pay for the dac not used, Hifirose is for people who care more for eyecandy, great screen BTW, and Auralic for the purist with lots of money and sounded fir me the most natural and bigger soundstage.
What an amazing comparison! Great video! For me (listening on Sony headphones) the Eversolo is clearly the budget player. Missing bottom and with exaggerated top. Rose sounds a bit muddled but with beautiful holographic vocals. With a slightly weaker bass this would be unparalleled. Auralic is in between the other two with balanced, powerful sound. My amp has bass and treble controls (Luxman) so a little tweaking woild bring the best out of Rose. We meed a repeat comparison but with A8 instead
Sorry to disagree with most of the voting / ranking here. 1 Hifi Rose easily thanks to superb smoothness and coherence. 2 Eversolo thanks to excellent dynamics. 3 Auralic unfortunately had some compression / congestion that the other two did not; a big no-no for me, putting it at the bottom. :( Great comparative recordings and approach!
No need to disagree with anyone, I prefer the. Eversolo. It all boings down to personal taste and awareness. Theis no right or wrong or need to agree or disagree. Also making a statement on compressed audio on you tube is a waste of time but nice entertainment .people hear what they want to hear.
@@DJMikeron UA-cam SQ is the worse way to audition a component especially on a Microsoft Surface Pro laptop! You really have to hear it on your own system before deciding if it works for you. The only piece of equipment I ever regretted buy was a NAD M12 preamp/DAC with the BluOS 2i software. BlueSound and BluOS 2i were fine. NAD M12 was sterile and harsh sounding to my ear. I suffered for over a year and finally sold it! If I don't like the RS130, I'll do the same with that! :-)
People who like vinyl will likely prefer the Eversolo A6 with LHY PS. Eversolo A8 with PS upgrade, however, probably will have more similar sound signature to Hifi Rose and Auralic
I'll for sure agree. It's the most analogue sounding streamer out of Eversolo line. The A8 does not need the PSU upgrade since it already has one. It's the the A6 and A6 ME that can take the upgrade. Thank you for your comment and Subscription :)
I am running a Cary Audio DMS-700 streamer / DAC today feeding an Accuphase E-4000 integrated amp. As I enter into the world of SACD's I have been thinking about changing the DMS-700 out and using the DAC in my Marantz SA-10 (converts everything to DSD) with an external steamer. After your excellent review I am leaning towards the RS130. Thank you.
Very nicely recorded and produced video shows that they all sound the same. If you close your eyes while listening try to guess when you *think* you hear a change, it's impossible to tell the difference.
Why is it that you need a certain quality of downstream system to hear differences or improvements? If it’s better, it should make any system sound better. Tonality can always be improved (allegedly). Can ANYONE in this comments section reliably pick the time when the source changes with their eyes closed?
@@VirtualHiFi, it's a pity, but I also didn't recognize the difference in sound. I'm using cheap and old Sennheiser EH350 with or without Fiio KA1 on my laptop. :( I wondering what headphones are people that hear the difference are using? As I understand, I need to change headphones.
Much better as you go up in price. However the products are for different markets and prices. Ever solo is for USD 2500-5000 set ups. Rose is for those spending all their money on hifi. Aurelic provides emotional improvements that only are justifiable if you do power treatment and acoustically improve the room and place speakers accordingly to room modes. Aurelic suits USD 35000-60000 range set ups. So different market. If you like to better the Aurelic for less price than the Eversolo, get a proper disc transport, get a used good AES/EBU cable and use a decent 10-15 year old high end dac (multiple transformers, galvanic isolation and good components (even if chip is old it will sound more high end and less hifi). It is hard to get good sound from streaming but easy from discs. But 99 percent should buy an eversolo and improve the rest of the system like getting a proper power cable that improves the Eversolo to surpass higher level streamer dacs.
Very interesting perspective. I agree that auralic and rose is for a different system. So definitely there are different ways to approach it. But yes for 99% of people ever solo will be an overkill and app ease and user experience is more important than the 20% sound quality upgrade ;)
All streamer are very close and definitely do not justify a price difference of 6x between the Eversolo and Auralic. The sound difference were very subtle but I thought the Auralic had the widest soundstage (Tsuji Yamamoto). The super test would be Aurender vs Grimm vs Metronome!
Bardzo dobre porównanie, masz wyczucie w tym co robisz,gratuluję 😁 Rose ma genialną budowę i wygląd ,niebieskie wskaźniki ala McIntosh powalają :) Rose ma więcej oddechu jest świetny, EverSolo też bardzo dobry ,szczególnie stosunek ceny do jakości. Dla siebie wziąłbym EverSolo tylko powstrzymuje mnie brak Hdmi arc,często używam tv Sony a wejście po optyku jest chyba trochę gorsze od Arc .
Dzieki wielkie za komentarz. dokladnie tak dzwiekowo każdy ze stremerów ma swoje uzasadnienie, ale Rose jest najbardziej zbajerowany ;) Eversolo zmiata wszystkich proporcją dopasienia do ceny :) Więc w zasadzie każde z tych urządzeń może sprawić ogrom fanu ;)
@@VirtualHiFi A czy jesteś w stanie mi odpowiedzieć czy dźwięk z hdmi arc jest lepszy jakościowo od optyka ,jeżeli byłoby porównywalne to być może wezmę eversolo dmp-a6 a jak arc lepszy to będę szukał dalej🙂
Yes, it is a professional comparison, as you used to us every time. But I have an objection vis-à-vis money, very few audiophiles don't have the money for a separate DAC, that's why I would recommend a comparison between streamers with their internal DAC. Eversolo remains my choice for now, there are very small differences between the streamers, Rose is more open. Thank you.
Thank you for your comment. That is a very interesting point. I Tend to lean towards seperate streamer and DAC, since many times the streamer is a better than entire unit. (The Dac in the Eversolo is not as good as the Streamer alone, and if I were to just spend 1500 Euro on entire streamer DAC, I'd probably buy something like Denafrips Aries 12th and a Wimm or use the laptop ;)
This was the best video of all the youtube reviews on rs130. You nudged me to order it and I am waiting for it to be delivered. I'll be running it through a Linn DSM with organic dual mono DACs and into three systems.. Burmester BA32, T+A PA3100HV and Luxman C10x/M10x combo.. can't wait.. thanks again for an excellent video. You got me where you mentioned the holography with the extended sssss sound..😀
Thank you for your amazing feedback. I hope you will be very happy with this streamer. It is a truly beautifully looking and sounding device. So I wish you endless hours of fun with your music :) And let me know how it sounds in your system once you get it :)
@@VirtualHiFi Got the RS130 yesterday.. it looks stunning and you were right in every regard on the top notch performance of the streamer.. I just love how it extends the sound stage paired with the Linn DSM mono organic DAC.. thanks again for this youtube video.
@@zaldam No, did not need any break in. Right out of the box, sounds great and remains the same. Also, I love the rosetube.. cuts out commercials and able to watch great UA-cam videos in high resolution 4k and the relatively good audio that goes with it.
The Eversolo DMP-A6 (normal edition) sounds perfect already and the dac in it is close enough to perfect and also works well with my CD transport. Why waste money on a more expensive streamer that can't sound any better? Bits are bits. Streamers and dacs are commodity items now. My Wiim Pro Plus in my office sounds just as good as the DMP-A6. I just got the A6 for the eye candy of the screen. The only thing it makes sense to spend more on now are good speakers. I just looked up the price on the Hifi Rose. $5,195? That is insane for a streamer and dac.
I'll test the Wimm very soon as well so that it's going to be a good indicator if they sound at the very similar level and one pay just for the additional features. I would say that all of those streamers have place i proportionally priced systems. If one has lets say 20000$ speakers switching to 25000$ ones can make a smaller change than changing the streamer ;)
There are no bits traveling through a cable. It's modulated current that forms the digital information. This signal may be distorted leading to timing error and jitter. Furthermore every cable acts as an antenna thus may pick up electrical noise such as EMI or RFI. That noise does not change the bits but has an impact on the analog circuits in the DAC, diminishing the perceived audio quality. Consider it as two glasses full of water; one is pure and clean and the other is polluted. Chemically both are H2O (bits are bits), but think of the difference it makes on your digestive system if you drink the polluted water... Higher end gear usually takes more care of suppressing noise using galvanic isolation etc. and avoiding jitter.
My buddy just sold his Eversolo, and he sold a Rose and a Node, he is swinging a WiiM Pro+ with a linear power supply. I do not know what he is using as an external DAC, his house looks like a HiFi audio store, a high end hifi audio store, except for his WiiM Pro+. It all boils down to useability, and the WiiM does that in spades. He states he really does not hear any difference in sound either, using an external DAC.
@@goodsound4756Yes, but jitter related distortion can be very easily measured on the analog outputs of a streamer or DAC. Pretty well all modern DACs are operating at extremely low distortion.
I don't know how much better the master edition with the PS upgrade sounds over the standard addition also with a PS upgrade but for my money the Eversolo sounds very good. I cant personally justify spending many thousands on any component but can appreciate that others have that option. Thanks for the excellent review..
Thank you very much for your feedback. Yes I totally agree. Going for the Eversolo and later on a PSU upgrade if you ever feel the need to change if the most cost effective option to go for ;)
@@JMAudioEditions I agree, you should still review the Volumio Motivo as it’s got a great review from two other great UA-cam HiFi reviewers. It does have some interesting features inside … will be a good video to make for us all
I quickly got lost in the music; couldn’t really tell a difference. Sometimes the highs seemed more pronounced on the HfiRose, if so, only a smidgen. Edit: With headphones on, on a different day, I COULD tell the difference! Whenever I opened my eyes to what was sounding the best, it was the Auralic- the sound stage were more open, the guitar and bass tones were truer, and the instruments more well defined; whenever the music sounded noticeably worse, it was the Eversolo. With my eyes open, I couldn’t dedect the shift from Auralic to HiFi Rose 130, but my ears could detect the shift from HiFi Rose 130 to Auralic. I would rank them best to worst: (1) Auralic Aries, (2) HiFi Rose 130, (3) Eversolo DMP 6 Master Class. I like the Lamborghini vs Bentley analogy and I agree on the characterization of each, although I did not detect a wider soundstage with the HiFi Rose, but then again, I was listening with headphones designed for mobile use. 🙂
Interesting comparison- thank you! In my setup with Roon: I use a MacMini with local SSD storage with Hi-Res audio files and lossless CD Rips. I have a 2nd MacMini using Roonbridge attached to Denafrips DDC and Denafrips R2R DAC - sound is excellent. Does a dedicated streamer improve the sound quality as a Roon endpoint?
It really depends. If you are not a serious streamer which I am not, the Eversolo is probably more than good enough for me. However, if I am thinking ahead for my next upgrade in terms of the system as a whole, say a Gryphon Diablo 300, Marten Oscar Trio, (not sure what DAC yet), then I think HiFi Rose will probably be the way to go. Actually, there is one more brand that you didn't test and that is Aurender. Aurender came out way before HiFi Rose and its price point is ridiculously expensive, may be they thought they could cream the market at that point. Take the W20SE for example, this isn't even the top of the range N30SA 2-box model and it is already asking for US$23K!! I don't know whether there is an Aurender dealer near you, but it certainly would be interesting to audition/review it to see what it is all about. In my mind, correct me if I am wrong since you have an IT background, a music streamer is essentially just a computer of some sort that has been optimized to reduce noise and interference for high fidelity music, I really don't see how it could be worth US$23K, but I could be wrong.😅 I also wonder since HiFi Rose came out, could Aurender even be struggling? I can see a lot more people going for HiFi Rose just for their huge screens alone over Aurender.
Thanks for sharing. Yes I am going for the Auralic, since it sound better in my system, but I'm all in for the functionality and looks of the HiFi Rose. It's the best streamer for high-end lifestyle market for sure. If I were not for 100% sound journey I'd be more than happy with the Rose. Auralic IMO will be more universal one. So yes it's all about the balance. I never judge the sound by the price. I heard amazing things costing pennines and bullshit sound for milions. It's just expensive things have the advantage since they can be built with better quality components. But in the end if the designer is clueless or (just an engineer without passion for listening critically to their creations ), 1000$ device and be better than 10000$ one :)
@@VirtualHiFiyou need to check out an Aurender streamer before going with Auralic. Very dark inky background . Every audio show I go to most high end rooms are using Aurender. Jay iyagi on you tube uses Aurender as his reference. He has worked in high end audio store as well as reviewed every product under the sun
I had the Wiim Pro Plus recently but I was experiencing drop outs with it, i was going to sell my Eversolo streamer but I changed my mind as I got a more stable connection with it.
Excellent review!. We need more reviews/comparisons like this one. I have the DMP A8 and i also feel its too forward/bright sounding. Debating between the Auralic G2.2 and Rose 130. I love the Eversolo app and Hifi Rose app appears decent but I also like the sound of the Auralic but I am worried about using their app on IOS.
Do you use the Ethernet input?, the wireless mode sounds way better because it offers galvanic isolation, to use the Ethernet you need to isolate the Ethernet connection otherwise the noise of your router will damage the sound and it will sound forward and aggressive
I have Auralic Altair G1 great product,need iOS,but as a all in one it’s a terrific product ,I got a demo model, it was a grand cheaper, and a great App, very happy chappy🥰
Very interesting! I have the Eversolo a6 me with upgraded power supply... listening here, even from iPhone, there's differences. Hifirose has more punch on low end but the auralic... that has it - on the first piece, the piano and space and sound is as I hear it, most relaxed. Eversolo is good, just less relaxed, less punchy... Who can explain a streamer to a have had this level of differences being audible? Dacs, amps, even ce players or record players... but streamers?
It just means they're not "bit perfect" or the manufacturer has deliberately tweaked the phasing between left and right channels. A bit perfect SPDIF signal with zero phase shift and good clock stability will always sound 100% the same regardless of the price of the streamer.
Upon availability, it would be cool if you could also test the new Eversolo DMP-A10 preamp / streamer. By the way, I find the HiFi Rose way overrated...
Super ciesze sie ze masz dobre zdanie na temat Auralic Aries G 2.2 Zastanawiam sie nad zakupem Auralic Aries G 3 Ciekawy jestem czy moglbys zrobic osobny program na jego temat Czy jest tak duza roznica miedzy nimi
Very, _very_ subtle differences. Auralic is the most accurate. HiFi Rose is the most open and noticeably brighter with the most forward presence. Eversolo is a little darker with a wider soundstage, a tad softer than the Auralic. Too close to call, but my money would go toward either the Eversolo or Auralic. LOVE look of the Rose, but a little too bright for me. But ... If have to hear them in person.
Hello, Thank you very much for this comparison, I always wondered how the HiFi Rose and Auralic would have sounded in my system. Honestly I am very happy that I didn’t spend the extra money to purchase either the HiFi Rose or Auralic. As far as I am concerned there was no difference, I would rather spend the money in upgrading the speakers or the DAC which makes a big difference than streamers. Please compare the class d amps including the Eversolo class d amp as well. Thank you for your efforts. I have checked your speakers but I prefer bigger speaker drivers, at the moment I am running Tang Bang W8 1808, with 4 15” Eminence speaker drivers per channel. Looking for another driver which will be better than the tang ban, any suggestions? I have tried Voxative AC 1.6, and in my opinion the tang bang is better. I have also tried the horn (Beyma compression driver), it certainly an improvement over the Voxativ but was harsh, so I switched to tang band.
Thnak you for your comment. Yes Eversolo is the best bargain here. Even though the change is not night and day, listening with the Auralic adds a lot to depth and magic of the system. So its just a cherry on top. Costly cherry ;) Yes spending the money on other devices might be better, but I'd definitely prefer to get the auralic than on the amps at the moment. I had the Fosi embarassed so many amps not that it's not even funny. I'll try to do such Class D wars and will try to bring some silly nearly to hear too lift High End amps for comparison ;) The Tang back that you have is a very colorful drviver and Voxativ is definitely more Lowther like in the Character with bigger presence in the upper midrange. In Cube we have different approach and we like to balance the speakers very nicely. You can here the entry level already retired Fc8 driver in a MLTL cabinet here ua-cam.com/video/HjIUk5voWdo/v-deo.html 10" drivers are even richer sounding in balance and you can cut them in the OB even lower than any 8" drivers which gives great presence in the lower midrange. All Cube drivers has a QT of around 0.45-0.5 which is a sweet spot for good Fullrange driver balance.
1 Auralic 2 Rose 3 Eversolo. Between Aries and Rose there are LITTLE little differences , with Eversolo more evidence. At this point Eversolo 8 sholuld be interessing.
Easy test (at 4K - AAC 192 kbps) 👈 1st Auralic Aries G2.2 - 100 points 2nd Eversolo A6 ME upg - 95 points 3rd HiFi Rose RS 130 - 80 points Maybe with other amplifiers, class A or AB, Eversolo is better but with these FOSI+Sparkos there is an excess of clarity in the high frequencies with your loudspeakers. I would rule out Hifi Rose RS 130.
I don’t like this kind of test, because a ethernet cable like a FTA metis can change so much the sound, depending the ethernet card construction can be a huge upgrade. Owning a Taiko extreme I can say that roon is colored and not the best software to test
Thank you for sharing. Yes I agree, the Rose is for more mellow relaxed system that needs a bit more sparkle. Eversolo is the best Bang for the Buck, and Auralic present the most ananog yet full and dynamic sound character :)
I just saw your video very well done; which MacBook did you have? I am presently using a MacBook . what about the DMP8 eversolo as a Preamp? Thank you.
Curious for the new dac 😉 Audial? 😅 These are nice streamers but way to expensive for me, I´m also an Android user and prefer a good and simple app. I wonder how much difference there will be with for example an Volumio Rivo with good power supply..
In your system with that DAC I like the 2.2 the best. I also prefer the A6 over the Rose. I will be sticking with my A6 but will be upgrading the power supply to the PD Creative from Poland. Did you ever have a chance to hear this power supply?
I'll go for the HiFi Rose for it's bravery and fullness; Although the Auralic is a great device as well and sounds sweet. My pick HiFi Rose, nice looking device as well but they have to match Eversolo in the Apps
Yes the Rose is the best looking Streamer I saw and I love the concept, the functionalities and the sound. It will shine in all systems that need more openness and a bit of sparkle ;)
How did you connect the RS130 to the May Dac I2S? I have the same equipment but have not been able to get the May to work with the RS130 I2S connection.
Hello, I did not have the May , but Sring one, i did not connect it to the rose though since rose was already returned and we listened to the Weiss vs Spring on the Auralic G2.2
Thank you for the very positive feedback. There are many of them already in the USA and Canada and all owners are very happy. Let me know in the comments what is your room size and electronics. They do love the good control from AB and D class amps ;)
Great you found Roon, costly, but the best music management/playback software at the time. My streaming/DAC solution is Linn Selekt DSM with their Organik DAC.
Hi, great comparison! I'm on similar trip 🙂. Lookin for ultimate streaming transport for my system. I wonder if you have an opinion about Innuos pulse, zenith or any other.
First, thanks for producing content like this. I spent way too much time listening to this, considering that it is a UA-cam video. I would suggest a greater range of genres to present as audition because they are all too similar being acoustic jazz/pop. Great music but way too limited. The over arching theme to me was that there really isn’t much in it between these three. I did hear some differences but nothing in quality really. Any sonic characteristic differences may likely be indiscernible with more complex music. I thought the Denafrips vs A6 video showed greater difference between the two even with the same basic music. I listened via my high end headphone setup twice then went ahead and hooked up my computer to my main 2 channel system for a final comparison. Cutting to the chase, over headphones I chose the Rose 130 as tops on 2 songs (Chlara/Yamamoto) and 2nd on the other 2. I chose the A6 as top on two (James/Chamberlain), but 2nd (Yamamoto) and 3rd on the other (Chlara). The Auralic was 2nd on the Chlara and 3rd on the other 3. On my speakers, the A6 maintained the same spots, but the Rose dropped its 2nd to 3rd thus the Auralic had two 2’s and two 3’s. Bottom line, if price was equal I’d probably choose the Rose 130 over the A6 and the A6 over the G2.2. Given the GUI interface/apps and that the A6 is soooo much less expensive, I don’t hear enough to make me chose the others over the A6. That’s my impressions of the three. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing. Yes I'm getting back to my old tracks now with more different music. Hope you'll enjoy that ;) Thank you for sharing your opinion. I also like the A6 ME very much, but just got the Auralic, to add some meat to the sound ;)
Question for you; please explain why the data stream sounds different. Are you using any EQ functionality? Is the output volume calibrated between the streamers?
I always check the volume with SPL meter and pink noise. They play at the same volume. There is an audible difference between streamers. Is it due to one and zeros being changed somewhere in the middle ? Not sure. But the difference is there for sure ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Thanks. If the one and zeros are being altered then there is something wrong because there is no such thing. There either is or it isnt a data stream.
Seeing that R2R DACs are known for their "analogue-iness" and holographic presentation, which of these streamers would you prefer with let's say Holo Audio May? I'm currently rocking Eversolo A6 ME with upgraded PSU but I'm intrigued by Hifi Rose RS130 now as it also seems to be offering what I'd need from streamer (local library playback from either M.2 drive or USB, wifi connectivity with an app to control the unit and USB output). It's not that I don't like the A6 in my system and I actually don't really need more holography nor soundstage (which is something you highlighted as main improvement on RS130 when compared to A6), May is already great at that, but perhaps I could fancy a tad more punch and control in lower frequencies. Plus I'm not sure whether the A6 does my system enough justice - while I understand price is not everything, it's a fraction of a cost of my other main components (aforementioned Holo Audio May KTE, then for amps I have Holo Audio Bliss KTE and Feliks Audio Euforia Evo and quite a wide variety of top of the line headphones). Anyway, great hearing your thoughts on differences between the units.
I'm only listening through the Macbook speakers but it keeps following the same pattern, the eversolo sounds very good, smooth but a little soft, then the Hifi rose sounds a little better, more livlier and real but then another improvement when you switch to the Auralic, there's more detail, like the volume and treble is turned up. Even individual instruments and vocals have more depth and interest to them.
I rank the A6 in the top spot followed by the Auralic then the Rose. The A6 seems to have more air up top..the Auralic might have a more complete spectrum but I have to say the Rose seems to put a veil over the music. Although..it’s hard to really say that a streamer alone sounds like anything..would it sound “better” with a different DAC? For the record I don’t own any of them..
Wow, clearly, I mean CLEARLY, there is an audible difference between the 3. I prefer the Aries G2.2. on your setup. The clarity, soundstage, the leading edge of the notes more outlined. The Rose was just to boomy and warm, which muddied up the midrange. The Eversolo to me was last, to mechanical. I use the Electrocompaniet ECM 1. A fun video, thank you. 👌🎼✨
Your summary is very close to what I heard. I couldn't understand that in the summary of virtualHifi the Hifi Rose was seen so positive. To me it also sounded too warm. That of course could be my personal preference. The auralic almost sounded too bright but I guess it would be my favourite. I also liked the Eversolo over the Rose. I don't want to say that this would be the same if I heard it live but I only wanted to share my impression in the video which especially with the Rose meets yours.
Hi, what is the Qts value for your F10 Select? I have open baffle setup the higher the qts vale it is better for open baffle applications. I am diving into open baffle speaker building, and I do realise any open baffle sub cannot match the dedicated sub, so I have incorporated two SVS subs in my system. I went for SVS subs than REL because SVS can be adjusted on the fly through the dedicated app, to your harts content. Your speakers are excellent incorporating the best of open baffle and closed cabinets for lower frequencies. Thanks.
Just discovered your channel and loved this review and the review of the ZA3. It's no nonsense and to the point :) Thank you! Can you please tell me what you are using for the preamplifier?
Welcome aboard! Thank you very much for your comment and feedback. I am not using a preamp now and change the volume (occasionally) on both Fosi amps. I don't like regulating volume at n Roon/streamer/dać level since more often than not it's damaging the sound way more than a classical potentiometer.
Thanks for the comparison, its been pleasure to watch and listen, thank you. I have been looking into this topic myself for some time now, my experience so far is that dmp demolishes almost everything in its class and well above. Price doesn't reflect performance and this is more true in digital domain, in the above I didn't like the auralic, mid and higher mid far to forward and almost in your face, I don't like this kind of presentation... dpm is in top league here with rose, I would be happy with either, throwing into the mix price, I think there is only one winner, punching well above its weight category.
Great video, great recording skills!, It is possible to hear differences between all three. But why are there there differences again ? Embedded DSP effects is the answer as all these products have signal processing baked in. Harmonic excitation in the 500 Hz to 1.5k Hz range accentuates voices and instruments i.e. 3D like. Spatial effects are achieved by delaying and/or repeating parts of the signal along with stereo widening effects. Analyze the raw and processed signals to see the differences. High end audio is like smart phone cameras, processed to perfection.
Thanks for your comment. It may be so since everything matters, the power supply, application, topology, cables, connectors etc. the most important thing is that there is a difference and the only question left is is it reasonable for each of us to spend our limited resources on this one particular component. ;)
In digital domain I agree that that audio circuit design can make a difference, but a relatively minor one. The biggest effects are from the flavor of DSP algorithms used by various manufacturers. If anyone doubts this then I encourage them to install a programmable DSP in the signal path and experiment. With a few careful tweaks you can replicate high end sound even on modest equipment. For example, you can make FS speakers sound like open baffles, increase or reduce the size of the sound stage, have voices to pop out of the mix, etc. with a few DSP settings tweaks. People should be aware of what is really going on. @@VirtualHiFi
@@williamobrien6936agree 100%. These "high end" manufacturers will have you believe that it's the quality of the parts that create the sound but anyone who has a good understanding of digital electronics knows this is not true. They will tell you that jitter is a problem so you need super expensive stable oscillators when in reality a sufficiently stable clock for SPDIF will cost very little. If it's "bit perfect" it will sound 100% the same. If you're hearing differences, this is down to baked-in DSP. EQ, phase shift etc. you'll only be able to see this by doing packet analysis on the digital output.
Wow if Android is so much better, you had so many issues ... 😜 Based on your sound test... all did sound good and I agree w your ranking. The Auralic sounded best but it was really a close call. I think some of the differences beyond sound are the types of inputs and use cases. Nice presentation. Too bad you voided your warranty on the Eversolo w the upgraded power supply. (I'd do the same.)
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Thank you!!! You are the best out there!!! You are spot on in every aspect, not fooling around with all the technical, just delivering the facts - sound clips talks for them selves. Do not change anything as your presentation is special. Much appreciated and VERY interesting!
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Excellent review. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I heard very clearly the differences between the three streamers on test, once I listened on my moderately priced iems (Final Audio ZE3000..lovely little bluetooth devices). Listening through phone speakers alone, it’s obviously far less apparent. I too thought the Auralic had the most organic and engaging presentation, but I appreciated your views on the Rose as well, within the context of your own system. Helpful for those of us lucky enough to have some relatively hi end gear (older Chord Electronics and Wilson Benesch in my case)
looking to make the move into quality streaming whilst not having bottomless funds to spend.
Choosing wisely and for the longer term is the way I’ve always tried to do it, and comparisons like this one really help. Peace.
Thank you Friend .... HiFi Rose 130 is on my short list.
I bought the Eversolo Master version about 2 weeks ago, its a fantastic piece of kit and for 1,200 British pounds its all I need the connectivity is great the functions are endless it plays every audio file under the sun I have some ISO files and to my amazement it played them back, the High Rez files just sound incredible and I'm using a tablet to control the lot, its also has the HDMI out feature so that's now part of my surround set up with a Universal player plugged in, I also bought a external 2 Terrabite storage card plenty of room for all my files, I don't need anything else it ticks all the boxes and sounds top notch.
Thank you for sharing your comment and experience. I'm very glad that you enjoy the ever solo me it's a great device and I wish you plenty of great time enjoying your music ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Thanks.
Very good demo, recording is very clean. Was listening with AirPod pro but was hard to tell difference until last night decided to use my Bathy’s. Omg this was the best thing. It’s like I am in your room. I’m been deciding on eversolo ME or A8. I heard your other video that you picked the a6 ME. My set up is Hegel h120 with KEF ls50 meta. Want to open it up with external dac / streamer. Right now it sound a little flat, could use more detail and be more wide. Which would be your recommendation? Thank you
I still have the original auralic aries. I could not justify the additional cost in terms of improvement when I auditioned the G1 and G2. The Rose 130 is exactly what you said bigger, more 3d. You can here the realism in the vocals in your video over the other 2 streamers. I went ahead and purchased the Rose. I'm very happy with it, and UA-cam is a great addition. The app is so annoying at times. It works but is not very intuitive in favour of the user. I am now looking at roon to eliminate this problem, but the sound is why I kept the Rose, although I won't forgive the app. Hopefully, HiFi Rose will improve this section with updates.
The Rose can is not as laid back as nicely as the auralic but yes as you say that reverb is so nice.
Thanks for sharing your long time experience. Yes apps suck and that is why long time ago after setting up a streamer using raspberry pi and volumio i have up and went back to the laptop. tidal did not work correctly, and it was more time figuring things out than list being to the music. So I used MacBook for a long time. Having heard ayon streamer, Cambridge audio and some more that I don't really remember now, being totally outclassed by the MacBook with audirvana, nowadays with everolonand Wimm going towards streamers is more valid than ever ;)
Thanks for sharing your comment once again 😁
I honestly didn’t expect there to be differences. But there is. I don’t understand how, but here we are. The HiFi rose has a touch more high frequencies. AURALiC and HiFi Rose have similar soubstages, but AURALiC loses a bit of the high frequencies. Eversolo sounds a bit flatter and grainy. It’s small changes but apparent even through UA-cam compression.
I think I’d prefer the AURALiC for my setup. Since my amp is on the brighter side. And the HiFi Rose doesn’t have WiFi.
Thanks for sharing your comment 😁 indeed the difference are there for sure.
Excellent comparison , excellent quality of recording. I agree with your opinion.
Many thanks! Glad you enjoy it :)
HiFi rose wins on looks. After intensive listening I would buy the ever solo. The G2 was a bit better than 🌹. But this eversolo is great value for the money. Thx for your reviews excellent
Thank you for your time and effort. It very usefull comparsion for me. I'm familiar with HiFi Rose RS130 and Auralic streamers and I totally agree what is said in the review. If we are talking about high end streamers it would be nice to audition one of the Grimm Audio's streamers, MU1 or MU2.
Thank you for sharing your feedback and I'll definitely have a look at those Grimm streamers. I can see they have a distributor here so I'll try to borrow them for a review ;)
That would be great
Best streamer is still DCS NB for those who like proper music. It's the best and in every amazing system. Trust me, i've been through sooo many products.
I use it alone. TBH you should keep it, you won't find better source only product. Dcs are the best handling datas. I've compared to a lot of products yes (grimm, lumin, audiomat, aurender, melco, node etc etc), but my ears are my ears. @@谢维思 A DCS clock is the next thing I'd like to hear combined with NB to see if it does something.
Do you use DCS NB alone or use it with a roon core? I'm using it for many years and want to upgrade it to something else. But it seem your experience could help me to save money:) Did you compare it with some new and expensive players? Thank you.@@tamieu
My preference:
1. Auralic
2. Eversolo
3. HiFi Rose
The Eversole had the widest soundstage but somehow the sounds weren't that solid/tight compared to Auralic. In this respect, Auralic was completely satisfying. Auralic's soundstage was a tad less wide as Eversolo (barely noticeable if one didn't pay attention) but I find myself sometimes tempted to characterise Eversolo's soundstage as "scattered" rather than wide. Auralic also controlled the top end quite well while Eversolo sometimes seemed to have trouble tempering the sibilance. Somehow, I heard some very nice sounds in the lower midrange come through that I didn't discern from the other two. HiFi Rose was lodged in between the other two in character and consequently not outstanding in any way. (And I totally agree with you that its sounds are more forward: I could see the whole stage closer to me.) I can't help saying this: Auralic was noticeably the most satisfying.
(Disclaimer: I have substantial hearing loss in the midtones on both ears and hence am informed by a bass-centric hearing preference. This does not simply mean that I like music to have a preponderance of bass. But it does mean that what little of midtones that I hear may be impacted by my bass centricity. I've always believed that there is "covariance" across the highs, midtones and bass and so one's enjoyment of each of them isn't solely determined by the sounds within just that one range but rather that each is also impacted by its interaction with the other two ranges.)
Very useful to give a direction to upgrade the DMP A6 ME with LPS, many thanks
Glad to help. The LPS is a great upgrade if you already have the A6 and feel like changing something already ;)
I auditioned the G2.2 last year and ended up buying it as there is a significant improvement over the G2 that I previously owned. I like the tonal balance and the level of detail the G2.2 delivers. It’s also very musical, for want of a better word.
Liked your video and subscribed to your channel. I have the Aurender N20 and ACS10, I had the N10 before buying the N20. Aurender has excellent software. I don't use Roon in spite of having a lifetime subscription. The Aurender software is sonically superior. Aurender is a super company regards to customer support and their streamers are built like tanks, very natural almost Analog!
I have a Lumin U2 mini streamer and never had any problems. I use android. It is super reliable with Tidal and roon with no hiccups.
Thanks for sharing ;) Yes with Android it all depends on the app / phone / system version compatibility. So there can be everything ok with 90% of the cases and 10% can suck ;)
The issues appear for real when multiple streamers are connected at the same time. When I had Eversolo, Rose App and Tidal Connect for the Auralic, the Auralic didn't want to connect at all. I had to turn off all devices and apps for it to start working again :)
Great presentation here, my friend! It's extremely well done, and i can definitely hear differences in each streamer. Not that i would pay $6k for a streamer, but the Auralic truly sounds amazing. Im using a relatively inexpensive Brennan B2 with a Bifrost 2 and find that, for my needs, it is sufficient and sounds excellent in my system. Thanks for doing the hard work for the rest of us!!!
Thank you for your amazing comment. Yes Auralic is amazing, but I sold it already and am experimenting with HQ player now with great results ;)
First of all I'd like to see I love your reviews and secondly but just as important your channel along with "new record day" UA-cam channel (and perhaps few other audiophile UA-cam channels), I love the effort you and new record day put in regarding micing up your sessions, so we can hear what you are listening to. You both do excellent micing up. Brilliant... I appreciate the astuteness what you relay to us regarding your findings off the presentation of a particular audio equipment. That being said I would like you to review one more streamer DAC preamp and compare it to what you have reviewed so far and that is the NAD M66... as it's in a similar price bracket to the hi-fi Rose. I hope you are able to make this and if so I am looking forward to hearing your findings
Thank you for your very kind words and feedback. Indeed I try to share everything with you guys as I also like such YT tests and I even picked the Schoeps microphones thanks to channels doing microphones comparisons like I do here with audiophile gear. Noted about Nad, I'll try to do a next batch of streamers some day but it all depends on the availability of the units. Some distributors and manufacturers are super excited by the option of free review and some seem not to be interested at all. Also comparison reviews arent easy for some of them since some products are 90% sound quality and 10% marketing and others can be totally the other way around. And you guys will instantly hear it ;)
Auralic hits my heart for first 2 tracks. Airy, transparency as hell, super details could easy hear from most 3. Auralic > Hi-Fi rose > DMP A6. But from the 3rd track A6 Master is winning back as good as others 2. Damn, sorry for whom could not hear the differences
18:05 - I think you can hear very clearly here that the Auralic reproduces the music much better, more naturally and with a finer resolution. The vocals are better separated from the rest and straight into your face. You can almost see the expression on the singer's face. Awesome device! But not exactly cheap either.
Great comparison. Thank you. I use the Auralic G2.1 in my system and love it. On the video I found I like it best on the Beautiful life track in both the presentation of vocals and piano. Less clear of a preference in some of the other tracks. Also, since I am an apple user, the app works pretty well for me. Another interesting quirk is that the SQ is clearly best through the app with WiFi and roon disabled. Background is blacker and there is an overall calmer feeling. Unfortunately that’s not practical for every day listening. But That may not be the same in the 2.2 version.
If you have any interest in the Hoer-wege PSU for your 2.1, I can highly recommend it! It elevates the performance into an entirely different category imo :) unreal soundstage and natural tonality improvement
HiFi rose sounds the best, most smooth, airy yet detailed..eversolo sounds grainy, brighter good for instruments but with vocals can be bit too forward ..but for the money eversolo is a great product.
Yes Eversolo is a great unit in its price range ;)
Enjoyed your balanced conclusion and loved your description saying one is like a Lambo whilst the other is like a Bentley. I sometimes listen to some systems and one might sound more detailed and exciting, like driving a 1.6 litre sporty hot hatch on the motorway where as another system might initially seem more boring but there's a sense of class, luxury and ease like driving a 3 litre Mercedes or Audi saloon car on the motorway. It's not always one is better but which presentation you prefer at that time depending on your mood.
Great video! I found the Auralic best for the Jazz , The HiFi Rose best for voices, and Eversolo best for overall articulation and instrument clarity. On second or third listen, the Auralic places the voice in better proximity to the band, whereas the Hifi Rose makes the singer's voice more prominent. The eversolo, being the clarity champ, came across as producing a confused soundstage, in regards to instruments and voice placement. All this is based on listening with good sounding but relatively cheap headphones on my Mac Mini computer.
Thank you very much for this comparison, the Rose130's vocal resonate with me a lot. Could I ask if you can give your feedback on Lumin U2, appreciate it, if you could
Sorry I have not heard the Lumin u2. the rose is very open and with beautiful holography. it will be a great match for all systems that can benefit from some additional sparkle, but for focals bowers etc I'd choose other options ;)
I was unable to spot any major difference via UA-cam (only a minuscule one in the Auralic)
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I couldn't spot the difference either. I have hifiman 1000v2 powered by Topping A70Pro...maybe because there is no such 4k sound on YT and max you can stream is 256kb compressed, so recording higher than 256kbps is pointles. If that is true, it is extreamly hard to hear the difference, if this is even possible.
I agree I am using B&W 802 D4 @@ravx799
I have an Auralic Aries G1 upgraded with Hoer Wege power supply. You are right it accentuates certain frequencies and has the darkness during the silence. The app is half of the equation, and Auralic has a great app.
I have the Rose. Love it. Wouldn’t trade it for anything. My best Dan…..
Do you have a TT if so how does Rose compare to Vinyl?
@ Greetings. I have a Project TT that I rarely use. I generally just stream from Qobuz and listen to other stuff on the Rose. I also have probably 200 CDs that I have on the SSD drive that I copied from my collection. I feel the Rose sounds better to me than my TT. Hope this helped. My best Dan
@@danieldelgado8153 Thanks Dan. Funny you mention Project because i heard a Project Xtension with Sumiko Blackbird not long ago and really liked it... especially smooth upper mid and low mid (rich textured tone) and naunce decay/shimmer of cymbal had a beautiful sparkle. Can the Rose compete in this regard... because once heard such nice HF (in particular) from that Project TT it is now harder to listen to digital HF. Difficult to unhear what has already been heard. What do tyou think...
@ Hello again. I still love my TT and the sound I get from it. I grew up with “records” and still have a special place in my heart for them. Just like the convenience of digital, especially high resolution. Hope that helps. Happy Holidays!!
Wiim Ultra paired to a Geshelli Labs DAC has entered the chat.
Thank you for this review, it was quite interesting and contained a lot of information. I am very curious about your review of the Rose 250 and the Auralis Aries S1 in comparison with them and the improved
eversolo.
Excellent review. Not all talk like the other reviewers do, but you demonstrate and let us listen to not one but several genres. The Weiss DAC helped with the SQ which is why they are quite similar in my opinion.
Im just dipping my toes into digital, being a vinyl guy. This was really exactly what i needed as i have a dac i really like (Angela Gilbert Yeung) but im using a bluesound node for streaming. Even on my phone i clearly heard a richer sound with the auralic. So yay me, tge most expensive....😢
Sorry you have expensive taste 😜
Wow, you have a developed and handcrafted DAC from Yeung?! This guy is an absolute genius 🤗
I know you have said, you are only with a toe in digital, but would you like to describe the sound signature of your DAC and perhaps compare it to others you probably listened to on your search to your Yeung-DAC at the end?
@@ramlord6669 yeah, he is a genius. So I've really only had built in dacs, but some good ones. I had the Dartzeel lhc 208 which is designed as a digital dac and streaming amplifier. The mark levinson 585.5 and the Vinnie Rossi lio with dac 2.0. so some very good stuff but I was never able to compare the sonic signature of the dac separate from the amps.
My vinyl setup is kuzma + my sonic labs + allnic phono stage.
I recently bought the agy d520 with a capacitor pack. Cost is about $2k USD.
First, no, it's not as good as my $20k ish vinyl setup.
But, it does do exactly what I need from digital, which is have zero of the digital glare that I'm very sensitive to. The soundstage is absolutely huge with pinpoint imaging. It's highly musical with wonderful flow, vibrancy and vitality. Tonally I can't fault it at all.
I think the only thing missing vs a 10x the price vinyl setup is some of the warmth and richness. I'm a class A tubes only type guy, so take that into consideration.
I've already set my sights on eventually getting her top of the line d522 which is tube based. It's about $7500 USD...and I would suspect my entry level already competes with other $7500 dacs so....
The Bluesound node has a nice app, but the sound is nowhere near as good as the Auralic Aries G1 I'm using. Even my old Motorola G7 phone, with the USBAudioPlayerPro app, sounds better than the Bluesound.
@@ramlord6669 hmm I think my reply didn't go through?
I have owned the Dartzeel lhc 208 which is designed as a network streamer/dac integrated, the dac in mark Levinson 585.5 and Vinnie Rossi lio with dac 2. All were integrated into amps so can't pick out the sound of the dac.
The agy dac (d520 with cap pack - $3k cdn) is musical, relaxed, vibrant, and open. The soundstage is huge, wide, deep and has wonderful imaging and holography. Compared to my 10x more expensive vinyl setup it has less warmth and richness. But other than that...it's close.
I'm hoping to move up to the d522 tube based dac eventually
Have to say a huge well done for talking about the apps. No other reviewers have done this. When I’m interested in a product I always check App Store review score. Most are 1 or 2 stars & that rules out most products for me. Roon does solve the issue but Roon loses SQ unfortunately. Were you saying the rose app is not very good?
I think the reason for the barely audible difference is the external DAC, which in my experience also has the greatest influence on the sound. Sabre, AKM or R2r, here are the small but fine differences!
I notice if you run your streamer through a good dac you will get better sound.
Listened with Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro:
1. Auralic
2. Rose
3. Eversolo
Thank you for the very informative review.
So, since I like Jazz very much and a rather "correct" soundstage, I gravitate towards the Auralic 2.2. To get a little more energy, I would experiment with power cords, plug in accessories, and component matching. This could be true for the Hifi Rose RS 130, to tame the forwardness of voices and to tame the slight heaviness in the bass. This is where cables come into play, and of course speakers and components.
Just tried out the Rose 150B against my miniMac & RME DAC. I sent the Rose back...
Mini Mac ? Can you explain
@@krishnachaitanya9876 My personal impression was that the Mini Mac sounded more open, wider and deeper.
Thanks, interesting shootout, Eversolo is for most of us but pitty if you pay for the dac not used, Hifirose is for people who care more for eyecandy, great screen BTW, and Auralic for the purist with lots of money and sounded fir me the most natural and bigger soundstage.
What an amazing comparison! Great video! For me (listening on Sony headphones) the Eversolo is clearly the budget player. Missing bottom and with exaggerated top. Rose sounds a bit muddled but with beautiful holographic vocals. With a slightly weaker bass this would be unparalleled. Auralic is in between the other two with balanced, powerful sound. My amp has bass and treble controls (Luxman) so a little tweaking woild bring the best out of Rose. We meed a repeat comparison but with A8 instead
Sorry to disagree with most of the voting / ranking here. 1 Hifi Rose easily thanks to superb smoothness and coherence. 2 Eversolo thanks to excellent dynamics. 3 Auralic unfortunately had some compression / congestion that the other two did not; a big no-no for me, putting it at the bottom. :(
Great comparative recordings and approach!
No need to disagree with anyone, I prefer the. Eversolo. It all boings down to personal taste and awareness. Theis no right or wrong or need to agree or disagree. Also making a statement on compressed audio on you tube is a waste of time but nice entertainment .people hear what they want to hear.
@@DJMikeron UA-cam SQ is the worse way to audition a component especially on a Microsoft Surface Pro laptop! You really have to hear it on your own system before deciding if it works for you. The only piece of equipment I ever regretted buy was a NAD M12 preamp/DAC with the BluOS 2i software. BlueSound and BluOS 2i were fine. NAD M12 was sterile and harsh sounding to my ear. I suffered for over a year and finally sold it! If I don't like the RS130, I'll do the same with that! :-)
People who like vinyl will likely prefer the Eversolo A6 with LHY PS. Eversolo A8 with PS upgrade, however, probably will have more similar sound signature to Hifi Rose and Auralic
I'll for sure agree. It's the most analogue sounding streamer out of Eversolo line. The A8 does not need the PSU upgrade since it already has one. It's the the A6 and A6 ME that can take the upgrade.
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I am running a Cary Audio DMS-700 streamer / DAC today feeding an Accuphase E-4000 integrated amp. As I enter into the world of SACD's I have been thinking about changing the DMS-700 out and using the DAC in my Marantz SA-10 (converts everything to DSD) with an external steamer. After your excellent review I am leaning towards the RS130. Thank you.
Very nicely recorded and produced video shows that they all sound the same. If you close your eyes while listening try to guess when you *think* you hear a change, it's impossible to tell the difference.
Agreed....😂
Sorry to hear that guys. Are you using decent headphones and high quality of the recording (at least full Hd? )
There is no difference in tone at all.
Perhaps the soundstage differs but you can hear that only live…
Why is it that you need a certain quality of downstream system to hear differences or improvements? If it’s better, it should make any system sound better. Tonality can always be improved (allegedly).
Can ANYONE in this comments section reliably pick the time when the source changes with their eyes closed?
@@VirtualHiFi, it's a pity, but I also didn't recognize the difference in sound. I'm using cheap and old Sennheiser EH350 with or without Fiio KA1 on my laptop. :( I wondering what headphones are people that hear the difference are using? As I understand, I need to change headphones.
good comparison. does the eversolo power supply upgrade help when used as a streamer with an external dac? I'm wondering if it's worth it for me.
Much better as you go up in price. However the products are for different markets and prices. Ever solo is for USD 2500-5000 set ups. Rose is for those spending all their money on hifi. Aurelic provides emotional improvements that only are justifiable if you do power treatment and acoustically improve the room and place speakers accordingly to room modes. Aurelic suits USD 35000-60000 range set ups. So different market. If you like to better the Aurelic for less price than the Eversolo, get a proper disc transport, get a used good AES/EBU cable and use a decent 10-15 year old high end dac (multiple transformers, galvanic isolation and good components (even if chip is old it will sound more high end and less hifi). It is hard to get good sound from streaming but easy from discs. But 99 percent should buy an eversolo and improve the rest of the system like getting a proper power cable that improves the Eversolo to surpass higher level streamer dacs.
Very interesting perspective. I agree that auralic and rose is for a different system. So definitely there are different ways to approach it. But yes for 99% of people ever solo will be an overkill and app ease and user experience is more important than the 20% sound quality upgrade ;)
All streamer are very close and definitely do not justify a price difference of 6x between the Eversolo and Auralic. The sound difference were very subtle but I thought the Auralic had the widest soundstage (Tsuji Yamamoto). The super test would be Aurender vs Grimm vs Metronome!
Thanks for the comment and sharing your feedback. Yes that would be amazing test. Maybe some day I'll be able to arrange the units for such a test ;)
Bardzo dobre porównanie, masz wyczucie w tym co robisz,gratuluję 😁
Rose ma genialną budowę i wygląd ,niebieskie wskaźniki ala McIntosh powalają :)
Rose ma więcej oddechu jest świetny, EverSolo też bardzo dobry ,szczególnie stosunek ceny do jakości.
Dla siebie wziąłbym EverSolo tylko powstrzymuje mnie brak Hdmi arc,często używam tv Sony a wejście po optyku jest chyba trochę gorsze od Arc .
Dzieki wielkie za komentarz. dokladnie tak dzwiekowo każdy ze stremerów ma swoje uzasadnienie, ale Rose jest najbardziej zbajerowany ;) Eversolo zmiata wszystkich proporcją dopasienia do ceny :) Więc w zasadzie każde z tych urządzeń może sprawić ogrom fanu ;)
@@VirtualHiFi
A czy jesteś w stanie mi odpowiedzieć czy dźwięk z hdmi arc jest lepszy jakościowo od optyka ,jeżeli byłoby porównywalne to być może wezmę eversolo dmp-a6 a jak arc lepszy to będę szukał dalej🙂
Yes, it is a professional comparison, as you used to us every time. But I have an objection vis-à-vis money, very few audiophiles don't have the money for a separate DAC, that's why I would recommend a comparison between streamers with their internal DAC. Eversolo remains my choice for now, there are very small differences between the streamers, Rose is more open. Thank you.
Thank you for your comment. That is a very interesting point. I Tend to lean towards seperate streamer and DAC, since many times the streamer is a better than entire unit. (The Dac in the Eversolo is not as good as the Streamer alone, and if I were to just spend 1500 Euro on entire streamer DAC, I'd probably buy something like Denafrips Aries 12th and a Wimm or use the laptop ;)
This was the best video of all the youtube reviews on rs130. You nudged me to order it and I am waiting for it to be delivered. I'll be running it through a Linn DSM with organic dual mono DACs and into three systems.. Burmester BA32, T+A PA3100HV and Luxman C10x/M10x combo.. can't wait.. thanks again for an excellent video. You got me where you mentioned the holography with the extended sssss sound..😀
Thank you for your amazing feedback. I hope you will be very happy with this streamer. It is a truly beautifully looking and sounding device. So I wish you endless hours of fun with your music :) And let me know how it sounds in your system once you get it :)
@@VirtualHiFi there is a long wait time for the silver finish. But I am willing to wait. Will keep you posted when I get it.. thanks again!!
@@VirtualHiFi Got the RS130 yesterday.. it looks stunning and you were right in every regard on the top notch performance of the streamer.. I just love how it extends the sound stage paired with the Linn DSM mono organic DAC.. thanks again for this youtube video.
@@ramanmanan203was any braking in necessary? Did the sound change with the hours played?
@@zaldam No, did not need any break in. Right out of the box, sounds great and remains the same. Also, I love the rosetube.. cuts out commercials and able to watch great UA-cam videos in high resolution 4k and the relatively good audio that goes with it.
The Eversolo DMP-A6 (normal edition) sounds perfect already and the dac in it is close enough to perfect and also works well with my CD transport. Why waste money on a more expensive streamer that can't sound any better? Bits are bits. Streamers and dacs are commodity items now. My Wiim Pro Plus in my office sounds just as good as the DMP-A6. I just got the A6 for the eye candy of the screen. The only thing it makes sense to spend more on now are good speakers. I just looked up the price on the Hifi Rose. $5,195? That is insane for a streamer and dac.
I'll test the Wimm very soon as well so that it's going to be a good indicator if they sound at the very similar level and one pay just for the additional features. I would say that all of those streamers have place i proportionally priced systems. If one has lets say 20000$ speakers switching to 25000$ ones can make a smaller change than changing the streamer ;)
There are no bits traveling through a cable. It's modulated current that forms the digital information. This signal may be distorted leading to timing error and jitter. Furthermore every cable acts as an antenna thus may pick up electrical noise such as EMI or RFI. That noise does not change the bits but has an impact on the analog circuits in the DAC, diminishing the perceived audio quality.
Consider it as two glasses full of water; one is pure and clean and the other is polluted. Chemically both are H2O (bits are bits), but think of the difference it makes on your digestive system if you drink the polluted water...
Higher end gear usually takes more care of suppressing noise using galvanic isolation etc. and avoiding jitter.
My buddy just sold his Eversolo, and he sold a Rose and a Node, he is swinging a WiiM Pro+ with a linear power supply. I do not know what he is using as an external DAC, his house looks like a HiFi audio store, a high end hifi audio store, except for his WiiM Pro+. It all boils down to useability, and the WiiM does that in spades. He states he really does not hear any difference in sound either, using an external DAC.
@@goodsound4756Yes, but jitter related distortion can be very easily measured on the analog outputs of a streamer or DAC. Pretty well all modern DACs are operating at extremely low distortion.
I will check the wimm soon and will share my thought with all of you guys ;)
I don't know how much better the master edition with the PS upgrade sounds over the standard addition also with a PS upgrade but for my money the Eversolo sounds very good. I cant personally justify spending many thousands on any component but can appreciate that others have that option. Thanks for the excellent review..
Thank you very much for your feedback. Yes I totally agree. Going for the Eversolo and later on a PSU upgrade if you ever feel the need to change if the most cost effective option to go for ;)
Honestly, in my opinion…once you get an eversolo master edition dmp-6 matched to a great preamp/amp will give you better sound..
Time to do a shoot between the Aries G2.2 vs the new Volumio Motivo. That’s gonna be very interesting with all the raving reviews of the Motivo
there is no way technically the Motivo can compete if you look at the power supply where the magic really happens
@@JMAudioEditions I agree, you should still review the Volumio Motivo as it’s got a great review from two other great UA-cam HiFi reviewers. It does have some interesting features inside … will be a good video to make for us all
I quickly got lost in the music; couldn’t really tell a difference. Sometimes the highs seemed more pronounced on the HfiRose, if so, only a smidgen.
Edit: With headphones on, on a different day, I COULD tell the difference! Whenever I opened my eyes to what was sounding the best, it was the Auralic- the sound stage were more open, the guitar and bass tones were truer, and the instruments more well defined; whenever the music sounded noticeably worse, it was the Eversolo. With my eyes open, I couldn’t dedect the shift from Auralic to HiFi Rose 130, but my ears could detect the shift from HiFi Rose 130 to Auralic. I would rank them best to worst: (1) Auralic Aries, (2) HiFi Rose 130, (3) Eversolo DMP 6 Master Class. I like the Lamborghini vs Bentley analogy and I agree on the characterization of each, although I did not detect a wider soundstage with the HiFi Rose, but then again, I was listening with headphones designed for mobile use. 🙂
Excelent once again! 1- Hifirose 2- Auraluc 2 - Eversolo Am6 yeh 2 2! Sory.
Thanks for voting 😄
Interesting comparison- thank you!
In my setup with Roon: I use a MacMini with local SSD storage with Hi-Res audio files and lossless CD Rips. I have a 2nd MacMini using Roonbridge attached to Denafrips DDC and Denafrips R2R DAC - sound is excellent. Does a dedicated streamer improve the sound quality as a Roon endpoint?
It really depends. If you are not a serious streamer which I am not, the Eversolo is probably more than good enough for me. However, if I am thinking ahead for my next upgrade in terms of the system as a whole, say a Gryphon Diablo 300, Marten Oscar Trio, (not sure what DAC yet), then I think HiFi Rose will probably be the way to go. Actually, there is one more brand that you didn't test and that is Aurender. Aurender came out way before HiFi Rose and its price point is ridiculously expensive, may be they thought they could cream the market at that point. Take the W20SE for example, this isn't even the top of the range N30SA 2-box model and it is already asking for US$23K!! I don't know whether there is an Aurender dealer near you, but it certainly would be interesting to audition/review it to see what it is all about. In my mind, correct me if I am wrong since you have an IT background, a music streamer is essentially just a computer of some sort that has been optimized to reduce noise and interference for high fidelity music, I really don't see how it could be worth US$23K, but I could be wrong.😅 I also wonder since HiFi Rose came out, could Aurender even be struggling? I can see a lot more people going for HiFi Rose just for their huge screens alone over Aurender.
Thanks for sharing. Yes I am going for the Auralic, since it sound better in my system, but I'm all in for the functionality and looks of the HiFi Rose. It's the best streamer for high-end lifestyle market for sure. If I were not for 100% sound journey I'd be more than happy with the Rose. Auralic IMO will be more universal one. So yes it's all about the balance. I never judge the sound by the price. I heard amazing things costing pennines and bullshit sound for milions. It's just expensive things have the advantage since they can be built with better quality components. But in the end if the designer is clueless or (just an engineer without passion for listening critically to their creations ), 1000$ device and be better than 10000$ one :)
@@VirtualHiFiyou need to check out an Aurender streamer before going with Auralic. Very dark inky background . Every audio show I go to most high end rooms are using Aurender. Jay iyagi on you tube uses Aurender as his reference. He has worked in high end audio store as well as reviewed every product under the sun
I had the Wiim Pro Plus recently but I was experiencing drop outs with it, i was going to sell my Eversolo streamer but I changed my mind as I got a more stable connection with it.
Excellent review!. We need more reviews/comparisons like this one. I have the DMP A8 and i also feel its too forward/bright sounding. Debating between the Auralic G2.2 and Rose 130. I love the Eversolo app and Hifi Rose app appears decent but I also like the sound of the Auralic but I am worried about using their app on IOS.
I am on DMP A8 as streamer and similar situation. Thinking of taking a g2.1
Do you use the Ethernet input?, the wireless mode sounds way better because it offers galvanic isolation, to use the Ethernet you need to isolate the Ethernet connection otherwise the noise of your router will damage the sound and it will sound forward and aggressive
I have Auralic Altair G1 great product,need iOS,but as a all in one it’s a terrific product ,I got a demo model, it was a grand cheaper, and a great App, very happy chappy🥰
In my opinion you have to check the Ferrum WANDLA with HYPSOS. I was blown away from this DAC 🔥
I'll definitely will, I know their products from the look, but I'll be more than happy to get to hear that DAC :)
I went from Innuos Pulse to the latest and much more expensive Innuos Pulsar and the SQ is day and night!
To my ears
The HiFi Rose sounded superior to the other two! With the Auralic Aries coming in second. listening through a pair of Dali ios 12's
wow! very well presented sounds beautiful thank you
Thank you kindly!
Very interesting! I have the Eversolo a6 me with upgraded power supply... listening here, even from iPhone, there's differences. Hifirose has more punch on low end but the auralic... that has it - on the first piece, the piano and space and sound is as I hear it, most relaxed. Eversolo is good, just less relaxed, less punchy...
Who can explain a streamer to a have had this level of differences being audible? Dacs, amps, even ce players or record players... but streamers?
It just means they're not "bit perfect" or the manufacturer has deliberately tweaked the phasing between left and right channels. A bit perfect SPDIF signal with zero phase shift and good clock stability will always sound 100% the same regardless of the price of the streamer.
Upon availability, it would be cool if you could also test the new Eversolo DMP-A10 preamp / streamer.
By the way, I find the HiFi Rose way overrated...
Super ciesze sie ze masz dobre zdanie na temat Auralic Aries G 2.2
Zastanawiam sie nad zakupem Auralic Aries G 3 Ciekawy jestem czy moglbys zrobic osobny program na jego temat Czy jest tak duza roznica miedzy nimi
Dzieki :)
Chetnie sprawdzę o ile będe miał okazję :) Będe polować jeszcze na Grimm ale to wszystko zależy od lokalnej dostępności :)
Very, _very_ subtle differences. Auralic is the most accurate. HiFi Rose is the most open and noticeably brighter with the most forward presence. Eversolo is a little darker with a wider soundstage, a tad softer than the Auralic. Too close to call, but my money would go toward either the Eversolo or Auralic. LOVE look of the Rose, but a little too bright for me. But ... If have to hear them in person.
Hello, Thank you very much for this comparison, I always wondered how the HiFi Rose and Auralic would have sounded in my system. Honestly I am very happy that I didn’t spend the extra money to purchase either the HiFi Rose or Auralic. As far as I am concerned there was no difference, I would rather spend the money in upgrading the speakers or the DAC which makes a big difference than streamers. Please compare the class d amps including the Eversolo class d amp as well. Thank you for your efforts. I have checked your speakers but I prefer bigger speaker drivers, at the moment I am running Tang Bang W8 1808, with 4 15” Eminence speaker drivers per channel. Looking for another driver which will be better than the tang ban, any suggestions? I have tried Voxative AC 1.6, and in my opinion the tang bang is better. I have also tried the horn (Beyma compression driver), it certainly an improvement over the Voxativ but was harsh, so I switched to tang band.
Thnak you for your comment.
Yes Eversolo is the best bargain here. Even though the change is not night and day, listening with the Auralic adds a lot to depth and magic of the system. So its just a cherry on top. Costly cherry ;)
Yes spending the money on other devices might be better, but I'd definitely prefer to get the auralic than on the amps at the moment. I had the Fosi embarassed so many amps not that it's not even funny.
I'll try to do such Class D wars and will try to bring some silly nearly to hear too lift High End amps for comparison ;)
The Tang back that you have is a very colorful drviver and Voxativ is definitely more Lowther like in the Character with bigger presence in the upper midrange. In Cube we have different approach and we like to balance the speakers very nicely. You can here the entry level already retired Fc8 driver in a MLTL cabinet here ua-cam.com/video/HjIUk5voWdo/v-deo.html
10" drivers are even richer sounding in balance and you can cut them in the OB even lower than any 8" drivers which gives great presence in the lower midrange.
All Cube drivers has a QT of around 0.45-0.5 which is a sweet spot for good Fullrange driver balance.
Aurender and Grimm Mu1 are at the top. Worth checking out.
Thank you I'll try to test them ASAP ;)
@@VirtualHiFiThe Grimm MU1 is €12750, but there is a better MU2 now which is €18000
@@D1N02 The Grimm MU2 includes a DAC, so it's not an improved MU1 but in a different product category.
@@Bill.K it integrated the DAC which is entirely custom designed for the streamer. It is still a streamer.
Vocal on Rose is tops compared the other two is the first thing i noticed
1 Auralic 2 Rose 3 Eversolo. Between Aries and Rose there are LITTLE little differences , with Eversolo more evidence. At this point Eversolo 8 sholuld be interessing.
Easy test (at 4K - AAC 192 kbps) 👈
1st Auralic Aries G2.2 - 100 points
2nd Eversolo A6 ME upg - 95 points
3rd HiFi Rose RS 130 - 80 points
Maybe with other amplifiers, class A or AB, Eversolo is better but with these FOSI+Sparkos there is an excess of clarity in the high frequencies with your loudspeakers.
I would rule out Hifi Rose RS 130.
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I don’t like this kind of test, because a ethernet cable like a FTA metis can change so much the sound, depending the ethernet card construction can be a huge upgrade. Owning a Taiko extreme I can say that roon is colored and not the best software to test
Thank you for sharing.
Yes I agree, the Rose is for more mellow relaxed system that needs a bit more sparkle. Eversolo is the best Bang for the Buck, and Auralic present the most ananog yet full and dynamic sound character :)
Hifi rose has a optical rj45 connection is that used? So the amplification maybe should be a higher amp i think
I just saw your video very well done; which MacBook did you have? I am presently using a MacBook . what about the DMP8 eversolo as a Preamp? Thank you.
Curious for the new dac 😉 Audial? 😅 These are nice streamers but way to expensive for me, I´m also an Android user and prefer a good and simple app. I wonder how much difference there will be with for example an Volumio Rivo with good power supply..
Noted! We will see if I can get one ;)
For now let's say that I have 2 DACs - Holo Audio May and Meitner MA3 and I fell in love with one of them ;)
In your system with that DAC I like the 2.2 the best. I also prefer the A6 over the Rose.
I will be sticking with my A6 but will be upgrading the power supply to the PD Creative from Poland. Did you ever have a chance to hear this power supply?
Thank you for sharing your comment. Unfortunately I did not hear the PD Creative power supply.
I'll go for the HiFi Rose for it's bravery and fullness; Although the Auralic is a great device as well and sounds sweet. My pick HiFi Rose, nice looking device as well but they have to match Eversolo in the Apps
Yes the Rose is the best looking Streamer I saw and I love the concept, the functionalities and the sound. It will shine in all systems that need more openness and a bit of sparkle ;)
thanks for video ! greate comparison
Glad you liked it! 😊
They are all good; people should be happy with any Especially With the Eversolo & Aurarlic.
I totally agree ;)
Witaj sąsiedzie! U mnie Rose 130 doskonale zgrała się z lekko ocieplonym dźwiękiem Holo Audio May KTE. No i połączenie I2S też robi różnicę!
Super, extraze się zgrywa bo właśnie jedzie do mnie taki sam DAC. Kolega przywiózł Springa i no cóż mam powiedzieć ... tego nikt się nie spodzoewał ;)
@@VirtualHiFi to czekam na recenzje!
How did you connect the RS130 to the May Dac I2S? I have the same equipment but have not been able to get the May to work with the RS130 I2S connection.
Hello, I did not have the May , but Sring one, i did not connect it to the rose though since rose was already returned and we listened to the Weiss vs Spring on the Auralic G2.2
@@jscol34 A Mode in I2S OUT on Rose and I2S1-A3 on May
Brother, I love the Quilio IQ speakers! I am working on getting a set to me from across the pond!!!
Thank you for the very positive feedback. There are many of them already in the USA and Canada and all owners are very happy. Let me know in the comments what is your room size and electronics. They do love the good control from AB and D class amps ;)
I don't know if it's my age but I would be happy with the Eversolo streamer. I found that the dac+streamer has the least impact on the system sound.
Great you found Roon, costly, but the best music management/playback software at the time.
My streaming/DAC solution is Linn Selekt DSM with their Organik DAC.
Yes it definitely adds another level of dimension and richness. It must be a great system with the Linn. congrats 🎉
Sound is nice and clear even its just a video capture
Ever solo is good here! Natural piano, many overtones! Auralic good too, may be better, but don’t sure. Я бы не стал менять Eversolo ))
im sticking with my eversolo to be honest. in my opinion it sounds the best. thanks for the vid.
Sure, the ever solo has the best overall value. The A6 ME has the most pronounced midrange so it has a very nice appeal ;)
Hi, great comparison! I'm on similar trip 🙂. Lookin for ultimate streaming transport for my system. I wonder if you have an opinion about Innuos pulse, zenith or any other.
First, thanks for producing content like this. I spent way too much time listening to this, considering that it is a UA-cam video. I would suggest a greater range of genres to present as audition because they are all too similar being acoustic jazz/pop. Great music but way too limited. The over arching theme to me was that there really isn’t much in it between these three. I did hear some differences but nothing in quality really. Any sonic characteristic differences may likely be indiscernible with more complex music. I thought the Denafrips vs A6 video showed greater difference between the two even with the same basic music. I listened via my high end headphone setup twice then went ahead and hooked up my computer to my main 2 channel system for a final comparison.
Cutting to the chase, over headphones I chose the Rose 130 as tops on 2 songs (Chlara/Yamamoto) and 2nd on the other 2. I chose the A6 as top on two (James/Chamberlain), but 2nd (Yamamoto) and 3rd on the other (Chlara). The Auralic was 2nd on the Chlara and 3rd on the other 3. On my speakers, the A6 maintained the same spots, but the Rose dropped its 2nd to 3rd thus the Auralic had two 2’s and two 3’s. Bottom line, if price was equal I’d probably choose the Rose 130 over the A6 and the A6 over the G2.2. Given the GUI interface/apps and that the A6 is soooo much less expensive, I don’t hear enough to make me chose the others over the A6. That’s my impressions of the three. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing. Yes I'm getting back to my old tracks now with more different music. Hope you'll enjoy that ;)
Thank you for sharing your opinion. I also like the A6 ME very much, but just got the Auralic, to add some meat to the sound ;)
Question for you; please explain why the data stream sounds different. Are you using any EQ functionality? Is the output volume calibrated between the streamers?
I always check the volume with SPL meter and pink noise. They play at the same volume. There is an audible difference between streamers. Is it due to one and zeros being changed somewhere in the middle ? Not sure. But the difference is there for sure ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Thanks. If the one and zeros are being altered then there is something wrong because there is no such thing. There either is or it isnt a data stream.
I know it's strange but there is a definite difference. Maybe audiophiles are the ones that can find a hole in the Matrix ;)
Seeing that R2R DACs are known for their "analogue-iness" and holographic presentation, which of these streamers would you prefer with let's say Holo Audio May? I'm currently rocking Eversolo A6 ME with upgraded PSU but I'm intrigued by Hifi Rose RS130 now as it also seems to be offering what I'd need from streamer (local library playback from either M.2 drive or USB, wifi connectivity with an app to control the unit and USB output). It's not that I don't like the A6 in my system and I actually don't really need more holography nor soundstage (which is something you highlighted as main improvement on RS130 when compared to A6), May is already great at that, but perhaps I could fancy a tad more punch and control in lower frequencies. Plus I'm not sure whether the A6 does my system enough justice - while I understand price is not everything, it's a fraction of a cost of my other main components (aforementioned Holo Audio May KTE, then for amps I have Holo Audio Bliss KTE and Feliks Audio Euforia Evo and quite a wide variety of top of the line headphones). Anyway, great hearing your thoughts on differences between the units.
I'm only listening through the Macbook speakers but it keeps following the same pattern, the eversolo sounds very good, smooth but a little soft, then the Hifi rose sounds a little better, more livlier and real but then another improvement when you switch to the Auralic, there's more detail, like the volume and treble is turned up. Even individual instruments and vocals have more depth and interest to them.
Thank you for sharing your opinion ;) 😊
I rank the A6 in the top spot followed by the Auralic then the Rose. The A6 seems to have more air up top..the Auralic might have a more complete spectrum but I have to say the Rose seems to put a veil over the music.
Although..it’s hard to really say that a streamer alone sounds like anything..would it sound “better” with a different DAC?
For the record I don’t own any of them..
Wow, clearly, I mean CLEARLY, there is an audible difference between the 3. I prefer the Aries G2.2. on your setup. The clarity, soundstage, the leading edge of the notes more outlined. The Rose was just to boomy and warm, which muddied up the midrange. The Eversolo to me was last, to mechanical. I use the Electrocompaniet ECM 1.
A fun video, thank you. 👌🎼✨
Thanks for sharing your feedback. Indeed this time I agree, the more money spent the better sound is ;)
Your summary is very close to what I heard. I couldn't understand that in the summary of virtualHifi the Hifi Rose was seen so positive. To me it also sounded too warm. That of course could be my personal preference. The auralic almost sounded too bright but I guess it would be my favourite. I also liked the Eversolo over the Rose. I don't want to say that this would be the same if I heard it live but I only wanted to share my impression in the video which especially with the Rose meets yours.
Hi, what is the Qts value for your F10 Select? I have open baffle setup the higher the qts vale it is better for open baffle applications. I am diving into open baffle speaker building, and I do realise any open baffle sub cannot match the dedicated sub, so I have incorporated two SVS subs in my system. I went for SVS subs than REL because SVS can be adjusted on the fly through the dedicated app, to your harts content. Your speakers are excellent incorporating the best of open baffle and closed cabinets for lower frequencies. Thanks.
They sound very similar but at times the HiFi Rose seems to have a darker background and a bit more decay.
thanks for sharing your opinion ;)
Just discovered your channel and loved this review and the review of the ZA3. It's no nonsense and to the point :) Thank you! Can you please tell me what you are using for the preamplifier?
Welcome aboard! Thank you very much for your comment and feedback. I am not using a preamp now and change the volume (occasionally) on both Fosi amps. I don't like regulating volume at n
Roon/streamer/dać level since more often than not it's damaging the sound way more than a classical potentiometer.
Wow! Would have never thought of doing that. So basically the line level signal comes from the Weiss DAC straight to the FOSIs?
Yes. Exactly ;)
Thanks for the comparison, its been pleasure to watch and listen, thank you.
I have been looking into this topic myself for some time now, my experience so far is that dmp demolishes almost everything in its class and well above.
Price doesn't reflect performance and this is more true in digital domain,
in the above I didn't like the auralic, mid and higher mid far to forward and almost in your face, I don't like this kind of presentation...
dpm is in top league here with rose, I would be happy with either, throwing into the mix price, I think there is only one winner, punching well above its weight category.
Great video, great recording skills!, It is possible to hear differences between all three. But why are there there differences again ? Embedded DSP effects is the answer as all these products have signal processing baked in. Harmonic excitation in the 500 Hz to 1.5k Hz range accentuates voices and instruments i.e. 3D like. Spatial effects are achieved by delaying and/or repeating parts of the signal along with stereo widening effects. Analyze the raw and processed signals to see the differences. High end audio is like smart phone cameras, processed to perfection.
Thanks for your comment. It may be so since everything matters, the power supply, application, topology, cables, connectors etc. the most important thing is that there is a difference and the only question left is is it reasonable for each of us to spend our limited resources on this one particular component. ;)
In digital domain I agree that that audio circuit design can make a difference, but a relatively minor one. The biggest effects are from the flavor of DSP algorithms used by various manufacturers. If anyone doubts this then I encourage them to install a programmable DSP in the signal path and experiment. With a few careful tweaks you can replicate high end sound even on modest equipment. For example, you can make FS speakers sound like open baffles, increase or reduce the size of the sound stage, have voices to pop out of the mix, etc. with a few DSP settings tweaks. People should be aware of what is really going on. @@VirtualHiFi
@@williamobrien6936agree 100%. These "high end" manufacturers will have you believe that it's the quality of the parts that create the sound but anyone who has a good understanding of digital electronics knows this is not true. They will tell you that jitter is a problem so you need super expensive stable oscillators when in reality a sufficiently stable clock for SPDIF will cost very little. If it's "bit perfect" it will sound 100% the same. If you're hearing differences, this is down to baked-in DSP. EQ, phase shift etc. you'll only be able to see this by doing packet analysis on the digital output.
Wow if Android is so much better, you had so many issues ... 😜
Based on your sound test... all did sound good and I agree w your ranking.
The Auralic sounded best but it was really a close call.
I think some of the differences beyond sound are the types of inputs and use cases.
Nice presentation.
Too bad you voided your warranty on the Eversolo w the upgraded power supply. (I'd do the same.)
Are your speakers on demo anywhere in the uk ?
At the moment we have no dealers in UK. We have quite a few happy customers though, so please let me know where do you live. Maybe there is someone close by. There is 30 day return period for the speakers. However over 100 pairs sold last year and no one ever returned them ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Listening through my little desktop Audioengine A2s, your music sounded amazing! Would love to hear your floor standers in person!