Baby Grand VS Grand Pianos What's the Difference

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
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    Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I'm Robert Estrin. Today I'm going to talk about the differences between baby grands and grand pianos. You might just think one's bigger than the other. That is an intelligent observation. But really, there are 3 fundamental differences between baby grand and grand pianos. I'm going to break it down for you today.

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  • @Zman44444
    @Zman44444 5 місяців тому +6

    I like that you don’t act as someone better than others. This is informative. You’re a teacher, exposing people to the world of pianos without making them feel uncomfortable or awkward.
    Amazing video!

    • @LivingPianosVideos
      @LivingPianosVideos  5 місяців тому +3

      My goal is to share my experience and love of the piano, not to show off!

  • @michaelfairley4157
    @michaelfairley4157 2 роки тому +14

    Very informative discussion. I have a baby grand due to room size constraints, but I absolutely love the sounds that come out of that piano and it is so loud that I almost never play with the top fully open as I would need ear plugs practicing for 2 hours at time.

    • @Paigebuuckets
      @Paigebuuckets 2 роки тому +3

      i would love one but i unfortunately don’t have the money

    • @thomastereszkiewicz2241
      @thomastereszkiewicz2241 5 місяців тому

      you might need some regulation on the hammers, the letoff and string tension might need adjustment.

  • @sarahhill2281
    @sarahhill2281 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks 😊 for wonderful explanation of what difference between them. We need to know more about the general knowledge of piano!

  • @surrealistidealist
    @surrealistidealist 2 роки тому +14

    Excuse me for the totally random question, but do you dream about pianos? Because I do, pretty much every night! 😅
    I never had my own piano. I taught myself how to play by sneaking into the music building on my college campus, and then into various churches and the lobbies of hotels, businesses and other public areas.
    I started to develop a sixth sense for where I could find a piano that was unguarded and not locked. And for years, this has become a recurring thing in so many of my dreams. I'm always trying to sneak my way over to a piano and then play it well enough not to be asked to leave! 😅🤣
    Sorry for leaving a comment that has almost nothing to do with your video. I started off thinking about how cool it is that each piano has its own unique and special feel to it, and then my mind went to another round and I just needed to get this off of my chest. 😅

    • @Timzart7
      @Timzart7 2 роки тому +2

      I grew up teaching myself to play piano on a junky upright that was a whole step out of tune, until I bought a tuning hammer and tuned it myself. My recurring dream about grand pianos was finding one in my grandmother's house and her giving it to me. I understand that kind of yearning. In my 30s, I saved enough money and was debating between a new large upright that sounded great and a new 7'3" grand. Years before, as a music student at music school (studying wind instruments, but some piano) in the US and Europe, I'd played plenty of decent grand pianos, but when I got my own dream piano I selected an upright for its price, and discovered something. I didn't really care that much about piano, and also the thing I liked most about pianos is having one that is not only a decent instrument, but freshly tuned. Ultimately, digital pianos solved that need, and the developments in the last 10 years are significant in how good they sound. At some point, I stopped having piano dreams, and would not even want a good Steinway grand if it were possible for me to afford such an expensive instrument. I also wouldn't play it much if one were given to me.
      Anyway, the time when I was piano shopping, and tried hundreds, including at Steinway in New York, I discovered I couldn't tolerate the sound of any grand less than 5'8". The large uprights also sounded pretty good. I understand how some people who play piano, love the piano, can appreciate having a very good piano to play, but I found that piano lust was a remnant from my childhood and teenage years. With most instruments though, there is a fine line between something which plays and sounds decent, and the ultimate instrument. And yet those prices between pretty good and great can go up by thousands, or even millions, on violin, for example.
      The popular youtuber Francesco Parrino had a big influence on the way I thought about digital pianos. Now he is a Steinway rep/influencer and plays only on them but for years he played a digital piano and incredibly, his playing on a digital instrument is every bit as entertaining and fun to listen to, compared to the Steinway. With digital, he records using software piano sounds, not the sound native to his instrument.

    • @surrealistidealist
      @surrealistidealist 2 роки тому +1

      @@Timzart7 That was wonderful to read about! Thank you!

    • @KenWangpiano
      @KenWangpiano Рік тому +2

      I've only dreamt about pianos once in my life, but for one night I was transported into the Swiss Alps mountains where fields of Bösendorfers imperial 290s were positioned for me to play on and I was accompanied by my fellow musicians. Very strange dream, and one that I wish I could have again

    • @surrealistidealist
      @surrealistidealist Рік тому

      @@KenWangpiano Awesome!!!

    • @maxischmidt8845
      @maxischmidt8845 Рік тому +1

      When you dream of pianos at night, playing on one should be your natural right.

  • @smbrooksus
    @smbrooksus 2 роки тому +6

    Great overview of fundamentals of scale design. I have a 6' 11 ' Yamaha C6. I've worked my way up to it. But, you also need a big room to really hear the angels sing. Sadly, I can afford more piano than house. But still, I love 7' pianos.

    • @g.970
      @g.970 2 роки тому +2

      I had a Yamaha C7 F until I downsized house and had to sell it. Beautiful piano. I’ve now lived in my smaller home for 15 years and came to the conclusion the C7 could have fit if I didn’t have a sofa. So this year I bit the bullet and bought a 7’ Shigeru Kawai and got rid of the sofa. Certainly cost me more $ than that C7 when I bought it new, but oh well. I love the SK. Besides……who needs a sofa? There’s nothing like that bass on a 7 footer.

    • @RobertSmith-le8wp
      @RobertSmith-le8wp Рік тому

      I agree about the Kawai. They are fantastic pianos in the 5’ to 7’ or bigger range. I liked the action and overall sound better than anything else in the same budget range

  • @WolfieNamira
    @WolfieNamira 4 місяці тому

    I was wondering why the lowest notes on my baby grand is hard to tune in the low end... this is so informative!

  • @RaoYiLan
    @RaoYiLan 3 місяці тому

    Very interesting. I've often noticed that the bass notes on a piano sound growly and not so clear, and now I know why!

  • @rayryan2778
    @rayryan2778 2 роки тому +3

    Great explanation. Thank you.

  • @stacerogers4008
    @stacerogers4008 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. I was fortunate enough to find a 7’ Dietmann grand piano selling for a very low price. Whilst I know very little about the brand except that is is at the budget end of the spectrum. Having played several far more expensive yet smaller Yamaha and Kawai grand pianos, the larger size instantly gave this piano amazing depth of bass and wonderful touch. I’m very glad to have enough space the bigger piano.

  • @garycitro1674
    @garycitro1674 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for clearing up some of the vagueness.
    Whatever happened with the prototype?

  • @MarkHopewell
    @MarkHopewell Рік тому

    Thank you, Robert. A very interesting presentation, as always. Thank you.

  • @salemnj1
    @salemnj1 Рік тому +1

    This was very informative. Thanks for posting. :)

  • @johncanfield1177
    @johncanfield1177 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much, Robert. I'm a late comer to this video, but I enjoyed it very much.

  • @MrSweelinck
    @MrSweelinck 2 роки тому +2

    A lot rides on that "all things being equal" ... There are a lot of bigger pianos that work great as furniture, not so much as instruments.

  • @wenzehanliu2041
    @wenzehanliu2041 2 роки тому

    String length is important of course, but you have to consider other parameters like the design and material. I‘ve played a Bösendorfer 140, which has shorter string length than a small upright piano, the bass sounds much better than a normal-conditioned 7 foot Yamaha C6 (without X)

  • @leesimmons42
    @leesimmons42 8 місяців тому

    Very helpful

  • @vickiehorowitz1934
    @vickiehorowitz1934 2 роки тому

    I just upgraded from a 1985 5'8" Mason & Hamlin to a 6'6" Shigeru Kawai SK5. I loved my old Mason but it pales in comparison to my Shigeru. Am amazing instrument. It took me a year to find a used one and I found one that looks and plays showroom new.

    • @thomastereszkiewicz2241
      @thomastereszkiewicz2241 5 місяців тому

      bigger pianos usually sound better especially if they are properly regulated and tuned.

  • @clydebermingham121
    @clydebermingham121 2 роки тому

    🙏🏾💥👍🏾🤗
    THANKS MUCH , MR. ESTRIN 🙏🏾🤗🙏🏾

  • @mozartrn1
    @mozartrn1 2 роки тому +1

    Very interesting! I have a 5'4" Boston and have been not necessarily agonizing but thinking of upgrading to a larger piano although room size and of course pocket book has kept me wondering what would be wise.....

    • @g.970
      @g.970 2 роки тому +1

      Go for it. Pianos just keep going up in price. Do it now if you can

    • @RobertSmith-le8wp
      @RobertSmith-le8wp Рік тому

      I would highly recommend the Kawais in the 5’-7’ range, great prices and the quality and action are fantastic

  • @mr.stefanmarkus
    @mr.stefanmarkus 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic!🙋‍♂️

  • @echochambers777
    @echochambers777 2 роки тому

    Great insights with this video. Thank you. Does the plate type come into play? Meaning does a V-Pro plate vs wet sand cast plate impact the sound differently on baby grands than grands?

  • @andygoh8681
    @andygoh8681 2 роки тому

    A terrific video indeed

  • @HWLee-vu4hv
    @HWLee-vu4hv 2 роки тому

    Super interesting!

  • @hastensavoir7782
    @hastensavoir7782 2 роки тому +5

    Baby Grand= 5 ft
    Grand= 6 ft
    Parlour Grand= 5’4- 5’10
    Semi Concert Grand= 6’10- 7’6
    Concert Grand= 8”11- 10’3

    • @thomastereszkiewicz2241
      @thomastereszkiewicz2241 5 місяців тому

      i've never seen a concert grand at 10 feet three inches, which company makes one that large?

    • @hastensavoir7782
      @hastensavoir7782 5 місяців тому

      @@thomastereszkiewicz2241 Fazioli 😊

  • @emojijoyio
    @emojijoyio 10 місяців тому

    I have a baby Grand piano

  • @tiffanyholmes4960
    @tiffanyholmes4960 2 роки тому

    Do you have a vertical victory piano to critique?

  • @johanbrand8601
    @johanbrand8601 2 роки тому

    And of course the same implies to taller upright pianos. I've never seen one though.

  • @yourfuneraldirector6432
    @yourfuneraldirector6432 2 роки тому

    When I decided to upgrade my grand, I wouldn't settle for anything in the showroom less than 7 feet. I am happy I spent the dough.

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    @deniandri5959 6 місяців тому

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  • @longhair-dontcare9983
    @longhair-dontcare9983 Рік тому

    @ 2:38 I want a "ridiculously long" piano but my budget says "baby!" :(

  • @treedeblue
    @treedeblue 2 роки тому

    Come on! It’s a obvious difference!!!!

    • @treedeblue
      @treedeblue 2 роки тому

      @@Jordan-ug7yk much bigger sound.

    • @marshallsmith1366
      @marshallsmith1366 2 роки тому +1

      The bigger sound is not really important. It is the effect of strike line and its effect on the feel of the action as well as the diminished sound of the fundamental due to string design. If it was about a bigger sound he wouldn't make a video.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 2 роки тому

      @@marshallsmith1366 it is important if you want it to project well in a larger space. Still agree with your points🎹🎶

    • @treedeblue
      @treedeblue 2 роки тому

      @@marshallsmith1366 I stand corrected.