Can Two Speed Controllers Run One Hub Motor???

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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    -Hub motor MXUS FX04 250 Watt 36 Volts
    -Controller 250Watt 36 Volts (can run halless)
    -Power Meter 60V max 150A Watt meter

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  • @golgothapro
    @golgothapro 3 роки тому +4

    Likely a disparity in speed reference calibration. You could scope the output waveforms and compare them to check.

  • @renegarcia1807
    @renegarcia1807 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the tips I thought it would work but yeah one controller protects from the other it makes sense

  • @46B3x2you
    @46B3x2you 4 роки тому +13

    Well. I appreciate your honesty. You never know until your try. Thanks.

  • @Persanity
    @Persanity 2 роки тому

    Holy shit that opening beeping 😳

  • @mandisimlilo3539
    @mandisimlilo3539 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for great work

  • @babisvavouliotis1507
    @babisvavouliotis1507 3 роки тому +1

    I think both controllers need signal from hall sensors for the timing.. speed controllers need to know the position of the rotor

  • @mwbgaming28
    @mwbgaming28 5 років тому +2

    Can you drive 2 motors using separate controllers from the same throttle?

    • @EVCustoms
      @EVCustoms  5 років тому +1

      Yes of curse..

    • @mwbgaming28
      @mwbgaming28 5 років тому

      @@EVCustoms how would you wire that up? Do you connect both the controllers throttle inputs in parallel?

    • @chuckmerja
      @chuckmerja 4 роки тому

      @@mwbgaming28 yes. ua-cam.com/video/ZQV1UNtwNpM/v-deo.html

    • @jonhinman2471
      @jonhinman2471 2 роки тому

      @@mwbgaming28 The throttle is a variable resistance, which is usually calibrated when the controllers are turned on. So wiring them in parallel is a safe bet. The resistance won't be as high since you've got two controllers feeding current through the throttle, however the throttle will control the resistance for both at the same time in that configuration. Did you end up getting it to work?

  • @michaelstevencalvobolanos2482
    @michaelstevencalvobolanos2482 2 роки тому +1

    Hola buenas muy buen video, y que tal alreves un controlador de 1500 watts por ejemplo a 2 motored de 500 se podría es para un proyecto que tengo la duda

  • @youdidwhatnow
    @youdidwhatnow 4 роки тому +2

    i missed it , were the controllers in parallel ? if so could you run in series to the motor so it double voltage?

    • @accountdeleted9845
      @accountdeleted9845 4 роки тому

      ??

    • @karim1485
      @karim1485 4 роки тому +1

      Do you still need an answer to that question or did you realize what you were asking? 😂

    • @aznative_
      @aznative_ 3 роки тому +2

      The energy coming in the controller is DC the energy coming out of the controller is three-phase AC. You can't run 3-phase AC in series.

  • @emitting
    @emitting Рік тому

    Great video. Now I know I can't do that. 👍👍

  • @Rainbow__cookie
    @Rainbow__cookie 2 роки тому

    It feels like running 2 amps in parallel
    There are mosfets inside if you ad more you get more wattage
    But there is driver Circuit inside that cant be very happy

  • @VittorioVolta
    @VittorioVolta 5 років тому +1

    Интересное видео, но только зачем такой эксперимент? Если чтобы поднять мощность то можно просто в одном контроллере заменить полевики на более мощные и залудить шунт тли добавить ещё один..

    • @EVCustoms
      @EVCustoms  5 років тому

      Moi drug Niko, eto tolko prostoi experement dlia tex kator6ie xotiat eto uvrdet v realnosti...

    • @АНЯВОЙНО
      @АНЯВОЙНО 5 років тому

      Не все же понимают, что можно какие-то полевеки заменить на какие-то помощнее, это какие? и что это такое, и где этот шунт, мне проще два контроллера запаралелить, это всеравно дешевле чем один мощный.

    • @mkurb7198
      @mkurb7198 5 років тому

      Shunt ne kazhdit smozhet , oche chasto kuskio olova ostayutsya vnutri :)))
      Eto naverno dlya teh kto ne hochet payat i kopatsta mirksohemah
      moroz zimoi ya paregruzhal 6 raz
      o ne grelzya dazhe no tyaga bila sumashedshaya fat bike podninimal koleso na ldu
      ( rezina s shipam) kogda to potepllelo chut chut ya postavil takie krilashki na spizi kotorie obduvali motor. Dazhe vodu provodil k motoroy kotoruyu otkritem kranom spuskal na motor, nu koroche durachisya voda kstate neplogoi variant kogda nuzhna moshnost v kakoi to realnoi situaziii mne bilo intersno ubit desheviy dvigatel deshevim kontrolerom kotory ya usilival
      v hod shlo vse dazhe zapchasti ot kompa. seichas postacil 2 motora pprosto i 52 volta na 17 v gory tyanet vdovem s razgonom do 32 35 km cgas

    • @mkurb7198
      @mkurb7198 5 років тому

      Shunt eto perepmichka kvadratnaya
      pohozha na tolstiyu skrepku ot staplera
      ego prosto delayut tolshe napaivayut olovo shtov bolshe toka propuskal vot i vse no eto opasno dlya teh kto plogo payaet kusok mozhet otvalitsya olova
      o zamknut konotroller mozhno prosto super kleem prekleet eshe odin shunt k drugomu i vse eto zamazat zhjidkoi lentoiy proverenno uzhe ne lomalsya god

  • @yashgorde4201
    @yashgorde4201 5 років тому +1

    Wouldn't running two motors on the same controller drain the battery faster?

  • @florinspice8071
    @florinspice8071 2 роки тому

    U need one way diodes on each conroller output phases !! !

  • @silesiadiver
    @silesiadiver 5 років тому

    Hi, i Just bought New controller 36v 250w and have problem:
    Wheel connected +Hull cables
    Power cables pluged to acu.
    Nothing else connected yet.
    When i connect Red and Orange cable (power switch cables), wheel starts to spin and scooter rides in that Mode 5km/h
    When i connect throtle and Press it down, wheel stops to spin and starts spinning again without letting throtle.
    Please help

  • @jameskirby5070
    @jameskirby5070 2 роки тому

    Can you write down exactly what wires got to what wires, like a diagram plz. I can't follow your video its to fast , and doesn't explain exactly what to do

  • @Suprem3GamerDamianWinchester
    @Suprem3GamerDamianWinchester 3 роки тому +1

    Why would someone run 1 hub motor using 2 controllers? How about you make it 5 controllers on one hub motor??????

  • @dingski_diy
    @dingski_diy 3 роки тому

    any update? put diode on the 2nd controllers phase wire..

    • @EVCustoms
      @EVCustoms  3 роки тому

      My friend.. with this way it is impossible...

    • @dingski_diy
      @dingski_diy 3 роки тому

      @@EVCustoms the 2nd controller cut offs beacuse it sense incoming current, just like when you ride downhill, the motor hub becomes generator and supply current to the battery.

  • @artemnoz
    @artemnoz 5 років тому

    I think one controller goes to recuperation mode when another works fine

  • @cesarhuamani4647
    @cesarhuamani4647 4 роки тому

    Intenta con 2 motores y dos controladoras ?

  • @noeldebelen6229
    @noeldebelen6229 4 роки тому

    is the speed increase?

  • @abhishekdhaka1230
    @abhishekdhaka1230 4 роки тому

    How can we charge bttery by motor on downhill.
    Please assist some idea

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 4 роки тому +1

      If you already have "e-brake" (brake lever with switch for regen braking), tune them so you can engage the ebrake without engaging the mechanical brake. They should be like that anyway, to save your brake pads.

  • @qball6520
    @qball6520 4 роки тому +2

    And a use for this is????????

    • @fun_ghoul
      @fun_ghoul 4 роки тому

      If it worked, it would allow for twice the current of a single controller, as well as redundancy (i.e. bike still works if one controller fails).

  • @Etrueyeei
    @Etrueyeei 5 років тому

    cruise control wiring please

  • @aznative_
    @aznative_ 3 роки тому

    These controllers and hub motors are running AC. They're each throwing out a sine wave. They're never going to be in sync. I'm not exactly sure why someone would want to run two motor controllers on one motor anyway unless they were just frankensteining something together.

    • @jonhinman2471
      @jonhinman2471 2 роки тому

      And why exactly couldn't they be in sync? The entire AC grid staying in sync, this isn't rocket science or ultra high frequency.... Yes it's 'frankensteining' but that's kind of the point of diy. By doing this I can use two controllers that cost about 1/6th the price of equivalent, saving nearly a third, AND have redundancy; with more power

    • @aznative_
      @aznative_ 2 роки тому

      @@jonhinman2471 I guess you reminded me to never say never. What I should have said was I don't believe they would be in sync and I personally don't know how to make them be in sync. Doing things on a budget always intrigues me so if you have more information I would love to hear it.

  • @RaymondStecroix
    @RaymondStecroix 4 роки тому

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    • @EVCustoms
      @EVCustoms  4 роки тому

      Search on Aliexpress or ebay for step down regulator boards..

  • @shravana_10
    @shravana_10 5 років тому

    👍👏🥇🚲

  • @kingelectronic1053
    @kingelectronic1053 5 років тому

    Preis in Pakistan
    Good

  • @qwerty8423
    @qwerty8423 4 роки тому +5

    In the last 30 seconds of the video, after you connected both hall sensors, you state: 'same problem'
    But I saw on your watt meters that both controllers were supplying power to the motor then,
    (both supplying about 12 Watts) so it looked like it was working fine then, so it seemed to me it was NOT the same problem.

  • @deanmav3571
    @deanmav3571 4 роки тому +5

    thanks, i was looking for one video like yours

  • @24cata24
    @24cata24 Рік тому +2

    the power of one controller, goes to the motor and in the other controller via output. Try putting 3 diodes on the output of both controllers so no power goes back in them. Should work as the have hall sensors and dont rely on back emf

  • @Shakingstevesallotment
    @Shakingstevesallotment Рік тому +1

    Can two hub motors and two speed controllers be run from one battery, having problems getting both to work at same time, thought you might help

  • @shpaq991
    @shpaq991 3 роки тому +2

    You should try this with load on the motor. With no load there is no need for more power and one of controllers is not used.

  • @katiekumcgil
    @katiekumcgil Рік тому +2

    ive got a feeling youd need some beefy diodes on the phase wires
    and a syncronised hall output thats isolated from each other

    • @01Joemama
      @01Joemama 4 місяці тому

      I thought the same, any ideas on the size of diode for 48v 20a 2000w controller?

  • @Nosci1020
    @Nosci1020 3 роки тому +2

    so it works? and what benefits it gives? less stress to only one controller? means less heat?

    • @jonhinman2471
      @jonhinman2471 2 роки тому +1

      Great question! In my case, I investigated this because running two controllers in parallel will in theory double the available current, so two 60a controllers will handle 120a at the same voltage. This allows for two main advantages then; redundancy in case one controller has a problem, and most appealing to me, using less expensive controllers in parallel to achieve higher overall power output since more amps at same voltage will equate to that.

  • @DangvilGermanyRLP
    @DangvilGermanyRLP 7 місяців тому

    Thlnk with 2 full electronic double closed loop MCUs it should be possible.
    I was well sueposed when I saw the newest Generation Models by looking in web yesterday.
    There are some controller types with 18 mosfet & and 16Bit Tecnology 😮.

  • @rodzeemateo1500
    @rodzeemateo1500 5 років тому +2

    How about the wattage of your controller to motor hub?

  • @MK-ks4pw
    @MK-ks4pw 2 роки тому +1

    Hello. Your video it really great. But please tell me if i have two controllers but there is the option of three speed witch. How do i connect the wires ? do you think i can use one switch wit three speed option to connect two controllers together ? or i need to have a second switch ? an connect them separately ? thank you for your help an answer.

    • @didihamdiillah1764
      @didihamdiillah1764 2 роки тому +1

      Do you have the answer already? i also have the same problem

    • @ayyongnolasco3680
      @ayyongnolasco3680 2 роки тому

      Just add another switch to make less complicated. But i think u can also parallel all the 3 wires. The grounds and the two wires

  • @findkip
    @findkip Рік тому

    Reading really

  • @LCSC300t
    @LCSC300t 4 роки тому +1

    This may be a noob question but I was hoping when I found this video that it would work. Would it possibly work with diodes on the cables or if not how could you boost the watts a controller can put out without leaving the recommended volts. to simplify, is it possible even if it is not cost effective? How, I would really appreciate a link to a product or diy video.

    • @qs138v3
      @qs138v3 3 роки тому +1

      You could trick it into believing it is pulling less amps by adding more solder around the shunt resistor, the shunt has a specified resistance and by lowering it you will trick the controller

  • @sivodesilva9866
    @sivodesilva9866 Рік тому

    Aij

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      @yohanesfaomberepjhony8793 Рік тому

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  • @esprit3d806
    @esprit3d806 2 роки тому

    how to make simple bms to communicate with RS485 with two wheeler display indication

  • @mihaiiorgu6756
    @mihaiiorgu6756 6 місяців тому

    you laced the controller in parallel. what if you put them in series? would it work and double the wattage ? from 2x 500w make 1000w

  • @anthonyvandenham4340
    @anthonyvandenham4340 Рік тому

    Do You Know What The Pin Wire Colours Are In order At The Controller End Of It5 cable .The Accelerator And Brake Wires Are Different Colours In The it5Cable

  • @yaumatijordan9157
    @yaumatijordan9157 3 роки тому

    Hi friend ,my ebic lankeleisi is using same type of control unit ,which seems not working ,the control unit is sealed ,display cannot turn on ,can I get a 48 v 400 watts controls unit

  • @arnelapolinario5905
    @arnelapolinario5905 Рік тому

    Can use One controller with two hub motor?

    • @EVCustoms
      @EVCustoms  Рік тому

      Hi... unfortunately no my friend

  • @orangepeace9900
    @orangepeace9900 4 роки тому

    I have a question?? I got a mc 60 treadmill controller ok I want to convert it over to dc current its ac current now I may be able to pull this off I am gonna be experimenting this weekend and monday in my college class I got for intermediate controls hvac the teacher said bring it in so that's what i am gonna do

  • @TESBADWOLF
    @TESBADWOLF 4 роки тому

    What about connecting 2 different throttles? Where as in each controller is half the power of the motor? 1 fully throttle controller equals 50% motor power and 2 fully throttled controllers equal 100% motor power?

  • @richard76rama
    @richard76rama 3 роки тому

    Do you have any suggestion for a motor controller that can be interfaced with an arduino microcontroller?

  • @SuperMaiki76
    @SuperMaiki76 11 місяців тому

    Could this work if use 2 controllers that is made for dual motors

  • @zaidahmad8940
    @zaidahmad8940 4 роки тому

    Instant high power, motor burns very fast

  • @BC-th7wh
    @BC-th7wh 4 роки тому

    This option is for duble controler power ?

  • @davidbarrett7418
    @davidbarrett7418 4 роки тому

    I was just waiting on the hot glue gun to come out like the others do

  • @alfankosh1
    @alfankosh1 5 років тому

    my ebike motor have only 3 wire hall sensor how i connect

  • @iosiflengyel1835
    @iosiflengyel1835 3 роки тому

    Thank You.

  • @ahmetkardes8625
    @ahmetkardes8625 4 роки тому

    Perfect, howto connect brake ?

  • @noppaplays9418
    @noppaplays9418 5 років тому

    But what if you add a diode or rectifier to both controller outputs, would it still go to protection mode?

    • @EVCustoms
      @EVCustoms  5 років тому

      No you can not put rectifiers on hub motor.. because the current goes from two sides..

  • @thecam0073
    @thecam0073 5 років тому

    NICE!!!

  • @davidbaird3560
    @davidbaird3560 4 роки тому

    why?

    • @davidbaird3560
      @davidbaird3560 4 роки тому

      @Dann isNot A man but a deepfake 1 I just dont understand the point of this

  • @amitbhatia9879
    @amitbhatia9879 4 роки тому

    What purpose it solve ..when we join 2 controller with one motor ???

    • @EVCustoms
      @EVCustoms  4 роки тому

      Hi ... Nothing... Only for proof that cannot work... Because many subs ask for that tes...

    • @noeldebelen6229
      @noeldebelen6229 4 роки тому

      what wireless motor can run 90kmph sir?

    • @qwerty8423
      @qwerty8423 4 роки тому

      @noel debelen
      My electric bicycle goes 90km/h
      Look at Aliexpress for this motor:
      Standard 135mm dropout M16 Screw MXUS V3 3000W 3T
      You need a 72v 20Ah battery and a 72v controller

    • @qwerty8423
      @qwerty8423 4 роки тому

      @@noeldebelen6229
      My electric bicycle goes 90km/h
      Look at Aliexpress for this motor:
      Standard 135mm dropout M16 Screw MXUS V3 3000W 3T
      You need a 72v 20Ah battery and a 72v controller

    • @rangkara7201
      @rangkara7201 4 роки тому +1

      more power for the motor? since 2 controllers can handle more currents in parallel than 1 controller?