Martin's pattern is like if you eat a pieces don't stop eating with her because he eats them after two turn if you don't. Exception for the queen if he can eat it after two or three turn he will. Like when your pawn becomes a queen he eats it on the second turn. if you eat a piece that he has just moved he will eat back.
@@np8139 You can tell its just making random bad moves. Its like the claw machine. You can hang your queen 5 times, and 4 times its safe. But you don't know which time.
Which is why he did a lot better once he stopped slow playing it and started taking as many rooks as he could as fast as he could. Every non-capture was just giving Martin more time to accidentally mate him.
@A Guy I did the opposite. I played with all the rooks. I played as poorly as possible. Never captured, and hung a rook every move. Took Martin 150 moves to checkmate me. It was brutal
Nelson just needed to buff his own defense to be able to do it, when Martin could win every single time, if decided to eat every turn, instead of moving rock. 700 elo player atleast would win Nelson with this many rocks every single time, so three layers of rock gives you then chance against normal chess formation.
I'd like to see you playing 20 moves against Stockfish, then recreate that position with you two switching sides. Would be interesting both with terrible AI and great AI, for exactly opposite reasons. Terrible AI might blunder away enough material that you then can't hold the position after switching and Stockfish might get a holdable advantage within the first 20.
Wish you had followed Srockfish's recommendation after you win to see if the evaluation bar was just bugged or if there was actually a galaxy brain line to win.
it hovered around +128 so im guessing theres an overflow somewhere in the code of stockfish since it wasnt designed for this much material being on the board, might be wrong
Nelson I know you prob wont see this but your videos have such a comfortable friendly vibe and I am very happy every time I see one, please keep them going I can tell you many people look forward to them !!
I loved this part 8:37 till 9:01 - you are so into trying to understand his motives and then he brutally captures your knight - "Why did he do that?" made me laugh a lot :D
I've seen Martin get humiliated in sooo many different ways now. Somebody even beat him with just a pawn lol so it was good to see him win 12 games. His lack of chess knowledge probably prevented him from even noticing his huge advantage and he would have enjoyed that.
I think with this type of challenges, you should never make checks because that will just force your piece to be captured. Trying to bamboozle the bot with weird promotions might have done the trick. Wp btw!
Fun fact abt martin: if u promote a pawn to a piece that checks his king, like a rook or a queen he would take it. But underpromoting that pawn to a bishop or a knight doesnt put the king in check vertically, so he woudnt take it.
I haven't really been progressing at chess anymore, I'm stuck at 700, I feel like I'm failing, I watch your videos to help me remember that I should be playing chess for fun, so thank you :) UPDATE: I JUST BEAT A 1247 RATED PUZZLE :D
What helped me a lot was GM Daniel Naroditsky's speedrun. He starts at low elo and slowly introduces new principles and ideas. It brought me from 1200 to 1500 and I'm still winning every game. Also, play longer games and take time calculating! Think about your plans and your opponent's plans. This greatly helped me :)
In fact this position is literally impossible, since even if Martin simply trade rooks for your pieces, he should still have 24 rooks when you only have a king
The fact that Martin can just keep throwing rooks at your pieces with no regards for strategy is beyond me I mean he can literally win by sacrificing 15 rooks maximum while ignoring piece values
i think the eval bar thing where it says white is winning might involve some kind of overflow error within the inner workings of the engine, given it hovers around 128
I'll repeat a request I left on an earlier video for you against Stockfish - use the standard setup, but handicap the 'fish with time controls. See if you can beat it on 1 second per move, then halve its time each time until you can win. (You have no time limit, naturally.) I think I've seen some analysis of milliseconds per move where it seemed like it was "just" a decent human player, so it ought to be winnable at some point. Also, can you pair Martin against Stockfish? I'd love to see Stockfish in the position you had initially, see if it can hold where you couldn't (and tbh, where I doubt any human could).
I knew from the beginning that your problem was thst you were treating it too much like a normal chess game. once you started trying to take as much material as fast as possible you started doing better. Martin is almost random he's at such low depth, so every move you spend not taking when it's mate in 4 or 5 just gives him more time to stumble into a mate he can see.
Challenge: Let Martin do something Select random Martin's piece, excluding pawns, and random square on your side (1-4, if you playing white, 5-8, if you playing black). Your goal is to make that piece move on that square, then repeat with new piece and new square until no pieces remain, than you win
Most people don't know this, but these bots are not actually run by AI. Behind every bot there is a GM trying to emulate the ELO and trying very hard to lose.
I tried the position with two rows of pawns against Martin and won on the first try. If you just take rooks on the left side of the board and maintain both rows of pawns on the right Martin doesn't see checkmate as quick as he does when you don't do that. This makes Martin continuously blunder and then you can win!
I tried it myself and it seems he will almost never recapture a pawn if you take a rook, same for knights. So I managed to beat him using my pawns and horses. I also learned that promoting to a queen never is a good idea as martin will always take it. I instead underpromote to a knight. I also had to avoid checks with the knight because he always defended by capturing my knight
TIP to beat up Martin!: Martin in the most of times do not beat knights *he wil definitly beat you knight when you will have check* In some situations Martin doesn't beat pawns. In some of videos of another youtuber i have seen, that somebody beat up 8 queens with 1 PAWN!
Enjoyable chess games, 90s strategic games like Le Emperor, Panzer General. Addicting and time absorbing, makes the hours fly by. Most these games follow the same precepts of a chess board with its rules.
with that many rooks, why didn't it just always use a rook to take a piece every turn? literally no way you could lose, unless you were trying to lose lol
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This was fun :) How do you set up positions against the bots? I've looked on the website but can't figure it out.
Martin's pattern is like if you eat a pieces don't stop eating with her because he eats them after two turn if you don't. Exception for the queen if he can eat it after two or three turn he will. Like when your pawn becomes a queen he eats it on the second turn. if you eat a piece that he has just moved he will eat back.
What is Eli
Elo
@@sammarks9146 I have the same question ... HOW!!!
Martin : **still has over 15 rooks**
Nelson : This kinda resembles a normal position
Was just coming here to say this 🤣
5 off from theoretical most rooks on a side. 8 pawns into rooks + 2 starting rooks
Lmao
Thankfully I've really been studying my 15 rook vs knight, bishop, rook endgames
The sign of a crazed man
With that many rooks, he could checkmate you by accident just by random moves.
He's like the anti-stockfish. The computer makes a bunch of calculations to figure out the most nonsensical move.
@@np8139 You can tell its just making random bad moves. Its like the claw machine. You can hang your queen 5 times, and 4 times its safe. But you don't know which time.
Which is why he did a lot better once he stopped slow playing it and started taking as many rooks as he could as fast as he could. Every non-capture was just giving Martin more time to accidentally mate him.
He could legit just spam his rooks forward and win
@A Guy I did the opposite. I played with all the rooks. I played as poorly as possible. Never captured, and hung a rook every move. Took Martin 150 moves to checkmate me. It was brutal
Martin was trolling so hard in the fourth game, letting you get a queen and one move before stalemate he checkmates, what a Chad😂
Wtf
@@mangagod2068 what's your problem?
@@mangagod2068??
Wt
Omg wt .... Wtf wtffffffffff
martin is a genius, sacrificing all his pieces and still winning
That's the Zap Brannigan maneuver; greatest tactical genius of the future.
"They can only take your pieces one at a time" - Tal
Fun fact: Scoring 1/13 against a 250-rated opponent gives you a rating of -182 Elo.
So good that he managed to win once.
that info makes me feel like a god
But the odds make him have 9000 more elo
😆
I’ll take negative elo over 47 and a half rooks any day.
Petition to give Martin the Grandmaster title
Looks like you have 94 signatures so far. Maybe 2500 is a fitting goal?
@@clibothy or 250?
I mean I've never completely checkmated him before so...
As a GM, Martin should be a GM
@@redmardamsma7917 it’s a joke buddy
Martin: *wins 12 times
Nelson: *wins just 1 time
Also Nelson: Good game Martin, u never had a chance 🤣
Nelson just needed to buff his own defense to be able to do it, when Martin could win every single time, if decided to eat every turn, instead of moving rock. 700 elo player atleast would win Nelson with this many rocks every single time, so three layers of rock gives you then chance against normal chess formation.
@@jout738 eat the rock
to be fair? he gave himself a big handicap lol 🤣
With +156 material advantage, Martin has no business ever losing
*Playing against a bot that I'm certain makes random moves unless there's a mate in 2*
"What would Martin do?" - Nelson
Martin: has more rooks than ur even allowed pieces
Him: I wasn’t expecting Martin to play so aggressively😂😂😂😂😂
"He knows the move where he moves the rook down"
yes, he indeed knows that one
I'd like to see you playing 20 moves against Stockfish, then recreate that position with you two switching sides. Would be interesting both with terrible AI and great AI, for exactly opposite reasons. Terrible AI might blunder away enough material that you then can't hold the position after switching and Stockfish might get a holdable advantage within the first 20.
Wish you had followed Srockfish's recommendation after you win to see if the evaluation bar was just bugged or if there was actually a galaxy brain line to win.
it hovered around +128 so im guessing theres an overflow somewhere in the code of stockfish since it wasnt designed for this much material being on the board, might be wrong
"Wasn't expecting Martin to play so aggressively"
After giving Martin a 'CHARGE' as his only move
21:40 We have an even position against Martin
FLEX 💪
Martin, ‘’ my chess speaks for itself ’’
My itself speaks for chess!
Imagine gotham saying MARTIN SACRIFICED THE ROOK in this video
Nelson I know you prob wont see this but your videos have such a comfortable friendly vibe and I am very happy every time I see one, please keep them going I can tell you many people look forward to them !!
I appreciate that!
I loved this part 8:37 till 9:01 - you are so into trying to understand his motives and then he brutally captures your knight - "Why did he do that?" made me laugh a lot :D
16:37 “this actually resembles a normal position” he says with 15 rooks on the board
I've seen Martin get humiliated in sooo many different ways now. Somebody even beat him with just a pawn lol so it was good to see him win 12 games. His lack of chess knowledge probably prevented him from even noticing his huge advantage and he would have enjoyed that.
The surprising amount of suspense at the end when Martin was blundering all his pieces was awesome haha
Oh so Martin's the guy who had 75 water melons in my grade school math problems.
I think with this type of challenges, you should never make checks because that will just force your piece to be captured. Trying to bamboozle the bot with weird promotions might have done the trick. Wp btw!
Yeah, he should’ve tried more under promotions without checks
martin cheated, he got his 4 year old son to play for him
Martin can't help but play aggressively. There're so many pieces on the board that there's NO ROOM to do anything else!!
The eval bar is just a visualization of perfectly cut screams followed by “Hold on-“
"You never had a chance." 😆 Nice job! Good, fun content.
Fun fact abt martin: if u promote a pawn to a piece that checks his king, like a rook or a queen he would take it. But underpromoting that pawn to a bishop or a knight doesnt put the king in check vertically, so he woudnt take it.
With that much rook i can even defeat magnus carlsen 😂
With that many rooks, you can even defeat stockfish
Yeah just trade one piece for each
I haven't really been progressing at chess anymore, I'm stuck at 700, I feel like I'm failing, I watch your videos to help me remember that I should be playing chess for fun, so thank you :) UPDATE: I JUST BEAT A 1247 RATED PUZZLE :D
How many months ago did you start playing chess?
have you tryed to turn chess off and on again ?
Try learning openings, helped me
And then watch gm games cuz u get an understanding of what gms think through to get winning position, also all vhess principles are good to know
What helped me a lot was GM Daniel Naroditsky's speedrun. He starts at low elo and slowly introduces new principles and ideas. It brought me from 1200 to 1500 and I'm still winning every game. Also, play longer games and take time calculating! Think about your plans and your opponent's plans. This greatly helped me :)
19:25
"The question is - yes" Golden words
And Martin sacrificed *THE ROOOOOOOKS*
Next video: trying to beat Martin giving myself 39 rooks, and martin just a queen
😂
Martin sacrifced 39 roooooooooks!!!!!
In fact this position is literally impossible, since even if Martin simply trade rooks for your pieces, he should still have 24 rooks when you only have a king
Lllloo
"Trading material? Sorry, that's not a mate in 2"
The fact that Martin can just keep throwing rooks at your pieces with no regards for strategy is beyond me
I mean he can literally win by sacrificing 15 rooks maximum while ignoring piece values
One question: How do you get a custom position against Martin? I would love to try this too!
Under the "Learn" tab, click "Analysis", then click "Set up position", do what you want, then click "practice vs computer", then click "change bot"
@@Liam_The_Great it just says invalid position
@@Roy28_29 both sides have to have a king, and the side who goes second can't be in check
@@Liam_The_Great it won’t let me have more than 8 pawns
Fun fact, since he's Bulgarian his name would be pronounced MartIn, not MArtin.
Crazy good game brother. Awesome to overcome 39 rooks even to a 250 rated bot.
i think the eval bar thing where it says white is winning might involve some kind of overflow error within the inner workings of the engine, given it hovers around 128
I'll repeat a request I left on an earlier video for you against Stockfish - use the standard setup, but handicap the 'fish with time controls. See if you can beat it on 1 second per move, then halve its time each time until you can win. (You have no time limit, naturally.) I think I've seen some analysis of milliseconds per move where it seemed like it was "just" a decent human player, so it ought to be winnable at some point.
Also, can you pair Martin against Stockfish? I'd love to see Stockfish in the position you had initially, see if it can hold where you couldn't (and tbh, where I doubt any human could).
This
11:20
stockfish sees 50 moves into the future and calculates that white is 132 points better
Martin: "I prefer activity over material."
martin, the immortal chess god, strikes again!!
It's like an MMA Champion taking on 50 five-year-olds armed with baseball bats.
Martin is unstoppable, tricking the bar in game 2 for 1 second.
I knew from the beginning that your problem was thst you were treating it too much like a normal chess game. once you started trying to take as much material as fast as possible you started doing better. Martin is almost random he's at such low depth, so every move you spend not taking when it's mate in 4 or 5 just gives him more time to stumble into a mate he can see.
Next video: I gave Elena 39 bishops
That's a true Check-Martin.
This reminds me of playing football with your dad as a toddler and he pretends your shots are too powerful for him to save
Man, you are crazy! Is it possible to win this situation? 39 rooks? Opponent doesn't need to think. He just atacks any position and wins!
"You and what army?"
Martin: "This."
Martin has one move, forward and take:
"Wasnt expecting martin to play so aggressively" lmao
Martin just let you win to feel better, like he does for his kids
See how many queens you can give martin and still win
I love the fact how martin seeing checkmates is entirely luck-based, and so he could have kept you going forever if he wanted to
You can't beat Martin with 39 rooks unless he throws the game hilariously
bro man could checkmate if he just takes your king's pawn
When you promote a pawn, if there is a check, he will take it. Underpromote to a knight and he throws away all his pieces.
New drinking game: Take a shot every time he says "Martin"
You should play a reverse stockfish (always playing the worst move which leads to checkmate against it the fastest) and try to force it to win
Fool's mate
He sacrificed "THE ROOK"
37 times
stockfish is having a billion strokes analyzing this game
Challenge: Let Martin do something
Select random Martin's piece, excluding pawns, and random square on your side (1-4, if you playing white, 5-8, if you playing black). Your goal is to make that piece move on that square, then repeat with new piece and new square until no pieces remain, than you win
I start my games feeling powerful like Martin, as I play it quickly degenerates into feeling hopeless like Nelsi.
Reverse it and make stockfish play your position so you can see how easy stockfish makes it look. 😂
Nelson : * Gives Martin a billion rooks *
Also Nelson : Martin, the 250 elo bot, that cannot be stopped
Most people don't know this, but these bots are not actually run by AI. Behind every bot there is a GM trying to emulate the ELO and trying very hard to lose.
Famous words, “ Martin is too strong”
40 Rooks like you being in the projects' medieval style 😎
In things like this just go for takes with pieces other than check he won’t take like 80%of the time
I tried the position with two rows of pawns against Martin and won on the first try. If you just take rooks on the left side of the board and maintain both rows of pawns on the right Martin doesn't see checkmate as quick as he does when you don't do that. This makes Martin continuously blunder and then you can win!
wasnt expecting him to play so agressively - Has literally double the pieces -
12:25 potential checkmate
That square was covered by like 8 rooks tho right?
This is easily the funniest video so far from you, bravo 😂
I tried it myself and it seems he will almost never recapture a pawn if you take a rook, same for knights. So I managed to beat him using my pawns and horses. I also learned that promoting to a queen never is a good idea as martin will always take it. I instead underpromote to a knight. I also had to avoid checks with the knight because he always defended by capturing my knight
Martin controls the center and has all his pieces developed. That is why he plays so well 😀
And now Nelson is on the “can I beat Martin doing X?” Trend
TIP to beat up Martin!: Martin in the most of times do not beat knights *he wil definitly beat you knight when you will have check*
In some situations Martin doesn't beat pawns. In some of videos of another youtuber i have seen, that somebody beat up 8 queens with 1 PAWN!
Up next: I gave Martin 39 knights
This is what happens if Steiner attacked
These thumbnails be like "I gave Martin as many queens as the number of atoms in the observable universe"
there is no way to lose with 39 rooks
Enjoyable chess games, 90s strategic games like Le Emperor, Panzer General. Addicting and time absorbing, makes the hours fly by. Most these games follow the same precepts of a chess board with its rules.
I was dead when he let you have the pawn-> queen.
I'm way over simplifying this but he has 40 pieces vs 16. As long as he trades every move he will eventually just out last you.
Next time you have 39 rooks and you go against stockfish
How do you customize the board like this?
14:14 Congratz on being Adopted by Martin
with that many rooks, why didn't it just always use a rook to take a piece every turn? literally no way you could lose, unless you were trying to lose lol
21:45 To be fair, at this point it's just a game of 1 Rook, 1 Knight and 3 close pawns against a 250 ELO player.
With the two pawn ranks, stockfish goes "what? this is easy? can you not see it 30 moves into the future?"
honestly, they should make a bot called “martins older brother” who is incredibly strong, stronger than mittens, or stockfish, and super aggressive.
Playing with Martin will make you hopeful.
last boss of chess
I'm now scared of Martin. 😱
Without rooks on 4 will be more interestingg.
I never thought I'll see Martin be so threatening.
Next you should see how many extra rooks you need to beet stockfish. Each time you lose, add a rook