A better argument is that Palestinians themselves do not want a two state solution. Palestinian leadership will only accept a Palestinian state if it replaces Israel. Until Palestinians stop calling for the destruction of Israel, a two-state solution is 100% unworkable.
@@katkapsa5761 That plan calls for Hamas to continue attacking Israeli citizens. Hamas is genocidal. Over the decades international parties have negotiated at least 6 peace agreements for a two-state solution, and at the last moment Palestinian leadership always walks away. Palestinian leadership insists that Israel must be pushed into the Sea. Do you even know which "Sea" Palestinians reference in their hateful slogan?
I'm not pro isreal, nor am I pro palistine. But would I feel comfortable living in the middle of Muslim nations? Fuck no, and having one right next door shooting missles into my country? Again fuck no. If Nz or Indonesia was shooting missles into Australia, do you think Australia would put up with it? Of course not. And vice versa.
@@traviscue2099 No Hindus, Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Janists, Taoists, etc seem overwhelmingly unwilling to peacefully share space with this atheist. To pretend the jihadist death cult is just another religion is to fail to recognize that there are religious ideologies which are more and less compatible with secular democracies, human well being, freedom and the principles of western civilization.
Two state solution was realized a long ago. Israel is situated on 23% of the historic Palestinian mandate and thre Kingdom of Jordasn occupies 77 % of the lands initially promised to the Jews! What else do Muslims need?
And Rome invented Palestine during their occupation of Judea, the Arabs stole it, the Turks stole it and the British Liberated it Happy Ending :) Did you know that Muslims conquered all of Spain in 711 A.D.? that's 400 years before the first Crusade in 1099 A.D.
This is enormously true, but I don't think it's quite the bottom line. I propose the following as an even deeper truth: in mainstream Islamic thought, it is an unbearable disgrace to lose any physical territory on this earth that was once Islamicized but is now no longer given to Allah. It is a constant wound to Islamic pride and is worth ANYTHING to remedy, in their eyes.
@@jamespohlig2381 Let us be honest, both Jews and Palestinians are all Arab tribes at the end of the day. So the Sunni/Shia conflict is just like the Jewish/Palestinian conflict, a religous war with a twist, a load of European Jews choose to steal land they were not entitled to. But this was decided by the UN after the mandate who got what, Israelis got the better deal then despite the smaller population at the time. Therefore, that agreement should stand and Israelis should withdraw to the border defined by the UN. The UN should enforce the border areas from then on but as we know Israel likes to kill UN soldiers as well as British or American soldiers who get in their way!
When people say, "The conflict in the Middle East, is a very complex issue," they know little or nothing about the Middle East. It is not that complex, it was clear from the very beginning. Jews wanted only one thing, to return to their indigenous homeland. They wanted their ancestral land back that foreigners had ejected them from, and been occupying for over a thousand years. Though they never completely left or abandoned the land of Israel and a remnant had always maintained a presence in Israel, they had never regained the sovereignty they once possessed. Multiple foreign armies had for over a millennia, overrun the land, occupied it, then in turn had their own homelands conquered, and eventually abandoned their occupation of Israel and left. For Jews, it is not a complex issue. They are no different than any nation that in the past was conquered and had their homeland occupied by foreigners. Their strongest wish is to return to their indigenous homeland and once again gain sovereignty. After over a millennia the Jewish people scattered abroad, returned to join the remnant that had managed to remain and accomplished their dream, regaining sovereignty over some of their indigenous land. To Arabs in the Middle East, it is also not complex. They have sovereignty over 22 nations, and also only want one thing. The one thing they want, is for the Jews not to have sovereignty over any of their historic indigenous land in the Middle East. The conflict in the Middle East is not a very complex issue.
For most people it's not a complex issue. The Jews own Israel and wonder why the Jews gave the land they conquered due to neighboring aggression back to the very aggressors who wanted to exterminate them in the name of "peace".
What do you think it will happen if native american ask for USA back? Most of the people don't care who lived decades ago, even less thousend of years ago. That argument is insane for most of the people
@@atuellsyea but this is not america, its a complete different area, complete different history and complete different conflict. It shows that you have no clue about this Land.
Loved this! BTW, there already are two states. Jordon resides on more than half of former "Palestine". If anyone wants to actually look at an historical map, they will see what former "Palestine" was and what is it today. I can't quite understand why this is rarely, if ever mentioned in the media.
If you go back to the original mandates, it's clear that Israel is just a tiny sliver of the total. The French Mandate got carved into the Arab states of *Lebanon* and *Syria.* The British Mandate got carved into *Iraq, Jordan,* and *Israel* plus land for a state that would be called Palestine. Palestine would become a state once it formed a legitimate government that could handle security. However, from day one Palestinian leaders did not want their own state -- they insisted on replacing Israel. The Palestinian warlord Yasser Arafat even participated in the 1948 attacks to eliminate Israel.
Typical white colonialist comment. I love how you white people love to interject as if this has anything to do with you. It is your Eurotrash people who drew maps and divided people. This literally has nothing to do with you
@@DemPilafian and according to the King-Crane Commission Report back ca. 1919, the Palestinian Arabs and neighbors were adamantly opposed to any Zionist/Jewish state or even presence. They've only wanted an area devoid of Jews (except perhaps a few pockets of small population in Jerusalem or such).
I think that’s where the original name of Transjordan comes from, that originally the country was meant to cover both the western and eastern banks of the Jordan
When you look at documents from 1925 to 1940 about the British Mandate for Palestine , the area east of the Jordan river was referred to as the Arab side and the entire area (but not including the Sinai) West as the Jewish side. The Muslim people in the area did not call themselves Palestinians at the time.
israel is a racist suprematist white colonialist european colonization project, ever paid attention about how those who lead in israel look like? the upper class? all white! these people are as semitic as I am chinese, they came and stole the land from the native palestinian people, they are thieves and murderers, 10.000 children as we speak.
Even the Jordanians who are these Fake Palestinians killed 25,000 of them during Black September in the early 70's. Why? They were invited to live there (which is really their home) and once they settled they tried to take over the country. The Hasmite ruler along with a Paki general did the killings.
@@nathanielalderson9111 Ahh so you are telling me that an Israeli state could work in territory like Netherlands or Belgium? The Belgians can just go live in France or Germany or wherever because all Christian Europeans are the same. Or a better idea! Maybe America will consent to an Israeli state in say Florida, the Floridians can go and live with other Americans I'm sure they would love to give up their homes because a fairytale said they had the right to particular lands.
The root cause of the problem is NOT occupation, colonization etc. It is the inherent inability of Muslims to co-exist with any other religious groups. * Show me ONE country where Muslims have integrated well? * Show me ONE muslim country where non-muslims are treated well? Another good example of giving 2 states solution is Kashmir where Muslims enjoyed an almost fully autonomous state till 2 years ago since India's independence (that is more than 50+ years) and it became a breeding ground for all types of terror groups. Now Modi revoked the special status of Kashmir and it is getting back to normal.
You are right, but there is one exception of this, there is such Muslim country - is United Arab Emirates. One of the most richest, futuristic and cosmopolitan countries in the world, if not to say the only one. So they proved that even Muslims CAN cooperat, be tolerant, and direct money to the right direction. But why one can and others not, that is a big question.
@@katia_rusa ....with an absolute monarch for a leader? Any guarantee that he won't have you sliced up & fed to his dogs like MBS? There will be no civilized behaviour in the Muslim world until democracy & transparency exist. Which is why civilization does not exist anywhere on earth outside the Nordic, Teutonic & Benelux countries. I say this as a Muslim.
Normal? Said like someone who has never visited Kashmir in their lives. Mind you - if you've lived in Russia, perhaps perpetual surveillance & midnight visits by military police & forced abductions would seem normal.
@@imankhandaker6103 What kind of childish response is that? First of all that would be almost a millennium ago. Second, that is easily debunkable. And third, we are discussing the current world. Soothsayer is 100% accurate in his observation.
Land for peace is a failure. I was wrong. We need a 23 state solution. Arabs in greater Israel go to any of 22 Arab states and the indigenous jews get Israel which stays where it it. American former democrat voter (voted dem in every presidential election since carter and saw the 79 Sadat deal as proof that land for peace worked. Never again 10/7 was a seismic event
Right. Iran, Qatar and Jemen are muslim / arab country are actively supporting Hamas. So if not other arab coutnry accepts their brethrens, its reasonable these 3 do accept these palestinians whom doesnt wish to live in peace with Israel. They will surely get UNRWA support, so the economical burden wont be too great.
Exactly first Syria take back all your refugees and allow all your Yarmouk refugees statehood and viable passports to travel. Jordan your already full of 60 percent Palestinians and Syrian so you get a pass. Egypt open your doors. And take in your brother's. Qatari financiers of Terror open your doors and take your people.
Yes the Palestinians should go live in Jordan. But then again they tried to overthrow the king 👑 of Jordon. Everywhere they go they cause problems. Peace is not in the vocabulary of Palestinians.
Yes remember black September. The Jordanians don’t want the, neither does Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, or any of the other 50 Muslim countries.
History of the imaginary PALESTINIAN STATE: 1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state 2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the United Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the United Kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the Twelve Tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
Israel will always prevail, not because of our capacity or force, but because the Almighty said so. These demons may cause havoc with their brutal wickedness, but their god is a false god, a delusion. As in ancient times, whichever tribe prevailed meant that their god was stronger etc. But the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is the one true God. When Israel suffers, it’s due to disobedience, rebellion, idolatry or social injustice, not because of God. This is all due to the covenant. The Almighty will also judge the nations against Israel, in His perfect timing. Blessed is He.
I support Israel but when you start talking this nonsense you don't help There is no evidence at all for what you are saying. A solution is needed not a fairy story.
@@truthgiver8286 Spoken like a true atheist. But the great part about it, is that one day you will remember what I wrote, and you will deeply regret your attitude & words against the truth, but it will be too late. People reject what they cannot believe nor understand. I actually feel bad for people like you, but I pray for those like you or worse. The natural man cannot perceive spiritual things, only the spiritual can. You’re blindness hasn’t been removed, I hope it happens for your sake.
@@JA71280 No one day we will not remember anything and I actually feel bad for people like you who live their lives based on a lie. You were born an atheist and other people indoctrinated you into their sect strange how we get our reward when we die just something else that there is no evidence whatsoever I will not regret my attitude and speaking the truth if we could take you back a few thousand years you would be praying to a volcano and throwing children in to appease your god.
@@aranos6269 don’t put words in my mouth. You stated that the guy makes a lot of sense and I do not agree with that; I never said that Jews are bad. If you really want to know why, ask, before judging.
@@gijswetzlar sorry, confused you with another poster. OK you don't think he makes sense. I am not all that invested in all that. To me he seems to make sense. As I see it conflicts are unfortunately resolved with victory of one side. Personally I run away if I can, do not like the idea of kill or being killed for some idea.
@@gijswetzlarTrying to make this crap into an intellectual debate is all dishonest sophistry. It all boils down to “Its mine, f*** you, now we fight to the death”. Both “sides” pretty much believe the same. Lets not pretend this is something that can be resolved with thinking. There’s nothing objective at all about land deeds supposedly handed down from the sky. I’d say just let them at it, but as an American my government picks a side.
Israel is Israel because we are Jews and are supposed to follow the Torah and the Tanach which includes the books of the prophets, which is the word of G-d. Which prophet spoke of two nations existing, splitting the land of Israel? Answer: none
Actually, Jews were supposed to follow the Holy Quran (the final book directly from God) and Islamic teachings. Prophets Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and Solomon were all following Islamic teachings, and they were all prophets of Islam, including Jesus. The original Torah is not even available, as all holy books/scriptures before Holy Quran have disappeared (original scriptures/books, i.e., Zabur, Torah, and Injil have all disappeared / are not available). The books currently available as Torah and Injil were all written by humans and not words of God. These are corrupted versions. The final book from God is The Holy Quran, which is not corrupted, and the last Prophet is Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
@@waseemarain2855 If you went back in time and asked Moses what "Islam" is, he wouldn't be able to answer your question. If you asked Isaac what the Kaaba is, which Islam claims that Abraham built, he wouldn't be able to answer your question. If you asked Abraham if he wants his family burial ground in Hebron to belong to the Israelites/Jews & for the inscriptions to be in Hebrew VS letting the Ishmaelites/Arabs turn it into a mosque and ban Jews from entering, he would pick the first option and would be horrified by the thought of the second one. If you asked Solomon if he wants the Temple Mount to have a temple on it VS a mosque where Jews aren't allowed, he would choose the temple and he was the guy that got it built the Temple in the first place. It's your prerogative to be a Muslim but the problem is you guys keep appropriating OUR things, claim that they always belonged to you, expel us from our holy sites, not even let Jews visit our common ancestor Abraham which gave birth to both the Jewish nation and the Arab nation, and then support genocidal massacres against us and broadcast to the world that Jews are just a bunch of Europeans that colonized the land & have no right to be there. Had Jews hypothetically stolen the Kaaba out of your hands & turned it into a synagogue, you would launch a holy war against us with no mercy. We, on the other hand, have been very patient and even arrest Jews that dare to pray on the Temple Mount, & what do we get? Muslims attacking us & saying, "This attack is a response to Zionist provocation at Al-Aqsa". But what incentive do you have to change your ways? None, because the entire world agrees with you, have almost always hated my people, & vilify Israel with a passion. We won the battles but you won the war. But soon, our generous patience will run out, we will transfer many Palestinian Arabs out of the land & only let those who come in peace to stay, & then God-willing we'll live happily ever after.
@@waseemarain2855 Maybe so. But this is Islamic teaching for muslims. You dont suppose Jews will follow someones elses teaching while they do have their own?? Now, afaik, while the whole ancient history of Israel is in Palestine, literally, with smaller exceptions; so the Quaran the only demand on Israel is a dream journey where Prophet Mohammed flew on a fantasy winged horse to the mountain above Jerusalem... While its a nice story worth to retell and a good reason to build an mosque there, its a weak claim on the land as such, based on a literally dream... "Holy land for three major religions". Why, if somebody, the Christians do have a much better claim on Palestine and Jerusalem than the muslims...
@@waseemarain2855😂😂 holy Quran ? Hell no! We believe that Mohammad was a crazy wicked person!- not a prophet . ( as the Rambam- Maimonides says) why would we follow his book when we have the ultimate truth . We have the Torah which was given through G-d to Moses on mount Sinai !
HAMAS's objective is to built a replica of the Islamic Republic of Iran under Shariah Law. I have seen a video asking Palestinians on the street what would happen to the Jews 'If Palestine was to retake Palestine.' The interesting thing is that some said they would be okay with the Jews who were there prior to 1948, they say they had no problems with them, even though the Arabs and Jews fought almost all the time in the 1920s. Everyone else, except for maybe direct descendants would have to 'go back to where they came from, not my problem. It's your mess to clean up.' The Palestinians see Israelis as Europeans, and they don't care where they would go. Thing is, though, that HAMAS and Fatah want to make sure all the Jews are dead, so they're not going to let the Jews leave if they have their way. So Israel must defend themselves, or no Jew is safe. And after the Jew will come the time for other non-Muslims. The West does not understand, HAMAS does not value anything the same. HAMAS is an agent of Iran, so they have the same values as the Ayatollah. And they don't bother to hide it.
This should be essential viewing for Blinken and Co. who continue to push the old worn out line that has guided their actions for decades ......and the outstanding results are obvious to all. In the meantime the Palestinians and friends are constantly encouraged to believe that in no time at all it will all be theirs...but dreams sometimes are shattered.
This issue is dead simple. There are 5 million Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza. They cannot vote for the Israeli government, even though the Israeli government controls their land. There are 2 million Arabs in Israel who can vote, leading to 7 million total Arabs in the land. There are around 7 million Jews in the land. If you reject the two-state solution, Israel can be majority-Jewish, or it can be democratic. It cannot be both. Which do you choose?
No problem: just give each Palestinian Israeli equal rights, freedom of movement, an Israeli passport, freedom of profession, and one vote, in your fabulous democracy of the Middle East. Problem solved.
Sure and then what... Palestinians moving about freely in Israel will do exactly what they did on October 7, except all over Israel. There's a reason there's a wall between them and Israel. Israel is smart to control her border and keep out those who want to destroy her. Hamas could have made Gaza a place where the Palestinians had freedom of profession but they preferred to use the money donated by countries worldwide to build infrastructure to attack Israel.
@@mdbubby Nethanyahu created Hamas. Hamas is a false flag operation. Israel built the tunnels in Gaza. The Palestinians cannot built anything because Israel does not allow building material to be transported to Gaza. Nethanyahu wants one state solution. Hamas wants one state solution. So, democracy requires equal rights for all people. And if you are worried that Palestinians treat Israeli people as badly, as they treated Palestinians, then they just should not have treated them so badly, in the first place.
Israel ought NEVER to agreed to the Two State Solution- yes for the above reasons but the Bible clearly states that the Almighty God gave the land to them and the prophet Joel that that God will "enter into judgment against all nations ...concerning His inheritance, His people Israel for they scattered my people and divided up my land". Joel 3:1-3.
Yes, but He owns everything. He did give Israel the land; He took it away as warned, and He brought Israel back in unbelief. He is Sovereign. @@observer3090
that doesn't even matter, the League of nations, the mandate for Palestine, and the recognized international legal principal of uti possidetis juris gave a claim to the land to Israel. Funny how they are not challenging all the other lands given like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc
A Palestinian state would give the Palestinians recognition as a Sovereign nation which in turn would mean they could have their own Army , Airforce , and Navy , Backed by Other Arab Nations and funded by Iran . Over time this would be disastrous for Israel .
Moshe Dayan gave whole West Bank to the Arabs after the 1967 Six Day War for peace and it never worked. Egypt signed the Peace Treaty with Israel for return of Sinai Peninsula but their President was assassinated and the Peace Accord survived to this day. Jordan signed the Peace Treaty with Israel to wash their hands off the Palestine problem. Syria the third player in all the Arab/Israel wars never signed any Peace Treaty with Israel and is now one of the proxies for Iran sponsored terrorism hotspots. Israel gave all the Arab Land it conquered in all the wars except for Golan Heights for Peace, 75 years on it's still fighting it's right to live on its Ancestral Home land. Wests idea of compromise does not work for Middle East mentality, the Arabs will consider pushing for more until Israel the only Democratic State will have nothing more to give. Palestine people must accept the only land available to them, Gaza to set up their Statehood. The West Bank belongs to Israel, all Palestinians must move to Gaza and live as an Arab nation. Enough of compromise, Israel gave back all the land it conquered only two countries signed peace treaty and the landless Palestinians still giving problems to Israel. Move them to Gaza and leave to run their own affairs and if they still want to fight then it's their problem because Israel will not turn another cheek but to fight back. Long live Israel!
People in the West don't realize how much Judeo-Christian thought influenced their thinking and they just do away with God, so now they think that this is the way all humans everywhere think. No, it's not. Islam is very different.
Islam is an Abrahamic religion, just like Christianity and Judaism. They believe that Allah is the same god that Christians and Jews worship, but that Christianity and Judaism misinterpreted Allah’s will. They are very, very similar to Christianity and Judaism.
Why you still talking about this name Palestine? The name is the confusion !The land is called Israel !What did a Roman emperor ,was impertinent and wrong!
Agree. The Israeli colonial occupation of Palestine needs to end. Israelis need to return to their ancestorial homeland ... in Europe. Palestine has every right to defend themselves against the colonial oppressors.
The two state solution has been implemented for over fifty years: the Mandate of Palestine was split into Jordan an Israel. Even that has been fraught with problems, but it seems to have worked itself out at this point.
Sinai was NEVER Jewish land! It's always belonged to the Egyptians. Also since you gave it back to the rightful owners, the Egyptians, you've had no issues with the Egyptians. This guy is talking nonsense.
"We walked out of Judea and Samaria". What about all the settlers and soldiers there? I don't know if or how a two state solution could work. But what is the solution? A one state, all Israel? If Israel wants to stay a democracy it would have to give equal rights to everybody, but then Jews would be a minority. Or you would ethnic cleanse the Palestinians. Where should they go? No neighbour state wants to take them (all).
Many of those Arabs already rejected becoming Israeli, that's why they left in 1948. The ones that stayed became the 20% arab population of Israel. The ones that left, already left to Egypt and Jordan, that's who took over Gaza and the West Bank militarily from 1948-1967. The only reason they don't want them now is that they are the front line fighters and they still want the same thing they did in 48, 67, and 73, they just don't want to actively invade anymore. Just look at the statements from Egypt and Jordan recently, they are very much still frenemies.
Make Lebanon take in a million, make Iran take in 3 million since they train the terrorists, and make Russia take in the rest since that pig putin supports them! It won't happen, but it's a great idea.
Jews a minority?? Just look at minorities in Muslim majority countries and you will have your answer. Just google violent verses in the Koran and you will understand why things are the way they are
You should ask which legitimate Arab state is functioning correctly? Arabs are too backward and primitive to have their own state. Lebanon and Jordan are failing their citizens with loads of corruption while their economy is horrible. Do you remember this in the news; ua-cam.com/video/1JcUZbR-m5g/v-deo.htmlsi=-Pu0Y12Ia6TduRRN Egypt is unstable with a dictatorship and their economy is terrible. Syria is also a dictatorship, and Bashar al-Assad has killed over 300 thousand people! Nobody mentions that. Qatar sponsors global terrorism. Yemen is a mess where rape is legal. Some people expect the West to support Gazans, but how can the West support Gazans where men are pedophiles? These child marriages are legal in Afghanistan and Yemen as well. ua-cam.com/video/jhK9XypwMIA/v-deo.html Hence, a 2-State solution is nice with pink elephants and lemonade, but it won't work. Their religion that is an ideology based on submission and brutal violence is standing in their way, which regrettably became evident on October 7 of last year. The Americans had a taste of it in the early 19th century with the Barbary Wars. Meanwhile, the West has gone through an Industrial Revolution. Their backward primitive culture must go through a lot of evolution before a 2-state solution is possible. Right now they are living with an ideology from the middle ages. Israel must do what they have to do and that is to get rid of Hamas.
Israel ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 I feel very sad when I think what will be the condition of the children of Europe, America, Canada and many other countries in 50 years when the country will be filled with people from such communities . Imagine what would happen if your children had to live in your own country according to Islamic rules
The Holy Peaceful Loving Qur'an The Koran (translated by Dawood in Penguin Classics series) says, "When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them" (Sura 9:5). "When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads" (Sura 47:4). "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate" (Sura 9:73). "The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. Fight then against the friends of Satan" (Sura 4:76). Who are these idolaters and unbelievers and infidels? Those who are not strict Muslims. "Muhammad is God's Apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" (Sura 48:29).
Ur so stupid quoting the quran on war to the infidels who attack and threathen the muslims,infact ur not quoting the rulings where it states whoever kills a civilian will no enter paradise"this verse is talking about the combatant infidels in war.Go read the quran from frst page to last and stop misquoting a verse revealed a 1400year ago where their was a fight which threathened their existance.Problem is their exremist in every religion justifying crimes using revalations just like u did.Ur following extremist aproach.
Let there be a one state solution with equal rights, access, and representation for every race, religion, ethnicity and sex in that ancient holy land. End the apartheid and the genocide and let there be a United Palestine.
The shop keeper story sounds like a more extreme version of stores in Portland having to put up Black Lives Matter signs in their windows during the riots and fire bombings to avoid being burned down or assaulted.
Consider this... 2000 years ago Romans conquer Greece and (unlike the real history) in order to humiliate Greeks rename the newly conquered land - Troy, by the ancient foe of Greeks. Greeks never accept that name for their lands, but it remains in use under Roman, Byzantine and Ottoman rule. The descendants of Islamised Greeks and non-Greek groups that have settled there in course of many centuries take the Troyan identity despite having no link whatsoever with king Priam or Hector or Paris and in the same time deny that modern Greeks have anything to do with ancient Greece. That's more or less analogy with Palestine and Palestinians.
The trouble for Israel is that, on the spiritual level, they are still in disobedience to God, and they have been suffering the consequences of that for millennia. They rejected, and still reject Jesus Christ as Messiah. Jesus cried out, "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kill the prophets, and stone them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, and you would not! Behold, your house is left to you desolate." Matthew 23:37-38.
Sinai did not turn into a cancer. Sinai worked. We haven’t had an armed conflict with Egypt in decades when they used to be Israel’s worst enemy. Gaza is a great example. Sinai is a lousy one.
Sinai was filled with ISIS terrorists really fast after ISIS ruled Syria and Iraq. Also Hamas tunnels reach Sinai and Weapons are smuggled through there to Gaza
Sinai became infested with ISIS/Muslim Brotherhood like terrorist groups and it's the main (and only) area through which the terrorist groups in Gaza get thier weapons.. mostly smuggled in. The Egyptians could care less - they are not Hamas's target.. so Israel is forced to suffer the incompetence of Egyptian border security indirectly through the Hamas weapons used agianst it. Not to mention the tons of illegal drugs that inflitrate Israel though the Egyptian border.
He’s a political propagandist not someone who actually cares about the peace and security of Israelis or Arabs. You can tell because although he criticizes the two state solution he offers no alternatives. The only solution he seems to be able to comprehend is one in which West Bank Palestinians remain without a state or Israeli citizenship in their little islands or they all are ethnically cleansed. Not exactly my definition of a workable and just peace.
Palestinians are protesting the land that was bordered off from them, not the Jews themselves. Jews and Arabs/Palestinians have lived in that land for thousands of years. “Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences.” US Institutes of Health
Yes, all those Palestinians that came in looking for Jobs that the Jews had created from the neighbouring Arab states in the 1920s are all genetically connected to the Ancient Greeks.. smh.
That’s all irrelevant. No one wants to live with Islamic psychopaths. This is a war between the world and Islam at this point. And the Islamists have forced the issue.
Anyone who uses historic reasoning for why they're invading a sovereign state is wrong. By that logic just about every country in the world should be at war with their neighbor based on arbitrarily selected historic point in time when it was "their" land. Palestinians should do what every other civilized country has done and just accept reality. Lands change hands and even if it was your land at some point, it no longer is.
Dna has intermingled between people since before we were a species and indeed between species ( we have Neanderthal and Devonsonian DNA) . People have moved around geographically too much to know every detail. However the jewish culture and religion( that displaced an earlier one that is gone) predates the invention of islam in Israel by a few thousand years. Im not saying Jews have the sole right to the land both peoples do, but theirs as the original owners displaced by muslim invasion is strongest. I also believe a two state solution is next to impossible as no outside military will guarantee Israels security by manning the border and too many Palestinians have been brainwashed to wanting a one state solution. They seem incapable of building an economy and a society when they have had the own land rather than terroist infrastructure.
I lived in a house for 30 years but was forcibly evicted. Do I have the same historical claim to that house as today's Israelis historical claim to Israel? What do you think the answer would be if you ask Palestinians whether they're willing to swap their wives for peace? Also, I'm dubious about anyone that claims something has been "proven to be the all time best" - especially in a non-scientific field like politics.
G-d gave the Land of Israel to the Jewish people forever, and it says this in the Bible many times. G-d created the world and gave the Land at first to the Canaanites. Then when He wished, He took it from the Canaanites and gave it to the Jews. Jews have lived there since G-d took them out of Egypt thousands of years ago. Even when many other nations conquered Israel and Judea and killed, enslaved and dispersed the majority of the Jewish people, Jews have always lived in the Land of Israel, until today.
The Muslim Arabs do not have historical claims to the land, they migrated to the land just as many Jews did, although the Jews as a people were there thousands of years before the Arabs who came from Arabian lands. But they they started many wars with the Jews/Israel who won these wars and land and that's what happens in war- whoever wins takes the land. In addition to this, the Muslim Arabs who live in Israrl, Gaza and the West Bank NEVER ruled nor governed Palestine. Before Israel GAVE those who live in Gaza the land, they never governed it ever. And the same is with the West Bank.
if israel refuses to recognise palestine as a state then, by default, all the people living in palestine are israeli citizens and have the legal right to vote and all of the legal rights and protecitons that israelis have however the fact that they are being refused of those rights means that israel see them as second class citizens which is kind of the definition of apartheit
Because they don't want to be israeli and are arab nationalist colonizers there are exceptions but for the most part they are enemies and you never treat your enemies like you treat your own.
What? Nope. That would only happen if Israel would annex Gaza and West Bank and let the arabs live there. This is never gonna happen. The annexation may happen, but that would mean the arabs have to go.
It's about that this is an area that is sacred to three religions. Why should all of it belong to members of one religion? Why should it all belong to jews only? Because it says so in your book? To everyone his own book is right, so this is no argument. The jews could have had a big area in today's west poland, what was once germany. Instead, they came to palestine and started oppressing people who hadn't harmed them. That jews did that is a shame, they should know best what discrimination means
In 1947 the Arabs did not want a two state solution. The European Jews wanted a two state solution. That's why Israel kept the two state solution alive. The alternative was a one state solution. In 1948 a one state solution meant only a third of the population were Jews. Now in 2024 a one state solution is 50% of the population will be Jews not counting the Palestinian diaspora. If the Palestinian diaspora is allowed to return as under the 1949 UN resolution the Jewish population will become 30% again. That's why the two solution lives. What Netanyahu wants is a one state solution with the Palestinians staying in reservation like in the US but without the power to vote or stay outside the reservation. In the US native Americans can vote in elections and stay outside the reservation. So to the speaker what's your solution? Genocide and ethnic cleansing?
If something is not logical, then it has to be spiritual. Jews have a tiny piece of land that they can call home. Why try to take it off them? It does not make sense.
Al Maidah 20-26 (Koran) clearly states: "O my people! Enter the holy land that ALLAH DESIGNED FOR YOU, and do not turn back, or you will be the losers." Why was the holy land appointed by God for Israel. Why not Palestine. Palestine is not even mentioned once in the Koran. Has Allah forgotten that there is a nation called Palestine? The solution for the two countries is the same as stealing land that does not belong to them. Palestinians are of Arab descent. Arabs have their own land in Egypt, Saudi, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq. That much land is not enough. Do you still want to colonize the land given to Israel by Allah?
I'll agree the two-state solution isn't workable. The problem is, can Israel; absorb the West Bank and Gaza without also absorbing the people who live there? Can there be a single democratic state with the existing populations? What are the other options? Driving the existing people off their land, or absorbing the populations, but not allowing them a vote in the new singtle state. Which do you choose?
A better argument is that Palestinians themselves do not want a two state solution. Palestinian leadership will only accept a Palestinian state if it replaces Israel. Until Palestinians stop calling for the destruction of Israel, a two-state solution is 100% unworkable.
The points of the Arab peace plan endorsed by Palestinian leadership seem to contradict your statement.
@@katkapsa5761 That plan calls for Hamas to continue attacking Israeli citizens. Hamas is genocidal.
Over the decades international parties have negotiated at least 6 peace agreements for a two-state solution, and at the last moment Palestinian leadership always walks away. Palestinian leadership insists that Israel must be pushed into the Sea.
Do you even know which "Sea" Palestinians reference in their hateful slogan?
Bullshit
@@katkapsa5761Bullshit!
Yup, THEY WANT IT ALL!!!!!:/
I'm not pro isreal, nor am I pro palistine. But would I feel comfortable living in the middle of Muslim nations? Fuck no, and having one right next door shooting missles into my country? Again fuck no. If Nz or Indonesia was shooting missles into Australia, do you think Australia would put up with it? Of course not. And vice versa.
Glad u live in Australia...do not come near the Muslims please f...k.no
Australia’s lost. Their government wouldn’t dream of defending their citizens.
@@mookiewilson4166 Hence why we're lucky to have a low population of religous people.
@@traviscue2099 No Hindus, Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Janists, Taoists, etc seem overwhelmingly unwilling to peacefully share space with this atheist. To pretend the jihadist death cult is just another religion is to fail to recognize that there are religious ideologies which are more and less compatible with secular democracies, human well being, freedom and the principles of western civilization.
But if Israel shoots missiles into Gaza, they have to put up with it? 🤷♂️
Two state solution was realized a long ago. Israel is situated on 23% of the historic Palestinian mandate and thre Kingdom of Jordasn occupies 77 % of the lands initially promised to the Jews! What else do Muslims need?
They want everything especially that it is very progressive.
And Rome invented Palestine during their occupation of Judea, the Arabs stole it, the Turks stole it and the British Liberated it Happy Ending :)
Did you know that Muslims conquered all of Spain in 711 A.D.? that's 400 years before the first Crusade in 1099 A.D.
That is a revisionist understanding of the original mandate which separated the area Palestine (current day Israel, gaza and the WB) from Transjordan.
That doesn't matter. In 1917 the Balfour declaration promised both sides to the jews. @@jchan9761
Looks like they want the world.
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Bottom Line: You cannot compromise with those who do not even recognize your right to exist.
That is it in a “ nutshell”. 🇮🇱
When people come in large numbers and take over you expect the Palestinians to just give in?
What right has European Jews to settle in that area, they have no right!
This is enormously true, but I don't think it's quite the bottom line. I propose the following as an even deeper truth: in mainstream Islamic thought, it is an unbearable disgrace to lose any physical territory on this earth that was once Islamicized but is now no longer given to Allah. It is a constant wound to Islamic pride and is worth ANYTHING to remedy, in their eyes.
@@jamespohlig2381 Let us be honest, both Jews and Palestinians are all Arab tribes at the end of the day. So the Sunni/Shia conflict is just like the Jewish/Palestinian conflict, a religous war with a twist, a load of European Jews choose to steal land they were not entitled to. But this was decided by the UN after the mandate who got what, Israelis got the better deal then despite the smaller population at the time. Therefore, that agreement should stand and Israelis should withdraw to the border defined by the UN. The UN should enforce the border areas from then on but as we know Israel likes to kill UN soldiers as well as British or American soldiers who get in their way!
When people say, "The conflict in the Middle East, is a very complex issue," they know little or nothing about the Middle East. It is not that complex, it was clear from the very beginning. Jews wanted only one thing, to return to their indigenous homeland. They wanted their ancestral land back that foreigners had ejected them from, and been occupying for over a thousand years. Though they never completely left or abandoned the land of Israel and a remnant had always maintained a presence in Israel, they had never regained the sovereignty they once possessed. Multiple foreign armies had for over a millennia, overrun the land, occupied it, then in turn had their own homelands conquered, and eventually abandoned their occupation of Israel and left. For Jews, it is not a complex issue. They are no different than any nation that in the past was conquered and had their homeland occupied by foreigners. Their strongest wish is to return to their indigenous homeland and once again gain sovereignty. After over a millennia the Jewish people scattered abroad, returned to join the remnant that had managed to remain and accomplished their dream, regaining sovereignty over some of their indigenous land. To Arabs in the Middle East, it is also not complex. They have sovereignty over 22 nations, and also only want one thing. The one thing they want, is for the Jews not to have sovereignty over any of their historic indigenous land in the Middle East. The conflict in the Middle East is not a very complex issue.
Almost like the Dwarves in the movie the Hobbit finally return home and then have to fight a dragon!
For most people it's not a complex issue. The Jews own Israel and wonder why the Jews gave the land they conquered due to neighboring aggression back to the very aggressors who wanted to exterminate them in the name of "peace".
What do you think it will happen if native american ask for USA back? Most of the people don't care who lived decades ago, even less thousend of years ago. That argument is insane for most of the people
@@atuellsyea but this is not america, its a complete different area, complete different history and complete different conflict. It shows that you have no clue about this Land.
My comment about Palestine being a fake name was deleted. Who does that?
Loved this! BTW, there already are two states. Jordon resides on more than half of former "Palestine". If anyone wants to actually look at an historical map, they will see what former "Palestine" was and what is it today. I can't quite understand why this is rarely, if ever mentioned in the media.
If you go back to the original mandates, it's clear that Israel is just a tiny sliver of the total. The French Mandate got carved into the Arab states of *Lebanon* and *Syria.* The British Mandate got carved into *Iraq, Jordan,* and *Israel* plus land for a state that would be called Palestine.
Palestine would become a state once it formed a legitimate government that could handle security. However, from day one Palestinian leaders did not want their own state -- they insisted on replacing Israel. The Palestinian warlord Yasser Arafat even participated in the 1948 attacks to eliminate Israel.
Typical white colonialist comment. I love how you white people love to interject as if this has anything to do with you. It is your Eurotrash people who drew maps and divided people. This literally has nothing to do with you
@@DemPilafian and according to the King-Crane Commission Report back ca. 1919, the Palestinian Arabs and neighbors were adamantly opposed to any Zionist/Jewish state or even presence. They've only wanted an area devoid of Jews (except perhaps a few pockets of small population in Jerusalem or such).
I think that’s where the original name of Transjordan comes from, that originally the country was meant to cover both the western and eastern banks of the Jordan
When you look at documents from 1925 to 1940 about the British Mandate for Palestine , the area east of the Jordan river was referred to as the Arab side and the entire area (but not including the Sinai) West as the Jewish side. The Muslim people in the area did not call themselves Palestinians at the time.
Love this guy, right on every point, weakness breeds destruction.
at least in middle east, things work that way
He is a liar.
@@iqbalahmad4853 illuminate us "Ahmad"
israel is a racist suprematist white colonialist european colonization project, ever paid attention about how those who lead in israel look like? the upper class? all white! these people are as semitic as I am chinese, they came and stole the land from the native palestinian people, they are thieves and murderers, 10.000 children as we speak.
Never ever give up, never ever give in , never ever give way ! Stay strong , stay determined and stay put forever ! Am Yisrael Chai ❤
Ditto. 🇮🇱👍🇮🇱💙🇮🇱💙🇮🇱👍
Yeah, the problem is the other side is saying the same thing.
The Arabs have a state already it’s called Jordan 🇯🇴
they don't want it. we should take it then
...in fact, the Arabs have a few states...
Even the Jordanians who are these Fake Palestinians killed 25,000 of them during Black September in the early 70's. Why? They were invited to live there (which is really their home) and once they settled they tried to take over the country. The Hasmite ruler along with a Paki general did the killings.
@@nathanielalderson9111 Ahh so you are telling me that an Israeli state could work in territory like Netherlands or Belgium? The Belgians can just go live in France or Germany or wherever because all Christian Europeans are the same.
Or a better idea! Maybe America will consent to an Israeli state in say Florida, the Floridians can go and live with other Americans I'm sure they would love to give up their homes because a fairytale said they had the right to particular lands.
Correct!!! ❤
The root cause of the problem is NOT occupation, colonization etc. It is the inherent inability of Muslims to co-exist with any other religious groups.
* Show me ONE country where Muslims have integrated well?
* Show me ONE muslim country where non-muslims are treated well?
Another good example of giving 2 states solution is Kashmir where Muslims enjoyed an almost fully autonomous state till 2 years ago since India's independence (that is more than 50+ years) and it became a breeding ground for all types of terror groups. Now Modi revoked the special status of Kashmir and it is getting back to normal.
Like Moorish Spain for example?
You are right, but there is one exception of this, there is such Muslim country - is United Arab Emirates. One of the most richest, futuristic and cosmopolitan countries in the world, if not to say the only one. So they proved that even Muslims CAN cooperat, be tolerant, and direct money to the right direction.
But why one can and others not, that is a big question.
@@katia_rusa ....with an absolute monarch for a leader? Any guarantee that he won't have you sliced up & fed to his dogs like MBS? There will be no civilized behaviour in the Muslim world until democracy & transparency exist. Which is why civilization does not exist anywhere on earth outside the Nordic, Teutonic & Benelux countries. I say this as a Muslim.
Normal? Said like someone who has never visited Kashmir in their lives. Mind you - if you've lived in Russia, perhaps perpetual surveillance & midnight visits by military police & forced abductions would seem normal.
@@imankhandaker6103 What kind of childish response is that? First of all that would be almost a millennium ago. Second, that is easily debunkable. And third, we are discussing the current world. Soothsayer is 100% accurate in his observation.
Land for peace is a failure. I was wrong. We need a 23 state solution. Arabs in greater Israel go to any of 22 Arab states and the indigenous jews get Israel which stays where it it. American former democrat voter (voted dem in every presidential election since carter and saw the 79 Sadat deal as proof that land for peace worked. Never again 10/7 was a seismic event
Absolutely right
How about just removing Israel? The Jews had no state in 1948 and haven't had one in thousands of years.
Right. Iran, Qatar and Jemen are muslim / arab country are actively supporting Hamas. So if not other arab coutnry accepts their brethrens, its reasonable these 3 do accept these palestinians whom doesnt wish to live in peace with Israel. They will surely get UNRWA support, so the economical burden wont be too great.
Exactly first Syria take back all your refugees and allow all your Yarmouk refugees statehood and viable passports to travel.
Jordan your already full of 60 percent Palestinians and Syrian so you get a pass.
Egypt open your doors. And take in your brother's.
Qatari financiers of Terror open your doors and take your people.
The problem is the Gaza withdrawal was unilateral with no peace agreement whereas the egyption peace deal was agreed in exchange for sinai
Yes the Palestinians should go live in Jordan. But then again they tried to overthrow the king 👑 of Jordon. Everywhere they go they cause problems. Peace is not in the vocabulary of Palestinians.
Yes remember black September. The Jordanians don’t want the, neither does Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, or any of the other 50 Muslim countries.
Muslims are a problem for Muslims to solve; they dont want the West to solve it.
Point 3 is the best! And widely misunderstood - too bad the woke west will not understand until it is too late.
History of the imaginary PALESTINIAN STATE:
1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the United Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the United Kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the Twelve Tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
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With Islam. Your kindness is interpreted as "Kindness is weakness"
In history there never was a independent state of palestine!
Israel will always prevail, not because of our capacity or force, but because the Almighty said so. These demons may cause havoc with their brutal wickedness, but their god is a false god, a delusion. As in ancient times, whichever tribe prevailed meant that their god was stronger etc. But the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is the one true God. When Israel suffers, it’s due to disobedience, rebellion, idolatry or social injustice, not because of God. This is all due to the covenant. The Almighty will also judge the nations against Israel, in His perfect timing. Blessed is He.
Yeah the demon Palestinians killed 25000 people recently mostly women and children. Oh wait sorry it wasn't the demon Palestinians but another demon.
I support Israel but when you start talking this nonsense you don't help There is no evidence at all for what you are saying. A solution is needed not a fairy story.
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Spoken like a true atheist. But the great part about it, is that one day you will remember what I wrote, and you will deeply regret your attitude & words against the truth, but it will be too late. People reject what they cannot believe nor understand. I actually feel bad for people like you, but I pray for those like you or worse. The natural man cannot perceive spiritual things, only the spiritual can. You’re blindness hasn’t been removed, I hope it happens for your sake.
@@JA71280 No one day we will not remember anything and I actually feel bad for people like you who live their lives based on a lie. You were born an atheist and other people indoctrinated you into their sect strange how we get our reward when we die just something else that there is no evidence whatsoever I will not regret my attitude and speaking the truth if we could take you back a few thousand years you would be praying to a volcano and throwing children in to appease your god.
Your attitude is one of systemic racism. And you are using Scripture to do it.
plain and clear, the wife comparision got me.
Why do you call it "Two State *Solution"* and not Two State Problem?
Optimism.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner
A winner for a massive check from the Mossad for spreading their bullshit propaganda.
They had a defacto state …they failed the test
Very insightful. Thank you
Great video 👏👏
Excellent explanation!! Very clear..
it debunked itself good and proper on 10/7
PALESTINE already have a state called Jordan
The Jordanians will be surprised!
Exactly. "Peace at any cost" is the motto of cowards.
That guy makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately common sense is very un PC.
maybe because it is uncommon these days lol
All 4 points are a one sided, narrow minded view on reality and therefore don't make sense at all!
@@aranos6269 don’t put words in my mouth. You stated that the guy makes a lot of sense and I do not agree with that; I never said that Jews are bad. If you really want to know why, ask, before judging.
@@gijswetzlar sorry, confused you with another poster. OK you don't think he makes sense. I am not all that invested in all that. To me he seems to make sense. As I see it conflicts are unfortunately resolved with victory of one side. Personally I run away if I can, do not like the idea of kill or being killed for some idea.
@@gijswetzlarTrying to make this crap into an intellectual debate is all dishonest sophistry. It all boils down to “Its mine, f*** you, now we fight to the death”. Both “sides” pretty much believe the same. Lets not pretend this is something that can be resolved with thinking. There’s nothing objective at all about land deeds supposedly handed down from the sky. I’d say just let them at it, but as an American my government picks a side.
Finally someone making sense! Thank you.
Yishai is spot on with his observations on "what the Arab ear hears" and it's something that the West is generally ignorant of.
Israel is Israel because we are Jews and are supposed to follow the Torah and the Tanach which includes the books of the prophets, which is the word of G-d. Which prophet spoke of two nations existing, splitting the land of Israel?
Answer: none
Actually, Jews were supposed to follow the Holy Quran (the final book directly from God) and Islamic teachings. Prophets Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and Solomon were all following Islamic teachings, and they were all prophets of Islam, including Jesus. The original Torah is not even available, as all holy books/scriptures before Holy Quran have disappeared (original scriptures/books, i.e., Zabur, Torah, and Injil have all disappeared / are not available). The books currently available as Torah and Injil were all written by humans and not words of God. These are corrupted versions. The final book from God is The Holy Quran, which is not corrupted, and the last Prophet is Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
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If you went back in time and asked Moses what "Islam" is, he wouldn't be able to answer your question. If you asked Isaac what the Kaaba is, which Islam claims that Abraham built, he wouldn't be able to answer your question. If you asked Abraham if he wants his family burial ground in Hebron to belong to the Israelites/Jews & for the inscriptions to be in Hebrew VS letting the Ishmaelites/Arabs turn it into a mosque and ban Jews from entering, he would pick the first option and would be horrified by the thought of the second one. If you asked Solomon if he wants the Temple Mount to have a temple on it VS a mosque where Jews aren't allowed, he would choose the temple and he was the guy that got it built the Temple in the first place.
It's your prerogative to be a Muslim but the problem is you guys keep appropriating OUR things, claim that they always belonged to you, expel us from our holy sites, not even let Jews visit our common ancestor Abraham which gave birth to both the Jewish nation and the Arab nation, and then support genocidal massacres against us and broadcast to the world that Jews are just a bunch of Europeans that colonized the land & have no right to be there.
Had Jews hypothetically stolen the Kaaba out of your hands & turned it into a synagogue, you would launch a holy war against us with no mercy. We, on the other hand, have been very patient and even arrest Jews that dare to pray on the Temple Mount, & what do we get? Muslims attacking us & saying, "This attack is a response to Zionist provocation at Al-Aqsa". But what incentive do you have to change your ways? None, because the entire world agrees with you, have almost always hated my people, & vilify Israel with a passion. We won the battles but you won the war. But soon, our generous patience will run out, we will transfer many Palestinian Arabs out of the land & only let those who come in peace to stay, & then God-willing we'll live happily ever after.
@@waseemarain2855 Maybe so. But this is Islamic teaching for muslims. You dont suppose Jews will follow someones elses teaching while they do have their own?? Now, afaik, while the whole ancient history of Israel is in Palestine, literally, with smaller exceptions; so the Quaran the only demand on Israel is a dream journey where Prophet Mohammed flew on a fantasy winged horse to the mountain above Jerusalem... While its a nice story worth to retell and a good reason to build an mosque there, its a weak claim on the land as such, based on a literally dream... "Holy land for three major religions". Why, if somebody, the Christians do have a much better claim on Palestine and Jerusalem than the muslims...
Yes, and what will we do with the wolf that ate grandma? Or the tooth fairy?
@@waseemarain2855😂😂 holy Quran ? Hell no! We believe that Mohammad was a crazy wicked person!- not a prophet .
( as the Rambam- Maimonides says) why would we follow his book when we have the ultimate truth . We have the Torah which was given through G-d to Moses on mount Sinai !
Free Judea. Annex Gaza. Build settlements. Permanent peace.
Love it, yes, Free Judea.
The Two State Solution is a nice wishful thinking proposed by people who don't even live in the land. Period.
There's a fifth reason he didn't mention: there are actually three states wherein two disagree with each other (West Bank and Gaza).
Actually there are 4: JORDAN IS PALESTINE
Well spoken ❤❤.
I stand with Israel 🇮🇱
Ireland supports Israel
HAMAS's objective is to built a replica of the Islamic Republic of Iran under Shariah Law. I have seen a video asking Palestinians on the street what would happen to the Jews 'If Palestine was to retake Palestine.' The interesting thing is that some said they would be okay with the Jews who were there prior to 1948, they say they had no problems with them, even though the Arabs and Jews fought almost all the time in the 1920s. Everyone else, except for maybe direct descendants would have to 'go back to where they came from, not my problem. It's your mess to clean up.' The Palestinians see Israelis as Europeans, and they don't care where they would go. Thing is, though, that HAMAS and Fatah want to make sure all the Jews are dead, so they're not going to let the Jews leave if they have their way.
So Israel must defend themselves, or no Jew is safe. And after the Jew will come the time for other non-Muslims. The West does not understand, HAMAS does not value anything the same. HAMAS is an agent of Iran, so they have the same values as the Ayatollah. And they don't bother to hide it.
I agree with this man, a two state solution will never work. Israel must be in control or Hamas will continue to flourish. 🙏🇨🇦💝
lol, typical stupid moron
This should be essential viewing for Blinken and Co. who continue to push the old worn out line that has guided their actions for decades ......and the outstanding results are obvious to all.
In the meantime the Palestinians and friends are constantly encouraged to believe that in no time at all it will all be theirs...but dreams sometimes are shattered.
This issue is dead simple. There are 5 million Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza. They cannot vote for the Israeli government, even though the Israeli government controls their land. There are 2 million Arabs in Israel who can vote, leading to 7 million total Arabs in the land. There are around 7 million Jews in the land.
If you reject the two-state solution, Israel can be majority-Jewish, or it can be democratic. It cannot be both. Which do you choose?
Expel Arabs thst are not yet Israeli citizens.
Israel doesn't control their land. Quit trying to lie.
Take it all back.
And then some
That's a crusade I can get behind.
No problem: just give each Palestinian Israeli equal rights, freedom of movement, an Israeli passport, freedom of profession, and one vote, in your fabulous democracy of the Middle East. Problem solved.
Sure and then what... Palestinians moving about freely in Israel will do exactly what they did on October 7, except all over Israel. There's a reason there's a wall between them and Israel. Israel is smart to control her border and keep out those who want to destroy her. Hamas could have made Gaza a place where the Palestinians had freedom of profession but they preferred to use the money donated by countries worldwide to build infrastructure to attack Israel.
@@mdbubby Nethanyahu created Hamas. Hamas is a false flag operation. Israel built the tunnels in Gaza. The Palestinians cannot built anything because Israel does not allow building material to be transported to Gaza. Nethanyahu wants one state solution. Hamas wants one state solution. So, democracy requires equal rights for all people. And if you are worried that Palestinians treat Israeli people as badly, as they treated Palestinians, then they just should not have treated them so badly, in the first place.
Absolutely! There is no agreement when one part want to eliminate and eradicate the other.
Israel ought NEVER to agreed to the Two State Solution- yes for the above reasons but the Bible clearly states that the Almighty God gave the land to them and the prophet Joel that that God will "enter into judgment against all nations ...concerning His inheritance, His people Israel for they scattered my people and divided up my land". Joel 3:1-3.
@Israel “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.” Winston Churchill
GOD GAVE THAT LAND TO ISRAEL
He allowed Israel to live on it. He STILL owns it.
I prefer to call it the kingdom of heaven, but I agree.
Yes, but He owns everything. He did give Israel the land; He took it away as warned, and He brought Israel back in unbelief. He is Sovereign. @@observer3090
that doesn't even matter, the League of nations, the mandate for Palestine, and the recognized international legal principal of uti possidetis juris gave a claim to the land to Israel. Funny how they are not challenging all the other lands given like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc
It doesn't matter. It's up to Israel to defend it
A Palestinian state would give the Palestinians recognition as a Sovereign nation which in turn would mean they could have their own Army , Airforce , and Navy , Backed by Other Arab Nations and funded by Iran . Over time this would be disastrous for Israel .
Moshe Dayan gave whole West Bank to the Arabs after the 1967 Six Day War for peace and it never worked. Egypt signed the Peace Treaty with Israel for return of Sinai Peninsula but their President was assassinated and the Peace Accord survived to this day. Jordan signed the Peace Treaty with Israel to wash their hands off the Palestine problem. Syria the third player in all the Arab/Israel wars never signed any Peace Treaty with Israel and is now one of the proxies for Iran sponsored terrorism hotspots. Israel gave all the Arab Land it conquered in all the wars except for Golan Heights for Peace, 75 years on it's still fighting it's right to live on its Ancestral Home land. Wests idea of compromise does not work for Middle East mentality, the Arabs will consider pushing for more until Israel the only Democratic State will have nothing more to give. Palestine people must accept the only land available to them, Gaza to set up their Statehood. The West Bank belongs to Israel, all Palestinians must move to Gaza and live as an Arab nation. Enough of compromise, Israel gave back all the land it conquered only two countries signed peace treaty and the landless Palestinians still giving problems to Israel. Move them to Gaza and leave to run their own affairs and if they still want to fight then it's their problem because Israel will not turn another cheek but to fight back. Long live Israel!
IDF soldiers just recovered these tractors from Gaza which were stolen by Palestinians on 10/7 from Israeli farmers.
People in the West don't realize how much Judeo-Christian thought influenced their thinking and they just do away with God, so now they think that this is the way all humans everywhere think. No, it's not. Islam is very different.
Islam is an Abrahamic religion, just like Christianity and Judaism. They believe that Allah is the same god that Christians and Jews worship, but that Christianity and Judaism misinterpreted Allah’s will.
They are very, very similar to Christianity and Judaism.
Why you still talking about this name Palestine? The name is the confusion !The land is called Israel !What did a Roman emperor ,was impertinent and wrong!
Agree. The Israeli colonial occupation of Palestine needs to end. Israelis need to return to their ancestorial homeland ... in Europe. Palestine has every right to defend themselves against the colonial oppressors.
Sadly, too true!
The two state solution has been implemented for over fifty years: the Mandate of Palestine was split into Jordan an Israel. Even that has been fraught with problems, but it seems to have worked itself out at this point.
Sinai was NEVER Jewish land! It's always belonged to the Egyptians. Also since you gave it back to the rightful owners, the Egyptians, you've had no issues with the Egyptians. This guy is talking nonsense.
It's time Israel have all the Palestinian lands. For peace in middle East, this is the only solution.
"We walked out of Judea and Samaria". What about all the settlers and soldiers there?
I don't know if or how a two state solution could work. But what is the solution? A one state, all Israel? If Israel wants to stay a democracy it would have to give equal rights to everybody, but then Jews would be a minority. Or you would ethnic cleanse the Palestinians. Where should they go? No neighbour state wants to take them (all).
Many of those Arabs already rejected becoming Israeli, that's why they left in 1948. The ones that stayed became the 20% arab population of Israel. The ones that left, already left to Egypt and Jordan, that's who took over Gaza and the West Bank militarily from 1948-1967. The only reason they don't want them now is that they are the front line fighters and they still want the same thing they did in 48, 67, and 73, they just don't want to actively invade anymore. Just look at the statements from Egypt and Jordan recently, they are very much still frenemies.
Make Lebanon take in a million, make Iran take in 3 million since they train the terrorists, and make Russia take in the rest since that pig putin supports them! It won't happen, but it's a great idea.
Settlers, they are residents.
Jews have a right to live in the
west bank.
Jews a minority?? Just look at minorities in Muslim majority countries and you will have your answer. Just google violent verses in the Koran and you will understand why things are the way they are
You should ask which legitimate Arab state is functioning correctly? Arabs are too backward and primitive to have their own state. Lebanon and Jordan are failing their citizens with loads of corruption while their economy is horrible. Do you remember this in the news;
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Egypt is unstable with a dictatorship and their economy is terrible. Syria is also a dictatorship, and Bashar al-Assad has killed over 300 thousand people! Nobody mentions that. Qatar sponsors global terrorism. Yemen is a mess where rape is legal. Some people expect the West to support Gazans, but how can the West support Gazans where men are pedophiles? These child marriages are legal in Afghanistan and Yemen as well.
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Hence, a 2-State solution is nice with pink elephants and lemonade, but it won't work. Their religion that is an ideology based on submission and brutal violence is standing in their way, which regrettably became evident on October 7 of last year. The Americans had a taste of it in the early 19th century with the Barbary Wars. Meanwhile, the West has gone through an Industrial Revolution. Their backward primitive culture must go through a lot of evolution before a 2-state solution is possible. Right now they are living with an ideology from the middle ages. Israel must do what they have to do and that is to get rid of Hamas.
Yes! Two states in jewish Israel was totally wrong from the beginning!
We should get the Sinai peninsula & Gaza back, period!!
Israel ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 I feel very sad when I think what will be the condition of the children of Europe, America, Canada and many other countries in 50 years when the country will be filled with people from such communities . Imagine what would happen if your children had to live in your own country according to Islamic rules
The Holy Peaceful Loving Qur'an
The Koran (translated by Dawood in Penguin Classics series) says, "When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them" (Sura 9:5). "When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads" (Sura 47:4). "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate" (Sura 9:73). "The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. Fight then against the friends of Satan" (Sura 4:76). Who are these idolaters and unbelievers and infidels? Those who are not strict Muslims. "Muhammad is God's Apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" (Sura 48:29).
Ur so stupid quoting the quran on war to the infidels who attack and threathen the muslims,infact ur not quoting the rulings where it states whoever kills a civilian will no enter paradise"this verse is talking about the combatant infidels in war.Go read the quran from frst page to last and stop misquoting a verse revealed a 1400year ago where their was a fight which threathened their existance.Problem is their exremist in every religion justifying crimes using revalations just like u did.Ur following extremist aproach.
The Balfour Declaration even states a Jewish homeland in Palestine.....
Proud of you
Refreshing to see
Let there be a one state solution with equal rights, access, and representation for every race, religion, ethnicity and sex in that ancient holy land. End the apartheid and the genocide and let there be a United Palestine.
The 1,000 Years’ War, wow, and England/France though they had it tough with a 100 Years’ War… war without end.
Can someone explain point 2, i dont get it.
point 2: Palestinians want ALL THE LAND or NOTHING in other words "From the river to the sea"
@@kakaroto7578 so he's also criticising Bibi?
@@kakaroto7578 and doesn't Islam want the whole world?
@@wcbbsd yes, i guess so
@@wcbbsd yes, of course, i just tell you what he means
The shop keeper story sounds like a more extreme version of stores in Portland having to put up Black Lives Matter signs in their windows during the riots and fire bombings to avoid being burned down or assaulted.
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Consider this...
2000 years ago Romans conquer Greece and (unlike the real history) in order to humiliate Greeks rename the newly conquered land - Troy, by the ancient foe of Greeks. Greeks never accept that name for their lands, but it remains in use under Roman, Byzantine and Ottoman rule. The descendants of Islamised Greeks and non-Greek groups that have settled there in course of many centuries take the Troyan identity despite having no link whatsoever with king Priam or Hector or Paris and in the same time deny that modern Greeks have anything to do with ancient Greece.
That's more or less analogy with Palestine and Palestinians.
The trouble for Israel is that, on the spiritual level, they are still in disobedience to God, and they have been suffering the consequences of that for millennia. They rejected, and still reject Jesus Christ as Messiah. Jesus cried out, "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kill the prophets, and stone them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, and you would not! Behold, your house is left to you desolate." Matthew 23:37-38.
Does israel deserve the consequences?
@@controllerbrainyes bc you reject Jesus Christ The Messiah. God is not happy with you Jews
Palestinians have never wanted a two state solution. They've always wanted a ONE state solution. A Final Solution.
Brilliant response👍
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Well put
The answer is simple the surrounding Arab states give Palestinians land for their state, period.
Palestine has been through history and will continue to be Palestine 🇵🇸
Palestine is a region, it never was a country.
Palestine was the name given to the region by the Romans after putting down a Jewish uprising
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Sinai did not turn into a cancer. Sinai worked. We haven’t had an armed conflict with Egypt in decades when they used to be Israel’s worst enemy. Gaza is a great example. Sinai is a lousy one.
Sinai was filled with ISIS terrorists really fast after ISIS ruled Syria and Iraq.
Also Hamas tunnels reach Sinai and Weapons are smuggled through there to Gaza
Ye, I was thinking the same thing. Not sure why he mentioned Sinai.
Sinai became infested with ISIS/Muslim Brotherhood like terrorist groups and it's the main (and only) area through which the terrorist groups in Gaza get thier weapons.. mostly smuggled in. The Egyptians could care less - they are not Hamas's target.. so Israel is forced to suffer the incompetence of Egyptian border security indirectly through the Hamas weapons used agianst it. Not to mention the tons of illegal drugs that inflitrate Israel though the Egyptian border.
Would have better if Egypt had kept Gaza in hindsight.
He’s a political propagandist not someone who actually cares about the peace and security of Israelis or Arabs. You can tell because although he criticizes the two state solution he offers no alternatives. The only solution he seems to be able to comprehend is one in which West Bank Palestinians remain without a state or Israeli citizenship in their little islands or they all are ethnically cleansed. Not exactly my definition of a workable and just peace.
The two state solution was offered to the Arabs in 1948. The Israelis accepted it and the Arabs didn't.
Palestinians are protesting the land that was bordered off from them, not the Jews themselves. Jews and Arabs/Palestinians have lived in that land for thousands of years.
“Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences.”
US Institutes of Health
so who you're giving your wife to ?
Yes, all those Palestinians that came in looking for Jobs that the Jews had created from the neighbouring Arab states in the 1920s are all genetically connected to the Ancient Greeks.. smh.
That’s all irrelevant. No one wants to live with Islamic psychopaths. This is a war between the world and Islam at this point. And the Islamists have forced the issue.
Anyone who uses historic reasoning for why they're invading a sovereign state is wrong. By that logic just about every country in the world should be at war with their neighbor based on arbitrarily selected historic point in time when it was "their" land. Palestinians should do what every other civilized country has done and just accept reality. Lands change hands and even if it was your land at some point, it no longer is.
Dna has intermingled between people since before we were a species and indeed between species ( we have Neanderthal and Devonsonian DNA) . People have moved around geographically too much to know every detail. However the jewish culture and religion( that displaced an earlier one that is gone) predates the invention of islam in Israel by a few thousand years. Im not saying Jews have the sole right to the land both peoples do, but theirs as the original owners displaced by muslim invasion is strongest. I also believe a two state solution is next to impossible as no outside military will guarantee Israels security by manning the border and too many Palestinians have been brainwashed to wanting a one state solution. They seem incapable of building an economy and a society when they have had the own land rather than terroist infrastructure.
Give citizenship to all Palestinians. Then they can live happily ever after.
I lived in a house for 30 years but was forcibly evicted. Do I have the same historical claim to that house as today's Israelis historical claim to Israel?
What do you think the answer would be if you ask Palestinians whether they're willing to swap their wives for peace?
Also, I'm dubious about anyone that claims something has been "proven to be the all time best" - especially in a non-scientific field like politics.
G-d gave the Land of Israel to the Jewish people forever, and it says this in the Bible many times. G-d created the world and gave the Land at first to the Canaanites. Then when He wished, He took it from the Canaanites and gave it to the Jews. Jews have lived there since G-d took them out of Egypt thousands of years ago. Even when many other nations conquered Israel and Judea and killed, enslaved and dispersed the majority of the Jewish people, Jews have always lived in the Land of Israel, until today.
The Muslim Arabs do not have historical claims to the land, they migrated to the land just as many Jews did, although the Jews as a people were there thousands of years before the Arabs who came from Arabian lands. But they they started many wars with the Jews/Israel who won these wars and land and that's what happens in war- whoever wins takes the land. In addition to this, the Muslim Arabs who live in Israrl, Gaza and the West Bank NEVER ruled nor governed Palestine. Before Israel GAVE those who live in Gaza the land, they never governed it ever. And the same is with the West Bank.
The land belongs to GOD OF YISRAEL. PERIOD
Which land does not?
if israel refuses to recognise palestine as a state then, by default, all the people living in palestine are israeli citizens and have the legal right to vote and all of the legal rights and protecitons that israelis have however the fact that they are being refused of those rights means that israel see them as second class citizens which is kind of the definition of apartheit
Because they don't want to be israeli and are arab nationalist colonizers there are exceptions but for the most part they are enemies and you never treat your enemies like you treat your own.
What? Nope. That would only happen if Israel would annex Gaza and West Bank and let the arabs live there.
This is never gonna happen.
The annexation may happen, but that would mean the arabs have to go.
@@DonXardas I'm good with that
@@wingsoffreedom3589 hey me too. And the sooner the better.
@@DonXardas agreed
It's about that this is an area that is sacred to three religions. Why should all of it belong to members of one religion? Why should it all belong to jews only? Because it says so in your book? To everyone his own book is right, so this is no argument. The jews could have had a big area in today's west poland, what was once germany. Instead, they came to palestine and started oppressing people who hadn't harmed them. That jews did that is a shame, they should know best what discrimination means
I've been for the 2 state solution, but this guy has a point!
ALMIGHTY GOD, Creator of the universe and everything in it, does NOT want a 2-state solution. HE does NOT want the land divided. 💙🇮🇱💙
The two state solution was offered 5 times
In 1947 the Arabs did not want a two state solution. The European Jews wanted a two state solution. That's why Israel kept the two state solution alive. The alternative was a one state solution. In 1948 a one state solution meant only a third of the population were Jews. Now in 2024 a one state solution is 50% of the population will be Jews not counting the Palestinian diaspora. If the Palestinian diaspora is allowed to return as under the 1949 UN resolution the Jewish population will become 30% again. That's why the two solution lives. What Netanyahu wants is a one state solution with the Palestinians staying in reservation like in the US but without the power to vote or stay outside the reservation. In the US native Americans can vote in elections and stay outside the reservation. So to the speaker what's your solution? Genocide and ethnic cleansing?
If something is not logical, then it has to be spiritual. Jews have a tiny piece of land that they can call home. Why try to take it off them? It does not make sense.
In the Middle East you need to think like a Middle Eastern. For reasons of survival!
Yasser Arafat said the Oslo Accords meant nothing more to him than the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah.
Refusing a palestinian state is a call for the end of Israël
Can I reclaim the land in north London from the Jews because it’s my ancestral land?
America 🇺🇸 has 50 states (that's more than Arab states).
Give them Wyoming.
Al Maidah 20-26 (Koran) clearly states: "O my people! Enter the holy land that ALLAH DESIGNED FOR YOU, and do not turn back, or you will be the losers." Why was the holy land appointed by God for Israel. Why not Palestine. Palestine is not even mentioned once in the Koran. Has Allah forgotten that there is a nation called Palestine?
The solution for the two countries is the same as stealing land that does not belong to them. Palestinians are of Arab descent. Arabs have their own land in Egypt, Saudi, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq. That much land is not enough. Do you still want to colonize the land given to Israel by Allah?
It’s classic. Give me your wife and children and we’ll have peace.
On Oct. 7th, Hamas took wives and children with absolutely no promise of peace.
The Holy Land belongs to God of Israel and His people only 🙏🔯🇮🇱❤️❤️❤️
Perfectly said. Bravo
Who's here after the ICJ found a prima facie case of genocide against Israel.
Dopey dave cameroon needs to watch this
I'll agree the two-state solution isn't workable. The problem is, can Israel; absorb the West Bank and Gaza without also absorbing the people who live there? Can there be a single democratic state with the existing populations? What are the other options? Driving the existing people off their land, or absorbing the populations, but not allowing them a vote in the new singtle state. Which do you choose?